Proof Of Alien Contact? Could This Be The Smoking Gun?

Originally posted by dereks

Originally posted by holtdani
imaginativeworlds.com...

He Is at The Universtity

From that website "Odd that I can't find out what the test results on these were anywhere. Interesting that this research in investigation in this clip was done at the University of Toronto. I've googled all kinds of combinations and I can't find anything that spells out the results of these tests. Has anyone read or heard anything about these specific tests?"

So no one there can find the results of the claimed tests.... funny that!

edit on 3/4/11 by dereks because: (no reason given)

cool. I can't find the test results of my knee surgery from when I was 16 on my hospitol's website......There is no official report on their site anywhere and no results.....Does this mean it never happened ?

Is that what you are trying to tell us all here ?

seriously.......wow

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I think you should read the thread first, most of the things you wrote about were already discussed.

Originally posted by MissingRonnieR
Lets play Spock. Logic dictates that if Aleins travel here then they have capabilities far beyond our own. By this point in time they have a knowledge of our species sufficant to realize that we are no threat. There are no Aleins. These are all government sponsored technology. The UFO's are ours.There is no logical rational for Alein life not making themselves fully known.

Out of a billion planets and a billion galaxies, not mentioning that water and vegetation at some point was on every planet in our galaxy.
Human’s brains only take them as far as the eye can see, so the average thinking human evolves from birth to the age one is now, by sight.

Then you have Humans that think on an archaeologist level, and they look at the oldest dinosaur the oldest human found and bones and carbonating rocks. Which will lead your brain evolving to that time?
5 to100million years tops, in evolving your own determination and brain responding to the frequencies of the past.

Just to make this short, we are missing 4.5billion years of every day life. When life, water, trees and other aspects of life thrived on all planets. Not mentioning a 100 billion years of the galaxy, on a hundred billion other planets, in a hundred billion days of life.

But if you think it’s no such thing as aliens then so be it, they might not be aliens in green suits or alien monsters…but it is other life out in the galaxy, mathematically, its impossible for it not to be

Is this the last planet or the first?

Originally posted by B4Truth
this is some scary stuff people what if it is actually true !!!!!!!!

What if removing the implant means you are no longer one of the chosen?

He can't be a fruit cake or his license would be revoked any info on that?

I actualy believe I have an implant.

I do not like to debunk. My comment has more to do with how things are done.
First of all having been in the field of Medicine for many years I will tell you right now.
A Podiatrist will never...ever perform surgery on someones face. They are specialists only in their field. Period.
They do surgery only from below the knee down. This man is board certified: In Podiatry:
No one goes to a podiatrist to have their face worked on. Neither does a heart patient go to a Podiatrist.
The key to this is simple. If he is certified it is in podiatry. He would be stepping outside his specialty to do surgery on anything but lower legs and feet. He isn't certified for anything above the knees that I have been able to determine.
If he is performing non certified surgery that right there is an important message to everyone. So as much as I would love to believe this, I simply cannot.
There is a problem here that is very basic. A foot surgeon would never operate on someones face. It just isn't done.
What I saw of the first video was facial surgery.
I read several pages of posts skimming looking to see if anyone noticed this little problem and I didn't see any posts so if I missed it and someone has already mentioned please ignore my rant.

Originally posted by GodIsPissed
"Meteorite hit him in the face without knowing"

lol are you serious?If you drop a penny off the Empire state building it could kill someone...meteorites come from space lol.

Don't you watch Mythbusters? That myth was busted - the terminal velocity of the penny was far too small to do any damage, so i'm guessin a small bit of rock wouldn't even be able to break the skin!

As for this thread, meh, as much as I'd like to think this is proof of something I really don't think it is. I've no evidence to back up my opinion, just a gut-feeling, and that rarely lets me down

Peace out

Originally posted by Char-Lee

Originally posted by B4Truth
this is some scary stuff people what if it is actually true !!!!!!!!

What if removing the implant means you are no longer one of the chosen?

It wasn’t about being chosen, they was trying to control the humans, so that one day they could control you all.
But when it was discovered in a facility called dueci, bush chose to go to war with them.
So instead of implants, they created a center called harp, elf, and other fairy tale names they give themselves to distinguish them selves amongst there kind.

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Its neither fact or opinion,i talk in %, i never will say anything under a 98% rate of truthfulness,if its in the 97% range or lower,it will be noted.

So how do you justify this "98% truthfulness" ?....where is your evidence?.........to my mind you are stating an opinion that you consider to be 98% true.......but you have no actual proof......yes?

