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Exposing the evils of Wicca Witchcraft!

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posted on Oct, 30 2011 @ 05:32 PM
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Originally posted by darkredfish
Guys, stop feeding the trollnado Please.
Revgen is just another troll that gets pleasure out of demeaning other people, and everytime sombody points this out he calls it trolling and spamming.

Bottom line:
1. Jesus was a witch
2. Moses was a witch
3. Christians are too brainwashed to see this.
4. Christians are zenophobic [really? Saying mother earth came from the pitts of hell? GE
T YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR _______
5. If this is the kind of people that go too heaven, I rather burn in hell.


Come over to my thread and talk about wicca's view on other religions, its called why cant people accept there are other religions

Oh and I couldn't of said it better myself star for you



posted on Oct, 30 2011 @ 05:33 PM
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One more and then I'm gone...

1 Peter 3:15 ESV
But in your hearts honor Christ the Lord as holy, always being prepared to make a defense to anyone who asks you for a reason for the hope that is in you; yet do it with gentleness and respect,

John 8:7 ESV
And as they continued to ask him, he stood up and said to them, “Let him who is without sin among you be the first to throw a stone at her.”

Acts 10:28 ESV
And he said to them, “You yourselves know how unlawful it is for a Jew to associate with or to visit anyone of another nation, but God has shown me that I should not call any person common or unclean.

Romans 14:1-4 ESV
As for the one who is weak in faith, welcome him, but not to quarrel over opinions. One person believes he may eat anything, while the weak person eats only vegetables. Let not the one who eats despise the one who abstains, and let not the one who abstains pass judgment on the one who eats, for God has welcomed him. Who are you to pass judgment on the servant of another? It is before his own master that he stands or falls. And he will be upheld, for the Lord is able to make him stand.



posted on Oct, 30 2011 @ 05:34 PM
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Also, sorry for not being more active as i usuallt would be.
Ive been in a forest for the past3 days, and my iphone keeps running out of battery so i have to charge in my car but i dont want to waste fuel so.... Yeeah.

The only reason i still am attempting is because i feelvthis is important to many. And i need to spred the message that jesus is not the truth, only a very powerful witch tgat is now falsely worshiped



posted on Oct, 30 2011 @ 05:37 PM
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Originally posted by darkredfish
Guys, stop feeding the trollnado Please.
Revgen is just another troll that gets pleasure out of demeaning other people, and everytime sombody points this out he calls it trolling and spamming.

Bottom line:
1. Jesus was a witch
2. Moses was a witch
3. Christians are too brainwashed to see this.
4. Christians are zenophobic [really? Saying mother earth came from the pitts of hell? GE
T YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR _______
5. If this is the kind of people that go too heaven, I rather burn in hell.



I hope people see the hypocrisy within your post amongst the midst of lies and utter deceit.



5. If this is the kind of people that go too heaven, I rather burn in hell.



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posted on Oct, 30 2011 @ 05:43 PM
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Dude you really need to seek help Honest....
You wont even accept other have a right to follow whatever religion they want.
Please start opening your mind to accept others view may be right and yours may be wrong otherwise your gonna end up lonely with just a book in your hand.
Living our live's is about the now not whats after it, don't waste yours with such fundamentlist views.



posted on Oct, 30 2011 @ 05:44 PM
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Originally posted by darkredfish
Guys, stop feeding the trollnado Please.
Revgen is just another troll that gets pleasure out of demeaning other people, and everytime sombody points this out he calls it trolling and spamming.

Bottom line:
1. Jesus was a witch
2. Moses was a witch
3. Christians are too brainwashed to see this.
4. Christians are zenophobic [really? Saying mother earth came from the pitts of hell? GE
T YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR _______
5. If this is the kind of people that go too heaven, I rather burn in hell.



OMG! I just laughed so hard I spit out the vodka tonic I'm sipping onto my keyboard! You owe me a keyboard...not really, I'm still typing.
Trolllnato.


I've been foed by him 3 time during this thread! I get a U2U for that. I've never gotten a U2U for a friend.



posted on Oct, 30 2011 @ 06:40 PM
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Originally posted by boymonkey74
reply to post by RevelationGeneration
 


Dude you really need to seek help Honest....
You wont even accept other have a right to follow whatever religion they want.
Please start opening your mind to accept others view may be right and yours may be wrong otherwise your gonna end up lonely with just a book in your hand.
Living our live's is about the now not whats after it, don't waste yours with such fundamentlist views.


I accept its their right to follow another path, God gave us free will, but that doesn't mean I should sit back and not expose the deception I see daily before my very eyes. I have seen alot of wiccan propaganda as of late trying to lure people into the occult with there witchcraft, and that is the reason why I made this topic. Maybe it is you that have not opened up your eyes... You blindly defend witchcraft without knowing the truth force behind it.
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posted on Oct, 30 2011 @ 06:53 PM
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Iam defending the right everyone has to choose whatever Religion they want while you try to poison peoples beliefs.
You say your born again ok well you don't need to make up for lost time by being a fundamentalist and taking every word in a book as the truth.
Pop over and have a read what other Christians, Agnostics and just people have written in my thread and you will see we can agree on things without the hate you throw about.
Honest dude chill out a bit and just concentrate on being just a human being for a bit, yes stay a Christian but don't let it be the difining thing what make's you ...you.
Peace dude BM.

