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One Mega Watt E-Cat Cold Fusion Device Test Successful!

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posted on Jan, 14 2012 @ 04:43 AM
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Originally posted by spoor

Originally posted by Arken
Hmmm... something is moving in the swamp!


Not really, that has nothing to do with Rossi's fraud....


Yes really, this is an official confirm against yours....

NASA Officially Confirm: Cold Fusion (LENR) is Real!
edit on 14-1-2012 by Arken because: (no reason given)



posted on Jan, 14 2012 @ 10:22 AM
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Originally posted by OccamsRazor04

And what will you say when this doesn't happen and Rossi has some excuse, such as "Oh the clients funding didn't come through" or some other nonsense? It. Won't. Happen. Hope I am wrong.


Do you really?

Really?

Then why such a pessimistic and negative attitude, OccamsRazor?



posted on Jan, 14 2012 @ 02:53 PM
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LENR (ie, cold fusion), is a fact, it is being used to generate heat energy in laboratories on a consistent basis by scientists and researchers around the world, there is peer reviewed data to back up the claims, Rossi' E-Cat is based on this technology so it seems to make sense to conclude that the issue is settled, the Rossi invention is real, case closed. That works fine in the end users, lay-mans world, but not so in the world of science, they are distinctly different entities, the physicists and scientists operate in a manner guided by solid widely accepted evidence and consensus arrived at through publishing, arguments and debate. We are getting there, minds are awakening, and it would be quite fun to see Rossi' invention leap frog the slow boring process. But, until we see the E-Cat in the hands of independent entities, and they can operate it as Rossi says, we are doing no good for the cause of confirming it to be real. That is where things stand now, we know the tech is real, Rossi's machines probably are real since they are based upon existing technology, but nothing is to be gained from insisting on immediate acceptance of this probability, it is what it is, regardless of what distractors OR supporters say about it. The amount of anger and derision being displayed on the topic is understandable, time will reveal all, and we won't have to wait much longer. A few more months, a year at most. Even if Rossi fails, the technology is now out of the bag, exciting developments and discoveries will follow.



posted on Jan, 14 2012 @ 09:13 PM
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I don't respond to the shills on this anymore however for those seeking the actual truth there is an over abundance of evidence and proof documented on this. If one says they read the links and saw no evidence because it is not in some politically controlled science journal then they are either severely reading comprehension challenged or have an agenda.


