Is Ouija board dangerous?

Originally posted by EnigmaticDill
reply to post by SaturnFX

 

Your subconcious doesnt do this.


And the evil spirit answered and said, Jesus I know, and Paul I know; but who are ye?

Not ever having seen any of them ^

And the man in whom the evil spirit was leaped on them, and overcame them, and prevailed against them, so that they fled out of that house naked and wounded.

The bible was created by several superstitious men whom believed evil spirits were everywhere...science has since shown that the thunder is not demons roaring, or a famine/flood is not about pleasing or angering gods.

Your silly superstition is what is counted on by companys that sell ouija boards and other stuff...figure if there are suckers that believe in that, they will believe in anything...even "channeling" their subconscious.

reply to post by EnigmaticDill


EnigmaticDill

Seriously you should chill with the scripted scrip-tor. Getting pretty old... there is nothing that you have copied and pasted, or typed from your washed out mind that I have not already read, or have been preached to over and over.

Have you ever heard the phrase... HELL is repetition?

Seems to me you need to find a holy rolling forum elsewhere, unless you have something to add, or are wanting more attention.

Does this Ring a bell... "But he shall say, I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity." That's god talking to you!


And that is the lord thy god speaking to the holy rolling fools who think repeating a phrase that has been mangled throughout time to be correct.

So have fun with your Christmas, and Easter... practicing fertility rituals mocked by the birth and death of a deity I am sure existed, but hyped up beyond recognition. Thank the pope while you're at it, all all his predecessors... for they called for the rape and pillaging of many lands that still result in war today.

You need to read more than just one book, the bible has clearly been tampered with... Too bad they didn't figure out the tamper seal on bottles til the 70's/80's or we might not have this repeating problem.

I suggest you read some other books, and get over this recycled god.

Originally posted by gsmith524
The ouija board itself is not dangerous, it's the act of letting in a spirit itself which is dangerous. You don't need an ouija board to do it, you can bring it on by just a thought..it's the intention which matters.

I heard the holy bible channels spirits...

They should be banned...side effects are people suddenly quoteing nonstop passages, believing in deitys, and a denial of scientific evidence...

Imagine...a book that literally causes insanity if read and believed.
Far more dangerous than a ouija board in my opinion.

reply to post by phishyblankwaters


Wow that is SO not true!! the Ouija board will move itself, I have experienced it more than once and I'd say after messing with it, Demonic entities are real. Not to mention what happened to my mothers sister. Books flying off the shelf's when my family was at dinner, prescription glasses cracking, and she died. No BS.... Don't play with it.

Anyone who is claiming that a Ouija Board opens portals to allow spirits in, please explain how this works. Explain to me how a board made by Mattel or homemade that has letters on it and a small movable piece can conjure up demonic forces. Can the game of Life also conjure up demons if you ask a spirit to help you win? Can a game of Tic-Tac-Toe open a portal to the spirit world if I ask a spirit to show me the correct places to put my X?

What if I'm shooting a basketball and I say, "If I hit the next shot "so and so" will be my girlfriend." Will that conjure up a demon?

Originally posted by SSDDay
reply to post by phishyblankwaters

 

Wow that is SO not true!! the Ouija board will move itself, I have experienced it more than once and I'd say after messing with it, Demonic entities are real. Not to mention what happened to my mothers sister. Books flying off the shelf's when my family was at dinner, prescription glasses cracking, and she died. No BS.... Don't play with it.

Video or it didn't happen


-tired of people claiming extraordinary stuff that never has proof-

So ya, now on with just flat out calling people liars when they meet 2 requirements:

1) claiming extraordinary stuff
2) instructing people on what to do or how to act because of their claim.

Just to claim stuff happened to you is one thing...fine, whatever...but you instructed someone based on your extraordinary claim...that crosses the line from witness ot prophet

A ouija board and a spirit board are not exactly the same thing. Most peoples opinions on spirit boards are a direct reflection of their opinion on the existence of spirits themselves. I imagine most of the naysayers probably don't believe in spirits or ghosts and what not. If my statement is errant I offer my apologies.

Spirit boards to my knowledge have been around since they became common practice in CHina around 1100 CE. THe oujia board tm has been debunked numerous times by the scientific community who naturally went into their experiments with the intent to prove it simply a toy.

