This Whole "Occupy Wallstreet" thing seems like theater of the absurd.

Originally posted by femalepharoe

Originally posted by reallywow

Originally posted by gncnew

Originally posted by MasterGemini

Originally posted by Honor93
reply to post by Cinaed

 

kudos to you and thanks for reminding me ...

I know people that have lived in their car until they got a few paychecks.

i lived in my Beretta with 2 cats for nearly a month until i could get back on my feet ... it can be done, you just don't wahna wah, wah, wah ... whine, whine, whine.

sorry, but you get no pity from me ... been there, done that and i don't have a degree.

How do I sleep in a car I don't own?

I am not crying about pity or any crap like that.

I am calling you on your bull# about only lazy people not having a job.

Your massive intellect can only come up with washing windows . . .

edit on 5-10-2011 by MasterGemini because: (no reason given)

And we wonder why the Mexican's are invading our nation and stealing the jobs. YOU FIND A WAY dude... you pull up your boots and find a way to make it happen.

People with less going for them than you do it ever single day in this country.

You are whining and complaining. if you put half the energy you've spent here arguing trying to get a job - you'd be too busy to post on here because you'd be employed.

I love how the young pup - who has no job and isn't willing to move out of his comfort zone - is calling us out of touch because we're telling him how to change that.

Hey Gemini - guess who's the type of people that are hiring? The same people you're calling out of touch and "old timer".

You need the job, not us - we have jobs. You don't have to take anyone's advice, but the definition of insanity is to continue doing the same thing but expecting different results... how's it working for you so far?

BRAVO!

Life is about getting up... time after time; after time; after time, etc, etc

Look. I've been laid off twice; survived Cancer and went through treatments that ended our chance to have kids naturally. I do not say that for pity, it's only mentioned because looking back on it - while VERY difficult - those hardships defined who I am...

The beauty of life is NOT the destination... it is the journey. TOO many people forget that...

I completely agree. However, this is about politics.
And politcally, we elect officials to promote our agenda - whatever our agenda may be. So if bankers and elected officials are sidestepping the system set up for Our entitlement to Life , Liberty and OUR Pursuit of Happiness. Thus greatly hindering the journey we set out on.

And on that tip, the " life is about getting up time and time again" : Shouldn't you ask "Who keeps pushing me down ? "

I think its a valid and fair question.

Wether you agree or not these people are exercising their rights,if you are not one of the 400 people that own over half of the American Wealth ( which ,lets be honest , it ain't through "hard work" that you get to own the resources/ wealth of HALF a NATION , would you say the Saudi Oil kings got to be trillion airs due to their "hard work"??) and are attacking them it only shows how successful their brainwashing campaign is.

edit on 6-10-2011 by femalepharoe because: (no reason given)

You're right... that is a fair question. No doubt, there are times where you need to fight back and stand up for yourself and others. ....but, I also think that the fight needs to be well directed.

Originally posted by gncnew

Originally posted by JustXeno
To the op, I read most of what you said until I got to this bit copied and pasted from your post. "The Federal Reserve is a governmental institution" stopped reading after that.

Look - here's the deal. While by technicality it's not a governmental institution - in practicality it is. Rather than go into the semantics of the relationship between the Fed and the Gov, it's easier to simply state the reality of the situation than get into the technical minutia of it.

The Fed has become an active appendage of the Gov.

It's more like the government is an appendage of the Federal Reserve. The banks and corporations run and control everything these days.

reply to post by Jessicamsa


Which is EXACTLY what the protestors are again...and it's not as if they're hiding that

Kinda hilarious how some people miss that (sad at the same time though)

Bill Ayers posted a statement titled:

Occupy Wall Street! Collective statement of the protesters…

Its too long to post here but it appears that he has taken credit for coordinating the protest, is announcing his voice as the leader of the protesters, and offering all the resources at his disposal to anyone protesting.

Yup, that Bill Ayers. You know...Obama's buddy.

Originally posted by Shamatt
I'm getting a bit fed up with people who think they have t innsult people just because they don't agree with them.

agreed and ditto

why don't you go learn how to converse with some civility and respect.

why??????? what difference does it really make, ppl will do what they will do regardless of how they may be insulted.
i grew up in the era of "tough love" and i realize that isn't promoted these days but guess what? it worked and well.

the analogy of "blindly following a leader off the cliff of reality" is hardly an insult ... if you perceive such, sorry for your misinterpretation.

