Exposing the evils of Wicca Witchcraft!

Originally posted by Akragon
Apparently my question does not deserve an answer....

Mine either
seems he picks and choose's what to answer (he doesn't have them?)
Same as he picks and choose's what to believe in the bible despite claiming the bible is the word of god and he follows it all.....

Revalation,
Have you done what I asked or are you going to ignore me for statng the TRUTH?
Please adhere to the decorum of the hosting of a thread.

Namasté

Originally posted by RevelationGeneration
reply to post by windword

 

This theory of Jesus going around enchanting people is a weak one, but not only that, it is derived out of the fact that some people cannot face the thought that Jesus might be telling the truth, that he is the living God and can do anything he wants without the need for sorcery or witchcraft.

Mark 9:15
As soon as all the people saw Jesus, they were overwhelmed with wonder and ran to greet him.
Matthew 7:28
And it came to pass, when Jesus had ended these sayings, the people were astonished at his doctrine:
Mark 11:18
The chief priests and the teachers of the law heard this and began looking for a way to kill him, for they feared him, because the whole crowd was amazed at his teaching.

Sounds like he was pretty enchanting to me. So much so that he made the chief priests afraid. Why? Because he was teaching the secrets of the ancient mystics....taboo stuff for ordinary people, blasphemy!

I never said that Jesus wasn't telling the truth. I don't believe everything in the bible about him, and there are many documents missing from the bible, that document his teachings in sorcerery.

It is uncomfortable for you to believe that Jesus did actually accomplish miracles. Why? Because if he really did as the Bible said then we need to change, we need to repent, and we need to trust in him. Following Jesus is not a philosophy, it is an active lifestyle. Jesus requires everything from us, and we get more than the world in return.

To avoid this problem, you have convinced yourself that Jesus was some kind of magician or enchanter, which is the exact same false accusations that the Jewish scribes made at the time.

Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.
Arthur C. Clarke,

An ignorant person's miracle is an educated persons magical science! I don't know how many biblical miracles ascribed to Jesus really happened, but if they did, it was magic!

It is a pitty, but the more you falsely accuse Jesus of being a witch the more you are proving my point that wicca leads down a very dark path, a path of deceit where the demonic spirits (nature spirits) you have communicated have been lying to you. Wake up...

Jesus, who was the son of a carpenter, lived to become a powerful magician of the shamic, mysticism of the ancient arts, as taught by Moses and handed down through the ages by mystics of all corners of the world. This power is the Christ consciousness that Jesus taught. He claimed to teach "the Way" "the Tao" He never claimed to be God.

You are the one calling Jesus a witch. You are a false teacher, misleading people with fear and hate, to believe that they can't follow the way that Jesus taught without betraying him. Insanity!

Originally posted by eight bits
WarminIndy

All four acts suggest that the answer to Akragon's question is that Jesus might well have had a more permissive attitude toward sorcery in general than his time, place and religion might suggest. This would make the OP's extravagant rejection of a specific and mild kind of witchcraft all the more remarkable.

edit on 30-10-2011 by eight bits because: an untoward toward.

Cleansing spells and exorcism are different because Wiccans do not believe in an evil entity that needs exorcised, they believe in negative forces. I think you and Ako are actually trying to defend each other by tossing the ball back and forth.

Jesus came to save people then, at that time He did not condone hurting people or allowing them to be killed. That should not be misconstrued as tolerance on His part, but rather it was a part of His mercy and grace because He was not targeting specific sins. But the Bible is very clear in that when He returns it will be for the destruction of the wicked.

Jesus did not practice sorcery, He obeyed the law in obedience unto His death. But He resurrected and went to Heaven with the promise He would come back again, and that is for the judgment of the world. The Bible is specific and clear on that. So don't think just because He didn't go around condemning witchcraft, does not mean he approved of it. It was not time yet for judgment.

And if you recall on the Mount of Transfiguration, Jesus DID NOT call Moses and Elijah. You have to realize that Elijah had never died, he was taken to heaven. Moses did die, but God hid his body of which Michael and Satan actually fought over. The witch of Endor was approached by Saul to call up Samuel, and even said to Saul that it was against the law to do that. When Samuel came up, the witch of Endor was so afraid she ran away in fear. Saul died the next day because he had broken the law against communication with the dead.

Jesus is greater than Saul and Samuel. So don't mistake Jesus' non-action against as approval for. We saw what Jesus did to the sellers in the temple. Judgment is coming, the Bible is very clear on that.

And don't mistake this as preaching, it is all a part of theological discussion.

