OWS is Being Played

Originally posted by Unrivaled1

Originally posted by beezzer

Originally posted by Unrivaled1

Originally posted by NorthStreet1
reply to post by Unrivaled1

 

The saddest thing with OWS is that they believe they are the 99% when in reality they are a very small percentage of the 99% - maybe .5%

I respectfully disagree. I think the saddest thing is that there are many of the 99% who clearly don't seem to have the mental faculties to work out or even see they are being shafted by corrupt lying warmongers. And yet that doesn't exclude them from the 99% in anyway. Just because they can't see they are being shafted doesn't mean they aren't being shafted.

edit on 4/11/11 by Unrivaled1 because: (no reason given)

So if we don't support OWS, we're stewpid?

I guess having a different opinion is also stewpid.

*drool*

Where in my post did i say if one doesn't support OWS they are stupid?

respectfully disagree. I think the saddest thing is that there are many of the 99% who clearly don't seem to have the mental faculties to work out or even see they are being shafted by corrupt lying warmongers

The bolding is mine.

Funny how Iran and the
secretary of Iran's Supreme National Security Council (SNSC) Saeed Jalili
sees OWS protests

He further pointed to the anti-capitalism protests in the US, and said the 99 percenters in the US will not allow the White House to escape ahead through hostile moves.

"We support the 99 percenters who are opposing the US policies at home and abroad with our maximum power and strength and we will prosecute the US statesmen."

english.farsnews.com...
Iran fully supports the anti-capitol protests
It MUST be a good thing..

The OWS protesters are being played from forces they can not even comprehend
that want them dead.

Originally posted by beezzer

Originally posted by Unrivaled1

Originally posted by beezzer

Originally posted by Unrivaled1

Originally posted by NorthStreet1
reply to post by Unrivaled1

 

The saddest thing with OWS is that they believe they are the 99% when in reality they are a very small percentage of the 99% - maybe .5%

I respectfully disagree. I think the saddest thing is that there are many of the 99% who clearly don't seem to have the mental faculties to work out or even see they are being shafted by corrupt lying warmongers. And yet that doesn't exclude them from the 99% in anyway. Just because they can't see they are being shafted doesn't mean they aren't being shafted.

edit on 4/11/11 by Unrivaled1 because: (no reason given)

So if we don't support OWS, we're stewpid?

I guess having a different opinion is also stewpid.

*drool*

Where in my post did i say if one doesn't support OWS they are stupid?

respectfully disagree. I think the saddest thing is that there are many of the 99% who clearly don't seem to have the mental faculties to work out or even see they are being shafted by corrupt lying warmongers

The bolding is mine.

No offence but are you drunk or something? Can you not read properly? Maybe read it slowly or something, seriously!

Again i said I think the saddest thing is that there are many of the 99% who clearly don't seem to have the mental faculties to work out or even see they are being shafted by corrupt lying warmongers.

I DID NOT SAY I think the saddest thing is that there are many of the 99% who clearly don't seem to have the mental faculties to support OWS. Or those who don't support OWS lack mental faculties!

Again read it slowly

I think the saddest thing is that there are many of the 99% who clearly don't seem to have the mental faculties to work out or even see they are being shafted by corrupt lying warmongers.

reply to post by Unrivaled1
And who was that directed towards?
Us?
Those that have argued against your pro-OWS stance?

Methinks you doth protest too much.

"And who was that directed towards?
Us?"

It was directed at anyone who has eyes and a brain with the ability to comprehend what was written.

"Those that have argued against your pro-OWS stance?"

Again where did i say that? Oh that's right i didn't say that!

"Methinks you doth protest too much."

Really, i think i don't protest enough.

reply to post by beezzer


Face it beez...

You and I don't have the mental fecal...facial...fractal err um brains enough to understand whats going on.

Originally posted by Unrivaled1
"And who was that directed towards?
Us?"

It was directed at anyone who has eyes and a brain with the ability to comprehend what was written.

"Those that have argued against your pro-OWS stance?"

Again where did i say that? Oh that's right i didn't say that!

"Methinks you doth protest too much."

Really, i think i don't protest enough.

You have answered the questions.

OWS is still being played, however.

Originally posted by SLAYER69
reply to post by beezzer

 

Face it beez...

You and I don't have the mental fecal...facial...fractal err um brains enough to understand whats going on.

I'd write more and stay off topic but I get distracted by shiny things-. . . ..

What was I saying?