What have you achieved propped up behind your computer all year?

plenty ... not that it is any of your business

and see, that ^^^^^^ is typical of those who have no argument ... attack, attack and attack the messenger.

reply to post by AzureSky


They could find jobs if they weren't picky. Not one of them is willing to start at an entry level job then work themselves up through the ranks. Crying about how minimum wage isn't a living wage well it never was...when I was just starting out we worked two or three jobs, had room mates, lived off top ramen until we worked our way to the top.

Originally posted by MasterGemini
LoL at the retarded advice.

Oh your all just lazy what you should do is walk for three days to where all the jobs are
(barefoot and in the snow if at all possible)

then sleep in a park

while you wander the city volunteering while you build a network of business associates

Oh how will you feed yourself? Trash cans and dumpsters are all over.

No.

Since I graduated in May there has been fewer than 450k jobs created in the entire nation.

The barriers to entry for starting my own business are too high as I am in debt with no job . . . now who is going to lend to me?

I hope none of you find yourself or any loved ones in such a situation, but if you do . . . I am going to piss on you when I walk by just to return the gesture.

edit on 6-10-2011 by MasterGemini because: (no reason given)

In advance... I'm sorry...but...

What a douche.

reply to post by reallywow


Have you read the pages leading up to that comment?

No?

LoL enjoy your douching, douche bag

Originally posted by marzabeth
reply to post by AzureSky

 

They could find jobs if they weren't picky. Not one of them is willing to start at an entry level job then work themselves up through the ranks. Crying about how minimum wage isn't a living wage well it never was...when I was just starting out we worked two or three jobs, had room mates, lived off top ramen until we worked our way to the top.

Prove that not a single unemployed person is unwilling to start at an entry level job.

There are not anywhere near enough minimum wage jobs for everyone. Around here there are thousands of applicants per job opening, even at McDonalds.

Originally posted by Jessicamsa

Originally posted by marzabeth
reply to post by AzureSky

 

They could find jobs if they weren't picky. Not one of them is willing to start at an entry level job then work themselves up through the ranks. Crying about how minimum wage isn't a living wage well it never was...when I was just starting out we worked two or three jobs, had room mates, lived off top ramen until we worked our way to the top.

Prove that not a single unemployed person is unwilling to start at an entry level job.

There are not anywhere near enough minimum wage jobs for everyone. Around here there are thousands of applicants per job opening, even at McDonalds.

Why bother continuing with these folks?

All they will say is you are lazy . . . .

Where there is a will there is a way . . .

Back in my day . . . (back in your day was NOTHING like today, welcome back to reality)

You know what I see? I see a plethora of twenty something people that had everything given to them by their parents and have no concept of what it means to be responsible for your self. I happen to see help wanted sings all over the place, everywhere I go there are more and more signs in shops. But guess what? Not one of these so called disenfranchised will apply. Why? Because after spending four or more years in college they feel entitled to a better paying job in their chosen field. They whine that they can't afford the rent, afford the payment on their car all the while they are texting on their iphone...they are living with mom and dad and still expect to be wearing the latest fashions.

My 'day' wasn't that long ago and yes, I spent eight years in college and have a MFA and you know, I didn't get famous or land a fabulous job in the art world. I'm not whining. I dealt with reality.

I happen to hate with a passion corporate America...so much so that I make most of our things from scratch, I grow most of my own vegetables, belong to a coop for what I can't grow, I cook from scratch including breads, make my own clothes, shop at the thrift store, ride my bike everywhere, I research companies before I buy from them. Why do I do all of this? Because I realized that the best way to stop Corporate America was to not buy their crap.

It makes me absolutely sick to see so many people blindly following a bunch of barely disguised communists. Read what the originator of OWS is all about. Adbusters. See what they have to say about you. They think that people are too stupid to think for themselves so they want to do it for them. They think that you are all just brainwashed pawns of the media willing to buy into whatever they sell. They think that the TV's in your house are the root of mental pollution.

If you really want to make a change then do it...don't go around whining and making everyone else's lives a mess. If you hate corporate greed then trash your cel phones, ditch the TV, the car, the clothes, the deodorant...ditch it all. That'll teach them to make anything for you again. If you do all that see how much money you have left over every month after working that minimum wage job.