Rossi's Home Sacrificed For Cold Fusion E-Cat Launch (PESN; Sept. 21, 2011)
The Ultimate Ni-H Cold Fusion E-Cat Test (PESN; Sept. 16, 2011)
Rossi's 1 MW Cold Fusion E-Cat Reactor Photos and Video Posted (PESN; Sept. 14, 2011)
More Uncertainty as Ni-H Cold Fusion Launches Near - NASA (PESN; Sept. 6, 2011)
Rossi-Defkalion Split Controversy - index of articles (PESN; Aug. 7,8, 2011)
E-Cat Competitors Revealed During Viareggio Conference (PESN; July 25, 2011)
Rossi's Self Sustaining One Megawatt Reactor (PESN; July 21, 2011)
E-Cat News Coming Fast and Furious (PESN; July 14, 2011)
EV World Interviews Andrea Rossi (PESN; July 14, 2011)
Hitler Panics Over Rossi's Energy Catalyzer (PESN; July 5, 2011)
Cheap Cold Fusion to Save World Billions (PESN; July 3, 2011)
Defkalion Press Conference Reveals E-Cat Rollout Plans (PESN; June 25, 2011)
A Nobel Laureate speaks out on the Energy Catalyzer (PESN; June 23, 2011)
Rossi Explains E-Cat Setup in New Video (PESN; June 21, 2011)
Defkalion Announces Energy Catalyzer Press Conference (PESN; June 17, 2011)
Cold Fusion #1 Claims NASA Chief (PESN; May 31, 2011)
Ampenergo Amps Up Rossi's Energy Catalyzer in America (PESN; May 17, 2011)
Seven Reasons to Embrace Rossi's Energy Catalyzer (E-Cat) (PESN; May 7, 2011)
NyTeknik Validates Rossi's Energy Catalyzer (PESN; May 2, 2011)
Sterling Allan on Cash-Flow: "It's an act of revolution to support free energy." (PESN; April 28, 2011)
Rossi Cold Fusion Validated by Swedish Skeptic's Society (PESN; April 7, 2011)
Breakdown to Breakthrough is Possible Now (PESN; March 25, 2011)
Andrea Rossi with Sterling Allan on Coast to Coast AM (PESN; March 24, 2011)
Rossi's Cold Fusion Energy Catalyzer: Frequently Asked Questions (PESN; March 21, 2011)
Sterling Allan Appearing on Coast to Coast AM March 23, 2011 (PESN; March 18, 2011)
Welcome Worry-Free Nuclear Power: Rossi's Energy Catalyzer (PESN; March 17, 2011)
Cold Fusion Steams Ahead at World's Oldest University (PESN; March 7, 2011)
Future Impact of Rossi's Cold Fusion (PESN; February 28, 2011)
Rossi's cold fusion reactor achieves 15 kW for 18 hours (PESN; February 22, 2011)
BlackLight Power vs. Rossi's Cold Fusion - Related Technologies? (PESN; February 8, 2011)
Fear Mongering: From Cannabis to Cold Fusion (PESN; January 23, 2011)
Fighting the Infection of Cynical Skepticism with Cold Fusion (PESN; January 21, 2011)
Hope Grows as Journals Weigh in on Italian Cold Fusion Breakthrough (PESN; January 19, 2011)
Cold Fusion getting hot with 10kw heater prepping for market (PESN; January 17, 2011)
> Multi-kilowatt Ni-H cold fusion demo under way January 14 in Italy (PESN; January 14, 2011)

For a more exhaustive listing, see PESWiki.com...:Rossi_Cold_Fusion

pesn.com...

Continued in next post...



posted on Jan, 14 2012 @ 09:16 PM
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And here is the rest:


E-Cat Weekly -- January 12, 2012 (PESN)
E-Cat Weekly -- January 5, 2012 (PESN)
Anniversary Interview with Rossi Slated for January 14, 3pm MST (PESN; January 5, 2011)
One Full Year of Andrea Rossi's E-Cat (PESN; December 30, 2011)
E-Cat Weekly -- December 29, 2011 (PESN)
E-Cat Weekly -- December 22, 2011 (PESN)
E-Cat Weekly -- December 15, 2011 (PESN)
E-Cat Weekly -- December 8, 2011 (PESN)
Has Defkalion's President Confirmed the Accusations of Rossi and Stremmenos? (PESN; November 29, 2011)
A Week of E-Cat News Flurry (PESN; November 29, 2011)
ECat.com Launched by N. Europe Licensee (PESN; November 17, 2011)
Sterling Allan on the up and down of Rossi's approval of Leonardo-ECat.com (PESN; November 16, 2011)
My 11.11.11. Message on Planetary Explosion - to Collapse or to Fortune (PESN; November 14, 2011)
National Instruments signs to do E-Cat controls (PESN; November 10, 2011)
Bloomberg's EnergyNow Names E-Cat as Week's HotZone (PESN; November 7, 2011)
Mainstream News of Andrea Rossi's LENR E-Cat (PESWiki; November 7, 2011)
E-Cat Orders Being Taken After Successful Launch (PESN; November 3, 2011)
Fox News E-Cat Article Needs Work (PESN; November 2, 2011)
Rossi's E-Cat Victory on Cold Fusion's Emergence Day -- E-Day (PESN; November 2, 2011)
After the E-Cat Test: Report and Q&A with Rossi (PESN; October 31, 2011)
Rebuttal to Krivit's Accusation that Andrea Rossi is a Fraudster (PESN; October 30, 2011)


