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The Norway massacre and the question nobody cares to ask

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posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 09:07 AM
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How in the world could the gunman go unchallenged for 2 hrs? Everybody has a cell phone to make calls. Did it take the Norwegian police two hours to respond?



posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 09:23 AM
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When I was turning TV to see what's going on with US debt default agreement, news was filled with Norway incident. Not only Norway, train got derailed in China, and other shooting incident in US.
I think this is destraction strategy for covering up important issue such as US debt default.
In his facebook, he was interested in freemasonry as well. And he may be one of the mindcontrolled agent to trigger the big incident when it needs to happen.
Now why Norway?
Norway is wealthy country which has its own currency and with socialism.
It has over 50,000 per GDP, 3% level unemployment, low debt to GDP ratio.
This is unacceptible country model for the TPTB. They want model with few rich people enslaving majority of people with high debt ratio so that they can control the nation at the curtain.
The victims were teenagers at youthcamp for future politicans. They wiped out 100 of future possibly prominent politicians at one day.
They don't want successful model such as Norway. Country with good welfare should have problems like Portugal, Italy, Greece, Spain. Thus spreading new world order which they prefer.



posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 09:38 AM
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Have you guys read his manifest... his 1500 pages long book?
In this book he explains everything.
He sended the book to allot of politicians an hour befor he started blowing things up.

It seems his been planing this a long time. and he seems to see himself as a Knigts Templar.




3.23 The cruel nature of our operations


“We do not want to do this, but we are left no choice.”


The 3-phase-process of destroying and replacing the current cultural Marxist/ multiculturalist regimes of Western Europe will not be easy or painless. Keep in mind that these regimes we are fighting have and are still committing genocide against the indigenous peoples of Europe by exposing them to more than 25 million Muslims. They have indirectly killed more than 15 000 Europeans, raped more than 500 000 European women, robbed and terrorised more than 4,5 million Europeans, fired more than 37 000 cultural conservatives from their jobs and incarcerated more than 150 000 brothers and sisters for opposing their policies.

As a Justiciar Knight you are operating as a jury, judge and executioner on behalf of all free Europeans. Never forget that it is not only your right to act against the tyranny of the cultural Marxist/multiculturalist elites of Europe, it is your duty to do so.

There are situations in which cruelty is necessary, and refusing to apply necessary cruelty is a betrayal of the people whom you wish to protect.


The preferred method is to attack in a violent and deceptive form (shock attack), usually with limited forces (1-2 individuals).


Once you decide to strike, it is better to kill too many than not enough, or you risk reducing the desired ideological impact of the strike. Explain what you have done (in an announcement distributed prior to operation) and make certain that everyone understands that we, the free peoples of Europe, are going to strike again and again. Do not apologise, make excuses or express regret for you are acting in self-defence or in a preemptive manner. In many ways, morality has lost its meaning in our struggle. The question of good and evil is reduced to one simple choice. For every free patriotic European, only one choice remains: Survive or perish. Some innocent will die in our operations as they are simply at the wrong place at the wrong time. Get used the idea. The needs of the many will always surpass the needs of the few.


edit: Her is a working link to his book "2083 - A European Declaration of Independence"
www.2shared.com...
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posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 09:42 AM
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You guys should really see his manifesto and video that was posted just before the attacks.

He wrote in detail what he did each day prior to the attack. How he made the bomb, how he acquired the guns. Everything is there, this man acted alone and has been preparing for this for a few years. His last entry was a few hours before the attack, all was planed.

Everything makes sense if you read that.

Also there is no grand conspiracy here, this was his own work, he had his own motivation, etc.

What I can't understand is what pushed him so far to do it, he was a rich, well educated person that did not seem to have any serious problems except hate towards immigrants that are "destroying" his country and Europe. He is against the Islmification of Europe and there is real possibility that in 50 years from now Europe will become a major Islamic centre.

And to be perfectly honest when I took a plane to Norway I was surprised by the number of immigrants with Norwegian passports. They were mostly Muslims/Arabs. One of them I think had 7 young children. I was amazed. Now I have nothing against immigrants or people but I can see where this hate can come from.

If a nation of tall blond people is flooded with such immigrants you can be sure to expect some resistance, even more when due to natality rates the native population is bound to become a minority soon. Norway has only 4 mil people. It does not take long to notice the effect of migration.

There is nothing to excuse his acts, but one has to see the source of such evil. He provided all this in his manifesto. Get yourself informed.



posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 09:42 AM
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This is from the diary in the end of the book


First coming costume party this autumn, dress up as a police officer. Arrive with insignias:-) Will be
awesome as people will be very astonished:-)
Side note; imagine if law enforcement would visit me the next days. They would probably get the
wrong idea and think I was a terrorist, lol )





posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 09:43 AM
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john, if this manifesto is indeed written by this guy,(i'm sure around here it is already a msm plant, lol) it looks like he did indeed want to make his trial a show and a trial of multi culturalism , which is why he gave himself up and didn't shoot himself or resist arrest. I'm sure around here he will never be seen as the "lone gunman" but I find it fitting that a lot of serial killers tracked down by profiliers are "middle aged white men", which he basically is. these comments are chilling to say the least




"The manifesto speculates about would happen if the author were to survive "a successful mission and live to stand a multiculturalist trial."