__________________________________________________________

This is the desperation that we'll soon see when OWS starts to falter. More stories of influence by progressives, more anger, more vitriol.
*giggity

I can't wait!

Originally posted by My.mind.is.mine
Gee thanks, at least I'm a useful idiot. What kind of idiot are you? The kind who decides that protesting the ills of this country isn't worth it because of the elite? I feel YOU are being played, into NOT helping.

Spot on.

OP, It's clear what your agenda is sir and where you get your opinions.

This is like, the 3rd or 4th thread that you have created to demonize the OWS movement,
If you look at the actual dollar values that the tides foundation has donated to adbusters, its minimal and can't fund anything.
And who really cares? There is a big monster that ows is facing, and its better to stand up to it than to be beaten around. Please do some actual research, money doesn't mean anything. Money cannot deter this movement from its targets, because there are many.

Just like the argument that "they have no goal", but, there is so much that needs to be fixed, having one goal is hard other than "FIX THE GOD DAMN SYSTEM", because we're getting screwed.

Anyways, I'de rather do something than being an armchair warrior trying to convince other people not to do something for the betterment of society, Please stop making these threads, we've heard it all already, and this particular soros connection has already been seen and discussed and OWS came out with a statement about it as well, saying it was BS, and they would not accept corporate money at all, so if it gets to them through other channels, thats just more money to prepare for the winter.

Originally posted by AzureSky

Just like the argument that "they have no goal", but, there is so much that needs to be fixed, having one goal is hard other than "FIX THE GOD DAMN SYSTEM", because we're getting screwed.

This is essentially why there is a "lack of message". And that is why OWS's aren't required to make a more well defined statement that is suitable for the critics of the movement. In essence, if the OWS did provide a message, there would actually be more than a few(house prices, job prospects, being screwed over by bailouts, student loans, increasing distance between the wealthy and everyone else, voices that aren't being heard) then critics would hold power over them by dividing them up into separate camps which would led to a divide and conquer strategy that would led infighting and rendering the movement useless.

Of course the movement can improve on their tactics, but most of all is that they need more heads to join their fight.

They don't owe a better explanation about themselves to anyone. They need to play by their own rules and not by someone else's. To say that the OWS movement has no message is BS.

Originally posted by AzureSky
This is like, the 3rd or 4th thread that you have created to demonize the OWS movement,
If you look at the actual dollar values that the tides foundation has donated to adbusters, its minimal and can't fund anything.
And who really cares? There is a big monster that ows is facing, and its better to stand up to it than to be beaten around. Please do some actual research, money doesn't mean anything. Money cannot deter this movement from its targets, because there are many.

Just like the argument that "they have no goal", but, there is so much that needs to be fixed, having one goal is hard other than "FIX THE GOD DAMN SYSTEM", because we're getting screwed.

Anyways, I'de rather do something than being an armchair warrior trying to convince other people not to do something for the betterment of society, Please stop making these threads, we've heard it all already, and this particular soros connection has already been seen and discussed and OWS came out with a statement about it as well, saying it was BS, and they would not accept corporate money at all, so if it gets to them through other channels, thats just more money to prepare for the winter.

You’re damn right this is the 3rd or 4th thread I’ve created bashing OWS!! I will do it any and every chance I get because I can!! Unlike most OWS supporters, I have taken an oath to defend my country. My country is under assault by a fringe group of groomed American morons with extremely good funding by George Soros and the like (through use of capitalism I might add).

How many times can I say that it is a complete Logical Fallacy to proclaim that anyone who doesn’t support the lame, ill-informed, ludicrous (if I may) OWS protests does nothing but sit on the sidelines, arm chair quarterback, watch TV, make snow cones, blow bubbles, etc, etc.

I’ve been to so many local Tea Party meetings, rallies, protests and fund raisers I can no longer keep count. I’d bet my next paycheck that I’ve spent more days of my life working for this country than you’ve spent working. Period!! What have you done other than stand on the damn street with a homemade sign (if you've even done that)?

My wife and I raise a family, go to work every day, pay our bills, make time for our kids, etc. We live our lives to the fullest and do the best we can in THE COUNTRY WE LOVE. My country is being hijacked by people who don’t know their ass from a hole in the ground who are full of ideas that have been tried and proven not to work. Do some research about your beliefs, the things you hear from the media and your friends, and the things people, like me, post on this site! Learn some damn history!! The ideas being promoted by OWS DO NOT WORK! Grow up! Come back when you have some solutions rather than criticism.

