Proof Of Alien Contact? Could This Be The Smoking Gun?

Hi Guys!
At the outset I would like to mention I’m a skeptic (Not a debunker) and do not believe that we have been or are being visited by ET intelligences unless and until there is incontrovertible evidence/proof.

That said, I was intrigued when I chanced upon this video that apparently showed a doctor removing an ‘alien’ implant. For the first time, a doctor in the United States has come out with evidence that he claims is proof of alien visitations to Earth. This surgery has attracted world wide attention.

Who is Dr Roger Leir, DPM?

Dr Leir, DPM, is a surgeon from Southern California who has been performing operations on patients for over 30 years. He is a Podiatric Surgeon and has acted as Chief of Podiatry in many Southern California hospitals.

He lectures internationally on many medical subjects, and is a medical consultant to MUFON International. In the video he shows his most incredible and highly unusual finding, both biological and metallurgical, and presents the results from multiple independent scientific laboratories on the analysis of the implants!

Not just any lab, but Los Alamos National Laboratory, New Mexico Tech and the University of California, Santiago have analyzed this particular implant and have come to some astounding conclusions.

Amazingly, on analysis with a scanning electron microscope at NMT Laboratory, it was found that the implant WAS CONNECTED TO THE PATIENT’S NERVE ENDINGS! It was also covered by unidentifiable biological material that prevented ‘rejection’ by the patient’s immune system.


Implant connected to the patient’s nerve endings as
seen through the electron microscope.

What’s more the lab tests conducted by NMT were corroborated by The University of California, Santiago which concluded that:

THE METALS AND THEIR COMBINATIONS IN THE IMPLANT WERE MANUFACTURED AND EXTRATERRESTRIAL IN ORIGIN.

Here’s the actual video of the implant being removed by Dr Roger Leir, DPM …



“The evidence is overwhelming, the implications are staggering….”

Now what do skeptics like me here on ATS, make of it? Is it the Smoking gun? Why doesn’t the MSM come out with such accounts and accord it more publicity? Oh, of course I know already! The escapades of Lindsey Lohan and Charlie Sheen are more important to them, and who’s wearing what at the Oscars, right?

Originally posted by OrionHunterX
Not just any lab, but Los Alamos National Laboratory, New Mexico Tech and the University of California, Santiago have analyzed this particular implant and have come to some astounding conclusions. ..........

What’s more the lab tests conducted by NMT were corroborated by The University of California, Santiago which concluded that:

THE METALS AND THEIR COMBINATIONS IN THE IMPLANT WAS MANUFACTURED AND EXTRATERRESTRIAL IN ORIGIN.

Did they? Care to show us where that is stated on their websites.... or show us exactly where they have documented that silly claim.

Why doesn’t the MSM come out with such accounts and accord it more publicity?

Accord what more publicity? Show us the report from the Universities where they state what you claim

Dr. Lier makes perfect sense, and has the proof to prove it. So here on ATS, he is very much hated.

Much like John Lear.

I've never seen this before, but wow, i mean, how can a debunker or skeptic refute this? I respect the author of this thread for putting this forward being a skeptic, and hope it changes your mind, because this a very important topic. Star, and Flag for you!

Just remember.... an alien could slap some skeptics in the face, and they still wouldn't believe it

Originally posted by dereks

Originally posted by OrionHunterX
Not just any lab, but Los Alamos National Laboratory, New Mexico Tech and the University of California, Santiago have analyzed this particular implant and have come to some astounding conclusions. ..........

What’s more the lab tests conducted by NMT were corroborated by The University of California, Santiago which concluded that:

THE METALS AND THEIR COMBINATIONS IN THE IMPLANT WAS MANUFACTURED AND EXTRATERRESTRIAL IN ORIGIN.

Did they? Care to show us where that is stated on their websites.... or show us exactly where they have documented that silly claim.

Why doesn’t the MSM come out with such accounts and accord it more publicity?

