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Originally posted by Snoopy1978
reply to post by Propulsion
Quotes from members who support ows, I see. You building up a file on each and one of us? You can take my file and cram it up your fax machine. Tell your bosses I said hi to their mothers.
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Originally posted by Drunkenparrot
Originally posted by SLAYER69
ORDO AB CHAO
Ad victorem spolias....
Originally posted by Unknown Soldier
reply to post by seabag
This is the Right to peacefully assemble, don't like our constitution then leave! The OWS protesters are not the problem yet at the same time the ANTI OWS propagandists keep clinging to soros as if he is relevant? While ignoring the fact these parasites "bankers" have robbed us!
Just disgusting, the anti OWS people are not doing a damn thing but remain counter productive and defend the Gangsters that robbed us all.
What the heck is wrong with you? Get with the program otherwise the revolution will continue without you.
And whatever happens win or lose one day years from now you will be sitting in your chair knowing you did NOTHING!
Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. -- C. S. Lewis
Originally posted by NoHierarchy
Originally posted by undo
Originally posted by NoHierarchy
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i don't blame you for being discouraged that others don't share your enthusiasm for OWS. i would just like to state, for the record, that this exact same thing happened, in reverse, when it was the Tea Party's turn at bat. there were countless threads made by concerned people, who did not like the direction the Tea Party was going in AND there were people from the Tea Party side, complaining about all the "LEFT-WING BIAS" ON THIS WEBSITE".
notice, it can't be anywhere in the middle, it always has to be one extreme or another. and why is that? because stereotypes are easier to understand. and both sides of these issues use them to prove their points, including you. so don't be getting all high and mighty about it, cause it's same old, same old, ad nauseum crap that's part of the political landscape of any political discourse. ...well, as long as people are allowed to have discourse.edit on 5-11-2011 by Gemwolf because: Removed quoted post
reply to post by NoHierarchy
It's like when Fox News decides to be "fair and balanced" by pitting a totally scientific/reasonable person against a totally uneducated loon... it's giving credibility where there should realistically be none.
Originally posted by NiNjABackflip
There seems to be massive amounts of sweeping generalizations and hypocrisy on both sides. Everyone is being played all too easily. It was only a matter of time before the protests turned from corporate greed and workers rights to Left vs. Right, communism vs fascism and all that other nonsense. All the protesters defecate in public, have no jobs, refuse to shower and adorn their fingernails in black nail-polish. All anti-protesters fear change, are pawns on a chess-board and are system-slaves.
The Occupy movement has been subverted by extremests and communists using it as a platform to promote their extremist ideal or merely as an excuse to party and be deviants ultimately tarnishing its reputation from the get-go. The ones opposed to the protests saw this and jumped on the nearest bandwagon when a few of the more unsavory protesters were paraded around on their boob toob in the infallible media ; "All of the protesters must be just like this one." they thought. "All of those opposed to the protest is a corporate shill!" the protester thought.
The "gimmee generation", "corporate shills" etc are massive generalizations—not even your own generalizations—but they fit your views so you utilize them. Second-hand generalizations? Please....
The ease to which all of you on both "sides" have been played is very obvious. Now you fight amongst yourselves like school-children jumping on whatever "facts" will help push your agenda. You're the rabble plain and simple. You are all incapable of intelligent discussion and resort to name calling and ad hominem.
You all turned it into a left and right thing—a black and white, us vs. them thing, the only things the feeble human mind can relate to. Hows that for a sweeping generalization?
edit on 5-11-2011 by NiNjABackflip because: grammar
Originally posted by User8911
Yeah isn't it convenient that 95% of the people on ATS "THAT ARE" against OWS are also right wingers that don't see anything wrong with the world today.
In an exclusive interview with Newsmax.TV, Horowitz, a former radical leftist who converted to conservatism in the 1980s, was asked about the Occupy Wall Street protesters and their ongoing demonstrations in Manhattan and elsewhere.
“If you’ve watched their interviews you know that they’re morons. But what is behind them is ACORN, George Soros, and the core of the Democratic Party. That’s why we ought to pay attention to them.”
As to whether the Occupy movement has been spontaneous or manipulated by the organized left, Horowitz says: “I think it’s both. It’s like a chicken-and-an-egg question.
“Some of the motivation must have been that the Democrats have created this horrific situation in our education system, where you get what looks like a free ride because there are all these student loans, and it’s not a free ride.
“So you have these kids, they’ve got a $100,000 debt and there are no jobs, thanks to the Democrats. So that became an occasion, and once there’s a happening — the first Occupy Wall Street — then these big unions come in behind it, there’s money there, and ACORN. So there’s already a very organized left and it grows.
Asked about the Occupy Wall Street movement’s future, Horowitz responds that it’s fueled by the old left “that was demoralized by the collapse of socialism and was dormant for a few years, and then came back. We can expect this to go on and on in the future. You’re not going to persuade them. They’re going to be there.”
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