"When I wake up at the hospital, after surviving the gunshot wounds inflicted me, I realize at least for me personally, I will be waking up to a world of #, a living nightmare," the author wrote.

"Not only will all my friends and family detest me and call me a monster; the united global multiculturalist media will have their hands full figuring out multiple ways to character assassinate, vilify and demonize."

Breivik was taken into custody on Utoya island by police, authorities have said.

The manifesto includes photos that appear to match those of the suspect, some of which had been posted on his Facebook page and several never-before-seen images of the same man. The author leaves clues about his family and background, and also indicates that English is his "secondary language."

The document is titled "2083: A European Declaration of Independence," a date that the author later explains is the year he believes an European civil war will end with the execution of cultural Marxists and the deportation of Muslims.

This "civil war" would come in three phases, he predicts. The first runs through 2030 and includes "open source warfare, military shock attacks by clandestine cell systems (and) further consolidation of conservative forces."

Between 2030 and 2070, he calls for "more advanced forms of resistance groups (and the) preparation of pan-European coup d'etats."

The final stage features the deposition of Europe's leaders and "implementation of a cultural conservative political agenda."




posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 10:16 AM
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Originally posted by Pericle
You guys should really see his manifesto and video that was posted just before the attacks.

He wrote in detail what he did each day prior to the attack. How he made the bomb, how he acquired the guns. Everything is there, this man acted alone and has been preparing for this for a few years. His last entry was a few hours before the attack, all was planed.

Everything makes sense if you read that.

Also there is no grand conspiracy here, this was his own work, he had his own motivation, etc.

What I can't understand is what pushed him so far to do it, he was a rich, well educated person that did not seem to have any serious problems except hate towards immigrants that are "destroying" his country and Europe. He is against the Islmification of Europe and there is real possibility that in 50 years from now Europe will become a major Islamic centre.

And to be perfectly honest when I took a plane to Norway I was surprised by the number of immigrants with Norwegian passports. They were mostly Muslims/Arabs. One of them I think had 7 young children. I was amazed. Now I have nothing against immigrants or people but I can see where this hate can come from.

If a nation of tall blond people is flooded with such immigrants you can be sure to expect some resistance, even more when due to natality rates the native population is bound to become a minority soon. Norway has only 4 mil people. It does not take long to notice the effect of migration.

There is nothing to excuse his acts, but one has to see the source of such evil. He provided all this in his manifesto. Get yourself informed.


Good comment. star



posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 10:21 AM
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Perhaps he has friends in high places...


[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/9eafafeb4501.jpg[/atsimg]

This was included in his 1500 page manifesto.



posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 10:29 AM
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That still does not make any difference because he was self-motivated. The issue around which he build this attack is a valid concern for Europe IMO. How long before Europe is no longer Europe? Fundamentalism will only increase in Europe due to the clash between the native cultures and the imported ones, in this case Islam, which is also very different from what Europe is used to.

This guy went to the extreme. He attacked his own people, because he blames them for letting this happen.

Change is the only constant in this world, Europe might become an Islamic continent, I don't really mind that at the moment, but I am sure many people will have a great issues with this the more it intensifies.

I think this attack in Norway reflects a very dramatic change that is currently happening and asks a question about the future of Europe.



posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 10:35 AM
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Yes syrinx. It is inconceivable for a clandestine agency to have a special department, specialized in planting manufactured "evidence". CIA, MI6, Mossad are completely alien to such trickery. They have never sampled an entire profile around an agent or asset just to give him a "solid" identity, and yes syrinx, ppl and newspapers have never bought any such plants with hook line and sinker. Their journalists are cunning little geniouses who can see through such cheap illusions.

Sorry ol´ mate but I think all my postings have made me a bit tired and cranky and I need some sarcastic venting. My deepest apologies

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posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 10:44 AM
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Originally posted by Pericle
reply to post by donatellanator
 


That still does not make any difference because he was self-motivated. The issue around which he build this attack is a valid concern for Europe IMO. How long before Europe is no longer Europe? Fundamentalism will only increase in Europe due to the clash between the native cultures and the imported ones, in this case Islam, which is also very different from what Europe is used to.

This guy went to the extreme. He attacked his own people, because he blames them for letting this happen.

Change is the only constant in this world, Europe might become an Islamic continent, I don't really mind that at the moment, but I am sure many people will have a great issues with this the more it intensifies.

I think this attack in Norway reflects a very dramatic change that is currently happening and asks a question about the future of Europe.


