OWS is Being Played

Originally posted by poundpuppy
reply to post by seabag

 

OccupyCoMo is sworn to non violence

Occupy Como keeps a Clean Camp ALWAYS. Our Occupy Como Group is at the new City Hall in Columbia Missouri,in the middle of the downtown area and highly visible. We refer to our camp as Liberty Plaza. The local business owners have been very good in letting the group use their facilities as needed and there is no park type setting at our base of operations. Everything around our area is Concrete and Stone and we have a small area to duck out of the weather if needed.

Occupy Como has the ideal set up for everything and as a member of Occupy Como I can assure all reading here we are dedicated to keeping the area clean of all trash,proper sanitation practices,article management,sign management and more.We are small but our messages of change in all manners and ways that would help ALL are well received.

We are a mixture of TEA Party,Republicans,Libertarians,Blue Dog Democrats,Liberals,Green Party and other party lines but we all agree the current government system controlled by the Corporate Global Banking Elite is just not working.

Occupy Como does not allow drunken out of control under the influence people on site and if people get too out of line the local police are more than glad to help us out.

We do support all other Occupy Movements world wide but we are OUR OWN GROUP and as such keep OUR OWN standards of cleanliness and rules. We wish all groups could be as clean and thoughtful as our group.

poundpuppy
Occupy Como Media via Facebook.

The haters, are gonna hate. The ones who have never visited a camp, and spoken to the occupiers, are gonna say that your claims are untrue. Brace yourself for a blast of egotistic wind.

reply to post by My.mind.is.mine


well what would collectivists have to do in order to enforce collectivism on the population of the world? and, what does collectivism have to offer?

reply to post by Arsenalwa


well, if it weren't for the fake arab spring, maybe people wouldn't be so sceptical about ows.
ya ever thought of that?

Originally posted by TupacShakur
Can one of you guys who believe that OWS is being played explain the motivation behind this intricately mischevious plot?

How could a corrupt organization of bankers/politicians benefit by secretly supporting an organization of individuals who are against corrupt bankers/politicians?

ordo. ab. chao.
dummy.

Originally posted by undo
reply to post by My.mind.is.mine

 

well what would collectivists have to do in order to enforce collectivism on the population of the world? and, what does collectivism have to offer?

You know, adding ism's and ist's to everything, just further and further divides people, and I don't understand why people don't seem to get that divide and conquer is the ONLY tactic tptb use, and it works PERFECTLY...

reply to post by My.mind.is.mine


you brought it up here

Get people out of the frame of mind of "the collective". And according to your previous post, you're already outside of that and don't see the need for collective humanism even though it's 7 billion of us.

then you deflected to answer a perfectly logical question by trying to make it sound like i was the one that brought the ist and ism of collective humanism, to the table. i didn't you did. answer questions please so i know why you think this is such a good idea.

Remember this is not just about OWS in NYC, there are occupy movements in a lot of different countries. Each Occupy movement is different from the other. It's a movement of movements, that's why it's so hard for there to be a leader or a set of demands. I visited Occupy London and there were about 20 different causes being represented, from those protesting the polices stop and search tactics to different religious groups to those protesting the current financial system. So coming up with a list of demands or a leader that can represent such a diverse group is almost impossible.

reply to post by woodwardjnr


so why does "my.mind.is.mine" (strange online handle for a collectivist) think that OCCUPY protests everywhere are in solidarity and represent 7 billion collective humanists?

Originally posted by onecraftydude
Some occupy movements start with ONE PERSON just showing up

well, mister, therein lies one of the problems.
"just showing up". who is he? where does he come from?
what, he's wearing a peace sign and has dreadlocks hence
people should just believe him/her and blindly follow? why didn't
these people protest 3 years ago when the bailouts were being
handed out? what? not one of those educated, well-spoken
intellectuals came up with an idea to start protesting? OR (maybe)
someone was waiting for the "moment", which hahahaha what a
coincidence, came right after fake arab spring?

therefore:

google fake arab spring.
google usdayofrage.
google otpor
google gene sharp.
google wael ghonim.
google google.
lol.

revolution has been sold a loooong time ago.
and it has become a business just recently.

reply to post by My.mind.is.mine


tptb also use chaos to achieve order. ever thought about that?

Originally posted by woodwardjnr
It's a movement of movements, that's why it's so hard for there to be a leader or a set of demands.

that could very well be by design. ordo. ab. chao.
sheeple think it is "leaderless" while they are being steered
by the organizers from the shadows. you'd have to be pretty stupid
to think "nah, it's all just spontaneous".

but i could be wrong. lol.

Our tax dollars will always be spent to suppress dissent. Our politicians are dishonest.
Follow the money, and these traitors are slaves to bribes, indeed it's not new...it's business as usual.
Once the British could not fund enough troops to quash the 1776 Rebellion they just did what they often did...they bribed our politicians...sometimes it worked, some times it did not.

