Proof Of Alien Contact? Could This Be The Smoking Gun?, page 15

posted on Apr, 4 2011 @ 01:42 PM

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WOW!!!! I also didn't see the parts of the below Rare Earths....

Many of these rare earths are used in high-speed Cell Phone chips, locationing & guidance systems (GPS)
that require operating in the multi-Gigahertz range OR as the main ingredients for high-temperature
resistant and/or biologically inert glass ceramics...AND in combination...many make compounds
that are Peizoelectric AND/OR superconducting !!!!!!!!

List of REE's detected:
Ytterbium
Yttrium --- Yttrium/Garnet/Copper combos make GREAT high-temperature superconductors!
Cerium
Praseodymium
Neodymium --- Used to make awesomely powerful magnets
Samarium
Europium
Gadolinium
Dysprosium
Erbium

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Logical one

posted on Apr, 4 2011 @ 01:52 PM

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Originally posted by RisenAngel77

But the question is, can someone be shot from a falling meteorite and not notice?
. The findings from that surgery was that of rare meteorite samples.
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A few points here, I've mentioned it before ands so have others, it is quite possible that this meteorite fragment entered the man' skin years before......perhaps even as child.
Whether it actually hit the man's chin or entered as a result of the man/boy falling onto the ground we can only speculate,
The point being that however the piece of meteorite got there, it would well be that the boy and his parents brushed it off as a bug bite or just another outdoor scratch, it eventually healed over and was forgotten about perhaps for decades.

As a child I remembered a time when I got a tiny splinter of wood or metal embedded in my hand, I couldn't manage to remove it myself so I left it where it was.
I wasn't too painful, just uncomfortable at certain times when I used my hand. My hand never swelled up even though the splinter was in my hand for several days.
I eventually decided to break the skin which had healed over and managed to get the splinter out with tweezers.
I could imagine though that the splinter could have been remained in my hand if I chose to keep it there.

As for "rare" meteorite samples...............I can't recall them being described as "rare", small meteorites hit the Earth all the time.

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aerospace

posted on Apr, 4 2011 @ 01:56 PM

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To address the person who quoted my post, I work in the mechanics of materials group as of current. We test and develop interesting new alloys and exotic materials. I'm wondering what sort of project you work on that the university thought was interesting. Feel free to PM me if you'd like, and I can tell you where funds and support might be available.

Also, let me re-iterate for those who are getting excited over certain trace elements... It's common!!

Chinesis

posted on Apr, 4 2011 @ 02:05 PM

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Originally posted by dereks

Originally posted by OrionHunterX
Not just any lab, but Los Alamos National Laboratory, New Mexico Tech and the University of California, Santiago have analyzed this particular implant and have come to some astounding conclusions. ..........

What’s more the lab tests conducted by NMT were corroborated by The University of California, Santiago which concluded that:

THE METALS AND THEIR COMBINATIONS IN THE IMPLANT WAS MANUFACTURED AND EXTRATERRESTRIAL IN ORIGIN.

Did they? Care to show us where that is stated on their websites.... or show us exactly where they have documented that silly claim.

Why doesn’t the MSM come out with such accounts and accord it more publicity?

Accord what more publicity? Show us the report from the Universities where they state what you claim

What an asinine post this is.
You ask questions in a smug, smart ass sort of way, I mean wow!

Talk about putting your own foot inside of your mouth before you even KNOW something is for certain (or not)

Oops.

Logical one

posted on Apr, 4 2011 @ 02:20 PM

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Originally posted by XtraTL

Secondly, he claims that the thing was transmitting on a radio frequency. If that were true, it would be the single greatest find of science. Yet he just removes the thing as though that were some mundane unimportant fact.

Moreover, he presents no video documenting this. He doesn't describe the equipment used to detect the radio frequency transmissions. He presents no recording of the transmission.

Yes years ago I saw a TV programme where Dr.Leir makes claims of radio frequency being emitted, but I too could not believe it , that Lier having discovered this potential Earth shattering discovery,doesn't even bother to get his hands on a video recorder to document this highly unusual finding......... its very suspect to say the least!

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Logical one

posted on Apr, 4 2011 @ 02:28 PM

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Originally posted by OrionHunterX

So why would these results look ambiguous? Is it that the CIA / DIA or some other three letter clubs are keeping a tab on such tests? If those scientists don't tow the established official line, their funding would come to zilch? So would anyone risk putting out the truth? Just saying...