Originally posted by marzabeth
You know what I see? I see a plethora of twenty something people that had everything given to them by their parents and have no concept of what it means to be responsible for your self. I happen to see help wanted sings all over the place, everywhere I go there are more and more signs in shops. But guess what? Not one of these so called disenfranchised will apply. Why? Because after spending four or more years in college they feel entitled to a better paying job in their chosen field. They whine that they can't afford the rent, afford the payment on their car all the while they are texting on their iphone...they are living with mom and dad and still expect to be wearing the latest fashions.

My 'day' wasn't that long ago and yes, I spent eight years in college and have a MFA and you know, I didn't get famous or land a fabulous job in the art world. I'm not whining. I dealt with reality.

If you really want to make a change then do it...don't go around whining and making everyone else's lives a mess. If you hate corporate greed then trash your cel phones, ditch the TV, the car, the clothes, the deodorant...ditch it all. That'll teach them to make anything for you again. If you do all that see how much money you have left over every month after working that minimum wage job.

See Jessicamsa, they will just say you are lazy and don't try hard enough.

Marzabeth:

Try reading this article and get a more clear and FACTUALLY SUPPORTED version of reality.

Census: Recession Turning Young Adults Into Lost Generation
www.huffingtonpost.com...

Young adults are the recession's lost generation.

In record numbers, they're struggling to find work, shunning long-distance moves to live with mom and dad, delaying marriage and raising kids out of wedlock, if they're becoming parents at all. The unemployment rate for them is the highest since World War II, and they risk living in poverty more than others – nearly 1 in 5.

New 2010 census data released Thursday show the wrenching impact of a recession that officially ended in mid-2009. There are missed opportunities and dim prospects for a generation of mostly 20-somethings and 30-somethings coming of age in a prolonged period of joblessness.

"We have a monster jobs problem, and young people are the biggest losers," said Andrew Sum, an economist and director of the Center for Labor Market Studies at Northeastern University. He noted that for recent college graduates getting by on waitressing, bartending and odd jobs, they will have to compete with new graduates for entry-level career positions when the job market does improve.

"Their really high levels of underemployment and unemployment will haunt young people for at least another decade," Sum said.

Younger Generations and the Prospect of Retirement
lewrockwell.com...

Your OPINION is based on the fantasy world you live in. How about you bring in some facts, data, or any other form of primary or secondary information that will support your case?

Until then you are just another asshole spewing hot air.

reply to post by MasterGemini

Try getting you "facts" from other sources for a change and see what you have yet to learn!!!

Originally posted by Cinaed
reply to post by MasterGemini

 

Try getting you "facts" from other sources for a change and see what you have yet to learn!!!

Like the US CENSUS?

What is wrong with the census as a source?



Or are you referring to the first website that copy and pasted the story from AP?

You can't offer anything can you?

reply to post by Honor93


Well, I am glad we can agree on something.

Also - for the reccord - I felt like I was being attacked. Now we both do. Perhaps there was an alternative route this conversation could have taken where we acheived the same result, but without the insults? You know, without calling anyone a blind folower destined for the cliff for example? Without my responding to that with a further insult?

Food for thought.

reply to post by MasterGemini


I am a single mom and I found a job as a waitress. Most people look down on that but I manage to raise my daughter and we own our own home, live in a great neighborhood, am paying off my monstrous MFA school loan...all on a waitresses salary in Southern California. Don't try to tell me people can not find work. I worked hard to find employment, made a bunch of sacrifices and I love my life. It's simple and I wouldn't change it for a second.

I speak of what I know. People are whiny. I could be one of them but I choose to make my own decisions and be self reliant.

Originally posted by marzabeth
reply to post by MasterGemini

 

I am a single mom and I found a job as a waitress. Most people look down on that but I manage to raise my daughter and we own our own home, live in a great neighborhood, am paying off my monstrous MFA school loan...all on a waitresses salary in Southern California. Don't try to tell me people can not find work. I worked hard to find employment, made a bunch of sacrifices and I love my life. It's simple and I wouldn't change it for a second.

I speak of what I know. People are whiny. I could be one of them but I choose to make my own decisions and be self reliant.

I am very impressed with how you manage your life. But I would ask this. In some places there are 5 or 6 people for every 1 job. What are people to do in areas where there are so many more unemployed people than jobs available for them? The areas do exist.

I agree - there are way too many "whiny" people who do not want to go out and work hard to find a job, and then work hard at their job. But take it from someone who has been made redundent several times, when there are more people than jobs for them, the match just does not add up.