1 MW unit tested on October 28, 2011.
Photo by Sterling Allan
>> 1 MW E-Cat Cold Fusion Device Test Successful (PESN; October 28, 2011)
How Much is One (1) Megawatt? (PESWiki; October 27, 2011)
Tracking the One Megawatt E-Cat Test October 28, 2011 (PESWiki; October 20, 2011)
Cheap power: An overnight revolution -- Commentary (PESN; October 16, 2011)
Rossi Answers Questions on the E-Cat (PESN; October 11, 2011)
Cold Fusion E-Cat Case Design Competition (PESWiki; October 10, 2011)
E-Cat Test Validates Cold Fusion Despite Challenges (PESN; October 8, 2011)
Photos of the October 6, 2011 E-Cat Test (PESWiki; October 5, 2011)
Real-Time Updates on the October 6, 2011 E-Cat Test (PESWiki; October 5, 2011)
Scientists to Test Cold Fusion E-Cat (PESN; Sept. 26, 2011)

pesn.com...

I am sure the shills will throw out the usual inane comments etc. however the facts are the E-cat works is in operation and been confirmed by several prominent scientists the naysayers and science journal cult be damned!

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posted on Jan, 15 2012 @ 01:50 AM
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I listened to the Andrea Rossi internet Interview last night on Jan 14th, this is what I noted from it.

The domestic unit will be the size of a portable computer, UL approval is in progress for this 10 kW E-Cat, they will run in self sustain mode, and have a single reactor core assembly. He said that 2.7 to 2.9 kWs of power will be required for the first hour to begin the reation from a cold start.

No Hydrogen cylinder will be needed, they have been re-engineered to store and recycle the high pressure hydrogen, using only picograms of Hydrogen.

The unit sounds a signal when cartridge is low. changes were made to allow simplifying the refilling procedure, cartridges to cost $10 each. Rossi called them "Energy Sticks." Multiple refills can be purchased and ordered online.

Fuel estimated to last 4,320 hours (180 days at 24 hours a day, that's 360 days at 12 hours a day).

Price planned to be $500

Device is intended to heat whole house not water heaters.

The RFG (Radio Frequency generator), this component is a semi secret inner component designed to stimulate the core with pulses or waves of energy, and may be part of the secret "catalyst" sub system, Rossi said that it functions similar to a martial artist to work for and not against the reaction.

Units will be manufactured in state of Florida, he is trying to do same in Massachusetts.

Domestic E-Cat manufacturing will begin in the fall, sales will start in the winter.

Rossi said 512 keV 180 deg Gamma rays have been measured.

He mentioned that the first 1 mega watt plant sold is being modified, and it will be back in service within a month or two, he still has 12 more on back order, and one more is sold to another customer.


If this is a hoax, it is surely one of the most elaborate and intricate ever devised.



posted on Jan, 15 2012 @ 05:18 AM
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10kw ? for heat and water for an entire house ??? my combi boiler [ uk ] = 31kw



posted on Jan, 15 2012 @ 06:18 AM
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Originally posted by RING0
Device is intended to heat whole house not water heaters.
So, no electricity production, only heat?



posted on Jan, 15 2012 @ 06:32 AM
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In the interview he mentioned that in order to generate electricity out of heat efficiently you need temperatures of 400°C and higher, here's an example for instance:
cyclonepower.com...

However currently the E-Cat is not very stable above 120°C so that's why generating electricity is not part of the first E-Cat version.


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posted on Jan, 15 2012 @ 06:56 AM
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UTTER TWADDLE !



