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posted on Nov, 5 2011 @ 12:42 AM
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Yeah, I don't understand the concept behind this strange argument. Is he going to show up at an occupy protest one day, get on the mic, and say "I'm George Soros, I gave you lots of money, so I am in charge here!"...?



posted on Nov, 5 2011 @ 12:46 AM
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posted on Nov, 5 2011 @ 12:55 AM
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Can one of you guys who believe that OWS is being played explain the motivation behind this intricately mischevious plot?

How could a corrupt organization of bankers/politicians benefit by secretly supporting an organization of individuals who are against corrupt bankers/politicians? That's like saying to stop people from being raped, I'm going to pass out roofies to a bunch of pedophiles, as well as T-shirts that say "I support rape".
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posted on Nov, 5 2011 @ 01:02 AM
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Originally posted by NoHierarchy
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Im denying ignorance every day, because it is bliss.
I deny it enough to know that no 'funding' is going to control this movement when it is people, regular people at the very core of it, people discuss an agenda multiple times a day, where people who volunteer lay their ideas out in for the general assembly, everyone who attends the general assembly will vote upon the idea (whatever it may be), if its less than a 90% approve rating, then the idea is tweaked and will be presented again at the next GA.

I dont see george soros amidst them, voting, brainstorming, making ideas. Thinking somehow that the money he supposedly is supporting OWS with, doesn't matter because its only money. So the GA would make a decision on what to do with any monies, food, warm clothing, tents, camping gear. What have you. Some are starting to build for winter already, this is not going anywhere.

Seeing the GA in action is.. I dont know how to explain it. Its freaking awesome, is all i can really say. You feel like you're part of it. Its like its own.. culture, occupying the space of a much larger culture. Trying to bring the larger culture down a few pegs, because its all effed out of proportion now.

I think you can find a reason to be mad at big business, and the government for allowing big business to run its deeds, both need to be held accountable. We need a better way of dealing with other countries and peoples without blowing them up, creating more jobs, renewable energy, cut down the military budget, stop bailing out the 'too big to fail', let them die. Create something new, print your own damn money. Do not let the private banks do it. It will only fail you in the end. Stop paying INTEREST. Frig.

I have a list in my head, it goes on, and on, and on, there are a lot of reasons to be pissed off, you just don't know it. Every time you get a statement, "Why are they charging me $XX amount of dollars to use my own money?", or when you lose your job, your home. When you take a pay cut. When your job is outsourced to a cheaper country. Need i go on? i think you get my point, i dont think i really had one, just wanted to type for you all tonight. Felt like giving my two cents..
edit on 5-11-2011 by Gemwolf because: Removed quoted post



posted on Nov, 5 2011 @ 02:01 AM
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This is WHY I dislike OWS! I have posted this once before, and am hoping that someone will actually give me a good explanation to this kind of behavior. (Note: the references below). You will not see the TP pulling this kind of $h!t! Which leaves me to believe age is a big factor in the movement. It’s childish and immature! Soooo many avoid this post. I wonder why....?

Nah they only attack women and small men

If you watch fox news, than you are the 1%.

I wish the entire crowd would have rushed that "police officer" and beaten the man to death.

They need to remember that they are humans that can bleed, and that they have family members.

violence is the answer!

Seriously?? I am all for this movement, but speaking about peoples kids??? Low and uncalled for, no matter what you stand for.

We are the 99%! You best make up your mind! You won’t be able to do so once you’re up against the wall!

You wouldn't do # but twiddle your thumbs or get your head stomped on until your consciousness is oozing over the paint.

The police will burn where they stand.

As far as the cops on horseback, fake rubber snakes, horse's really don't like snakes. And rubber snakes arent against the law. About the time you see one of those thugs on horseback take a nasty spill and the horse run wild thru crowd, you want see the horses's anymore. There's also certain smells horse's don't like. I believe this will turn violent if it continues.

The police will not be happy until they are fleeing at the sight of enraged Americans lobbing glass bottles filled with gasoline and a flaming handkerchief at their heads. We'll see how much their souls are worth then.

