Job! Jobs! Jobs! Cheering on our own slavery. Employment bubble popped. Fight against work.

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Making claims that redefine context so that black is white and white is black doesn't do anything for me.

Then why do you keep doing just that?

Clearly it does not work for you.

Originally posted by poet1b
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Because when the master, that provides you food and shelter says jump, you better reply with "how high".

These are the words of a slave.

The better way to live is without a master. If you have skills, then you have no master.

I tell my kid if she wants something, she has to work to get it. If she wants clean room, she must clean it. I don't have to bark orders. It is a very effective life lesson.

Work isn't doing what you are told, work is doing what you need to do in order to get what you want.

My boss doesn't tell me what to do, because he doesn't know how to do my job. The people I do work for contact me, and ask me to work for them. I don't ask people for a job. They are not my masters, they are people who need my skills. And there are plenty of them out there.

The problem is the ICs who control the money supply. You don't get that, and obviously you never will, because of the way you think. You blame government for the problems created by the ICs, because you don't want to see your master for what it is.

Me thinks you are applying my quote incorrectly.
Maybe re-read and come back.

My comment is towards the idea of a Govt giving me food and shelter.

Originally posted by doctornamtab

Originally posted by macman

Originally posted by doctornamtab
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You're all about control huh? You imitate the dominator model in your own home. You are the master, they are the slaves.

A sustainable, work to eat economy is a pie in the sky idea. Its not going to last ten years let alone two years. The world you're defending is falling apart before your very eyes, read a paper.

Yep, because I go home and scare the family with my brutish ways.

Nice application of Alinsky Rules.

The world is not falling apart, It is in upheaval.

The idea of personal property and responsibility has been around for thousands of years, and will remain long after this hiccup.

You have Chicken Little painting with a very broad brush.
What better way to excite the panic, and push people towards this Socialist idea.

There it is! I knew you'd scream Socialist! soon enough.

I dont know why I even bother arguing with military people. Their true selves have been broken down with almost scientific precision and then built back up with the value system of the established evil empire.

I dont blame you for your selfish, greedy and short sighted opinions. They're not really yours. They've literally been beaten into you.

Nope, not due to the Military at all. Had this point of view along time before those days.
But, nice to attack me on that.
It is not greed, nor selfishness or any other crap you want to throw up on the wall.
I give, when and how I want to.
Being forced by the Govt is wrong.

That is the difference.

But, I only expect you will ignore that and continue on.

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I mean no disrespect, but young people like you are the problem... all across the globe.
Come back in 29 years and let us know how that utopia fantasy is working out for you.

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Clearly from your comments, what I say is dead on accurate.

You don't see work as a means to an end, you see it as doing what you are told to do.

You blame government because you are told to blame government

You refuse to see how the corporate bankers are screwing things up for everyone, because you are told to believe that corporations can do no wrong.

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Its been at least 29 years since Reagan got elected, and started preaching the whole free market con job, and that utopia dream did not work out at all.

Some people just don't learn anything out of life.

Originally posted by poet1b
reply to post by macman

 

Clearly from your comments, what I say is dead on accurate.

You don't see work as a means to an end, you see it as doing what you are told to do.

You blame government because you are told to blame government

You refuse to see how the corporate bankers are screwing things up for everyone, because you are told to believe that corporations can do no wrong.

What are you talking about?

Ever posts from you gets more confused as you go.

Honestly, let me lay it out, again, in a single post.

I work, because I choose to.
I provide for myself and my family, because I choose to work.
I do not work because anyone tells me to.
I choose my financial status, no one else.
I choose to pay off bills, so I do not owe banks.
I choose not to live off the Govt, because I don't want the strings that come with the Govt providing for me.
I choose to help others, in my way and how I see fit.
Being forced, via taxes, by gun point or incarceration is wrong, but I must submit because the Govt provides for others.
I choose to submit, because I don't like the idea of jail.

