Proof Of Alien Contact? Could This Be The Smoking Gun?

Nice someone putting and reminding us about Dr.Leir.

I'm from Istanbul and we have two UFO research centers as far as I know. One of the oldest and most respected one is; Sirius Space and UFO Research Center, which Haktan Akdogan is in charge. He and his team made several conferences (international ones and had many guests), they made the first UFO museum here and they have a large network. Haktan Akdogan goes MSM here in a regular basis once in two months. I have been following his talks and researchs for over 10 years now. This year he bring Dr.Leir to Istanbul to have some patients operated. He mentioned that on a TV program he was on. He said there were around 7 (as far as i remember) patients waiting for the operation and got the chips out. I didn't heard anything after this news, which was over a month ago. I believe as a sceptic Dr.Leir is real, or a big big disinfo project been going on with local UFO guys in different countries coordinated from somewhere else (But why? NWO thing again? I got bored of it a little, yes it also seems true according to some evidence shown up on here ATS but I find it hard to believe the conspiracy as a whole, world wide campaign with on going on many different subjects like; government, banks, UFO researchers, etc). Haktan is a well known local researcher, he did either many international projects or contributed to other ones. But for us in Turkey he is a local and I believe he can't make this kind of things up for over 10 years (This also applies to all other researchers in the field for a long long time).

So now we know that Dr.Leir is actually being booked for operations to take out the chips from people in different countries I guess. Now the main question is; why is this couldn't go big on MSM yet? I know several news made reports about that, but the impact was minimum compared to the idea and the news itself. Isn't it?

Most likely military cybernetics experiments. No evidence of it being manufactured extraterrestrial.

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I think Turkish Military is far back compared to US in all cybernetics, secret projects, super soldier projects that kind of researches, tests or else. They have many realtime threats on going because of the location closeness to middle east, recent changes and neverending wars and unrest. They are doing less researches and more buying weapons/sending troops things to fight terror (PKK) to the east part of Turkey. We have two desks in two different sections of the government about UFOs (which Haktan Akdogan is told so, and I was surprised to have even one that kind of desk in the government thou). If US military was testing subjects outside their country that is something I can only buy, but I've not heard anything about this happening here, please if someone knows that US military is making researches or tests on people in other countries link me with some info. Thanks.

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Because I can:

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Hope the links work, and there is some comment about what they are? Some details:

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The 'dust' presentation is a composite of several pieces of dust, compiled to give an overview of the objects. The glare and light flaring could not be avoided. The glare and flare is not part of the nature of the objects.

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The US may not be the only country experimenting with cybernetics. And Turkey may be experimenting with it secretly, you may not know about it.

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Yes but I believe if that's is the case and I don't know about it, at least a conspiracy should emerge in at least fake news channels here? But there is none. Even not a theory or a single mention as far as I know. If this can happen without any info leak or not even make it a conspiracy news at hoax sites, then we should reconsider whole a load of conspiracies that have a decent back up info compared. This also does not mean that it is now the case or not. its just that me thinking and writing at the same time.

Originally posted by Ewok_Boba

Originally posted by OrionHunterX
.....and the University of California, Santiago have analyzed this particular implant and have come to some astounding conclusions.

I have never heard of that. I've heard of University of California San Diego? I go there hehe.

I've already corrected it in one of my previous post! Here it is...

Originally posted by OrionHunterX

Originally posted by Asktheanimals
Pretty interesting stuff!
Small correction Orion - it's the University of California at San Diego (not Santiago)

Apologies Ata! It's San Diego! Thanks for pointing it out!

So there!!

Originally posted by THE_PROFESSIONAL
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The US may not be the only country experimenting with cybernetics. And Turkey may be experimenting with it secretly, you may not know about it.

It is my understanding that every military has got their own box of tricks, they are working on, unknown to the public or the msm

I will personaly submit this story, to the media! And have it showcased, through 5k + media outlets, Thank you for bringing this to my attention.

Originally posted by THE_PROFESSIONAL
Most likely military cybernetics experiments. No evidence of it being manufactured extraterrestrial.

can everything be brushed off, with this kind of crap ? I'm so sick of 1 liners that almost debunk an entire thread
not discrediting what you said pro, you could be right, but you need to have an open mind some times my friend. not everything comes down to a coverup, or can be throwen away because of them.

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Whilst the video is intriguing and holds much mystery in my opinion it does not prove that the foreign object removed has anything to do with extraterrestrials. More extensive research is needed in order to draw a concrete conclusion.