Screw the police and the traitorous pig civilians that support them

Sometimes you have to punch someone in the face to keep your life in tact.

Some say it's a small few who are doing such, but why than are people here on ATS supporting them by keeping quiet about it?

Reference: “One Marine v 30 Police - Occupy Times Square - Cops lose”, ”OWS want’s their own constitution”, Occupy Wall Street has begun”,Occupy Wall Street Activist Slams Fox News Producer In Un-Aired Interview”



posted on Nov, 5 2011 @ 02:04 AM
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Originally posted by Propulsion
This is WHY I dislike OWS! I have posted this once before, and am hoping that someone will actually give me a good explanation to this kind of behavior. (Note: the references below). You will not see the TP pulling this kind of $h!t! Which leaves me to believe age is a big factor in the movement. It’s childish and immature! Soooo many avoid this post. I wonder why....?

Nah they only attack women and small men

If you watch fox news, than you are the 1%.

I wish the entire crowd would have rushed that "police officer" and beaten the man to death.

They need to remember that they are humans that can bleed, and that they have family members.

violence is the answer!

Seriously?? I am all for this movement, but speaking about peoples kids??? Low and uncalled for, no matter what you stand for.

We are the 99%! You best make up your mind! You won’t be able to do so once you’re up against the wall!

You wouldn't do # but twiddle your thumbs or get your head stomped on until your consciousness is oozing over the paint.

The police will burn where they stand.

As far as the cops on horseback, fake rubber snakes, horse's really don't like snakes. And rubber snakes arent against the law. About the time you see one of those thugs on horseback take a nasty spill and the horse run wild thru crowd, you want see the horses's anymore. There's also certain smells horse's don't like. I believe this will turn violent if it continues.

The police will not be happy until they are fleeing at the sight of enraged Americans lobbing glass bottles filled with gasoline and a flaming handkerchief at their heads. We'll see how much their souls are worth then.

Screw the police and the traitorous pig civilians that support them

Sometimes you have to punch someone in the face to keep your life in tact.

Some say it's a small few who are doing such, but why than are people here on ATS supporting them by keeping quiet about it?

Reference: “One Marine v 30 Police - Occupy Times Square - Cops lose”, ”OWS want’s their own constitution”, Occupy Wall Street has begun”,Occupy Wall Street Activist Slams Fox News Producer In Un-Aired Interview”


wtf was all of that...?



posted on Nov, 5 2011 @ 02:05 AM
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Originally posted by Propulsion
This is WHY I dislike OWS! I have posted this once before, and am hoping that someone will actually give me a good explanation to this kind of behavior. (Note: the references below). You will not see the TP pulling this kind of $h!t! Which leaves me to believe age is a big factor in the movement. It’s childish and immature! Soooo many avoid this post. I wonder why....?

Nah they only attack women and small men

If you watch fox news, than you are the 1%.

I wish the entire crowd would have rushed that "police officer" and beaten the man to death.

They need to remember that they are humans that can bleed, and that they have family members.

violence is the answer!

Seriously?? I am all for this movement, but speaking about peoples kids??? Low and uncalled for, no matter what you stand for.

We are the 99%! You best make up your mind! You won’t be able to do so once you’re up against the wall!

You wouldn't do # but twiddle your thumbs or get your head stomped on until your consciousness is oozing over the paint.

The police will burn where they stand.

As far as the cops on horseback, fake rubber snakes, horse's really don't like snakes. And rubber snakes arent against the law. About the time you see one of those thugs on horseback take a nasty spill and the horse run wild thru crowd, you want see the horses's anymore. There's also certain smells horse's don't like. I believe this will turn violent if it continues.

The police will not be happy until they are fleeing at the sight of enraged Americans lobbing glass bottles filled with gasoline and a flaming handkerchief at their heads. We'll see how much their souls are worth then.

Screw the police and the traitorous pig civilians that support them

Sometimes you have to punch someone in the face to keep your life in tact.

Some say it's a small few who are doing such, but why than are people here on ATS supporting them by keeping quiet about it?

