6 Year Old Girl groped by New Orleans TSA.This Has To Stop...

reply to post by ofhumandescent


How can this website not be infiltrated? It has been mentioned in MSM many times. To think that this many people come and talk about conspiracies and injustices done by TPTB and nothing is thought about it, is plainly foolish, almost ludicrous. To think of the amount of people on here who talk about being awakened and knowing so much of the worlds current events is a laugh and a half. I dont claim to know anymore than the next guy but the conditioning that is taking place all over is quite obvious. Whether it be in the airports or in our schools to listen to "authority" figures. Wake up people, ill say it again... Revolution

Originally posted by Prowler33

Originally posted by KrazyJethro
What exactly do you expect them to do? Three points:

1) Like it or not there are people who can and will use children and our sensitivities to them against us by hiding items on their bodies. There are a fair amount of people in the world who would do some very sick things to a child to accomplish the aims of the almighty god.

2) This is far from "groping", by definition.

3) If the issue is that it's the government doing it, fine, I tend to agree and I'm no government apologist. However, if we removed the government and required airport owners and airlines themselves to provide their own security (which would be fine with me) provided they took the burden should they miss anything, it would be whatever security company these companies would hire doing the exact same thing.

Would it be different if it was a private company?

Peace
KJ

Dude, Cheney and Company orchestrated the September 11 attacks in order to give us this and other violations of search and siezure. Get some metal detectors and a private security firm after you charge the REAL 9/11 conspirators with high-treason. This six-year old is not one of them.

"He who trades liberty for security deserves neither and will lose both."-Thomas Jefferson

I wonder what the thread title would be if the bad guys managed to sneak a bomb on a plane using a kid and the result was the killing of all passengers and crew?

Just sayin....

reply to post by mindseye21


I say the some of the ones at the top are traitors to humanity.

No names unless pressed. And it would be my only gut feeling so not worth much to anyone else.

reply to post by Mike.Ockizard

I wonder what the thread title would be if the bad guys managed to sneak a bomb on a plane using a kid and the result was the killing of all passengers and crew?

Just sayin....

The assumption behind this question seems to be that if only a child was used as a human bomb to board an airplane killing passengers and crew, then surely those who are outraged at the unlawful behavior of the TSA would finally be as frightened as you are and join you in your defense of tyranny.

As this thread grows, many join in to defend the tyranny of the United States governments by pointing out that the world we live in today is just too dangerous to allow for freedom. "It's just the times we live in" that seems to be the chorus of those government sycophants. It is an profound lack of historical context is what it really is.

Historically speaking, even further back than the Spartan's of Ancient Greece, military's have conscripted children for their purposes. From the Spartan's to the Young Turks of the Ottoman Empire as far back as the 1300's, children have been either recruited or kidnapped and brainwashed to serve as soldiers, even elite soldiers, in some military.

Using children as agents of death is nothing new and has existed since time immemorial, so when people excuse tyranny because of "the times we live in" they are either ignorant of the fact that such times have always existed, or they are hypocrites too willing to excuse past generations for tolerating freedom in the face of times we live.

Either way, it is hardly a cogent or valid argument for those who stand in defense of freedom.

Just sayin' that's all...

reply to post by Jean Paul Zodeaux


You speak the truth of history.

That misuse of children in history cannot be denied, but continued misuse doesn't excuse the act. It merely shows man to be the fallen despot he really is all throughout history.

reply to post by grimdar


Yes you are correct.

Keenly observant while most Americans remain compliant and blind.

Thank you - we need more input from our sisters and brothers from other continents.

America is not free...................read my location.

I issue a warning, if a lot of people do not wake up and fast, this will spread globally. The culling has already begun.

reply to post by Jean Paul Zodeaux


Not my point. Sorry you missed it. Not defending anyone.

If it happens and they werent checking people then there would be an outcry for them to search everyone. People are fickle. They change thier minds when unexpected things happen. We all helped create this mess. Together we can fix it if we really want to. Sadly there is not consensus..... Yet.

Stay tuned and hope we reach consensus soon.

Just sayin.....

grep -i response grop.txt

this is absolutely disgusting!!
is this not enough for us ALL OF US to say thats it,
We all read this and still sit and live like this is normal
this should give us chills what if it was US standing there
you would let some authority figure do this to your child?
I would rather a day in court to explain my out rage on all matters
then to watch this happen. When does it end? No voice at all HUMANS
let's stand and the stand starts here NOW

DEAD EARTH INDUSTRIES

:: END TRANSMISSION

reply to post by Mike.Ockizard


If you honestly believe you are making a point that is not a defense of tyranny, then perhaps you might consider actually making that point. Your follow up post does nothing at all to clarify your point, and only reiterates what you all ready pointed out, that if a child were used as human bomb on an airplane many would scream for more security. That point was not missed. If you believed you made a separate point, that point is not so clear.

