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Originally posted by Santh
Hello everyone, long time reader here.. i joined but haven't posted much, but I JUST have to comment on this.
Have any of you actually watched the video. I went through 7 pages, and it looks like everyone just jumped on the bandwagon of the OP. I gather that from the lack of reference to the evidence (the video), and many of you just repeating the same thing over and over, and then starring each other.
I watched the video and I can see nothing inappropriate.
Originally posted by Thunder heart woman
Originally posted by Santh
Hello everyone, long time reader here.. i joined but haven't posted much, but I JUST have to comment on this.
Have any of you actually watched the video. I went through 7 pages, and it looks like everyone just jumped on the bandwagon of the OP. I gather that from the lack of reference to the evidence (the video), and many of you just repeating the same thing over and over, and then starring each other.
I watched the video and I can see nothing inappropriate.
I'm on my own bandwagon and I still believe it looks like a child being touched inappropriately to me. And again, just because the woman is being polite, announcing her hand movements on the child's body, and being professional doesn't make it right. I have a 7 year old daughter and no one in my family has touched her in the places this TSA agent has done in that video. Hell, not even her family doctor has touched her on her bottom or between her legs.
I won't be accepting the new normal being provided for us in paranoia theater at the airports. We just won't fly.
Originally posted by bastet11
To those that condone this, picture it this way:
Instead of a TSA agent, picture a elementary school teacher or guidance counselor or maybe a swim coach or Sunday school teacher..or any person with regular contact with children running their hands along a child in that manner..including feeling down both the front and back of their pants..were that your child..you would be calling the cops so fast their head would spin..
Yet because someone wears a badge and claims this to be in the name of security..that is alright with you?? What will you be okay with next, if this doesn't seem like groping..a strip search?
Originally posted by TheEndisNigh
Originally posted by Thunder heart woman
Originally posted by Santh
Hello everyone, long time reader here.. i joined but haven't posted much, but I JUST have to comment on this.
Have any of you actually watched the video. I went through 7 pages, and it looks like everyone just jumped on the bandwagon of the OP. I gather that from the lack of reference to the evidence (the video), and many of you just repeating the same thing over and over, and then starring each other.
I watched the video and I can see nothing inappropriate.
I'm on my own bandwagon and I still believe it looks like a child being touched inappropriately to me. And again, just because the woman is being polite, announcing her hand movements on the child's body, and being professional doesn't make it right. I have a 7 year old daughter and no one in my family has touched her in the places this TSA agent has done in that video. Hell, not even her family doctor has touched her on her bottom or between her legs.
I won't be accepting the new normal being provided for us in paranoia theater at the airports. We just won't fly.
So no one in your family has touched your daughter in that way? Has your daughter ever been given a bath? Yup, that's what I thought. Please think before you post.
BOISE -- A 54-year-old man is behind bars, accused of inappropriately touching a child younger than six, on more than one occasion.
Investigators arrested Douglas Gohr of Boise after the lewd conduct was reported to police Tuesday.
The victim told police the touching took place at a west Boise home. Police say Gohr is well known to the young girl and they do not believe there are any other victims.
The case has been passed on to the Ada County Prosecuting Attorney's Office.
Originally posted by freedish
like a six year old girl is gonna be carrying a bomb... this is disgusting
Inappropriate touching of minors is OK within the confines of an airport, but outside of the airport, it's illegal.
Originally posted by ofhumandescent
reply to post by Wolfenz
Our government, particularly the CIA trains terrorists as well as goes all over the globe and takes out people who do not knuckle under to TPTB as well as places "compliant" leaders in their place.
Read: "The Secret Team" by L. Fletcher Prouty
Two other books I highly recommend are:
Family of Secrets by Russ Baker and JFK And The Unspeakable, Why He Died And Why It Matters by James W. Douglass.