Also remember its not your job to save all the wicca's soul's just worry about you own and you will be fine.
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posted on Oct, 30 2011 @ 07:16 PM
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Originally posted by KhaliWitch

Jesus never taught to achieve harmony with nature, He is Lord over all creation, that means nature. He was present in creation, therefore nature is subject to Him. Jesus never taught reverence for ancestors, in fact ancestor worship was forbidden.



Ugh... No one is above NATURE other than NATURE.

Namasté


Except the One who created nature.

First Commandment:Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

The word here is gods, small letters, and the classic definition of this is spirits. So if we worship the "spirits" of nature, which is exactly what nature worship is and you worship a goddess, then you have violated the first commandment. One can appreciate nature, but to worship nature is entirely different. Moses could not worship anything other than God and even though he was very familiar with Egyptian magic, he did not practice it.

Since the OP was about Wicca, then we need to address what Wicca is. It is a philosophical ideal that has become a religion. Wicca is nature worship and their "deity" is the goddess. Even though Wicca is considered white, according to my brother who practices it, it does allow black magick, therefore it is not white as people think.

The Bible says we are not to worship any other gods. Yahweh is God and Jesus is His Son. They created the entire universe, they are Lord over it. That is not something debatable with us, we won't bend on that because that is the crux of our faith.

We have to understand all that is involved in a particular faith viewpoint before we attempt to practice it. We don't call on our God to command Him to our will, that is opposite of Wicca and paganism who seek their will done and ask their spirits to do it for them. Sure, we ask God for different things, that is true, but we accept that nothing can be done if it is not His will. He is still God and we are not. Sure, we sing hymns, because that is what praise and worship is all about. It is about reverence, not about getting God to do our will. The Lord's prayer is "THY will be done in heaven as it is done in earth", not our will, but God's will.

If I decide to enact MY will, then it must be done within my power and it is against God. That is the point the OP was making, these people are practicing a religion that is against God. We hear it from all the critics on here, they speak out against God, they deny God and they argue against what God said. From a philosophical viewpoint, they are simply against God. But at the same time, they ask God for acceptance of their actions against Him. They do not like what they perceive as intolerance against them, but yet show greater intolerance, and twisting religions to justify being against God.

It is not really Christians they are against, it is God Himself. The only other one in the Bible who opposed God, found himself on the losing side and since then has gone after humanity to turn them away from God. He has promised false power through false teachings, all designed to turn them away from God.

Witchcraft is all about enacting the human will against the spiritual forces that people really have no power over.


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posted on Oct, 30 2011 @ 07:37 PM
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Then no one is above God... except the one who created God.



posted on Oct, 30 2011 @ 08:06 PM
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Originally posted by cetaphobic
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Then no one is above God... except the one who created God.


No one created God, by that response I think you have much learning to do.



posted on Oct, 30 2011 @ 08:15 PM
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Said the Christian who knows less of his religion than a Pagan does.

What proof do you have that he was not created? The Bible never says he had no creator- it is completely silent on that matter. What do you fall back on now?



posted on Oct, 30 2011 @ 08:22 PM
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Originally posted by cetaphobic
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Said the Christian who knows less of his religion than a Pagan does.

What proof do you have that he was not created? The Bible never says he had no creator- it is completely silent on that matter. What do you fall back on now?


The Bible is not silent on this matter, this is the problem when you pretend to know what the bible says. We conceive of God only under the finite fashion of first purposing and then acting, of first promising or threatening and then fulfilling his word, and so on. This is not strictly correct, for He who inhabits eternity infinitely transcends our understanding (Isaiah 57:15). His eternity, therefore, implies his immensity and infinity, his altogether different nature from us.

God created the universe, Time is a construct of the universe, so time itself was created by God. God is eternal and outside the realm of time. And I do not follow any religion sir.



posted on Oct, 30 2011 @ 08:27 PM
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Originally posted by RevelationGeneration

Originally posted by Lysergic
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The Devil never actually existed.


Biggest trick the Devil pulled was to convince people he doesn't exist!


And the even Bigger trick that was pulled is when the "Holy" (cough, cough) Roman Church authored the New Testament, made up a Saviour, and forced the countryside into joining, or else. In Wiccan there is no real concept of hate, that is reserved for the Book Religions. The words "Jihad," and "Crusade" quickly come to mind when one thinks of something so vile as intense hatred.
Wiccan do not hate anyone, and in fact, our very faith demands that we love humanity, no matter what color, politics, lifestyle, or religion. We just reserve the right not to like everyone. Have you ever met, and spoken with a Wiccan, RevelationGeneration? Or did you get all that hateful rhetoric from that book? There is a lot of hate in the book, after all. You certainly did go to a great deal of trouble to make yourself look like a fool. I do not hate you, in fact, I love you.
The Father and Mother love you too, but I am not to sure of that which you call a God, even in his book he is cruel, bitter, bloodthirsty, and mean. You be happy with that hate, it looks good on you.



posted on Oct, 30 2011 @ 08:59 PM
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The purpose of this thread is to expose the wiccan religion as all forms of witchcraft are condemned in the Bible.