I have seen spirit boards work in controlled conditions. It met my criteria anyway. A created board with letters reoriented so the participants would have no knowledge of their location prior to the experiment. The 2 people handling the planchette were blindfolded and earmuffed. The questions were asked by a 3rd party who had never encountered the 2 planchette operators before. The letters and statements were logged by 3 separate individuals who did not know anyone in the room and were also muffed as to not hear the questions. I remained to document the occurrence without any restrictions.

The results of the experiment, the answers and relevance to the questions were later researched and identified. we ran 10 groups in the study. 5 groups tested above average for psychic ability, 5 groups tested as the norm. Out of the 10 groups the 5 non psychics tested in the ballpark of 50% on yes, no true, false questions and minimal relevance on those more complex questions. 3 of the "psychic groups" tested in the 75-90% range on the 50/50 questions. On the more complex questions they tested significantly higher, above 50% on all accounts.

The final group was extremely interesting. On the yes no true false questions they scored 19 out of 20. On the more complex questions their accuracy was absolutely spectacular. It defied comprehension and actually led to a previously unknown grave site where a mixed race child had been murdered approximately 84 years before.

I am an extreme skeptic when dealing with the paranormal, much of what I deal with has to do with psychological consults on cases many attributed to mental illness. I've worked with the Catholic Church on numerous occasions as well. I've also been a paranormal investigator for a couple decades. Just to give you an idea how far my skepticism runs, EVP's are garbage, all of them. Any investigation of a paranormal site that you've seen on tv is garbage. You have to deal with a controlled environment. Trying to use thermometers and EMF detectors to identify where a spirit is, well it's tripe as well. How are you able to identify something with instruments that measure quantifiable phenomenon when you can't quantify the composition of a spirit? Everything you see on tv is crap for ratings.

My 10th case with the spirit board was beyond reproach in my eyes. If you weren't present it's easy to be skeptical or doubt the credibility of my claim. But much like the 2 exorcisms I worked with in Kenya, I saw things that were inexplicable via existing science. But why did these particular circumstances work if the Ouija is garbage> I haave a theory.

THe 5 nonpsychics accomplished nothing outside of the the norm outside of the standard deviation of +/- 7% because the board itself has no power or connection to anything.

The other 4 psychic groups had marginal abilities which allowed them to use the board as a focal point to either contact a spirit, pick up residual energy from the property or access some other phenomenon.

The final group, the superior psychics used the board as a focal point to access a spiritual connection and access information which was not possible for them to have prior knowledge of.

In short I believe the board itself has no power than a piano. Anyone can sit down and make noise but few can pull up the bench and create a symphony. WHo would make better use of a guitar, you or Eddie Van Halen, Same thing with the board.

It may be more believable if you asked a question and the movable piece moved itself. Don't you think it's kind of strange that you have to have your fingers on the movable piece? Are spirits too lazy to do it themselves?

Oh, and to the guy who said that reincarnation can't be real because your soul would have too many bodies to be placed back into at judgment, what happens to siamese twins, like the girls who have a body and two heads? Do their souls both go back into their siamese body? Or does god take an exception to those?

Originally posted by Hydroman
Anyone who is claiming that a Ouija Board opens portals to allow spirits in, please explain how this works. Explain to me how a board made by Mattel or homemade that has letters on it and a small movable piece can conger up demonic forces. Can the game of Life also conger up demons if you ask a spirit to help you win? Can a game of Tic-Tac-Toe open a portal to the spirit world if I ask a spirit to show me the correct places to put my X?

What if I'm shooting a basketball and I say, "If I hit the next shot "so and so" will be my girlfriend." Will that conger up a demon?

First off, Conjure..sorry, but when a misspelled word appears multiple time, it hits that pet peeve thing. (not that I am a great speller mind you, but meh, hypocracy rocks)

Now, I think the concept behind it is "intent"..ceremonial style "magick" that is not so much about things used but rather the mindset and opening of yourself..or your energy in which creates the field.

Not that I believe in this, but the concept itself isn't about specific toys or brand names...a pen is just ink and plastic (or metal) but the energy behind it can create things that can start wars or make people fall in love sort of thing.

reply to post by SaturnFX


Hello sir,
Happened about 30 years ago.... No video, tool.

reply to post by siolence


You underestimate God. The Living God. Not your vain imaginings. I seen first hand what is really going on, and its a prime example of why you bring about the kind of ignorant hate that you yourself are projecting at me, even though i've done nothing to provoke it besides what would be coming from your self condemnation.