Originally posted by tcmkenny

Originally posted by freedish
like a six year old girl is gonna be carrying a bomb... this is disgusting

in this day and age a 6 yr old can very easily be carrying a bomb, not by choice but there are extremeists that use such a method.

I fully agree that no child should be subject to such a proceedure however it is the world we now live in. Where do you draw the line for public safety? if they didnt search any children and one was used as a bomb and blew up your family waiting in the airport terminal im sure you would ask why she wasnt searched.

if a terrorist wants to kill a bunch of people, it is gonna happen no matter what. What's to stop a terrorist from blowing up a bus full of people? What does it matter if it happens in an airplane or in a school bus, either way about the same amount of people are going to die.

It doesn't make sense that we have so much security at airports but not bus terminals, or even at our mexico border. any idea how much drugs are smuggled into the US?

point is, if someone wants to kill someone else- there really isn't anything to stop them if they are determined enough like these terrorists are. if we put tons of security at airports, then they'll just go bomb a post office or something. we can't be safe 100% of the time.

Originally posted by romanmel
reply to post by Jean Paul Zodeaux

 

You speak the truth of history.

That misuse of children in history cannot be denied, but continued misuse doesn't excuse the act. It merely shows man to be the fallen despot he really is all throughout history.

No one is excusing the act of using children for the purposes of military. The point is that even in the face of this, there was a time when the unalienable rights of individuals was actually respected rather than dismissed as being a luxury because fear is a privilege greater than rights.

That people are oh so willing to sacrifice my rights in the name of their fear shows humanity to be the fallen despot they really are.

Originally posted by Jean Paul Zodeaux

Originally posted by romanmel
reply to post by Jean Paul Zodeaux

 

You speak the truth of history.

That misuse of children in history cannot be denied, but continued misuse doesn't excuse the act. It merely shows man to be the fallen despot he really is all throughout history.

No one is excusing the act of using children for the purposes of military. The point is that even in the face of this, there was a time when the unalienable rights of individuals was actually respected rather than dismissed as being a luxury because fear is a privilege greater than rights.

That people are oh so willing to sacrifice my rights in the name of their fear shows humanity to be the fallen despot they really are.

The time of "unalienable rights of individuals " ended when BigGov decided to kill the last president to dare challenge TPTB. Every president since understands who owns this country and where his orders come from. Forty-eight years ago "unalienable rights of individuals " for all practical purposes ended.

reply to post by romanmel

The time of "unalienable rights of individuals " ended when BigGov decided to kill the last president to dare challenge TPTB. Every president since understands who owns this country and where his orders come from. Forty-eight years ago "unalienable rights of individuals " for all practical purposes ended.

Unalienable rights do not come with an expiration date, and do not have a shelf life. All people everywhere have unalienable rights. Either people respect those rights, or they do not. Murderers, rapists and thieves clearly do not respect these rights, and clearly you do not either. If you are fine being like minded with murderers, rapists and thieves this is your business.

Rights are not owned by mysterious acronymistic TPTB's or Presidents to be doled out magnanimously to the people. People are born with certain unalienable rights and either they will fight to protect those rights or they will not. Some will gladly surrender them. Some will not. If and when those who are unwilling to surrender their rights are able to swing the national mood back a regard for human rights, all benefit. At present the national mood is reflected by posters such as yourself who work tirelessly in dismissing rights in the name of fear, and while you may think you benefit from this, from my point of view no one benefits, but I for one certainly do not benefit.

reply to post by Jean Paul Zodeaux


I guess it could be taken as pointless, but like I said, just sayin.

Cant explain why I posted originally but I figure it must've been my reaction to th OP titling the post as if it was kiddie porn or something and the subsequent posts of OMG, this is horrible. My reaction was they searched a little girl, sad... But then I thought through the reasoning behind it. Then I played out that reasoning, that we dont search everyone, someone puts a kid on a plane with a bomb and lots of people get killed. Sure wouldn't want that to happen either. I weigh one against the other and little girl getting searched loses. Sorry.

To charachterize that as support for the practice of searching everyone would be misguided. Just saying that if I had to chose between those two outcomes, I'd rather not die. And I know there are alternate possibilities.

