Proof Of Alien Contact? Could This Be The Smoking Gun?

Originally posted by daveyboy1991


rofl! thats the funniest comment ive seen on ATS for a while, i really hope he posted that as a joke.

No friend it wasn't posted as a joke........you just interpreted what I said incorrectly.

reply to post by Nightchild
I can tell you why they are taking seamen and eggs, and producing hybrid children, But You are Not Going to Like It !! I have heard a lot of people say it is because they can't reproduce, or they need to populate their planet. Not .... It is this planet that is going to have to be repopulated. And plus they are trying bread out the war genes and replace them with spiritual genes. They know the future because they can also time travel.

Originally posted by coolottie
reply to post by Nightchild

 

I can tell you why they are taking seamen and eggs, and producing hybrid children, But You are Not Going to Like It !! I have heard a lot of people say it is because they can't reproduce, or they need to populate their planet. Not .... It is this planet that is going to have to be repopulated. And plus they are trying bread out the war genes and replace them with spiritual genes. They know the future because they can also time travel.

Is that your understanding/theory or do you have reason to believe that they are indeed doing this..
They do remove or capture semen but what they do with it is not known. You can feel yourself cum
but no wet pants or sheets when you wake up. In a wet dream there is always evidence
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FWIW nobody on here needs a smoking gun, we already know it to be true, but for the sake of the general public who have no interest in this subject and/or similar fail to believe in it then its great news!

Disclosure is here folks, Thousands of newly release UFO documents from 30s to 90s. Also some videos on youtube that was posted yesterday. Just google "FBI Vault" you can put in any date and find a whole batch of documents. I just can't get over the ATS debunkers, They are even trying to say the FBI Hoaxed all these documents. Well here are to videos released and posted on Youtube yesterday 4/9/11

Dr Lier might just of proved to the Skeptics that aliens exist.

Originally posted by Gorman91
reply to post by Magnus47

 

In all honesty the most likely scenario is that the man survived a run in with a meteor of some kind and did not know he was hit. Would not be the first time someone was shot and didn't know it.

A meteor that size would more than likely have burned up upon impacting the earths atmosphere and the chances of it NOT decentergrating is terribly small and almost too small to be noted..

But lets say it didn't. If it didn't then it would have at the very least been slowed down to terminal velocity and according to this calculator Terminal Velocity calc the object would have been traveling less than 70mph in which case it would have just bounced off of the skin.

But there is another scenario in which the object could have been traveling at a much greater speed. This scenario would be if a much larger meteor was to enter the atmosphere (one large enough to survive the entry into the atmosphere without being completely destroyed). In which case after this larger meteor inters the atmosphere but then explodes (as sometimes happens) or a small fragment breaks off after falling close to earth. At this point the fragment could still retain enough speed to penetrate the skin.

However someone that close to a meteor that has exploded would likely be peppered with many many bits not just one or two and would have undoubtedly remembered the incident. It would be a great story to tell their grand-children if in fact they survived.

Also a meteor big enough to survive the atmospheric burn for that long to get that close to earth in order for a small piece of it to still retain enough speed to penetrate your skin would have been extremely bright when standing that close to it and would NOT have been just forgotten like a small incident such as a near miss from a fast baseball. This scenario would have felt more like a near death situation.

So, thats my take on it. The information above and the fact that there are multiple accounts and none of them remember a near death situation by a meteor leads me to believe that this is not a meteor.

-Alien

reply to post by Alien Abduct


You are viewing it on Planet Earth. Clearly, it would have been larger in space. I think that's fail logic right there on the first statement. Clearly a rock on Earth from space would be smaller after falling through the atmosphere. The size you see there is the result, not the before.

In addition, the formula and calculator you used is irrelevant, for we do not know the initial size nor shape of the object. however, at 70 mph, it would have breached the skin. For it would have been hot, sharp, and fast.

If the rock did explode, it could have happened at any time. Men and women during atomic testing in the 50s were hit with chunks of radioactive particles from miles away. But that was a totally different situation. Point is, peppering does not necessitate all particles go in the same direction at the same density. In fact its density decreases the further you get from the blast. This is why a grenade doesn't kill you from a certain distance.

You would not be standing next to it. A single chunk accelerated from the blast could have flown miles away, hit something, and lodged itself into the man, all in his sleep. No different than a stray bullet from a parade of insane Palestinians shooting into the air landing miles away into the head of a small child sleeping calmly.


Sorry, but nothing you stated counters the high likelihood of this situation.

reply to post by Angelic Resurrection
I had eggs removed with a needle and I still have a red mark where they took them out.
That was in 1989. So many crazy things are going on in this world, I wonder if we will even make it to 2012.

reply to post by CarlitosAmsel
The technology of implants, is not something our government could do even 20 years ago. Implants are part biological, some unknown metal and crystal. Plus most have them in parts of the brain that would not even be able to remove them. Plus they can tell everything that is going on in the body, heartrate, blood pressure, infections, fever, everything. I hope someone figures out how to make those, because it would save a lot of lives. Oh, but then the public would never get them anyway. All, the Bushes and Chaneys would have them.

This was from the documentary Close Encounters: Proof of Alien Contact. It was made in 2000 I'm surprised people are just finding out about it now.

Originally posted by Itop1
Just remember.... an alien could slap some skeptics in the face, and they still wouldn't believe it

Sometimes you have to wonder.

Honestly, I don't fault most people for believing UFOs have a more terrestrial explanation. You can make anyone think twice by showing them the mounting evidence.... however, why most people shy away from what could be the most fantastic thing ever is beyond me? They could be part of a generation that stops shooting at the unknown and starts acting more mature and asking more questions. Perhaps official contact or at least a nicer fly over so we can all see their cool craft. I don't think that happens very often in the universe. The humans become self-aware!