Originally posted by satron

Originally posted by AzureSky

Just like the argument that "they have no goal", but, there is so much that needs to be fixed, having one goal is hard other than "FIX THE GOD DAMN SYSTEM", because we're getting screwed.

This is essentially why there is a "lack of message". And that is why OWS's aren't required to make a more well defined statement that is suitable for the critics of the movement. In essence, if the OWS did provide a message, there would actually be more than a few(house prices, job prospects, being screwed over by bailouts, student loans, increasing distance between the wealthy and everyone else, voices that aren't being heard) then critics would hold power over them by dividing them up into separate camps which would led to a divide and conquer strategy that would led infighting and rendering the movement useless.

Of course the movement can improve on their tactics, but most of all is that they need more heads to join their fight.

They don't owe a better explanation about themselves to anyone. They need to play by their own rules and not by someone else's. To say that the OWS movement has no message is BS.

edit on 4-11-2011 by satron because: (no reason given)

The fact that OWS has no unifying message is BS! Pack it up and go home. Tomorrow you should shower, shave (men...and some women), walk to the bus stop and go seek employment at the nearest business! Stop trying to change a system just because you can't conform to it. There are a lot of black and white/open or closed scenarios in life. Just because you can't conform doesn't mean that YOU have the authority to paint things gray!

Originally posted by popsmayhem
Funny how Iran and the
secretary of Iran's Supreme National Security Council (SNSC) Saeed Jalili
sees OWS protests

He further pointed to the anti-capitalism protests in the US, and said the 99 percenters in the US will not allow the White House to escape ahead through hostile moves.

"We support the 99 percenters who are opposing the US policies at home and abroad with our maximum power and strength and we will prosecute the US statesmen."

english.farsnews.com...
Iran fully supports the anti-capitol protests
It MUST be a good thing..

The OWS protesters are being played from forces they can not even comprehend
that want them dead.

The second part of that external quote concerns me more than they way they are manipulating the OWS... "... and we will prosecute the US statesmen" .

Prosecute?

"US statesmen"?

IRANIANS?

Originally posted by seabag

Originally posted by satron

Originally posted by AzureSky

Just like the argument that "they have no goal", but, there is so much that needs to be fixed, having one goal is hard other than "FIX THE GOD DAMN SYSTEM", because we're getting screwed.

This is essentially why there is a "lack of message". And that is why OWS's aren't required to make a more well defined statement that is suitable for the critics of the movement. In essence, if the OWS did provide a message, there would actually be more than a few(house prices, job prospects, being screwed over by bailouts, student loans, increasing distance between the wealthy and everyone else, voices that aren't being heard) then critics would hold power over them by dividing them up into separate camps which would led to a divide and conquer strategy that would led infighting and rendering the movement useless.

Of course the movement can improve on their tactics, but most of all is that they need more heads to join their fight.

They don't owe a better explanation about themselves to anyone. They need to play by their own rules and not by someone else's. To say that the OWS movement has no message is BS.

edit on 4-11-2011 by satron because: (no reason given)

Stop trying to change a system just because you can't conform to it.

I think it's pretty sad that you'd except the way things are, and will continue to be, which I doubt is projected to go up hill anytime in the near future.

I think George Soros paid you off.

Originally posted by seabag

Originally posted by AzureSky
This is like, the 3rd or 4th thread that you have created to demonize the OWS movement,
If you look at the actual dollar values that the tides foundation has donated to adbusters, its minimal and can't fund anything.
And who really cares? There is a big monster that ows is facing, and its better to stand up to it than to be beaten around. Please do some actual research, money doesn't mean anything. Money cannot deter this movement from its targets, because there are many.

Just like the argument that "they have no goal", but, there is so much that needs to be fixed, having one goal is hard other than "FIX THE GOD DAMN SYSTEM", because we're getting screwed.

Anyways, I'de rather do something than being an armchair warrior trying to convince other people not to do something for the betterment of society, Please stop making these threads, we've heard it all already, and this particular soros connection has already been seen and discussed and OWS came out with a statement about it as well, saying it was BS, and they would not accept corporate money at all, so if it gets to them through other channels, thats just more money to prepare for the winter.

You’re damn right this is the 3rd or 4th thread I’ve created bashing OWS!! I will do it any and every chance I get because I can!! Unlike most OWS supporters, I have taken an oath to defend my country. My country is under assault by a fringe group of groomed American morons with extremely good funding by George Soros and the like (through use of capitalism I might add).

