The Palestinian Propaganda, and the Truth of how Israelies BELONG in Israel.

so your post insinuates the world should start to side with the same government that has been responsible for numerous illegal invasions, incursions and use of biological weapons and thats just in the past ten years! and because radicals have formed to oppose the violence and war being waged on their people it IS the people being lined up for blame? your post insinuates you also believe terrorists are going to get you one day on your local commute. and wile members of hamas may be extreme we all should remember they were driven to this by someone or some group, not because they are "evil" or "muslim" or because they hate "jews", seriously load your well structured fear mongering articles to sorcha faals website please!

reply to post by Zmurfix


Three soldiers; wow, thats alot.

How many Palestinians have used kids as human shields?

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Omg I just picked three examples. There are at least tens of these articles on haaretz.

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Note - I'm only posting this to keep a balance here, so bear "raaar" with me.

wow...the "palestinian propaganda"...tut tut...

ok firstly, cut the victim act, it puts people off your cause.

second, isrealis DO belong in isreal yes.....but not foreigners claiming they are isreali because they are jewish.

third, i think they should play theyr cards now...accept that some people cant be worked with....and work with the ones that can be.isreal should just work with egypt and turkey and everything should pan out nicely...a new singapore of the med.

honestly bro...fatah and hamas have merged this week.....

i dont understand why you cant make concessions, your on their land afterall....its not weak to do the right thing...its smart!...you got your foot in the door, take what you have, dont get greedy...like me playing roullette yesterday...got greedy and lost it all.

reply to post by confreak


Where's my little tiny violin?

In one of the videos is a couple of Kosovo women; in another is a case where a journalist was called out for his hoax video and made to apologise to Israel because a Palestinian boy was not shot by the IDF.

Your videos are a fail

reply to post by confreak


good post
those videos show a lot of truth

most people do not know that we are being lied to from all sides on that story so they are quick to pick a side.

Originally posted by bluemirage5
reply to post by confreak

 

Where's my little tiny violin?

Your videos are a fail

this is it here........and how can you ask me my opinion on your cause when you say things like that...tut tut...the hate in some people is ridiculus....i actually feel sick

Originally posted by bluemirage5
reply to post by Zmurfix

 

Three soldiers; wow, thats alot.

How many Palestinians have used kids as human shields?

During the war with Lebanon in 2006, Israel placed its artillery within the civilian areas of Biet Hillel, Kiryat Shmona, and other towns. Many missile emplacements were put into Arab towns such as Deir al-Asad and Nazareth. Over half of the Israelis killed in the war were Arabs, who were "collateral damage" when Hezbollah targeted these military installations. Israel also has more than a few legitimate military targets within other Arab towns nad neighborhoods - munitions factories, radar towers, airfields, etc.

Whether htey be Jew or Arab or someone else, Israel is using Israelis as human shields. That's in addition to the kids they kidnap to use as bullet-bait when they invade Gaza.

And to answer an earlier question; Israel doesn't send its kids off to be suicide bombers. The suicide bomber is the weapon of desperate people with no options. Israel is not desperate, and it has options. So instead of giving a few of them bomb belts, Israel instead instructs all Israeli children in the notion that they have a right to murder people and take their land, because those people are arabushim cockroaches who would do the same. Then when those children are 18, they are impressed into the Israeli military, put at the border, and shown that randomly killing Palestinians will only give them light treatment, and only if they're caught by western media.

Who needs a few dozen potential suicide bombers, when you have entire generations' worth of terrified and brainwashed kids who know how to fly an apache gunship?

Originally posted by TheWalkingFox
. Over half of the Israelis killed in the war were Arabs, who were "collateral damage"

you remember the english peace activist that got shot by the isrealis.....they actually sent a soldier to prison for it... i thought wow...then the newreader said "an isreali arab soldier"...haha, so they mug off any arab jewish isreali....but arnt they the real ones??

I would like to interject one other point which you may or may not have known or even considered.

Of course, it may not make any difference with anyone.

Did you know there are almost as many, or maybe more, Christian churches in gaza as there are mosque.

Yes, a good number of the Palistinian people are Christian.

And to reply to one other comment which I read here. No, the Palistinians can not "go home to Jodan".

If that were the case they would be Jordanian not Palistinian !!!!!

While I am here let me ask this. Do you realize the primary difference in truth and propaganda lies in the root words from which they are derived.

Truth -- True

Propaganda -- Prop

Originally posted by thePharaoh

Originally posted by TheWalkingFox
. Over half of the Israelis killed in the war were Arabs, who were "collateral damage"

you remember the english peace activist that got shot by the isrealis.....they actually sent a soldier to prison for it... i thought wow...then the newreader said "an isreali arab soldier"...haha, so they mug off any arab jewish isreali....but arnt they the real ones??

This is similar to when Baruch Goldstein gunned down 59 people at the Cave of the Patriarchs in Hebron, 1994. He was an Israeli "settler," a follower of the Kach movement, and a member of the IDF.

In the newspapers he was tagged as "an American immigrant to Israel" Which he also was, sure. However I think the rest of the stuff should have borne a little mention.

Also worth mention; Many settlers celebrate Purim by dressing their kids up to look like Goldstein, and sing happy songs about how many Arabs he killed.
BBC source
Ynet source

To Israel's credit, at least, the Kach movement is outlawed, and their credo seems to be pretty abhorrent to the average "Israeli on the street." - Of course, it's not the Israeli on the street that sets policy, but the Israelis in the Knesset.