I'm sure that is a clip out of a bad movie. Or some college students project for school. Come on. With today's advancements in special effects it's not difficult to make this stuff. I probably would have to have one slap in me in face in today's age with all the technology available. Then I would believe it After I broke its jaw. Or exoskeleton. Too many people have tried too hard making up fake stuff in the past. I know it's possible. But I would have to see it with my own eyes. Think about the B2 Bomber there's a good example. How many people spent 10-15 years of their lives CONVINCED they saw a space ship from outer space. Right up until they released it too the public. If there is other live forms out there I doubt they have evolved anymore than us and don't have the technology to travel far enough to visit us either. I'd love to see the Cutting edge stuff the military has now. I bet it really looks like a spacecraft. Heck it probably is one. Just my thoughts

Originally posted by Argyll
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Its neither fact or opinion,i talk in %, i never will say anything under a 98% rate of truthfulness,if its in the 97% range or lower,it will be noted.

So how do you justify this "98% truthfulness" ?....where is your evidence?.........to my mind you are stating an opinion that you consider to be 98% true.......but you have no actual proof......yes?

My self and my medical records is the only proof i need.other then that ,no.
but will always be willing to do a lie detector test if you wont one done live on the ats if it can be done.

if you can make it happen i will not hestitae,the only thing i have in this word is my word and my....

Originally posted by OrionHunterX Dr Leir, DPM, is a surgeon from Southern California who has been performing operations on patients for over 30 years. He is a Podiatric Surgeon and has acted as Chief of Podiatry in many Southern California hospitals. Not just any lab, but Los Alamos National Laboratory, New Mexico Tech and the University of California, Santiago have analyzed this particular implant and have come to some astounding conclusions. Amazingly, on analysis with a scanning electron microscope at NMT Laboratory, it was found that the implant WAS CONNECTED TO THE PATIENT’S NERVE ENDINGS! It was also covered by unidentifiable biological material that prevented ‘rejection’ by the patient’s immune system. Implant connected to the patient’s nerve endings as seen through the electron microscope. What’s more the lab tests conducted by NMT were corroborated by The University of California, Santiago which concluded that: THE METALS AND THEIR COMBINATIONS IN THE IMPLANT WERE MANUFACTURED AND EXTRATERRESTRIAL IN ORIGIN.

And, wait for it, the smoking gun.

Waiting.

Waiting.

Ok, folks, use common sense. We have tech nowadays, but ten years ago they didn't. Of course an implant of that time would be that big. Nowadays, our implants would be much smaller, and yes, the aliens with ultimate tech would have even smaller ones. This is called the cell-phone paradox. Cell phones started off as huge blocky objects, got smaller and smaller, then settled on a mediocre size. Aliens follow that law, and implant devices given their current level of tech, uhm, meaning the things that get implanted are things that are, what, too small or too big? What's the ratio they use for their current level of tech? I'd think they'd be using holograms by now. Nanowafers at least, at least, nothing bigger, because.....

.......wait for it.

Our tech has advanced on an exponential scale. It'd be reasonable to assume any intelligent race would proceed accordingly. We've had about 400 years, they, whew, how do you calculate that? Factor in interstellar drives, portals, etc, and yes, they'd be way advanced in both physics and biological chemistry. They wouldn't leave TURDS under our skin, surely, but something we couldn't detect.

Basic premise, intelligence proceeds at an exponential rate within any civilization, and miniaturization proceeds at a similar ratio. Intelligence causes efficiency, which offsets the third law of thermodynamics.

The better we are, the better we become. An advanced alien race would not have to use 1970's tech for an implant, they would have their own, more advanced. SIGH!

Originally posted by modo302
reply to post by OrionHunterX

 

This Dr. Roger Leir has supposedly done many an operation or has simply observed/managed these operations of removal of some type of implants for some time. It seems to me that if there were anything substantial about these implants or whatever they may be, that they would have hit the MSM. Believe it or not the MSM is geared for ratings. The more ratings, the more advertising dollars. If this were something they could use to increase ratings they would surely use it, just as long as it did not come back to bite them so to speak. What I mean is that they (MSM) would use this story to draw more viewers if they thought it would not come back to make them look like they were incompetent reporters and just glamorizing conspiracy theories.

There is the posibility that they are forbiden to panic the sheep. Just think how many people would panic if they thought there was total proof we are being tagged and sorted or tracked.

All I got to say is RFID, lol nnah maybe it is alien, or maybe dude got hit with a meteor while he was sleepin.