Accord what more publicity? Show us the report from the Universities where they state what you claim

www.aliens-everything-you-want-to-know.com...
Check this out, is has a Microscopic picture of the implant and also lots more information

' Complete, unedited videotapes of the surgeries to remove the implants are available from Dr. Leir, who can be contacted on the web through MUFON, Ventura, California, at www.jetlink.ne/~mcorrado/.

Dr. Leir is board-certified by many boards, including The American Board of Foot Surgeons and the National College of Foot Surgeons. He has addressed many groups of physicians, including 250 surgeons and doctors at John Muir Hospital. He feels the most potent evidence of human/alien contact is to be found in the medical records of patients.'

Originally posted by holtdani
www.aliens-everything-you-want-to-know.com...

No sign of any official reports from the Universities there....

So just why are people unable to show the reports from the Universities that did the testing? Unless they never actually tested them!

The video was more than 8 months old, but still no reports....

Originally posted by dereks

Originally posted by holtdani
www.aliens-everything-you-want-to-know.com...

No sign of any official reports from the Universities there....

So just why are people unable to show the reports from the Universities that did the testing? Unless they never actually tested them!

The video was more than 8 months old, but still no reports....

edit on 3/4/11 by dereks because: (no reason given)

imaginativeworlds.com...

He Is at The Universtity

Originally posted by holtdani
imaginativeworlds.com...

He Is at The Universtity

From that website "Odd that I can't find out what the test results on these were anywhere. Interesting that this research in investigation in this clip was done at the University of Toronto. I've googled all kinds of combinations and I can't find anything that spells out the results of these tests. Has anyone read or heard anything about these specific tests?"

So no one there can find the results of the claimed tests.... funny that!

Originally posted by dereks

Originally posted by holtdani
imaginativeworlds.com...

He Is at The Universtity

From that website "Odd that I can't find out what the test results on these were anywhere. Interesting that this research in investigation in this clip was done at the University of Toronto. I've googled all kinds of combinations and I can't find anything that spells out the results of these tests. Has anyone read or heard anything about these specific tests?"

So no one there can find the results of the claimed tests.... funny that!

edit on 3/4/11 by dereks because: (no reason given)

Results:
www.alienscalpel.com...
www.alienscalpel.com...

He has performed many surgeries to remove foreign objects from people, specifically those claiming to have had some form of ET contact of which they may or may not remember entirely. In at least one case he claims to have measured 2 frequencies in the MHz range coming from the object to be removed. Once the object was removed the transmission stopped. But nothing more was said about the mechanism for transmission, only that it seemed to be powered by the host's body itself.

What the doctor needs right now is corroborating testimony and evidence from other doctors around the world who have removed anomolous objects from people, as well as detailed analyses of these objects pre and post-op. This would improve the credibility of his claims and also those people claiming to have been abducted by 'ET's and experimented on. The 'smoking gun' (or at least one of the smoking guns) would be if we discovered a new anti-rejection technique/method from this. It would make medical history!

All in all, something I find interesting is that we have been searching for the presence of ET in these band ranges for quite some time now, and nothing definitive has been discovered. Yet, supposedly, transmissions may be happening right under our noses.

reply to post by dereks


First of all, do you know if they're required by law to release the results of their testing? Is there a law that says they must release a report? Knowing how anything related to UFO's or Aliens is frowned upon or questioned, I would think a university wouldn't want to tarnish their reputation over something so controversial and take the chance of being attacked by the main street media. Does our government release any kind of testing reports that could cause panic or criminal investigations? Do you believe all the reports on Japan's radiation leaks are accurate? Remember the report of the 9/11 dust by are own government saying there was no dangerous air born particles in the air?

A&S Research Inc

Is his business

And there are results above,

Originally posted by holtdani
Results:
www.alienscalpel.com...
www.alienscalpel.com...

Nothing in those "results" shows THE METALS AND THEIR COMBINATIONS IN THE IMPLANT WAS MANUFACTURED AND EXTRATERRESTRIAL IN ORIGIN.

So where are the results that show that they are alien in origin....

Originally posted by dereks

Originally posted by holtdani
Results:
www.alienscalpel.com...
www.alienscalpel.com...

