6 Year Old Girl groped by New Orleans TSA.This Has To Stop...

reply to post by Mike.Ockizard


How many #in bombs have we found and prevented from getting on planes VIA the pants of little kids since the grope and scan plan was implimented? That's right, none..... This crap has not found a bomb in any kids pants, and prevented a single blowing up of a plane. Stay home cowards.

Scanners are dangerous to every human and should only be use for medical purposes, the use of scanners in the nation for safety purposes is just another money grab by big corporate entities and our government.

They careless about human safety, now the pad down on children should be judge like we judge abuse on children by strangers in sexual abuse behavior, any parent that just stand on the side and let a stranger sexually abuse his children is just beyond reason and safety.

This is the world our generation has created for our future generations and as long as we stand on the side lines watching the abuse is just going to get worst that already is

Wake up America!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

reply to post by mistermonculous


Not angry enough evidently because the airlines aren't suffering.

If EVERYONE that flew (except private jets because the elite don't have to be searched just us pions) refused to fly for just one entire week in protest this might end.

But, it will continue because most people are compliant sheep.

If you fly, if you have allowed or will allow your body and that of your children to be scanned and groped, you are a traitor to the human race.

Now read my name....................I read a post previously on this subject and am wondering if there are ulterior motives besides "National Security"?

I have read that perchance "they" (see They Live movie) are looking for something ? or it's a way of tweaking our DNA or something?

I openly admit that I suspect the highest PTB are not entirely human.

Welcome to 1984, They Live and Battlefield Earth.

reply to post by mishigas

What threats, honestly? Are you talking about the Federal Government?

I have yet to see any credible evidence we face any legitimate security threats, and I have yet to see a bona fide actual terrorist attack that wasn't a false flag.

reply to post by northexpedition

I'd rather live in a country without extensive security searches and have the .0001% chance of being killed in a terrorist attack than live in a country where a 6-year-old girl is molested in public in the name of security. You have a higher chance of being killed by a bee sting or being struck by lightning than dying in a terrorist attack for crying out loud!

Sadly, I think we've reached the point of no return. The American people don't have the backbone to do anything against the government, and I seriously doubt that will change, even when we are all starving and jobless. We've been conditioned from birth to accept everything, and we don't know how to *intelligently and strategically* act rebellious. Instead we are here on ATS, keyboard warriors, raging away in a closed-circuit discussion. We are just letting off steam. We aren't planning demonstrations, or calling Congress. We are just venting until our anger eventually subsides and moves onto the next flavor of the week outrage.

Where did you get that .0001% figure? Just curious. And how long do you think it would remain that low if we eliminated all security?

As far as the American people, you're wrong. These kind of threads are so predictable...they consist of 95% of members whining about the same old outrages against the government, and "Those who would give up liberty for security" adages. But when they are asked for solutions, nothing, nada, zip. Oh, maybe some dreamers selling butterflies and unicorns, but no real answers. Not even bad answers. They just don't answer. It's much easier to blame the big bad government, esp. when there are so many others doing it. Hell, it must be right, if so many peeps agree with you, eh?

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Anybody that follows politics and politicraps knows that for every attempt in this nation to either domestic and foreign treats has been followed by nothing but more money scams in the name of security and more laws to infringe in Americans rights and privacy.

So far none of the laws and security measures are geared to terrorist directly, terrorist live and thrive as usual in the same areas of the world and they will keep thriving while we in our nation become more and more enslave by the same corporate elite that is profiting from our tax payers money while using fearmongering to get their goal.

Our worst enemy in this nation is our ourselves, for believing the corporate appointed guardians and falling for their scaremongering.

reply to post by marg6043


Leaving aside the human rights issue, how effective are TSA's policies?

www.slate.com...

There are many more articles on the subject, and I urge you to do your own research. I am of the opinion that there is a hefty body of evidence to show that such measures are marginally effective at best.

How about the pornoscanner in particular?

boingboing.net...
online.wsj.com...