How many times can I say that it is a complete Logical Fallacy to proclaim that anyone who doesn’t support the lame, ill-informed, ludicrous (if I may) OWS protests does nothing but sit on the sidelines, arm chair quarterback, watch TV, make snow cones, blow bubbles, etc, etc.

I’ve been to so many local Tea Party meetings, rallies, protests and fund raisers I can no longer keep count. I’d bet my next paycheck that I’ve spent more days of my life working for this country than you’ve spent working. Period!! What have you done other than stand on the damn street with a homemade sign (if you've even done that)?

My wife and I raise a family, go to work every day, pay our bills, make time for our kids, etc. We live our lives to the fullest and do the best we can in THE COUNTRY WE LOVE. My country is being hijacked by people who don’t know their ass from a hole in the ground who are full of ideas that have been tried and proven not to work. Do some research about your beliefs, the things you hear from the media and your friends, and the things people, like me, post on this site! Learn some damn history!! The ideas being promoted by OWS DO NOT WORK! Grow up! Come back when you have some solutions rather than criticism.

Good generalization, good to know you see how you're getting screwed and accept it like most of the people out there. Good to know.
Have fun with that, your "country' isnt under attack, your pathetic excuse for a government, and the way the big business has played you is under attack.
And the ideas your talking about are ideas that some people have, not everyone. I do my own research and have seen this thing from the very beginning, soros money? 90,000 dollars in 2010, woopdee dooo, thats a lot of money to be funding a global movement.
And as for research, i have done way too much research and i know whats wrong with the world, i know whos causing it, and i know all your counter points, and know exactly why you say them. Because you are afraid of change, and well, trying to convince the rest of us that you are right is not going to work, because its better to do something than nothing.

Your country isn't under attack by OWS, its already under artillary from the government and the corporatocracy, Look who the real enemy is, and its not OWS. Its them. Money is money, who cares where it comes from, or who funds what. The message is clear,

So anyways, IM not going to waste my time trying to convince you of this, because i try not to make it a habit out of trying to convince a brick wall to have its own thought,

hope soros can fund all 1,700+ cities, thats a lot of dough

Originally posted by AzureSky
Please stop making these threads,

You know, when you hear "sit down and shut up" a lot, as we've been hearing here at ATS concerning OWS from it's supporters, you know you're close to the nerve, and they don't have any logical response - so the only thing left is to shut you down or shout you down.

Really?

Opponents should just be quiet, stop kicking a fuss, stop making threads?

Where were you when OUR First Amendment rights were under attack?

Oh yeah... you were among the attackers.

Attacking our First Amendment rights was necessary to quiet us down, so that we could hear all about how you are defending our... rights...

By George, I think I've got it now!

Originally posted by satron
To say that the OWS movement has no message is BS.

No, they really DON'T have a message. A message must be communicated to someone, or else it's not a message.

that's kind of, you know, what a MESSAGE is!

Originally posted by nenothtu

Originally posted by popsmayhem
Funny how Iran and the
secretary of Iran's Supreme National Security Council (SNSC) Saeed Jalili
sees OWS protests

He further pointed to the anti-capitalism protests in the US, and said the 99 percenters in the US will not allow the White House to escape ahead through hostile moves.

"We support the 99 percenters who are opposing the US policies at home and abroad with our maximum power and strength and we will prosecute the US statesmen."

english.farsnews.com...
Iran fully supports the anti-capitol protests
It MUST be a good thing..

The OWS protesters are being played from forces they can not even comprehend
that want them dead.

The second part of that external quote concerns me more than they way they are manipulating the OWS... "... and we will prosecute the US statesmen" .

Prosecute?

"US statesmen"?

IRANIANS?

They are doing to us exactly what we do to them. When the media asks them about something they support (that is against us) they throw sh*t at the fan and hope something sticks. I would expect nothing less! They have been thumbing their nose at us with the assumption that the US is a paper tiger and their allies will be enough deterrent against any attack. They are likely going to find out that the psychopaths that are calling the shots in the US/West/UN/Nato/NWO are not bluffing. We both know they have no means to defend themselves against TPTB, much less the power to prosecute US officials.

Originally posted by AzureSky

Money is money, who cares where it comes from, or who funds what.

Wait.... WHAT?

It's OK for rich guys to buy entire political movements, but it's a sin for the same rich guys to buy political congress critters?

You can't see the problem with that illogic?