Nothing in those "results" shows THE METALS AND THEIR COMBINATIONS IN THE IMPLANT WAS MANUFACTURED AND EXTRATERRESTRIAL IN ORIGIN.

So where are the results that show that they are alien in origin....

Im sorry, can you really understand what these results are telling you?
I dont, If somebody does can you explain what it is showing?

I fear the only way that the media will cover these types of stories is if aliens showed up and took a crap in Lindsay Lohan's front yard.

Originally posted by dereks

Originally posted by holtdani
Results:
www.alienscalpel.com...
www.alienscalpel.com...

Nothing in those "results" shows THE METALS AND THEIR COMBINATIONS IN THE IMPLANT WAS MANUFACTURED AND EXTRATERRESTRIAL IN ORIGIN.

So where are the results that show that they are alien in origin....

And Also the Lab reports you ask for, will not end in a conclusion of alien intelligence.
The reports are to back these claims and to find out what it is actually made of, and its structure
If your looking for a University report that is a detail examination of the properties of the object
This is a different report to the one stating the origin of the object, you can only make this valid conclusion
on the properties of the object, This is what the Lab report shows you, not the origin of different chemicals?

I'm the opposite of the OP, to an extent. I know there are disc shaped craft flying around because I saw one fairly close up. Who manufactures and flys them? I have no idea.
But I have my doubts about this implant stuff. I just don't get why these implant always seem to come from the hands or feet. These are the areas most likely to have foreign bodies in them anyway. I would think, since they are areas with a lot of flexibility and motion, items embedded in the skin would be more likely to cause discomfort and be detectable. Why not put the implant between the shoulder blades or something. Or why not just implant it deeper, beyond the skin? And why is there not a standard spot? You would think they would pick a spot where these things would remain undetected and undisturbed.

Originally posted by Kaiju
I'm the opposite of the OP, to an extent. I know there are disc shaped craft flying around because I saw one fairly close up. Who manufactures and flys them? I have no idea.
But I have my doubts about this implant stuff. I just don't get why these implant always seem to come from the hands or feet. These are the areas most likely to have foreign bodies in them anyway. I would think, since they are areas with a lot of flexibility and motion, items embedded in the skin would be more likely to cause discomfort and be detectable. Why not put the implant between the shoulder blades or something. Or why not just implant it deeper, beyond the skin? And why is there not a standard spot? You would think they would pick a spot where these things would remain undetected and undisturbed.

'You would think they would pick a spot where these things would remain undetected and undisturbed.'

Undetected and Undisturbed is very very hard to put into practice, I mean think about the technology we now have, and will continue to increase at a huge rate, I mean undetected, in the human body in the year 2011
I find it hard to believe, also being only around 15 removed, it is hard to base an opinion on positioning on this small amount when there is a huge amount of information including university reports saying otherwise. This man Lier is a Doctor and a clever man, so are the universities that tested it, and the machinery used, we know this because we use them everyday, I mean when a person says they have been abducted, they go to get a scan, an object is in fact there, you go to lier to get the object taken out, he sends it to the lab for processing, the object was connected to nerve endings as many Doctors explain in countless videos, is this not enough proof,, against what you state that 15 objects have been taken out from different places in the body so therefore as they are not deeper into the body, you find it hard to believe?

Originally posted by Kaiju
I'm the opposite of the OP, to an extent. I know there are disc shaped craft flying around because I saw one fairly close up. Who manufactures and flys them? I have no idea.
But I have my doubts about this implant stuff. I just don't get why these implant always seem to come from the hands or feet. These are the areas most likely to have foreign bodies in them anyway. I would think, since they are areas with a lot of flexibility and motion, items embedded in the skin would be more likely to cause discomfort and be detectable. Why not put the implant between the shoulder blades or something. Or why not just implant it deeper, beyond the skin? And why is there not a standard spot? You would think they would pick a spot where these things would remain undetected and undisturbed.

Assuming they have studied us for a long time, you can't assume they know everything about us because they fly around space and are capable of developing such technology and on that note, you can't assume they are smart, just before you go there. But... I can see where you are coming from!

Jamie