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reply to post by windword

Interesting passage you put in there

Jesus, who was the son of a carpenter, lived to become a powerful magician of the shamic, mysticism of the ancient arts, as taught by Moses and handed down through the ages by mystics of all corners of the world. This power is the Christ consciousness that Jesus taught. He claimed to teach "the Way" "the Tao" He never claimed to be God

I saw a movie called Man from earth and you should watch it www.imdb.com... very good film and has to do with what you have just said.
Interesting fact about Taoism George Lucas based the Force on it.
Also if you look at the moon it has the yin and yang symbol on it.
not a very good picture but when the moon is full check it out
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Originally posted by windword

Originally posted by RevelationGeneration
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Jesus, who was the son of a carpenter, lived to become a powerful magician of the shamic, mysticism of the ancient arts, as taught by Moses and handed down through the ages by mystics of all corners of the world. This power is the Christ consciousness that Jesus taught. He claimed to teach "the Way" "the Tao" He never claimed to be God.

edit on 30-10-2011 by windword because: (no reason given)

Jesus never taught the Way, He said He IS THE WAY, and the TRUTH and the LIFE.

Taoism is

Taoist propriety and ethics emphasize the Three Jewels of the Tao: compassion, moderation, and humility, while Taoist thought generally focuses on nature, the relationship between humanity and the cosmos (天人相应); health and longevity; and wu wei (action through inaction). Harmony with the Universe, or the source thereof (Tao), is the intended result of many Taoist rules and practices. Reverence for ancestor spirits and immortals is common in popular Taoism. Organized Taoism distinguishes its ritual activity from that of the folk religion, which some professional Taoists (Dàoshi) view as debased. Chinese alchemy (including Neidan), astrology, cuisine, Zen Buddhism, several Chinese martial arts, traditional Chinese medicine, feng shui, and many styles of qigong have been intertwined with Taoism throughout history.

Jesus never taught to achieve harmony with nature, He is Lord over all creation, that means nature. He was present in creation, therefore nature is subject to Him. Jesus never taught reverence for ancestors, in fact ancestor worship was forbidden.

You certainly cannot say Jesus was Taoist, because absolutely nothing He taught was remotely Taoist.

When Jesus said He is the Way, He means HE IS THE WAY, He never said you achieve the way like He did, He said He is the Way. We come to the Father through Him and only through Him. That Father is called a Man who does not lie, He is called a consuming fire and He searches the inward parts of man. Not the other way around.

reply to post by RevelationGeneration


Have you done as I asked?
Please adhere to the decorum! It makes this discussion a far dignified one!

Namasté

Just a question for the wicca's I have been researching Taoism recently and It seems it could go hand in hand with being a wicca...thoughts?

Jesus never taught to achieve harmony with nature, He is Lord over all creation, that means nature. He was present in creation, therefore nature is subject to Him. Jesus never taught reverence for ancestors, in fact ancestor worship was forbidden.

Ugh... No one is above NATURE other than NATURE.

Namasté

Originally posted by boymonkey74
Just a question for the wicca's I have been researching Taoism recently and It seems it could go hand in hand with being a wicca...thoughts?

Most NATURE based religions are actually quite close to one and another, but differ in other aspects. But in general...yes, they are almost identical.IMHO, not speaking for others here.

Namasté

reply to post by KhaliWitch

As for answer number 2 = Satan is by definition a part of the Christian religion, therefore I do not recognise this "entity" as being any more real than I find the Toothfairy real. Is that understandable to you? If not please tell me so that I can clarify it further for you.

I understand that you Deny Satan. And that as Wiccans you vehemently deny the existence of a devil. You attribute the term "Satan" as being the sole invention of Christians. But its ironic how wiccans claim to follow the god of light. Interestingly, "Lucifer" means just that...bearer of light. 2nd Corinthians 11:14 warns us that Satan appears as the "light."

The problem is that you don't see your wrong doing as "sin." In fact, Wicca is perfectly acceptant of many practices which the Word of God declares an "abomination unto God." One such evil practice is homosexuality. Occult doctrines such as Yin-Yang are extremely popular with the homosexual community because of the fact that there are NO absolutes. The TRUTH is that there is no way for Wiccans to deal with sin...because they don't acknowledge their sins as being sinful in the first place. Since the Witches don't believe in sin, their entire moral conscience is obliterated (and their minds corrupted). The result is that many sinful activities which are condemned in God's Word are openly practiced by witches...such as sexual immorality during their occult rituals...

As I mentioned earlier, Wiccans are openly acceptant of sexual sins which are Biblically prohibited. Witchcraft is infamous for sexual rituals and ceremonial nudity. Anton LaVey, founder of the CHURCH OF SATAN, wrote a book called, The Satanic Witch, in which teaches women how to take advantage of men. The book is pure evil and promotes the sins of feminism and sexual immorality. From researching their own writings and websites, witches are well-known for lesbianism, orgies and sexual licentiousness. No wonder you also worship the Pagan god, Pan (the world's foremost sexual pervert).