If we accept that such policies do not make us safer (and it would be absurd to think the TSA itself is ignorant of this fact), then what is the intended effect? Purely a psychological one. A passenger is stripped naked in front of strangers (via scanner), groped, and has his/her personal belongings handled. Erosion of the right to privacy, and our complicity therein, moves us briskly in a undesirable direction.

The intended psychological effect on children? From the mouth of a TSA official:
www.rawstory.com...

I also feel the need to point out that these policies are implemented by other humans, with their own strengths and flaws. Just as there are TSA employees who are compassionate and (insofar as the situation allows for) respectful, there are those who will use their position to nasty ends.

news.cnet.com...

Finally, you CAN fly without submitting to these measures. Print this out and take it with you on your next trip:
saizai.com...

What I want to know, why are all the Americans allowing this nonsence to continue? Do you enjoy being humiliated and sexually molested by strangers? Do you enjoy TSA doing it to your own children ??????

What if TSA said you and your children had to be subjected to a finger up in to your private parts; you'd allow that too? Sounds impossible and that would never happen? They are already touching you and your children's private parts as it is......

Seems you people would do anything to fly

Whats wrong with you people????

reply to post by marg6043

Anybody that follows politics and politicraps knows that for every attempt in this nation to either domestic and foreign treats has been followed by nothing but more money scams in the name of security and more laws to infringe in Americans rights and privacy.

That's the same anywhere you go, marg, not just America.

So far none of the laws and security measures are geared to terrorist directly, terrorist live and thrive as usual in the same areas of the world and they will keep thriving while we in our nation become more and more enslave by the same corporate elite that is profiting from our tax payers money while using fearmongering to get their goal.

What would you suggest? That we take the fight overseas?

Our worst enemy in this nation is our ourselves, for believing the corporate appointed guardians and falling for their scaremongering.

OK, we disbelieve them. What do we do next?

reply to post by mishigas

Name one industrialized nation that has no equivalent security in their airports? Just one.

How about every other industrialized nation? No other industrialized nation gropes 6-year-old girls and puts their hands down people's pants. Only the United States.

Originally posted by northexpedition
reply to post by mishigas

 

Name one industrialized nation that has no equivalent security in their airports? Just one.

How about every other industrialized nation? No other industrialized nation gropes 6-year-old girls and puts their hands down people's pants. Only the United States.

Lord help me...people just say crap...

Netherlands

...scanners are not new. The BBC’s Geraldine Kaufflin says that at Schipol airport in the Netherlands, they started using them earlier this year.

India

people here in India are pretty used to great detailed security checks.

For years now, more than a decade, complete frisking, people here are quite used to being patted down.

In the capital of Indian administered Kashmir, there are several layers of security.

There is a security check post that’s been created a few kilometers from the airport. You have to go through the same drill of being frisked, your baggage is x-rayed, you have to take everything out of the taxi.

Then, before you enter the airport there is another round of checking and then inside the airport you have once again to go through the same exercise.

It’s fairly long, detailed, but people generally are very, very cooperative; people go through that without ever asking any questions. I’m Jyostna Singh in New Delhi.

www.theworld.org...

reply to post by maybereal11


Australia is also getting in the Xray scanners from the USA but they do not do pat downs by touching passenger's private parts except those suspected of containing drugs inside their bodies thats done in a private room like all airport customs.

Australian Customs still use profiling and our customs officers are highly skilled and trained unlike TSA agents in American airports.

My fiancees grandfather told me when he was in the korean war he had kids shooting at him with AKs.
You people overreact.
She could of been strapped with explosives. We dont know. If you dont want these people doing their job then dont fly. Period.

I dont see whats so horrible about it no one groping the little girl. No one is touching her in an inappropriate manner. it suck that we hace to be searched but these people are doing their jobs.

