The Palestinian Propaganda, and the Truth of how Israelies BELONG in Israel.

reply to post by TheWalkingFox


Israel is no different to many other nations that still have compulsary military service:

ask.metafilter.com...

So your silly little comment in regards to Israel's IDF is just that!!!

Israel is surrounded by approx 270 million Arabs who want them wiped off the face of the planet, tried 5 times and got no where but will try again because they are stupid people. Personally, I think a peace treaty with Palestinian Christians has a much greater chance of being more viable next to Israel rather than a 6th new Islamic Arab border next to Israel.

The Arab Christians in sourrounding nations have been on the receiving of shocking exterminations by their Muslim brothers for years and as each week passes, it gets worse for them.

Originally posted by bluemirage5
reply to post by hdutton

 

80% of Jordanians are indeed Palestinian Arabs. The reason why I call them Palestinian Arabs is before 1948 both Jews and Arabs were deemed "Palestinian" in the eyes of the world until Israel was re-established.

I ask you to pardon any misunderstanding which I may have drawn from you statement for the "Palestinians to go back to Jordan."

If 80% of Jordanians are Palestinian , then should you not be agreeing that the Palestinians are "at home" where they now live.

This situation just seems to get more and more convaluted day by day.

reply to post by hdutton


Jordan was once part of greater Israel and relatively still a newly created nation. The Jordanians are quite progressive and I must admit many parts of Jordan with it's well established cities and towns are quite beautiful, Amman is similar to Jerusalem (great shopping there too). Although on the outskirts of some much smaller towns, they are somewhat similar to Gaza and very Islamic in mentality however Amman is alot more progressive and liberal; good education system in place and health care is not bad.

Jordan is a great place and definately an option......although 80% of Jordanians are Palestinian Arabs, the Jordanians don't want the Palestinians from Israel in to Jordan due to many of them being high risk and troublesome especially those from Gaza.

Jordan should be an option put on the table. It's a win win for both sides.

reply to post by bluemirage5


Got a question for you, Just why are there 270 million Arabs who want them wiped off the face of the planet?
It seems there are more than arabs, why do you think this is so?
Is it israels wealth?
No, as they recieve billions from the US every year, now think hard here.
Remember the USS Liberty!

The Jews will be kicked out of that part of the world eventually just like they have been kicked out of every other place for thousands of years. Mostly because they think they are superior. One day they will learn to join the rest of the world and chill out.

reply to post by ElectricUniverse


I was trying to make a point that the Israelis also indoctrinate and brainwash their children with bullsh!t and hate. I'm starting to think that you were most probably nurtured by some of those wonderful children's books.

You said in your opening post that 'both sides have committed atrocities, but this post is to show the truth about the Palestinian authority and the Palestinian terrorists'... Don't you think that your argument would look less biased and hateful if you showed us members the truth about the atrocities the Israelis have committed... or doesn't that suit your cause?

One of the worst fallouts of the 60’s was this idiotic belief system of “moral equivalency” where there is almost a blindness of cause and effect. The Jews did not do anything to bring about their fate in Germany. They were persecuted due to their race and religion. They did not attack the German’s, and they did not have munitions coming in from outside forces to fight against the State.

The Palestinians, on the other hand, decided to be used as pawns, blow themselves up in coffee shops, and celebrate killing their kids. Cause, hey, having a sex orgy in heaven is what it is all about (very deep philosophical thought).

Any rational nation would have behaved just as the Israelis have based on similar circumstances. We can argue until the end of time on the legitimacy of Israel, but it is what it is. Just as the US is what is it, and Canada is what it is etc ect ect. Justifying violence, killing and hate is not right.

Being surrounded by enemies who use you as an excuse for their own failures and atrocities against their own people, brings with it a certain sense of defensiveness that the Israelis have been forced to deal with.

reply to post by Ultraman2011


Um I think you are mistaken. The Jews did declare a worldwide boycott on Germany before any German boycott ever happened and way before they were put in camps. Much to the dislike of the Jews actually living in Germany at the time, I'm sure.

www.wintersonnenwende.com...

It seems to me that if there indeed is "Palestinian Propaganda", that it would be about as powerful as the Palestinians themselves.
Not very.
Whom are those powerful media personalities that are dispensing this "Palestinian Propaganda"? I understand that Jewish interests are in control of the vast majority of western media, so, how are these people without a country getting their word out?

Hindenburg: You seem to get too much information from youtube. The secret society called the Muslim Brotherhood is more of a threat than Freemasons or whatever other secret society you're talking about. You can say Israel wants to grow and control half the Mid-East/etc/etc. . . but the M B wants the whole world.

g146541: "68 percent of Palestinian Muslim respondents said suicide bombings against civilians were justifiable “to defend Islam from its enemies." from: www.cnsnews.com... for example. . . and like i mentioned, why aren't Iraqi-Christians whose families are slaughtered and/or kicked out of their homes left with nothing / etc . . why aren't they also suicide-bombing?

to others: genetic testing done (i'll come back with the link, but..) shows that Jordanians & Palestinians are NOT related. Also, Jordan as I've mentioned does not want Palestinians in their country. No one really likes them in that area of the world, but many of the radical Muslims support Palestine because of a common enemy: Jews.

reply to post by g146541


I am pretty certain I showed videos of how Palestinian children are being brainwashed and indoctrinated into becoming suicide bombers... So yes, there is training, brainwashing and indoctrination since childhood for Palestinian children to become suicide bombers, you trying to claim the contrary in the face of evidence which completely destroys your argument is mind blowing.

But hey, i guess as long as you keep your eyes closed to evidence, cover your hears and yell "nanananana" it seems to be alright in your mind... More power to you i guess...

Originally posted by sonnny1

Right.............