Originally posted by FrenchOsage
Our tax dollars will always be spent to suppress dissent. Our politicians are dishonest.
Follow the money, and these traitors are slaves to bribes, indeed it's not new...it's business as usual.
Once the British could not fund enough troops to quash the 1776 Rebellion they just did what they often did...they bribed our politicians...sometimes it worked, some times it did not.

this is not related to your post, but i wonder if you could translate what "my.mind.is.mine" is saying in his posts i responded to above and from the previous page, where i asked "what does collectivism have to do to enforce collectivism on the planet? and what does collectivism have to offer?" maybe you'll have better luck than i am, at getting a response or perhaps you might have better insight?

These Empires do the same thing...and we have some that say..."we need them", Lord, how could anyone believe G Bush's nonsense. He was a BAD liar, yet that bastard murdered probably more than Hitler.
Maybe something is gained? No, WE killed kids so Lockeed could profit. General Electric made money off the kids we killed.

reply to post by undo


I can only talk from my own experience of what I saw. I think it's a good thing, people protesting , debating , communicating, pretty much what we do on here, but in real life. The Occupy movement will not change the system, but it may wake a few people up and it is providing a platform for the discussion of alternatives, again a good thing.

So to those worried that the Occupy movement will change the world into a Marxist/Communist hell hole. I believe you can sleep easy. The current system isn't going anywhere. Just more of the same, more wars, more lying politicians, more bank bail outs, more inequality, more exploitation. All the good stuff that your desperate to hold on to.

Originally posted by undo

Originally posted by FrenchOsage
Our tax dollars will always be spent to suppress dissent. Our politicians are dishonest.
Follow the money, and these traitors are slaves to bribes, indeed it's not new...it's business as usual.
Once the British could not fund enough troops to quash the 1776 Rebellion they just did what they often did...they bribed our politicians...sometimes it worked, some times it did not.

this is not related to your post, but i wonder if you could translate what "my.mind.is.mine" is saying in his posts i responded to above and from the previous page, where i asked "what does collectivism have to do to enforce collectivism on the planet? and what does collectivism have to offer?" maybe you'll have better luck than i am, at getting a response or perhaps you might have better insight?

Trying to actually be a community with each other, and "love thy neighbor" and such, doesn't require an "ism". We're people, who were put here for a reason, and ignoring each other and living in our own little box away from the problems of the next man is not that reason. It's not something that should be enforced, it's something that should be encouraged. What does it have to offer? Well, I'm sorry but I interpret that as "if being neighborly, and communal has no benefits then I don't want it". To that I just say, that it might offer you peace of mind at best.

My point isn't that you have to agree with or support OWS, but you shouldn't alienate another group of people because like it or not, we're all in this together. When the government #s up, you AND I are the ones who get screwed: not just you, or just me.

this is not related to your post, but i wonder if you could translate what "my.mind.is.mine" is saying in his posts i responded to above and from the previous page, where i asked "what does collectivism have to do to enforce collectivism on the planet? and what does collectivism have to offer?" maybe you'll have better luck than i am, at getting a response or perhaps you might have better insight?

I don't have more insight. I don't believe in Collectivism.

Originally posted by My.mind.is.mine

And what's the easiest way to dominate? Divide.

No, that's the easiest way to conquer

The easiest way to dominate is to draft a large enough force to do your bidding for you, and steamroll the opposition.

Get people out of the frame of mind of "the collective". And according to your previous post, you're already outside of that and don't see the need for collective humanism even though it's 7 billion of us.

You're right, I don't see the need to live in a hive or collective, and never have seen that need. We're humans, not ants. I'm not sure what the figure of 7 billion has to do with it. Are you saying that because there are a bunch of us, we all have to live one on top of the other in stacks?

You'd love to live in your little bubble. Do your thing. You have your outlook, I have mine..

No need to go all extreme. Just because I don't have to be assimilated into a collective doesn't mean that I necessarily have to live in a bubble, either... unless all the rest of humanity suddenly loses all of it's individuals and goes all Borg on me.

Originally posted by My.mind.is.mine

You know, adding ism's and ist's to everything, just further and further divides people, and I don't understand why people don't seem to get that divide and conquer is the ONLY tactic tptb use, and it works PERFECTLY...

Depends on how you combat them.

A collective can be divided in the pursuit of conquest. an individual cannot.

They have not so far, nor will they ever, conquer me, as an individual. About the worst they can do is kill me, which is not conquest, but the admission of failure of the conquest. If they kill me, there's no exploit for them to enjoy, nothing much to be gained for them from it.

Wouldn't be much of a loss to the planet, either, in the grand scheme of things.

it's a win-win!

Originally posted by woodwardjnr
Remember this is not just about OWS in NYC, there are occupy movements in a lot of different countries. Each Occupy movement is different from the other. It's a movement of movements, that's why it's so hard for there to be a leader or a set of demands. I visited Occupy London and there were about 20 different causes being represented, from those protesting the polices stop and search tactics to different religious groups to those protesting the current financial system. So coming up with a list of demands or a leader that can represent such a diverse group is almost impossible.

But in order to get any results, there has to be cohesion and focus of directed effort. In the scenario you describe, it's like having 20 different tribes, all going in their own direction, and the multiplication of effort that is supposed to be the result of a collective is nullified.

A temporary collective coming together in pursuit of a common cause I can understand, but what happens when there is no common cause? the purpose of the gathering is then nullified. Might as well stay in their own separate little tribes if that's the case.