You can't just decide for yourself what is right and wrong. The whole reason why God gave us the Old Testament Law was to give us the KNOWLEDGE OF SIN (Romans 3:20, "Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin"). The Apostle Paul said in Romans 7:13 that the Law made his sins EXCEEDING SINFUL! Wiccans have no knowledge of sin because they deliberately reject Christ and His Eternal Word.

I have done my research, and I hope you come to repentance soon and put your trust is Lord Jesus Christ...

Originally posted by KhaliWitch
Ugh... No one is above NATURE other than NATURE.

Namasté

Really? So then who do you think created nature?

Originally posted by RevelationGeneration
reply to post by KhaliWitch

 

As for answer number 2 = Satan is by definition a part of the Christian religion, therefore I do not recognise this "entity" as being any more real than I find the Toothfairy real. Is that understandable to you? If not please tell me so that I can clarify it further for you.

I understand that you Deny Satan. And that as Wiccans you vehemently deny the existence of a devil. You attribute the term "Satan" as being the sole invention of Christians. But its ironic how wiccans claim to follow the god of light. Interestingly, "Lucifer" means just that...bearer of light. 2nd Corinthians 11:14 warns us that Satan appears as the "light."

The problem is that you don't see your wrong doing as "sin." In fact, Wicca is perfectly acceptant of many practices which the Word of God declares an "abomination unto God." One such evil practice is homosexuality. Occult doctrines such as Yin-Yang are extremely popular with the homosexual community because of the fact that there are NO absolutes. The TRUTH is that there is no way for Wiccans to deal with sin...because they don't acknowledge their sins as being sinful in the first place. Since the Witches don't believe in sin, their entire moral conscience is obliterated (and their minds corrupted). The result is that many sinful activities which are condemned in God's Word are openly practiced by witches...such as sexual immorality during their occult rituals...

As I mentioned earlier, Wiccans are openly acceptant of sexual sins which are Biblically prohibited. Witchcraft is infamous for sexual rituals and ceremonial nudity. Anton LaVey, founder of the CHURCH OF SATAN, wrote a book called, The Satanic Witch, in which teaches women how to take advantage of men. The book is pure evil and promotes the sins of feminism and sexual immorality. From researching their own writings and websites, witches are well-known for lesbianism, orgies and sexual licentiousness. No wonder you also worship the Pagan god, Pan (the world's foremost sexual pervert).

You can't just decide for yourself what is right and wrong. The whole reason why God gave us the Old Testament Law was to give us the KNOWLEDGE OF SIN (Romans 3:20, "Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin"). The Apostle Paul said in Romans 7:13 that the Law made his sins EXCEEDING SINFUL! Wiccans have no knowledge of sin because they deliberately reject Christ and His Eternal Word.

I have done my research, and I hope you come to repentance soon and put your trust is Lord Jesus Christ...

edit on 30-10-2011 by RevelationGeneration because: (no reason given)

Big problem = I do not follow Pan or any other male deity....oops
Look at my avatar = I follow Gaïa and Khali, 2 FEMALE deities. Google them and then you can talk to me further!

Namasté

Originally posted by RevelationGeneration

Originally posted by KhaliWitch
Ugh... No one is above NATURE other than NATURE.

Namasté

Really? So then who do you think created nature?

edit on 30-10-2011 by RevelationGeneration because: (no reason given)

NATURE is and always will remain GAÏA, who by definition is NATURE.

Namasté

reply to post by RevelationGeneration


When I have more time, I will comment more. In other words , all religions outside of Christianity is devil worship?? That is a BOLD statement. I have studied religions, lots of them. I started at Mesopotamia and worked my way up, there is such an obvious tie-in within them all it is undeniable. I am afraid you have opened a whole new can of worms......be back later!!!

Originally posted by Minori
reply to post by RevelationGeneration

 

When I have more time, I will comment more. In other words , all religions outside of Christianity is devil worship?? That is a BOLD statement. I have studied religions, lots of them. I started at Mesopotamia and worked my way up, there is such an obvious tie-in within them all it is undeniable. I am afraid you have opened a whole new can of worms......be back later!!!

That is correct. I would also agree with the part in your post I made bold accept christianity.

reply to post by RevelationGeneration


Are you ignoring me?

Namasté

reply to post by KhaliWitch


He is ignoring anyone who asks questions he doesn't know the answer to. Because he wants to keep teaching without having any knowledge.

Originally posted by KhaliWitch
Big problem = I do not follow Pan or any other male deity....oops
Look at my avatar = I follow Gaïa and Khali, 2 FEMALE deities. Google them and then you can talk to me further!

Namasté

Yes but other wiccans do, and that is the point, also it doesn't matter which of the false deities you worship, they are all the same. I know who Gaïa she is another demonic spirit straight from the pits of hell.

You also ignored the whole part of my post about sexual immorality that wiccans partake in.