So WHERE ARE THE ISRAELI ATROCITY VIDEOS TO COMPARE? The newspaper articles of Israeli atrocity's? I looked twice,three times,but alas,I didnt see ANY in your propaganda piece. So you state that both sides,committed atrocity's,but only post the "Palestinian terrorists" videos,news articles? How ISNT this one sided ?

How could the average joe,who doesnt know ANYTHING about this,NOT see this as being one sided? God forbid you use a Palestinian source,because its ALL "terrorist" propaganda,as your OP piece states.

We see EVERY FREAKING DAY anti-israeli threads pop up on these forums... EVERY FREAKEN DAY, yet when a member tries to bring up the other side people like you jump at us for not doing what the COUNTLESS of anti-Israeli threads in these forums do in here every day?... Not to mention that many of those threads have nothing but lies, and exagerations...

And then you want to talk about bias?...

Originally posted by Stewie
It seems to me that if there indeed is "Palestinian Propaganda", that it would be about as powerful as the Palestinians themselves.
Not very.
Whom are those powerful media personalities that are dispensing this "Palestinian Propaganda"? I understand that Jewish interests are in control of the vast majority of western media, so, how are these people without a country getting their word out?

From the Palestinian authority, Hamas, Hezbollah, other terrorist Islamic groups, and several other Islamic extremist countries alongside the Islamic extremist multimillionaires, and multibillionaires. That's what keeps the indoctrination machine going, and I am VERY CERTAIN that we have at least some Palestinian propaganda posters in these forums.

Didn't you know that for example there are also several Islamic extremist training camps in the U.S.? Who do you think pays for those camps, and who buys the land?

Similar camps can be found throughout the world.

Originally posted by JudasIscariot

I was trying to make a point that the Israelis also indoctrinate and brainwash their children with bullsh!t and hate. I'm starting to think that you were most probably nurtured by some of those wonderful children's books.
....

OH wow, then I guess you must be part of the Islamic extremist network right?... It seems you have been nurtured by the Islamic extremist propaganda since birth...

First of all I am Cuban-American, was born in Cuba, second of all I am not Jewish... Troll around much?...

Originally posted by ElectricUniverse

Originally posted by sonnny1

Right.............

So WHERE ARE THE ISRAELI ATROCITY VIDEOS TO COMPARE? The newspaper articles of Israeli atrocity's? I looked twice,three times,but alas,I didnt see ANY in your propaganda piece. So you state that both sides,committed atrocity's,but only post the "Palestinian terrorists" videos,news articles? How ISNT this one sided ?

How could the average joe,who doesnt know ANYTHING about this,NOT see this as being one sided? God forbid you use a Palestinian source,because its ALL "terrorist" propaganda,as your OP piece states.

We see EVERY FREAKING DAY anti-israeli threads pop up on these forums... EVERY FREAKEN DAY, yet when a member tries to bring up the other side people like you jump at us for not doing what the COUNTLESS of anti-Israeli threads in these forums do in here every day?... Not to mention that many of those threads have nothing but lies, and exagerations...

And then you want to talk about bias?...

edit on 25-5-2011 by ElectricUniverse because: (no reason given)

Jumping at us? Is there an agenda here? Who is us? I told you ,I am an outsider here,and lets be honest. Both of these peoples hate each other.Your take in this is biased,and full of desperation. Is this why you made this thread? Because of ALL the anti Israeli threads out there? Because you feel the need to hate? The need to show why they are so much below you? Don't sugarcoat it,with propaganda. Just state your sick and tired of the anti Israeli threads,and you dislike/hate Palestinians. Hate away! But dont come claiming both sides commit atrocities,and only show ONE side.


“Hate is too great a burden to bear. It injures the hater more than it injures the hated.”~ Coretta Scott King

reply to post by ElectricUniverse


Why not quote my entire post and reply to all of it, instead of labelling me as troll?

reply to post by JudasIscariot


Maybe its because she is cherry-picking her argument,and blinded by propaganda. Both sides are at fault. Both sides commit atrocities. OP shows only the Palestinian terrorists. Biased anyone? Just look at what she said.Shes sick of Anti-Israeli threads.The whole "us" thing. After she posted that,I knew that there was an agenda to the madness. How about giving some points on how to stop the madness? Now that would be a thread,worthy of Stars and Flags.

reply to post by ElectricUniverse

First of all I am Cuban-American, was born in Cuba, second of all I am not Jewish... Troll around much?...

So why are you pushing such a bias Israeli point of view..
Did Mossad advertise for internet users??
How's the pay and conditions?

I'm just curious, how many pro-Israeli supporters or defenders of Israels foregin policy on these forums want to truly see a fair and true peace, where both the Palestinians and Iraeli's share the land they are entitled to, live side by side together in harmony, with the right to self-determination fulfilled and each people have their own state (two state solution)?

Originally posted by bluemirage5
reply to post by hdutton

 

Jordan was once part of greater Israel and relatively still a newly created nation. The Jordanians are quite progressive and I must admit many parts of Jordan with it's well established cities and towns are quite beautiful, Amman is similar to Jerusalem (great shopping there too). Although on the outskirts of some much smaller towns, they are somewhat similar to Gaza and very Islamic in mentality however Amman is alot more progressive and liberal; good education system in place and health care is not bad.

Jordan is a great place and definately an option......although 80% of Jordanians are Palestinian Arabs, the Jordanians don't want the Palestinians from Israel in to Jordan due to many of them being high risk and troublesome especially those from Gaza.

Jordan should be an option put on the table. It's a win win for both sides.

Wow the stupidity you reverbarate here daily is becoming more and more unbeliavable.

It is not a win for both sides: Jordan has to take in a multitude of refugee's and millions of Palestinians loose their homes while Israel continues to expand it's territory. Zionism is trully a disease.