It doesn't matter what evidence you provide...some people don't care what the real truth is...

The reason why some people don't support Israel (Obama) is very simple. Israel is Gods chosen nation, and those who hate God will also hate Israel.

Also I think its funny that the Arabs excuse for blowing up Israels citizens is that the land belonged to them first...but most people forget that the jews inhabited israel WAY back before the roman empire...soo technically the jews had the land first.

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Can't help but wonder who lived there before Abraham.

Or, would your line of thought just stop at some arbitrary point of your own choosing?

Originally posted by ElectricUniverse
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Except that kids, and young children as well as women are killed because they either become suicide bombers, or are trained to murder as many Jewish people as they can... They DO NOT HAVE THE TRUTH...and if what you are fighting for is to train children to become suicide bombers and teach them nothing but hatred, I hope you get sent to prison and are never released...

how can you say such thing to another person?

you are sick minded I should have realised that when I first read your thread.

Let's just say that Israel actually doesn't belong there, and the land is actually all Palestine. What would "Palestine" be like? I'll tell you: It would be a 3rd world country full of Jew-hating radical-Muslims, and they would still chant and pray for the death of freedom.

Why is it that no other supposedly persecuted group of people in the world reacts so violently as the Palestinians? Some say, "Oh, if you were persecuted, you would fight back!" Where are other examples?

Why don't we hear of ANY other (supposedly) persecuted people of the world suicide-bombing? How many Iraqi or Egyptian Christians suicide bomb? Without ANY hesitation I can say that they're treated much-much worse than Palestinians. To be fair I can mention Muslims who are persecuted too, like the Kurds who fight for independence, but do not target civilians or suicide-bomb themselves.

To me, it doesn't matter who has a legitimate claim to the land of Israel-Palestine. The Palestinians are the barbarians of the world. Even neighboring countries don't want them in their countries. Jordan & Lebanon are fairly civilized countries, and do not want Palestinian barbarians in their land.

What is the solution?

I'm not claiming to have a solution, sorry. I just wanted to mention that the Palestinians are barbarians. Surveys done world-wide show that Palestinians support suicide-bombings more than any other people in the world. Maybe they're just suicidal. . . Why blame Israel for their mental-problems?

Originally posted by bettermakings
Let's just say that Israel actually doesn't belong there, and the land is actually all Palestine. What would "Palestine" be like? I'll tell you: It would be a 3rd world country full of Jew-hating radical-Muslims, and they would still chant and pray for the death of freedom.

Why is it that no other supposedly persecuted group of people in the world reacts so violently as the Palestinians? Some say, "Oh, if you were persecuted, you would fight back!" Where are other examples?

Why don't we hear of ANY other (supposedly) persecuted people of the world suicide-bombing? How many Iraqi or Egyptian Christians suicide bomb? Without ANY hesitation I can say that they're treated much-much worse than Palestinians. To be fair I can mention Muslims who are persecuted too, like the Kurds who fight for independence, but do not target civilians or suicide-bomb themselves.

To me, it doesn't matter who has a legitimate claim to the land of Israel-Palestine. The Palestinians are the barbarians of the world. Even neighboring countries don't want them in their countries. Jordan & Lebanon are fairly civilized countries, and do not want Palestinian barbarians in their land.

What is the solution?

I'm not claiming to have a solution, sorry. I just wanted to mention that the Palestinians are barbarians. Surveys done world-wide show that Palestinians support suicide-bombings more than any other people in the world. Maybe they're just suicidal. . . Why blame Israel for their mental-problems?

you speak like your perfect. it took 2 WORLD WARS to civilise the western world. before that and no longer than 100 years ago there existed in europe a power hungry, racist, selfish killing machines that colonized the world and fought each other killing millions over decades.

compare that to how many people the terrorists have killed?

secret societies exist, they are evil with an agenda. they back up israel and you can link the connections and symbolism. nato is not in the middle east for freedom or oil, they are there to protect israel as they anticipate a prophecy which is very real. its a plot to kill off most of the muslims and expand israel from the nile river to the euphrates. then they will build the temple where their messiah who is actually the antichrist will rule the world from jerusalem.

its deeper than just politics and race, this is about religion and both the muslims and the jews and also the christians are aware of it.

Originally posted by bettermakings
I'm not claiming to have a solution, sorry. I just wanted to mention that the Palestinians are barbarians. Surveys done world-wide show that Palestinians support suicide-bombings more than any other people in the world. Maybe they're just suicidal. . . Why blame Israel for their mental-problems?

I understand your rant to be just that with not really saying anything but let's play a little.
This, ...survey you speak of, source please, a link or something?
Much apreciated.

I can tell you why a people would be driven to suicide however.
If you had lost everythng you loved and or cared about, don't you think you might be the least bit suicidal?

Take a moment to read the pro-Israel posts on this thread and then read those defending from a Palestinian position. Draw your own conclusions.

reply to post by hdutton


80% of Jordanians are indeed Palestinian Arabs. The reason why I call them Palestinian Arabs is before 1948 both Jews and Arabs were deemed "Palestinian" in the eyes of the world until Israel was re-established.