Is this clear? Or are you going to reply with another cryptic retort?

Originally posted by sickofitall2012
reply to post by doctornamtab

 

I mean no disrespect, but young people like you are the problem... all across the globe.
Come back in 29 years and let us know how that utopia fantasy is working out for you.

You know all you old people are the problem. You have old ideas, old ways of doing things and old mindsets that are holding us back from our true potential. How many 20-somethings are multi-national CEOs or in government. ZERO. Young people don't even have the chance to be the problem.

How many 50 somethings are in government and CEOs? Now, tell me again who the problem age group is?

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For real? A guy that was in the MILITARY doesnt want the government telling him what to do?

Irony much?

Originally posted by doctornamtab
reply to post by macman

 

For real? A guy that was in the MILITARY doesnt want the government telling him what to do?

Irony much?

Maybe that is why I got out. Maybe just maybe? You think?

Or maybe, I choose the deal with the crap for X amount of years as a way to provide me with skills for a career.

reply to post by doctornamtab


Do you have any idea how long your types have been around? Since the dawn of man, it's called youth. I know because I was one, and I had the same flighty ideas... save the world... world peace... blah blah blah. NOT POSSIBLE. TOO MANY PEOPLE NOW. You'll get it some day.
FYI, I'm not old, unless the lower 30's is old to you.

Originally posted by macman

Originally posted by doctornamtab
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For real? A guy that was in the MILITARY doesnt want the government telling him what to do?

Irony much?

Maybe that is why I got out. Maybe just maybe? You think?

Or maybe, I choose the deal with the crap for X amount of years as a way to provide me with skills for a career.

Is that what the military does? I thought it was just another arm of big business and government that tricks the poor into doing all the dirty work.

I'm glad you got out alive but why do you still defend military values if you rejected them when you quit?

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I think this is a loss cause.
They don't get it.
Thank you for serving this country btw.

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Democrats are what got us here.
Do your homework before preaching to me.

It isn't socialist. This is straight up Marxism Communism.

Even physics doesn't agree with you.

Originally posted by sickofitall2012
reply to post by doctornamtab

 

Do you have any idea how long your types have been around? Since the dawn of man, it's called youth. I know because I was one, and I had the same flighty ideas... save the world... world peace... blah blah blah. NOT POSSIBLE. TOO MANY PEOPLE NOW. You'll get it some day.
FYI, I'm not old, unless the lower 30's is old to you.

What is the old saying.
If you are in your 20's and not a Dem, you are heartless
If you are in your 30's and not a Rep, you are financial dumb

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It is as if you don't read your own posts. You keep throwing up nonsense, pretending that you aren't constantly countering your earlier posts.

Being forced, via taxes, by gun point or incarceration is wrong, but I must submit because the Govt provides for others.

If you believe in military spending, then your taxes are going towards what you want them to go towards.

You want to pretend that those who the Govt provides for are not the corporations that you defend in post after post.

Originally posted by poet1b
reply to post by sickofitall2012

 

Its been at least 29 years since Reagan got elected, and started preaching the whole free market con job, and that utopia dream did not work out at all.

Some people just don't learn anything out of life.

Regan preached the Free Market con job?!?

Have you ever heard of someone named Locke?

Originally posted by doctornamtab

Originally posted by macman

Originally posted by doctornamtab
reply to post by macman

 

For real? A guy that was in the MILITARY doesnt want the government telling him what to do?

Irony much?

Maybe that is why I got out. Maybe just maybe? You think?

Or maybe, I choose the deal with the crap for X amount of years as a way to provide me with skills for a career.

Is that what the military does? I thought it was just another arm of big business and government that tricks the poor into doing all the dirty work.

I'm glad you got out alive but why do you still defend military values if you rejected them when you quit?

You assume a great deal, don't you?

If I have to explain it, you will never understand.

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Republicans have controlled the fed gov for most of the last thirty years.

You are living in the land of denial if you blame democrats for the results of deregulation.