Like I said, if you dont like it dont fly.

reply to post by maybereal11

I was referring to pat downs, not body scanners. I didn't say anything about body scanners, please reread my post before saying I don't know anything about body scanners being used in other countries.

reply to post by celimonster

Yeah, let me tell you, there's so many Caucasian Al-Qaeda sleeper cells in the United States. We better look under our beds every night, they could even be your neighbor, you never know!



Come on now, it's obviously unnecessary. You can't go through life expecting total safety. It is *significantly* more risky to drive an automobile to and from work every day than to get killed by a terrorist attack. Should we then ban cars because you might get hurt in an auto accident? Let me say it again, you can't expect total security, it just doesn't exist, and touching a young child in the private parts is not going to prevent somebody from sneaking across the Mexican border with a suitcase nuke.

reply to post by celimonster



Touching the private parts of anyone (except two consenting adults) warrants a serious sexual offence but TSA are excempt?

get back to us when you have children !!! I'd be shocked if any mother would allow this to happen to their child.....and don't forget the child was drug tested too. A six year old child!!!

The ignoramous of people on these threads........unbeliveable!

yeah yeah, I also had an uncle in the Korean war........what the hell does that have to do with the TSA???

reply to post by marg6043


It has nothing to do with terrorist or protecting people. The child thing is a shot across the bow, pretty much saying we own you and your flesh - you are powerless and those who travel on a regular basis cannot help but become indoctrinated. It is an attempt to turn the TSA in to police that do not have to follow our Constitutional rules. It's sort of an expansion of the War on Drugs and untaxed revenue looking for anyone bypassing the banking system to move cash.

Notice how we have the TSA sympathizers in this thread include the statement that the child could be carrying drugs or other contraband? So, here they are even admitting it may not really be about their safety after all, but something else. If it's okay for kids to be patted down for contraband in the airport why not everywhere else without Constitutional protections, see where this leads.

Nobody would stop at a voluntary IRS or DEA checkpoint to be humiliated and harassed, so it is disguised as a voluntary airline safety checkpoint that really isn't voluntary if you want to use that form a transport. Once accepted as normal though it will be any form of transport outside your driveway.

This is how tyrannical police forces have operated throughout history and why our Constitution was written in the first place. By the arrest of persons found with "contraband" by an actual police agency the TSA believe they are not acting as police and therefore don't have to play by Constitutional rules.

The TSA leaders, currently John Pistole are professional cops who don't believe they should be subject to any rules. It doesn't take too much imagination to put horns on that guys head - just do a Google and look at his picture - evil drips out drips out of his pores. Just like Chertoff prior to him they could both be models for satan or an evil alien.

reply to post by northexpedition

reply to post by maybereal11

I was referring to pat downs, not body scanners. I didn't say anything about body scanners, please reread my post before saying I don't know anything about body scanners being used in other countries.

Well since I asked the original question, let me reiterate:

"Name one industrialized nation that has no equivalent security in their airports? Just one. "

Notice I said "equivalent security". Full body scanners have be said to effectively undress the person. OK with you? And many airports openly state that they use profiling. Once again, OK with you?

reply to post by celimonster

Come on now, it's obviously unnecessary. You can't go through life expecting total safety. It is *significantly* more risky to drive an automobile to and from work every day than to get killed by a terrorist attack.

You forgot to add "in the US". It's not true in Beirut or Baghdad or Kabul or Jerusalem.

Should we then ban cars because you might get hurt in an auto accident?

No, but we shouldn't eliminate drivers licenses or auto safety inspections, either.

reply to post by bluemirage5

Touching the private parts of anyone (except two consenting adults) warrants a serious sexual offence but TSA are excempt?

Yes, they are, just as everyone is, if there is a reason to. Touching the private parts is an issue only if it is with sexual intent. This does not apply here, it is a search, not sex.

reply to post by celimonster


Why don't you spare us your fear and hook yourself up to a feeding tube and stay home yourself.

Judging from you avatar, I'd put money on it that you or some in your clan are employed by the TSA or at least you feel kinsman ship with them due to similar DNA.