On April 23, 1976 Roselli was called before the committee to testify about a conspiracy to kill President Kennedy.[3] Three months after his first round of testimony on the Kennedy assassination, the Committee wanted to recall Roselli. However, at this point, he had been missing since July 28. On August 3, Senator Howard Baker, a member of the new SSCIA, requested the FBI investigate Roselli's disappearance.[3] [edit] Death On August 9, Roselli's decomposing body was found in a 55-gallon steel fuel drum floating in Dumfounding Bay near Miami, Florida. Roselli had been strangled and shot, and his legs were sawn off. Some believed that boss Trafficante ordered Roselli's death. According to this theory, Trafficante believed that Roselli had revealed too much about the Kennedy assassination and Castro murder plots during his Senate testimony, violating the strict Mafia code of omertà (silence).[8]
Originally posted by Tonosama
Originally posted by Aristophrenia
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Yet for some reason, simply because they leave the ground, they are searched like this ?
The truth is that this is a method of getting your acceptance - next stop it will be the school bus, the theatre, the Grey hound.
Let me be very, very clear to Americans - these types of scanners are in Australia and many other countries - they are illegal to simply use on anyone - you must be suspected of first carrying a weapon or drugs and then AGREE to the search and if not you are taken to a hospital for an internal xray.
This is Americans, the people, bowing down and groveling like slaves. Americans have become weak.
Unfortunately I have to agree with you. I have flown a lot all over the world (only continent I haven't been to is Antarctica) and the only time you get harassed is when flying to/from the US. If you are flying a US carrier then double the trouble. When flying on a non-US carrier to a country other than the US from a country other than the US you go through NONE of this BS. Most countries only make you walk through a metal detector; some don't even do that. There are no pat-downs or naked body scanners; no long lines waiting for someone to check your papers; no random stops for questions; no getting stopped on the jetway (yes, my family was stopped on the jetway to be "checked" years ago while people that should be checked walked right on board).
I fly to/from the US as little as possible and I avoid US carriers as much as possible. I know this isn't really an option for folks living in the US. I don't know what to tell you. TPTB know they have you over a barrel at the airport. Either you are travelling on business or on a discount fare ticket and you:
1) don't want to lose your money
2) don't want to lose your job
3) are just scared to death of the gestapo arresting you
TPTB count on this to conduct illegal, unconstitutional and unwarranted search and seizure.
So, for the foreseeable period when I can avoid flying to/from the US and/or on a US carrier I will do that. When I have no choice I will decide at that time if I will accept this invasion of my privacy and my rights or not. Hard to say until I am in that spot but I, like most people on this site who aren't "ATS forum tough-guys", also do not want any of the above 3 items to happen to me.
Persist
EDIT
That being said. I don't recall seeing any Aussies, or anyone else for that matter, throwing down with the TSA agents we have deployed in your countries making you go through our naked body scanners and get groped just for the privilege of flying into the US. Where is your outrage?
Not trying to throw stones but it is easy to point out our flaws and not look at your own. Why is your government allowing the US to put TSA agents and naked body scanners in your country? What are you doing to stop it?
edit on 11-4-2011 by Tonosama because: (no reason given)
I and many many other people all over the internet are totally disgusted that the government is feeling up little kids to see if they are a 'terrorist'. I don't care if a building blew up 10 years ago, there are other ways to do this, and the way the TSA is doing it now isn't doing anything anyways, people still get in with guns. So please tell me what I can do to help eliminate the body scanners and keep security guards from being required to feel up little kids. The kids can tell it's strange, they naturally have the instincts to tell them it's not good, but it seems some adults lack this knowledge. Letting creepers feel up little kids is not exactly my idea of safety. I have another idea for security that would work much better, and I'm sure there are other people who can tell you the same. All I want to know is how I, and many others online can make an impact to help bring this insanity to an end. Please get back to me about it soon.
Originally posted by Maslo
reply to post by Thunder heart woman
Inappropriate touching of minors is OK within the confines of an airport, but outside of the airport, it's illegal.
It is not inapropiate touching unless it is sexual. A search is not sexual in any way.
Originally posted by XRaDiiX
reply to post by ofhumandescent
So whens the next french style revolution; i say the times are due to shed the blood of the tyrants of North-America!.
Although we still do have it better than most 3rd,2nd world countries; still though the Elite have got to go.
There is some kind of global scheme going on.