As for the comment about the alternate title for the post, I still wonder. Pointless?

reply to post by Jean Paul Zodeaux


And I almost forgot, do you realize that you used the word "point" 7 times in six sentences? Pretty cool.

reply to post by Mike.Ockizard


Clearly by your last post, I did not miss the point of your original post at all. Oh well, because I am scared, the little girl looses? That is your point, and you have effectively made that clear in your last post.

Just because rights are being trampled upon randomly as opposed to uniformly does not excuse this disparagement of rights, and since it was you who made the point that there are evil people who will use children for the purposes of destruction, then it should be pointed out that this is precisely what you are doing, even if it be a random act.

reply to post by Jean Paul Zodeaux

If you honestly believe you are making a point that is not a defense of tyranny, then perhaps you might consider actually making that point. Your follow up post does nothing at all to clarify your point, and only reiterates what you all ready pointed out, that if a child were used as human bomb on an airplane many would scream for more security. That point was not missed. If you believed you made a separate point, that point is not so clear.

It is you that is missing the point of his post, if I may interject. We all know that many people would scream for more security. What he wanted to know was, what would your reaction be.

My guess? You'd apologize for the real perps and march out the same tired arguments that it was the fault of 'tyranny and TPTB'.

Sorry for interrupting, Mike.Ockizard. I didn't mean to sound like I was speaking for you.

reply to post by mishigas

My guess? You'd apologize for the real perps and march out the same tired arguments that it was the fault of 'tyranny and TPTB'.

Far from being an educated guess, sport, you are just one more sycophant of tyranny excusing the disparagement of rights in the name of fear.

There is no need to apologize for any criminality in order to assert my rights. It is a failed logic to assert that because I do not accept that I must surrender my rights so that you may harbor a delusion of safety that this becomes some sort of advocacy of criminality. The fact of the matter is that when people like you argue that rights must be surrendered so that you can feel safe, and the excuse is due to some act of terrorism that happened over a decade ago, not only has the crime of terrorism been perpetrated, albeit more than a decade ago, but now the crime of trampling all over individual rights is also perpetrated.

While there are many lunatics who have brilliant minds, there are also plenty of stupid lunatics, and they are the least tolerable of all.

reply to post by ofhumandescent


Much of the conditioning is aimed directly at the children. I am certain that I am not the only parent here to be appalled at some of the clothing sold for young girls these days. Things I would not have been allowed to wear at my high school, on kids not even in their teens. Sex ed for kindergarten. Parents smiling as their kids sing utterly vulgar lyrics (like that Genie in a Bottle song...). and the parents don't even seem to hear what is actually being said! The parents are brainwashed, and the children are sexualized. Now, they are being told the government can touch them anywhere and everywhere, and it's "for their safety"? Line should have been drawn a long time ago - getting late in the game now.

Will repeat, ANYONE tries that with one of mine, they better have a death wish. NOT kidding, either.

I have to add another comment, after reading several of the latest ones.

First, people do, in fact, have a right to fly as a method of travel if they wish, and choosing that method does NOT, by any stretch of the imagination, mean that they have given up their rights. Anyone stating otherwise needs to look up and read the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, etc., and LEARN. Second, this isn't because "the devil" gave us flying, etc. Seriously?? People fly because it's faster, most of the time, and they need to for business, or want to for a vacation. Nothing about that means the government, or anyone else, has the right to pat down people for NO REASON. Especially since they refuse to check the people most likely to actually be a threat to a plane.

Don't kid yourselves, either. This is not just airports. They have vans patrolling the southern border, that can x-ray your CAR, and see if you are carrying a gun in it. In my state, I can carry one in my car, no permit needed. Can open-carry, too. Yet those vans would see me as a criminal or terrorist. Then we have the cameras. Every place you go, there are cameras. Stores, roads, schools, all over the place. No privacy at all. Heard of people in GB that had "traffic mans" that were looking INTO THEIR HOMES! How may of you live in a place where you might have the same? They can take your property for no reason other than an accusation of drugs. No evidence, no charges, even. They can take your property if they decide it would better serve THEM in some other fashion. They can tell you that you have no right to the water, the minerals, the oil, etc, on land you OWN. Whether you can build this or that. How high your grass can be. Children are forced to go to school (some places it's very hard to home school), and then forced to hear about practices they should not, whether parents agree or not, forced to eat the school lunch, subject to limitations on their freedom of speech, subject to illegal search and seizure, etc.

This business with TSA is just another step in the process.

For those claiming that "nothing inappropriate happened"; do you think Obama would subject HIS children to this? How about the rest of the politicians? Would you want some stranger touching your child like that? This was wrong. Deeply wrong. If we don't stand up and fight this sort of thing, it will be too late.