There is much that goes on around this world without us knowing about it, for all we know it could have been put there by us humans.

Does anyone have any links to the original response that Dr Leir got from the lab he sent the sample to, rather than a pan shot of a three by two inch section of it?

Originally posted by THE_PROFESSIONAL
Most likely military cybernetics experiments. No evidence of it being manufactured extraterrestrial.

That's what I thought when I heard about this too. In my opinion, it's certainly a possible explanation. I don't know a lot about the topic though, so I don't discount the possibility that they're extraterrestrial in origin.

Either way, this is quite an interesting topic, star & flag for the OP

Originally posted by jonnywhite

Don't eat BS. It's bad for you brain.

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there is MUCH proof of alien contact, intervention, genetic modifications, hybridizations, etc ALL over the place, and it is right in your face if you care to look for it. your not going to find it on ATS though.

i use to come to ATS daily to check out the latest info on whatever. that was until i figured out the whole Nibiru thing (i posted a thread on it if anyone cares to look, just click on my member name and look it up-im too lazy to get the link, sorry , also i don't have to do everything for you...). since that time this is my first visit back, and it's so obvious now that ATS is just a distraction site dedicated to keeping people running in circles, and not knowing what to believe.

anyone that wants to know the truth about whatever it is that is questioning you i urge you to do research, and not look for the answers on well known forums like ATS - not that ATS isn't good for a chuckle once in a blue moon, and i am not bashing ATS as it did start me on my journey of figuring out the truth....

that being said, stay on ATS for more 'conditioning', or do your own research to stay one step ahead.... take my message to mean whatever you wish, but know that unlike other things you will read on this site, there is truth is my post.

take care.

Originally posted by prodomino
I will personaly submit this story, to the media! And have it showcased, through 5k + media outlets, Thank you for bringing this to my attention.

You have THAT much pull.. and you chose THIS story??

I apologize for the one liner, but..


Cheers,
Strype

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Sorry but I am one of the Master debunkers here I have assisted in the debunking of a few threads so far I just don't want you to believe the media brainwashing into believing aliens in the sense of extraterrestrials exist. I want you to rather believe extradimensional beings such as angel's and jinns exist, because they are true and they can take on the "grey" form and fool you to believe they are aliens. TPTB are brainwashing you to think that these jinns are the actual aliens. Do not fall for the tricks. I stand by my assertion that this is a military cybernetics experiment

The last UFO/alien video I helped debunk was was the alien video, a few others as well. My only purpose is to debunk any and all UFO videos. It is the only reason I joined. I was sent back in time for that express purpose. It is my mission.

Originally posted by prodomino

Originally posted by THE_PROFESSIONAL
Most likely military cybernetics experiments. No evidence of it being manufactured extraterrestrial.

can everything be brushed off, with this kind of crap ? I'm so sick of 1 liners that almost debunk an entire thread

not discrediting what you said pro, you could be right, but you need to have an open mind some times my friend. not everything comes down to a coverup, or can be throwen away because of them.

Wauw. This reply really shows how bad ATS has become.

Why don't we just up the ante then, and envision that this whatever-it-is, is made by cyborg bunnies, with lasers, from Dimension X? They btw created the universe one day, because 1 equals 1, and it was a sunday.

I feel extremely skeptical about this one he found multiple 'alien' implants? In several patients.? Wouldn't other doctors be finding these too then with X-Rays from random people who may have got abducted and never told about it? He obviously didn't perform surgery on every possible abducted person in the world. This just doesn't add up

But who knows i believe its possible for Aliens to be monitoring and observing us; I'm just not certain if they are ... yet.

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THE_PROFESSIONAL
I just don't want you to believe the media brainwashing into believing aliens in the sense of extraterrestrials exist.

Really , all the media coverage I've seen regarding UFO's is normally tongue in cheek .

THE_PROFESSIONAL
I want you to rather believe extradimensional beings such as angel's and jinns exist, because they are true and they can take on the "grey" form and fool you to believe they are aliens.

So angel's and jinns exist but extraterrestrial biological entities don't , Isn't it more the fact that you have been conditioned to believe in angel's and jinns by religion .

My only purpose is to debunk any and all UFO videos. It is the only reason I joined. I was sent back in time for that express purpose. It is my mission.

So you are not here to find the truth , your only purpose is to debunk all UFO videos regardless of whether the video shows an anomalous object , you're just here to debunk .
Seems pretty closed minded to me , as for the sent back in time bit I assume that was a joke ....or was it ?