I live in Europe and I can say with all certainty that Europe and certainly the northern parts will never become Islamic. There will be no Sharia law here either. People won't take it. We are very open to other cultures, us being part of the multi cultural project, but we have common moral standards. Sharia law is barbaric to us and it simply won't happen. This Islamic threat is terribly overrated if you ask me.
We are a pretty strong collective when it comes to woman rights, human rights, equality, freedom and gay-rights. I mean gay's can marry here in the Netherlands. We are pretty evolved in that sense. There won't be any degradation of that sort, rather a strong blow black against anything that tries to destroy that. And we will win, simply because we are stronger.
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posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 11:13 AM
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The future of Europe!!!
A drama happen involving a lone man or one more with too many hours spend in the net trying to look like, feel like , and perhaps act like some medieval icon.
A drama that shame the human identity.
There is no such things as clash of society or war of culture in Europe. The media let you believe it.

Europe is so much in trouble with money that when something like this drama occur people just assume that the problem of Europe is immigration. Like ostrich .
The " Synarchy" is still a live in Europe,they brought you WW1 and WW2 and later emerge as " la technocratie".



posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 11:33 AM
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He idolised the Templars. A lot theory has gone into how the Masons are modern day Templars ... he has admitted to getting costumes so I theorise that this is just that ... a costume to make himself feel like he is part of a group.



posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 11:53 AM
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It did'nt take 2 hours... The police has said today that it took about an hour to get the Delta Force up there, and get a propper boat and whatever.. So about an hour then.. Thats way to slow reaction time if you ask me.. But u know, little Norway aint used to these kinds of kiling rampages.. So I guess this is a sad wake up call for us...



posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 11:54 AM
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Originally posted by AllIsOne
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How in the world could the gunman go unchallenged for 2 hrs? Everybody has a cell phone to make calls. Did it take the Norwegian police two hours to respond?



A bomb went off shortly before the shootings begun, they had their hands full.

Plus, if you did not read where the shooting was located, it was 40 kilometers off the shore from Oslo.
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posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 12:05 PM
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I am going to read part of the manifesto now.

The manifesto can be found here: multimedia.ekstrabladet.dk...

It is in English, so therefore everybody can venture into his world.



posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 12:13 PM
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I just read the boat had a leak?

Gosh you can't make this stuff up.

in.reuters.com...



posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 12:57 PM
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-He had a lot of ammo left!!

This is translated from my local newspaper; oa.no:


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Deputy Police Chief Roger Andresen and chief of staff John Fredriksen, the Oslo police held a press conference Saturday morning and explained the developments in the terror case.
- Had a lot of ammunition left

The accused Anders Behring Breivik had a significant amount of ammunition on him when he was arrested Friday at 18.27, according to police.

Chief of Staff John Fredriksen, the Oslo police, said at a news conference Sunday evening that the emergency squad arrived Utøya at 18.25. Behring Breivik was arrested two minutes later.

Significant amount

- He had a considerable amount of ammunition on him. Police response thus prevented further killing action, says Fuller.

According to Acting Police Chief Sveinung Sponheim had arrested "many shots" again, and there was ammunition for both weapons Breivik will be used during the shooting of Utøya.

Sponheim would not disclose how much ammunition the accused had left.
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posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 01:01 PM
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Originally posted by grapeian
I am going to read part of the manifesto now.

The manifesto can be found here: multimedia.ekstrabladet.dk...

It is in English, so therefore everybody can venture into his world.


You may already know this but apparently his manifesto was plagiarized



From Una-bomb's Manifesto:

One of the most Wide spread manifestations of the craziness of our world is leftism, so a discussion of the psychology of leftism Can serve as an introduction to the discussion of the problems of modern society in general.

But what is leftism? Hum the first half of the 20th century leftism could have been practically Identified with Socialism. Today the movement is fragmented and it is not clear WHO Can pray properly called a leftist.

When we speak of leftist in this article we garden in mind Mainly Socialists, Collectivist, "politically correct" types, feminists, gay and disability Activists, Animal Rights Activists and the like. But not everyone Who is associate with one of These movements is a leftist.

What we are Trying to get that in discussing leftism is not so much a movement or an Ideology as a psychological type, or Rather a collection of related types. THUS, what we mean by "leftism" will emerge more Clearly in the course of our discussion of leftist psychology

from Anders Behring Breivik's Manifesto:

One of the most wide spread manifestations of the craziness of our world is Multiculturalism, so a discussion of the psychology of multiculturalists Can serve as an introduction to the discussion of the problems of Western Europe in general.

But what is Multiculturalism or Cultural Communism? The movement is fragmented and it is not clear WHO Can pray properly called a cultural Marxist.

When we speak of cultural Marxists in this article we garden in mind Mainly Individuals WHO support Multiculturalism; Socialists, Collectivist, "politically correct" types, feminists, gay and disability Activists, Animal Rights Activists, Environmentalist, etc. But not everyone Who is associate with One of These movements support Multiculturalism.

What we are Trying to get that in discussing cultural Marxists is not so much a movement or an Ideology as a psychological type, or Rather a collection of related types

- this is very interesting, says violence researcher Ragnhild Bjørnebekk the Police Academy.


www.document.no...



posted on Jul, 24 2011 @ 01:02 PM
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Was he shot?



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