Perhaps some people really do have something to "whine" about?

reply to post by marzabeth


A waitresses salary in California is way way higher than here in Arizona.

4.25 is minimum wage for serving then add tips. And only part time.

LOL You live in California, that in itself means everyone is complaining 24/7 in the first place.

I knew you had no facts to back up your BS.

And you can thank those "whiney" little bitches for your high minimum wage in addition to your tips.

HAHAHAHA

ok guys, let's clarify a few things ...

@ reallywow

Isn't the FED in Washington DC??

because you asked, and no one really answered ... NO it isn't.
The Fed referenced is the Federal Reserve which encompasses the entire country and external territories via a 12 district/regional identification system. The Board of Governors convenes in DC and host their propaganda events there but it is not a regional location in and of itself. DC is covered in the 5th district and based in Richmond, VA.
FR districts
for more info: FR facts
ownership
more

ppl need to understand ... neither banks, wall street or Congress function without the FR.
it is designed this way. No FR, the illusion collapses. the facade is uncovered and the re-building can begin.
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@ gncnew
please learn the difference, it is huge. see above.
also agree with your sentiment and thanks for the contributions.
don't know if you saw this post ... www.abovetopsecret.com...
but it sure tells me all i need to know to be convinced this path is winding in the wrong direction.
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@ Jessicamsa
sorry to hear about your struggles, hang tough, you are not alone even though it may feel that way sometimes. I sympathize with your situation (have one of my own i don't care to share) just know that as one door closes, there is always another door opening. it is up to us to walk through it

but they should be aware of the consequences so they can plan accordingly

totally agree and i do think that is exactly what is wrong with these protests ... no one participating is / has / or seems to want to contemplate, discuss or consider the consequences of said acts. There are consequences to every decision and protesting without direction or a plan of recovery is foolish and unproductive.

Around here there are thousands of applicants per job opening, even at McDonalds.

the bold "around here" is exactly the point.
i am not disputing what you say but around here clearly isn't everywhere.
whether you choose to change "around here" is a decision that will have consequences but so does the one to stay wherever you are. surely you see and understand that?
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@ MGemini

your humor is almost as strong as your motivation.

good luck in your journey ... tis a shame to read that you are soooo entrenched that you cannot even see outside the box let alone think or step outside of it. seriously, best wishes, you're gonna need it.

Back in my day . . . (back in your day was NOTHING like today, welcome back to reality)

thanks for the reminder ... you're right it was nothing like today, it WAS much MORE challenging and difficult, yet, we did it, what's your problem?

ever pool 5 families resources together just so everyone had food and toiletries? we have
ever stand in line for hours in knee deep snow waiting for your ration of cheese and bread? we did
ever have to leave 3 hrs early for work because you'd be waiting in line for your ration of gas? we did

please, do tell us some more about how tough you have it.

so, you diss and mock the initiative of one who walks south for 3 days because he acted on his desire to make a change for the better ... then you praise those who want something for nothing?
selfish, selfish and just plain selfish.
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@ everyone
who may have joined the thread late, many of us support A protest for the right reasons and in the right location(s) with an acceptable plan of recovery.
OWS and the mess that has assumed control is not worthy my support, plain and simple.

i am not against the concept, just the current application with no plan.

** did anyone hear Obama himself say (and i paraphrase) well, what they did wasn't exactly illegal or criminal, more immoral ... blah, blah, blah ***

so yes, ppl on the Hill are hearing but they are NOT listening and that is a problem.

Obama and this admin have no intention of prosecuting those who they believe aren't doing anything illegal. all the protests in the world won't achieve what should be the goal.
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@ marzabeth
kudos for succeeding against the odds
and if i could give you extra stars i would ... a fine example you present of how to combat the system ... starve the beast !!!
if only others would follow the right leaders

Originally posted by RandomThought
You guys obviously don't know what occupy wallstreet is all about. You think its all children then you are just plain and simple being ignorant. I'm not going to sit here and explain what its all about, its all over the web and easy to obtain information.

You think people are doing this because they don't want to work? are you kidding me?

You have 2 more stars then the OP. And that makes me happy.
My work here is done... Wallstreet Protesters obviously have a purpose
many purposes and many problems that people want to deal with.
Do your research OP and any one who agree's with him.. ffs...