Leir and his "private" collection of implants have been publicly known for years now......I'm sure if the CIA were worried about" Leir or his "implant" he'd have met a "mysterious" fatal accident by now..... the fact that he hasn't ......points to no such CIA cover up.

nh_ee

posted on Apr, 4 2011 @ 02:32 PM

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In looking at the structure of our very own DNA it is very much improbable that it was created by chance..

Remember what the scientist who'd discovered the structure of our DNA had said. in that It was more likely for a 747 to be constructed as a result of a Tornado having flown above and having demolished a junk yard than our DNA not having been made by intelligent beings.

It's mathematically impossible that we are the ONLY living and thinking beings in existence.

StargateSG7

posted on Apr, 4 2011 @ 02:45 PM

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What sort of Super-alloys or Composites?

By any chance you working on composite High-Temp Glass Ceramics?

Any Alumina-based or Cobalt Steels?

Any double-walled Hexagon Structures with embedded Aerogel for insulation properties?

Fractal waveguides embedded into Single-Walled Carbon Nanotube Sheets
for RF/Microwave and Visual Stealth By any Chance?

I could use a few sources myself for our high-atmosphere UAV project hulls.

U2U me or add to this post!

Logical one

posted on Apr, 4 2011 @ 03:20 PM

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Originally posted by nh_ee

Remember what the scientist who'd discovered the structure of our DNA had said. in that It was more likely for a 747 to be constructed as a result of a Tornado having flown above and having demolished a junk yard than our DNA not having been made by intelligent beings.

Not sure where you get your information from nh ee, but what you have said is incorrect.

It was Fred Hoye the famous English astronomer, not the discoverer of DNA that said:

"A junkyard contains all the bits and pieces of a Boeing 747, dismembered and in disarray. A whirlwind happens to blow through the yard. What is the chance that after its passage a fully assembled 747, ready to fly, will be found standing there?"
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Apocalyptic

posted on Apr, 4 2011 @ 03:40 PM
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Interesting but I immediately raise the red flat regarding a few points:

1. He has a book
2. His rare element list is just a list of the last few elements on the table. For some reason, people always think that to make something "sound" alien, just say its made of the more rare elements and people will believe you.
3. No video of the incredible claims involving the patients house and its magnetic anomalies. Who the hell wouldn't film that?!
4. No additional close up photos/videos of all the extracted pieces together
5. No video of them "aggregating".
6. No video of them studying or analyzing the objects and measuring their radio frequency, radiation, etc.
7. The totally random bit at the end where he goes a bit off.

His claims and "supposed" evidence are amazing...sounding...but if it was that incredible, you'd have more. If I was a doctor and saw this with my own two eyes, I'd present and gather so much solid proof that would leave no shred of doubt.

ArMaP

posted on Apr, 4 2011 @ 03:53 PM
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Originally posted by solomons path
Read the tread . . . nothing I posed was answered.

First, and I'll apologize if this has been mentioned earlier as I stopped reading on page two, there is no such monster as the University of California, Santiago.

Explanation

There is a NMT, with an electron microprobe lab, and one of their listed areas of research is identification of mystery materials . . . I see nothing in their archives relating to Leir or foreign metals connected to nerve endings
You're right, the opening post said that the NMT found that the implant was connected to the patient's nerve endings, but there isn't any source for that on the thread.

Also, a report was posted but it doesn't show anything that connects it to the NMT.

redwine425

posted on Apr, 4 2011 @ 05:22 PM
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Originally posted by Apocalyptic
Interesting but I immediately raise the red flat regarding a few points:

1. He has a book
2. His rare element list is just a list of the last few elements on the table. For some reason, people always think that to make something "sound" alien, just say its made of the more rare elements and people will believe you.
3. No video of the incredible claims involving the patients house and its magnetic anomalies. Who the hell wouldn't film that?!
4. No additional close up photos/videos of all the extracted pieces together
5. No video of them "aggregating".
6. No video of them studying or analyzing the objects and measuring their radio frequency, radiation, etc.
7. The totally random bit at the end where he goes a bit off.

His claims and "supposed" evidence are amazing...sounding...but if it was that incredible, you'd have more. If I was a doctor and saw this with my own two eyes, I'd present and gather so much solid proof that would leave no shred of doubt.

Good post, really makes you think. Why he wouldn't have all the evidence easily accessible is beyond me...

Plus like you said he has a book, you'd be thinking he'd want to document every anomaly he's come across...

urbancowboy13

posted on Apr, 4 2011 @ 05:50 PM
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Can you say Drake equation..! I agree that the sheer numbers that were are alone in the universe ( which is ever expanding ) are astronomical. I don't need any sort of degree or background to believe such. I believe one could assume that anything of extra terrestrial design does not necessary have to be "little gray men". I believe there are microscopic "alien" life that exist in the solar system, yet to be discovered.