Reference: “One Marine v 30 Police - Occupy Times Square - Cops lose”, ”OWS want’s their own constitution”, Occupy Wall Street has begun”,Occupy Wall Street Activist Slams Fox News Producer In Un-Aired Interview”


The people who want violence are in the minority, the people who want a peaceful resolution outnumber them vastly. Some just want to incite violence, they just like to cause havoc, or are actually police infiltrators (we know it happens), that may not be the case for all.

I dont want to see that happening, peace is the only way. If we resort to violence, then we're no better than them. I support the global occupy movement, because it is bringing awareness of the problems to the public eye, and the seed has been planted, even if this peters out (which i doubt it will), it will only come back, and in MUCH greater numbers. Much greater. You can only screw the pooch for so long.



posted on Nov, 5 2011 @ 02:22 AM
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Originally posted by NoHierarchy
Ya know... I thought this site was about denying ignorance.

But all I've been seeing on the front page of this f*cking website is anti-OWS right-wing propaganda.


I wish I could give your post a million stars and make it as an OP


Yeah isn't it convenient that 95% of the people on ATS that are against OWS are also right wingers that don't see anything wrong with the world today. Boo-hoo, like that fool slayer.

Check my signature and you will see why fools like him get stars.
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posted on Nov, 5 2011 @ 02:31 AM
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Originally posted by NoHierarchy
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i don't blame you for being discouraged that others don't share your enthusiasm for OWS. i would just like to state, for the record, that this exact same thing happened, in reverse, when it was the Tea Party's turn at bat. there were countless threads made by concerned people, who did not like the direction the Tea Party was going in AND there were people from the Tea Party side, complaining about all the "LEFT-WING BIAS" ON THIS WEBSITE".

notice, it can't be anywhere in the middle, it always has to be one extreme or another. and why is that? because stereotypes are easier to understand. and both sides of these issues use them to prove their points, including you. so don't be getting all high and mighty about it, cause it's same old, same old, ad nauseum crap that's part of the political landscape of any political discourse. ...well, as long as people are allowed to have discourse.
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posted on Nov, 5 2011 @ 02:39 AM
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Originally posted by My.mind.is.mine

Originally posted by Propulsion
This is WHY I dislike OWS! I have posted this once before, and am hoping that someone will actually give me a good explanation to this kind of behavior. (Note: the references below). You will not see the TP pulling this kind of $h!t! Which leaves me to believe age is a big factor in the movement. It’s childish and immature! Soooo many avoid this post. I wonder why....?

Nah they only attack women and small men

If you watch fox news, than you are the 1%.

I wish the entire crowd would have rushed that "police officer" and beaten the man to death.

They need to remember that they are humans that can bleed, and that they have family members.

violence is the answer!

Seriously?? I am all for this movement, but speaking about peoples kids??? Low and uncalled for, no matter what you stand for.

We are the 99%! You best make up your mind! You won’t be able to do so once you’re up against the wall!

You wouldn't do # but twiddle your thumbs or get your head stomped on until your consciousness is oozing over the paint.

The police will burn where they stand.

As far as the cops on horseback, fake rubber snakes, horse's really don't like snakes. And rubber snakes arent against the law. About the time you see one of those thugs on horseback take a nasty spill and the horse run wild thru crowd, you want see the horses's anymore. There's also certain smells horse's don't like. I believe this will turn violent if it continues.

The police will not be happy until they are fleeing at the sight of enraged Americans lobbing glass bottles filled with gasoline and a flaming handkerchief at their heads. We'll see how much their souls are worth then.

Screw the police and the traitorous pig civilians that support them

Sometimes you have to punch someone in the face to keep your life in tact.

Some say it's a small few who are doing such, but why than are people here on ATS supporting them by keeping quiet about it?

Reference: “One Marine v 30 Police - Occupy Times Square - Cops lose”, ”OWS want’s their own constitution”, Occupy Wall Street has begun”,Occupy Wall Street Activist Slams Fox News Producer In Un-Aired Interview”


wtf was all of that...?


They are ALL pro-OWS posts here on ATS. Here are the references...