Originally posted by JerryB08
I'm sure that is a clip out of a bad movie. Or some college students project for school. Come on. With today's advancements in special effects it's not difficult to make this stuff. I probably would have to have one slap in me in face in today's age with all the technology available. Then I would believe it After I broke its jaw. Or exoskeleton. Too many people have tried too hard making up fake stuff in the past. I know it's possible. But I would have to see it with my own eyes. Think about the B2 Bomber there's a good example. How many people spent 10-15 years of their lives CONVINCED they saw a space ship from outer space. Right up until they released it too the public. If there is other live forms out there I doubt they have evolved anymore than us and don't have the technology to travel far enough to visit us either. I'd love to see the Cutting edge stuff the military has now. I bet it really looks like a spacecraft. Heck it probably is one. Just my thoughts

If he is really a dr at a university that would ruin his career, why would he do it?

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Anyone who knows anything about the medical field would simply say HIPPA. You can't release patient infromation to the general public without patient consent. At the beginning of the video the doctor clearly states that the patient does not what to be known. Patients results are most likely what are on the specimen results.


If you go to a hospital and have a tumor removed they send it to specific labs to be tested, and yes their are labs outside your county that are better. The results for your tumor are YOURS, not public information. That is why you will not see these results UNLESS a patient consents to it.

This isn't proof of alien contact, or the smoking gun your looking for. This video or situation or whatever you want to call it is about 3-4 years old. I have to remind myself to not get super excited when someone posts something so misleading. It doesn't matter how much metal he has in his jaw, it wouldn't even matter if he had "Extra-Terrestrial Organs", because unless its on the news no one will ever care but the members of ATS. (Excluding the Super-Skeptics that still think the earth is flat)

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Well . . . It's not associated with the US's UC system . . . additional links to UC programs in link.
Other UC locations

Partnerships between UC schools and Chilean Universities . . .
Collabrative work

Study abroad programs with UC tie-in at Chilean Universities . . .
study abroad

When you search for University of California Ccucp on the web . . .
google search

What the nearest search yeilds . . .
UC CCCP

And the kicker . . . A complete list of universities in Chile . . . notice one missing?
List of Chilean Unis . . . Wiki

I'm calling BS on the Google Map query, since that is the only place you can find a U of Cali, Santiago. Nice try though . . .

reply to post by Magnus47

If you look at page 41 of the raw data, you can see the elements this thing was primarily composed of, and three of them are circled. Iron was far and away the biggest amount, at 460,000 parts per million (46%). Next in line is Nickel, at 52,000 ppm (5.2%). The following elements appear in decreasing amount:

Phosphorus.....2400 ppm
Cobalt.............2200 ppm (CIRCLED)
Sodium...........2100 ppm
Magnesium.....860 ppm
Copper............510 ppm
Germanium......320 ppm
Gallium...........120 ppm
Barium............88 ppm
Manganese......52 ppm
Platinum..........9 ppm
Ruthenium.......8 ppm
Palladium........3 ppm

Hrm, apparently no one went through and checked out the periodic table after reading this post.

Gallium

Just to get to the point, a quote from the website -

Occurrence in Nature
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Gallium does not exist free in nature and there are no minerals with any substantial gallium content. Commercially, most gallium is extracted as a byproduct of aluminum and zinc production. Gallium is also extracted from the flue dusts of coal.

Wikipedia - Gallium had this to add -

Gallium does not exist in free form in nature, and the few high-gallium minerals such as gallite (CuGaS2) are too rare to serve as a primary source of the element or its compounds. Its abundance in the Earth's crust is approximately 16.9 ppm

So the fact that this report claims that 120ppm was found suggests to me that if this isn't bogus, this thing is more likely artificial in nature. The only element on these results that could suggest why the gallium could possibly be there is the germanium, as trace amounts of it can be found in germanite according to Jefferson Lab.

Trace amounts of gallium are found in diaspore, sphalerite, germanite and bauxite as well as in the byproducts of burning coal.

So me thinks the argument has been going in the wrong direction, and we should maybe rethink this "asteroid falling from the sky and ending up in a chin" idea.

Not that it couldn't happen, it just sounds just as absurd as little green men implanting it.

That's how I feel at least, though I could be mad.

Edit to add: Germanium is not found in nature either, it is a byproduct of metal refining and coal ashes.
ChemiCool - Germanium

Here is how it goes down op, Just another hoax until our msm media says it so

Nice find op, very nice

A simple chemistry class will tell you that metals cannot be produced in such a way. Unless you guys can somehow show that these synthetic metals can exist in stable form, as the periodic table essentially shows is impossible, then they don't exist. Simple as that.