We get that, we can easily see your agenda, what we are saying to you is, prove the validity and truthfulness of the Bible? Show us the Origins. And Please, don't try to make us believe God wrote it either. See, unlike you, some of us members have done this, and what we found is what keeps us far away from religious cults. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, evidence beyond reproach evidence.



posted on Oct, 30 2011 @ 09:06 PM
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So where is your evidence that the original Roman Catholic Church made up our Saviour Lord Jesus? If you had you would bring it to the table for the world to see instead you hide it away because you really have none. Is that what wicca is about, spreading lies and deceiving people? Sure seems that way by the unfounded claims you have made...



Have you ever met, and spoken with a Wiccan, RevelationGeneration?


Yes I have, and that was my Grandmother many years ago before she died was a wiccan, she was a nice person but that does not mean I agree with what she did, after becoming a Christian I know now what she practiced was wrong, the Bible condemn's witchcraft.



posted on Oct, 30 2011 @ 09:07 PM
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See, unlike you, some of us members have done this, and what we found is what keeps us far away from religious cults.


So why are you apart of wicca (one of the biggest cults going)?



posted on Oct, 30 2011 @ 09:14 PM
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Originally posted by reficul
by the way pagan means rural person,heathen means you live in a grass hut,and 'witch'(wiccan) means someone who knows. christian means some poor dupe that has been lied to for 2000 years by a guy wearing a funny hat that looks strangely like the ripped it off from the egyptians and the sumerians, happy halloween,merry christmas and all the other celebrations you stole from other cultures


True! The origin of "Pagan" was "Pole," such as the pole a man would set in the ground to mark his property. "Heathen" comes from the root word "Hearth," this was a fireplace, and was the very first thing built, so the people who gathered around it for warmth were called "Heathens." "Christmas" meant "Christ's Mass," but it's original name was Yule. This came from from Old English geōl; akin to Old Norse jōl, a pagan midwinter festival, it's first known use was before the 12th century. Funny how those root words always get in the way of Christian witnessing!

And a Female Deity was worshiped for many thousands of years before the Holy Church came along and tried to wipe all this out.

Pagan Gods and Goddesses Worshipped under the guise of Christian Saints


Neolithic figures Diverse images of what are believed to be Mother Goddesses also have been discovered that date from the Neolithic period, the New Stone Age, which ranges from approximately 10,000 BCE when the use of wild cereals led to the beginning of farming, and eventually, to agriculture. The end of this Neolithic period is characterized by the introduction of metal tools as the skill appeared to spread from one culture to another, or arise independently as a new phase in an existing tool culture, and eventually became widespread among humans. Regional differences in the development of this stage of tool development are quite varied. In other parts of the world, such as Africa, South Asia, and Southeast Asia, independent domestication events led to their own patterns of development, while distinctive Neolithic cultures arose independently in Europe and Southwest Asia. During this time, native cultures appear in the Western Hemisphere, arising out of older traditions that were carried during migration. Regular seasonal occupation or permanent settlements begin to be seen in excavations. Herding and keeping of cattle, goats, sheep, and pigs is evidenced along with the presence of dogs. Almost without exception, images of what are interpreted as Mother Goddesses have been discovered in all of these cultures. Deity examples Many ancient cultures worshiped female deities who match the modern conception of a "mother goddess".
Wiki source



posted on Oct, 30 2011 @ 10:46 PM
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I think this thread has come to an end.
The Op isn't interested in discussing anything.
He wants to tell you his view of things. And anything that doesn't fit his view is wrong.

Also he avoids my questions on Exodus. I hope you didn't work on the sabbath. Otherwise you would be breaking Gods law and be a hypocrite for espousing gods law selectively.

You know Religion is like a penis. Sure we have one. But not everyone wants for you to wave it around in their faces no matter how nice it looks or how proud you are of it.

I hope that you read this and realize that while you may be correct as far as you are concerned.
Your condemnation of others Does nothing for your case no matter how well you present your case. And you do a good job of it make no mistake.

I am done with this thread.



posted on Oct, 30 2011 @ 11:23 PM
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I have some questins for revhen, and when i get into town on mondat, i want them awnsered.

1. Tell us your conversion story. Why are you christan now vs your old religon?
2. Tell me the diffrwnce between divine power and magic without using bible quotes, i would prefer common logic if possible.
3. When you say these thoughts are from luvifer, how do you suppose they got there?[direct talking,subliminals,possession,ect]
4. What else do you hate,?
Check all that apply:
Non-christians
Evolutionists
Gays
Humans
Gingers
Blacks
Mexicans
Herbal medicines
Catholics
Music stars
Harry potter
Unicorns
Puppies
Nyan cat

I will be awaiting my aqnees when i arrive into town.

do not dissapount me!!! [red]



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