Reference: “One Marine v 30 Police - Occupy Times Square - Cops lose”, ”OWS want’s their own constitution”, Occupy Wall Street has begun”,Occupy Wall Street Activist Slams Fox News Producer In Un-Aired Interview”



posted on Nov, 5 2011 @ 02:59 AM
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So you disagree with the ows message? You support a government owned by corporations legislating for the billionaires and wreaking the country? Do you support the massive, unpunished fraud perpetrated by banks in collusion with both political parties? Why try to paint ows in a bad light in such hysterics? WHAT IS YOUR AGENDA? Just curious, take your time to respond.
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posted on Nov, 5 2011 @ 03:02 AM
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Originally posted by Propulsion

Originally posted by My.mind.is.mine

Originally posted by Propulsion
This is WHY I dislike OWS! I have posted this once before, and am hoping that someone will actually give me a good explanation to this kind of behavior. (Note: the references below). You will not see the TP pulling this kind of $h!t! Which leaves me to believe age is a big factor in the movement. It’s childish and immature! Soooo many avoid this post. I wonder why....?

Nah they only attack women and small men

If you watch fox news, than you are the 1%.

I wish the entire crowd would have rushed that "police officer" and beaten the man to death.

They need to remember that they are humans that can bleed, and that they have family members.

violence is the answer!

Seriously?? I am all for this movement, but speaking about peoples kids??? Low and uncalled for, no matter what you stand for.

We are the 99%! You best make up your mind! You won’t be able to do so once you’re up against the wall!

You wouldn't do # but twiddle your thumbs or get your head stomped on until your consciousness is oozing over the paint.

The police will burn where they stand.

As far as the cops on horseback, fake rubber snakes, horse's really don't like snakes. And rubber snakes arent against the law. About the time you see one of those thugs on horseback take a nasty spill and the horse run wild thru crowd, you want see the horses's anymore. There's also certain smells horse's don't like. I believe this will turn violent if it continues.

The police will not be happy until they are fleeing at the sight of enraged Americans lobbing glass bottles filled with gasoline and a flaming handkerchief at their heads. We'll see how much their souls are worth then.

Screw the police and the traitorous pig civilians that support them

Sometimes you have to punch someone in the face to keep your life in tact.

Some say it's a small few who are doing such, but why than are people here on ATS supporting them by keeping quiet about it?

Reference: “One Marine v 30 Police - Occupy Times Square - Cops lose”, ”OWS want’s their own constitution”, Occupy Wall Street has begun”,Occupy Wall Street Activist Slams Fox News Producer In Un-Aired Interview”


wtf was all of that...?


They are ALL pro-OWS posts here on ATS. Here are the references...

Reference: “One Marine v 30 Police - Occupy Times Square - Cops lose”, ”OWS want’s their own constitution”, Occupy Wall Street has begun”,Occupy Wall Street Activist Slams Fox News Producer In Un-Aired Interview”


That's like 4 threads. It's like 5 ANTI-OWS threads per day..



posted on Nov, 5 2011 @ 03:04 AM
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Quotes from members who support ows, I see. You building up a file on each and one of us? You can take my file and cram it up your fax machine. Tell your bosses I said hi to their mothers.

-- End Transmission --



posted on Nov, 5 2011 @ 03:25 AM
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Originally posted by Snoopy1978
reply to post by Propulsion
 


. Tell your bosses I said hi to their mothers.

-- End Transmission --


that a threat?
are you threatening their moms or just calling them whores?



posted on Nov, 5 2011 @ 03:56 AM
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Originally posted by AncientAstronaut
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So what do you propose a people do if you always are under the assumption that any effort by the people is ultimately controlled by TPTB? Why even bother creating a thread like this.

If it happens to be that you are correct in your assumption then why not turn the tables again in favor of the people, why not out think TPTB instead of believing that they have ultimate control over every collective action you take? What is the point of living your life if you believe they have so much control over collective efforts like OWS?


I can't speak for him, but not being in a collective, it matters a lot less to me what they do with their collectives. The point of living is being yourself, not worrying over a collective. Collectives don't matter in the least until they start to infringe on you.