Originally posted by Gorman91
reply to post by Alien Abduct

 

You are viewing it on Planet Earth. Clearly, it would have been larger in space. I think that's fail logic right there on the first statement. Clearly a rock on Earth from space would be smaller after falling through the atmosphere. The size you see there is the result, not the before.

In addition, the formula and calculator you used is irrelevant, for we do not know the initial size nor shape of the object. however, at 70 mph, it would have breached the skin. For it would have been hot, sharp, and fast.

If the rock did explode, it could have happened at any time. Men and women during atomic testing in the 50s were hit with chunks of radioactive particles from miles away. But that was a totally different situation. Point is, peppering does not necessitate all particles go in the same direction at the same density. In fact its density decreases the further you get from the blast. This is why a grenade doesn't kill you from a certain distance.

You would not be standing next to it. A single chunk accelerated from the blast could have flown miles away, hit something, and lodged itself into the man, all in his sleep. No different than a stray bullet from a parade of insane Palestinians shooting into the air landing miles away into the head of a small child sleeping calmly.


Sorry, but nothing you stated counters the high likelihood of this situation.

I was going to respond with another detailed explanation but I think I put it as simple as I can. If you fail to understand the correct logic of which I explained then maybe you need to take a course on physics. I said my part take it or leave it. Everyone is free to make their own choices even if its the wrong one. Goodbye

-Alien

reply to post by Alien Abduct


How so? You are arguing from as if the rock would not be affected by several miles of atmospheric entry.

If you claim something wrong, you must supply why. i have supplied why you are wrong, and you have not replied as to it.

reply to post by Gorman91


Oh did I? Well lets have a look at the post that you are referring to........

A meteor that size would more than likely have burned up upon impacting the earths atmosphere

If it didn't then it would have at the very least been slowed down to terminal velocity..

Slowed down by what? oh ya umm the earths atmosphere...

This scenario would be if a much larger meteor was to enter the atmosphere (one large enough to survive the entry into the atmosphere without being completely destroyed).

In which case after this larger meteor inters the atmosphere.......

Also a meteor big enough to survive the atmospheric burn.......

And I guess while I'm at it I will point out another thing you said that I didn't take into account. You said that the density of the matter would decrease as you get further away from the explosion. You are correct. that is why I said this.....

However someone that close to a meteor that has exploded would likely be peppered with many many bits not just one or two

Keep in mind the atmosphere will slow down the object drastically as it moves away from the explosion, therefore for the object to be traveling at such speed as to penetrate the skin you would need to be within close proximity to the explosion thus being within this close proximity you would more than likely have more than one or two pieces embedded into your skin because as you pointed out (which only solidified my original argument) the closer you get to the explosion the closer the particles are to each other (the more there are to hit you).

Furthermore, you would remember a very extremely bright "shooting star" that seemed like it was going to kill you. It would have been a very shocking experience.

I am not ruling out the possibility 100% that this can not be a piece of a meteor but I am showing how with the provided evidence this scenario is very extremely unlikely (part of this argument is based on the fact that no one reported seeing a "shooting star" or even remembered being struck by a meteor) keep in mind there is more than one incident at issue here and this argument is not based on just a single incident. The fact that no one in the cases provided mentioned being struck by a rock from outer-space underscores my argument.


-Alien

Originally posted by LBliss
reply to post by Itop1

 

Precisely! an alien could land in front of a skeptic and he would refute it and claim it was a bird or something silly. Many skeptics are simply scared to admit that there could in actual fact be life out there and goverments are keeping this under wraps because it would have huge ratifications in regards to society and especially religion.

Do you know what a skeptic is? Here's a definition: A person who questions the validity or authenticity of something purporting to be factual.

Note the fourth from last word: purporting.

In other words, a skeptic is the total opposite of gullible.

Anyway, back on topic. Maybe this has been reported already, but do you know that one of the 'alien' implants, found in a comstruction worker, was simply a piece of a drill tip? Makes you wonder about the so called expertise of the good doctor...

reply to post by Alien Abduct


1: Not all space rocks are the same size. They do, however, assuming similar material, decay at the same rate. A rock of x mass might burn up. A mass of x+1 might have a small amount left. There is where you are wrong. You are not recognizing the wide diversity of rocks from space.

2: A bullet sized and shaped rock, such as this one, will remain quite speedy and able to kill someone. This is why a bullet fired up will regain its speed once it makes contact with the grown. If what you said was true, people would not die from bullets fired into the air.

3: You would not see a shooting star. You would be asleep and under your house and not notice it. Do you wake up for every car that passes by? I do not. Their lights are quite bright sometimes. And sometimes look like they are going to hit you.

Sorry, but you've yet to supply a reason why it would not be a rock from space, the far more likely scenario, than aliens coming light years just to pop a rock into the man's face.

Look up operation paperclip. Was this guy American? You have to ask yourself, why do they experiment on Americans? Why dont they grab some aboreginee or something like that, far less hassle. Think of what it took for the American goverment to admit to MKULTRA an experiment conducted on its own citizens. There is no telling what they did before, or after. We are talking about a country which willfully exposed its soldiers to nuclear fallout, to see what happens.

I would be intrigued, do we find patients with "implants" elsewhere, or are the Americans the favourite Guinea pigs of the "aliens".

Gorman
IMHO
bringing palistien into this thread is just sad

no wonder the aliens don't want some people to know they are here
those people have been left out of the loop for a reason


in different cultures they may be symbolized as religious or spirit figures and so not dealt with in the same way at all as the american way
which suggests a more successfull integration...
no need for disclosure when they have been interacting all along