posted on Jan, 15 2012 @ 07:45 AM
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Originally posted by RING0
LENR (ie, cold fusion), is a fact, it is being used to generate heat energy in laboratories on a consistent basis by scientists and researchers around the world, there is peer reviewed data to back up the claims, Rossi' E-Cat is based on this technology so it seems to make sense to conclude that the issue is settled, the Rossi invention is real, case closed. That works fine in the end users, lay-mans world, but not so in the world of science, they are distinctly different entities, the physicists and scientists operate in a manner guided by solid widely accepted evidence and consensus arrived at through publishing, arguments and debate. We are getting there, minds are awakening, and it would be quite fun to see Rossi' invention leap frog the slow boring process. But, until we see the E-Cat in the hands of independent entities, and they can operate it as Rossi says, we are doing no good for the cause of confirming it to be real. That is where things stand now, we know the tech is real, Rossi's machines probably are real since they are based upon existing technology, but nothing is to be gained from insisting on immediate acceptance of this probability, it is what it is, regardless of what distractors OR supporters say about it. The amount of anger and derision being displayed on the topic is understandable, time will reveal all, and we won't have to wait much longer. A few more months, a year at most. Even if Rossi fails, the technology is now out of the bag, exciting developments and discoveries will follow.



In bold above those statements seem to contradict each onther


How can scientists be using it in labs around the world and say its not real

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posted on Jan, 16 2012 @ 08:38 AM
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Farnsworth perfected his cold fusion device, but never told anyone because he knew big oil would screw him. His widow told me.



posted on Jan, 16 2012 @ 03:08 PM
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In bold above those statements seem to contradict each onther How can scientists be using it in labs around the world and say its not real

Yes, the minority are those having reproduced the effect, the majority are those involved in hot fusion who are not yet convinced. This has been the situation for the last twenty years, slowly more hot fusion scientists are coming over to accepting the LENR data. But you have confused the situation, those scientists using it around the world, conducting the tests successfully are the ones saying it is real, of course. Those who have not looked at the data, and are for whatever reason, unconvinced, those are the nay-sayers. Such is the way science works, if a fully functioning LENR device is demonstrated to the satisfaction of the doubters, you will see a turn around on the numbers, but there will always a few who will not accept certain theories, no matter what, so I expect that there will be a few hold outs who will never be convinced regardless of the evidence. Of course, the opposite could also occur, the LENR theory may be discredited, and then the reverse will occur.



posted on Jan, 16 2012 @ 03:38 PM
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it begs the question why none of these alledged LENR operators have not published .



posted on Jan, 16 2012 @ 04:39 PM
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it begs the question why none of these alledged LENR operators have not published .

Very interesting point, and here's the rub, they have published, abundantly, in peer reviewed journals no less, not just one or two either, strange how this fact is not known! Not just recently either, the Italian physicists have been publishing very interesting results for well over ten years, giving well documented experimental results showing anomalous heat energy from solid rods of Nickel in high pressure Hydrogen atmospheres. You don't know about it for the same reason the establishment physicists don't, the papers have been ignored or overlooked.

The LENR phenomenon is a peer reviewed well known topic, but the Rossi machine is not, that is where the confusion lies. Rossi is claiming HUGE amounts of energy being generated, way above the peer reviewed stuff, hence the disbelief. That is why the NASA video being released is such a big deal, it is the first huge internationally renowned institution that is saying that the LENR effect is real, look what it could do for the world.

In summation, LENR (Cold Fusion), real, E-Cat, not proven.



posted on Jan, 17 2012 @ 12:10 AM
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He acts like a fraudster and has supplied no evidence despite numerous claims he would. Why would I be optomistic in such circumstances? I am not pessimistic, just realistic based on his actions. And yes, really, why would I not want to pay less for energy?



posted on Jan, 17 2012 @ 12:12 AM
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I notice a trend with your "proof" ... it all comes from the same source, if that's not a red flagh in and of itself I don't know what is. What respected peer review process does PESN use?



posted on Jan, 17 2012 @ 12:12 AM
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Name the scientists, because sorry, Rossi has not allowed anyone to authenticate it, ever.



posted on Jan, 17 2012 @ 02:25 AM
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This will surely interest you all, a clarification of NASA LENR connection straight from the NASA scientist who published the video. Judge for yourself:

Joe Zawodny blog



posted on Jan, 17 2012 @ 04:36 AM
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to be blunt UTTER TWADDLE , the published works on LENR are mostly theoretical speculation that address its " potential " - no one has published their validated results of a viable LENR process

no one has published the results of " heating their lab " with LENR tech



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