OWS is a collective hell bent on forcing individuals into their collective and assimilating them. Eventually, they will matter as they go along that path, but right now they don't. The objective at present is to insure that they meet with minimal success in the absorption of the individuals that make up humanity.

The less success they meet with in that endeavor, the less they will matter.

In short, they can control that collective all they like, and it won't matter to me in the slightest as long as I stay on the outside of it.






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posted on Nov, 5 2011 @ 04:00 AM
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Originally posted by TupacShakur
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And that argument falls apart when you consider that George Soros is not at general assemblies making decisions, individual Americans are. At occupy KC, George Soros didn't plan our rallies, he didn't organize our credit union campaign, he didn't decide when to have our marches, he didn't donate tents and food for the occupiers. Neither did Nancy Pelosi, Barack Obama, or any other politician.

Supporting is not the same thing as controlling/co-opting.



No, but herding is.

When you steer a herd, you don't wrestle each individual beast. you just direct the herd, and the herd itself encloses and directs each individual beast.



posted on Nov, 5 2011 @ 04:05 AM
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Originally posted by TupacShakur
Can one of you guys who believe that OWS is being played explain the motivation behind this intricately mischevious plot?


What's the motivation behind any power grab?

Domination.



How could a corrupt organization of bankers/politicians benefit by secretly supporting an organization of individuals who are against corrupt bankers/politicians? That's like saying to stop people from being raped, I'm going to pass out roofies to a bunch of pedophiles, as well as T-shirts that say "I support rape".


You speak as if you believe them to be one big monolithic bloc. They aren't. it's a chess game to see who owns who in the end, and OWS are but pawns in that game, being thrown by one set of players against another.



posted on Nov, 5 2011 @ 04:16 AM
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Originally posted by My.mind.is.mine

That's like 4 threads. It's like 5 ANTI-OWS threads per day..



And if you read the list, you'll see WHY there are so many anti-OWS threads!



posted on Nov, 5 2011 @ 04:17 AM
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Originally posted by nenothtu

Originally posted by TupacShakur
Can one of you guys who believe that OWS is being played explain the motivation behind this intricately mischevious plot?


What's the motivation behind any power grab?

Domination.



How could a corrupt organization of bankers/politicians benefit by secretly supporting an organization of individuals who are against corrupt bankers/politicians? That's like saying to stop people from being raped, I'm going to pass out roofies to a bunch of pedophiles, as well as T-shirts that say "I support rape".


You speak as if you believe them to be one big monolithic bloc. They aren't. it's a chess game to see who owns who in the end, and OWS are but pawns in that game, being thrown by one set of players against another.




And what's the easiest way to dominate? Divide. Get people out of the frame of mind of "the collective". And according to your previous post, you're already outside of that and don't see the need for collective humanism even though it's 7 billion of us. You'd love to live in your little bubble. Do your thing. You have your outlook, I have mine..
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posted on Nov, 5 2011 @ 04:24 AM
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OccupyCoMo is sworn to non violence

Occupy Como keeps a Clean Camp ALWAYS. Our Occupy Como Group is at the new City Hall in Columbia Missouri,in the middle of the downtown area and highly visible. We refer to our camp as Liberty Plaza. The local business owners have been very good in letting the group use their facilities as needed and there is no park type setting at our base of operations. Everything around our area is Concrete and Stone and we have a small area to duck out of the weather if needed.

Occupy Como has the ideal set up for everything and as a member of Occupy Como I can assure all reading here we are dedicated to keeping the area clean of all trash,proper sanitation practices,article management,sign management and more.We are small but our messages of change in all manners and ways that would help ALL are well received.

We are a mixture of TEA Party,Republicans,Libertarians,Blue Dog Democrats,Liberals,Green Party and other party lines but we all agree the current government system controlled by the Corporate Global Banking Elite is just not working.

Occupy Como does not allow drunken out of control under the influence people on site and if people get too out of line the local police are more than glad to help us out.

We do support all other Occupy Movements world wide but we are OUR OWN GROUP and as such keep OUR OWN standards of cleanliness and rules. We wish all groups could be as clean and thoughtful as our group.

poundpuppy
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