You need to re evaulate your stance on what you think this reality is all about. Sure I could tell you my experience and how I know it to be true, but then again I would just be regurgitating words from a fairy tale book, instead of a doctrine of truth by the people that witnessed it, their testimony of the Living God. Who's Son in the flesh sits at the right hand, and I can attest to.

reply to post by SaturnFX


Who records video at a dinner table anyway??? Knock it off, why is proof always mandatory?? Take it with a grain of salt.. My family knows what happened

Originally posted by SaturnFX

First off, Conjure..sorry, but when a misspelled word appears multiple time, it hits that pet peeve thing. (not that I am a great speller mind you, but meh, hypocracy rocks)

Hah, I use Firefox and it showed that conger was a correct spelling so I went with it, lol. By the way, it also shows that "hypocracy" isn't spelled correctly.

reply to post by DrJay1975


Source please.
Would like to read the detailed paper on this...sounds fascinating.

As far as "ghosts" are concerned...well, I believe in something, as I have had an experience I cannot debunk, however, to say what that is, is just speculation..it is something yet to be explained.. (so, unexplained phenomona I guess is the best description, however "ghost" seems to best fit it verses say, dragons or unicorns)

Originally posted by Hydroman

Originally posted by SaturnFX

First off, Conjure..sorry, but when a misspelled word appears multiple time, it hits that pet peeve thing. (not that I am a great speller mind you, but meh, hypocracy rocks)

Hah, I use Firefox and it showed that conger was a correct spelling so I went with it, lol. By the way, it also shows that "hypocracy" isn't spelled correctly.

edit on 8-7-2011 by Hydroman because: (no reason given)

How about Irony?

Originally posted by SSDDay
reply to post by SaturnFX

 

Who records video at a dinner table anyway??? Knock it off, why is proof always mandatory?? Take it with a grain of salt.. My family knows what happened

Proof is not mandatory so long as someone doesn't then become a preacher about their "experiences" in my opinion.

If you believe it worked...video it and do it again...lets get some evidence flowing on this subject verses "I used it, dishes flew around, didn't video it, dont use it" stuff.

Why on ATS if your not bothered about getting truth out? You appearantly are in a position to shed some light on this according to your claims...why would you deny this to the world?

Yet you seem quite happy to start telling people what to do or not to do based on your alleged experiences

Originally posted by SaturnFX
How about Irony?

Yes. Yes that is spelled quite nicely.

Playing with demon spirit is soooo asianic! We play with demon trance all the time, YES it is dangerous!. You will burn in hell if you play that follish game!. And your soul will suffer by the demons you summon by that board. Stop! Noooooo

reply to post by humphreysjim


The only coward around here sir is you. If you want proof of Ouija boards summoning spirits then do it yourself!

I would advise against it though, Jesus said not to mess with that stuff.

Originally posted by tengkorak
Playing with demon spirit is soooo asianic! We play with demon trance all the time, YES it is dangerous!. You will burn in hell if you play that follish game!. And your soul will suffer by the demons you summon by that board. Stop! Noooooo

lol

Got any evidence to back up your claim?


See folks, you can say this about anything:
I used to be a republican, then I was meditating on Nixon one night and demons jumped out...I seen the republicans are actually demons and when you vote for them, you open a portal to hell.
Never vote republican because I know first hand that they are demons.

Now, replace the clear agenda being pushed here from political to religious...

Its bogus...either show evidence, or stop demanding to know something and your words should be followed based on what you claim.

grrr

(this was not some partisan rant, it was a stab at the clear religious agenda)

To users of Ouija Boards:
I still claim its mostly a subconscious trick, however, if you get something out of it that makes you a more positive person, then I say go for it....if you get something negative out of it, well, don't use it, or better yet, ask yourself why you "attract negative energy"...you might find out that you yourself are holding something negative inside of you to begin with that needs to be addressed...be it depression, or anger, etc...

And if this board helps you identify something about yourself that could use some attention and help, then I say great.
Ignore the religious kooks that demand you be afraid of your own shadow...unless they offer solid evidence, then they are either speaking with an agenda, or just hysterical