Any one can discredit any one. Belief is your own, however unfathomable to another.

MissingRonnieR

posted on Apr, 4 2011 @ 06:16 PM
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Walk outside your moms basement. Find an ant hill. Look at the ant hill, kick the ant hill, take a pee on the ant hill. Walk back in to your moms basement and tell us how it changed your life. It did not.change your life, you are greater, smarter, and more powerful than the ants. There are NO ALEINS, they would not hide, or study, or kidnap you, they would kick your hill and wiz on you. This technology is government technlonogydesigned to control you, pure and simple.

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XtraTL

posted on Apr, 4 2011 @ 06:50 PM
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Originally posted by aerospace
I admit that I only read the first 7 pages or so before skipping to the back, but I didn't see any materials scientists or engineers weighing in....

Since I am, here's what the SEM results actually say- as many have guessed, it's a complex iron-based alloy. The presence of "weird" trace elements generally indicate nothing more than the quality of the manufacturing plant. This material sample has trace elements well within the limits of a "super clean" designation, and this is quite honestly nothing more than a piece of hardened stainless steel, and a quite common alloy. The fact that this was found in a foot by a podiatrist/surgeon makes a lot of sense, as these slivers can work their way into your hands and feet without you noticing and you will find them years later as they shift and cause discomfort.

Thank you for that. I've personally made up my mind about this subject now.

I think it is probable that this is not even extraterrestrial in origin, i.e. not a meteorite, but a piece of common hardened stainless steel as you suggest.

After quite a bit of thought about the Dr's supposed qualifications, and some of the utterly brain-dead things he says (especially for a doctor -- all of whom are well-educated in our part of the world), I believe he is not only in error, but he knows he is in error. Anyone with that kind of qualification knows what sodium-chloride is, and all such people know how to speak to scientists and ask them what evidence means and how it should be presented.

As we've just proven, any materials scientist can easily identify this object as being of completely mundane origin.

Unfortunately again, pending further evidence, I fear that ATS may have uncovered a simple fraud (I mean the "Good Doctor", not the OP).
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ItsAnOddFuture

posted on Apr, 4 2011 @ 07:37 PM
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Originally posted by MissingRonnieR
Walk outside your moms basement. Find an ant hill. Look at the ant hill, kick the ant hill, take a pee on the ant hill. Walk back in to your moms basement and tell us how it changed your life. It did not.change your life, you are greater, smarter, and more powerful than the ants. There are NO ALEINS, they would not hide, or study, or kidnap you, they would kick your hill and wiz on you. This technology is government technlonogydesigned to control you, pure and simple.

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Or perhaps extraterrestrials have evolved beyond the need to be intrusive and destructive beings, and are simply monitoring us for whatever reasons. It doesn't really surprise me at all that people who work in private business associated with the government, would be monitored by these beings. There is so much that goes on behind the scenes that we don't know about and if extraterrestrials have any interest in us (which I believe they would because we now leave our planet and enter space), then they probably keep tabs on what goes on behind the scenes as well as in the public. That would be the reasoning for people being chipped by beings from outside of our planet.

sepermeru

posted on Apr, 4 2011 @ 07:49 PM
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Given that I'm sure you're aware that to say there is controversy over whether this condition exists is to vastly understate the issue, I think it's a bit sneaky to present this without disclaiming for the uninformed. I have no idea whether it's real, and wouldn't begin to try to figure that out, but I do know it's very misleading to present it as if it is a known and accepted disease.

romka71

posted on Apr, 4 2011 @ 09:51 PM
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well..i dont know what to say....looks real...but im not sure

hotbread

posted on Apr, 4 2011 @ 11:40 PM
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Originally posted by speculativeoptimist
I remember this guy and I am curious why no other doctors have found any of this stuff? He mentioned the surprise to find no inflammation around the sites, but I have suffered a Dick Cheney style shotgun blast to the side of my head and I have had steel pellets in my head and neck area for 20 + years with no inflammation. Still, the evidence provided in the vid is intriguing.
Wasn't there another surgical removal where the implant started moving when they tried to remove it?
Anyway, I am just surprised there are no other doctors with similar reports. And are there any other reports from other countries?

Peace,
spec
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No, this is story happens only in the usa, and only by DR Lier.
A smoking gun for scientific fraud.
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whiskyfuel010

posted on Apr, 5 2011 @ 12:32 AM
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Finally some proof!