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ELEnin Comet Is A NASA Psyop Cover For Incoming Dwarf Star

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posted on Apr, 25 2011 @ 01:51 PM
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Originally posted by antmax21
Is Leonid Elenin an anagram?
I just keep thinking it is but can't come up with anything.


if you translate the name LITERALLY, no metaphors or anythign it read slike this

prophetic meteor shower from constellation leo peaks in november, extinction level event, sumerian god/planet

: )

he's areal guy though, you can argue his name is fake, but he's a real guy you can talk to him on Facebook and his blog

i don't think he's a 'cover" for anything



posted on Apr, 25 2011 @ 01:52 PM
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"Brown dwarfs were only a theoretical concept until they were first discovered in 1995. It is now thought that there might be as many brown dwarfs as there are stars. "

coolcosmos.ipac.caltech.edu...

so is it just that brown dwarfs are all far waway? i know WISE found like 94 new ones recently



posted on Apr, 25 2011 @ 01:53 PM
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"Brown dwarfs are very dim and cool compared with stars. The best hope for finding brown dwarfs is in using infrared telescopes, which can detect the heat from these objects even though they are too cool to radiate visible light. Many brown dwarfs have also been discovered embedded in large clouds of gas and dust. Since infrared radiation can penetrate through the dusty regions of space, brown dwarfs can be discovered by infrared telescopes, even deep within thick clouds. Recently, 2MASS (Two Micron All Sky Survey) data revealed the coolest known brown dwarf. To the left is an infrared image of the Trapezium star cluster in the Orion Nebula. This image was part of a survey done at the United Kingdom Infrared Telescope ( UKIRT) in which over 100 brown dwarf candidates were identified in the infrared. "



posted on Apr, 25 2011 @ 01:53 PM
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A star does produce its own light due to fusion. A brown dwarf however, is a failed star and is incapable of fusion, therefore it does not produce light. It would still be seen due to the fact that the composition of a brown dwarf is almost identical to Jupiter and reflect light the same way that Jupiter does.



posted on Apr, 25 2011 @ 01:55 PM
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ok ...



posted on Apr, 25 2011 @ 02:02 PM
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as far as i can tell, there are no brown dwarf stars that you can see in our sky. correct ? they are all too faint and distant, so we've never actually experienced such a sighting?

and could perhaps the coincidences come down to something like this?
"John Matese, Emeritus Professor of Physics at the University of Louisiana at Lafayette, suspects Nemesis exists for another reason. The comets in the inner solar system seem to mostly come from the same region of the Oort Cloud, and Matese thinks the gravitational influence of a solar companion is disrupting that part of the cloud, scattering comets in its wake. His calculations suggest Nemesis is between 3 to 5 times the mass of Jupiter, rather than the 13 Jupiter masses or greater that some scientists think is a necessary quality of a brown dwarf. Even at this smaller mass, however, many astronomers would still classify it as a low mass star rather than a planet, since the circumstances of birth for stars and planets differ. "
www.astrobio.net...



posted on Apr, 25 2011 @ 02:03 PM
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Currently the closest brown dwarf is 13 light-years away. Therefore, much like distant planets, they would appear extremely dim if visible at all. Infrared telescopes make it much easier to see these dim, distant objects. A brown dwarf in our own solar system would be extremely visible.



posted on Apr, 25 2011 @ 02:04 PM
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and furthermore:

"Red dwarfs are also common – in fact, astronomers say they are the most common type of star in the galaxy. Brown dwarfs are also thought to be common, but there are only a few hundred known at this time because they are so difficult to see. Red and brown dwarfs are smaller and cooler than our Sun, and do not shine brightly. If red dwarfs can be compared to the red embers of a dying fire, then brown dwarfs would be the smoldering ash. Because they are so dim, it is plausible that the Sun could have a secret companion even though we’ve searched the sky for many years with a variety of instruments. "
www.astrobio.net...


so perhaps they are worried about nemesis, and so any talk of it is something they can't answer honestly about - and they are annoyed people think comet elenin has something to do with it.....

starting to add up now


because it used to be NASA remeasured orbits in 90s, no need for planet x, but many articles after 90s support search for nemesis

it was planet x before


and it was searched for in 1800s




this is where all the confusion is coming from !



posted on Apr, 25 2011 @ 02:07 PM
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Originally posted by Xcalibur254
reply to post by ufoinquirer
 


Currently the closest brown dwarf is 13 light-years away. Therefore, much like distant planets, they would appear extremely dim if visible at all. Infrared telescopes make it much easier to see these dim, distant objects. A brown dwarf in our own solar system would be extremely visible.


thank you



posted on Apr, 25 2011 @ 02:08 PM
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Originally posted by ufoinquirer

Originally posted by Olise
Look, why do you worry yourselves with something you have no control over? I guarantee you if a brown dwarf that size is heading to earth, no bunker or cave will protect you! People are so concerned about earthly living that they don't bother understanding their real LIFE and why that which shall be is ordained to be!!!

Fear is the power of death; and ignorance is the power of fear! When you come to the full knowledge of that which matters you will seize from worrying about that which doesn't. If you are that concerned about the earth, turn to your neighbor and hug'm and mannifest true love, then you will develope peace on earth; but that will not happen, because there are way too many individualistic minds on earth, eccentrics that see thamselves as better or superior to others. When you purify your heart it will not matter to you what is headed your way: for since you did not create yourself you have no hand in the fate of creation.

Those who do not believe in creation and God suppose they can control fate, even the fate of the universe: really? You cannot control the outcome of the life you host, let alone the universe as a whole! The only thing you can control is how you feel about your neighbor: turn to them and love them, because you are forever linked to them, even as the galaxies are linked in a vast cosmic web: for so are you linked in a vast spiritual web, held together by an all powerful invisible energy. Peace be with you!!!



what little respect you have for those who have done their research, and know that indeed an event like this IS survivable if you are prepared

for someone who wants to have kids soon, it is important for me to learn about what climate change we have ahead of us

you don't have to participate, but you should be thanking your LUCKY STARS people are spending time to try to find the truth...because when they find, they're going to be informing you about it


How restricted the human minds is!!! An event like this is survivable if you are prepared? The truth is what I stated: read it again; though to you it is mumbo jumbo. You were told, "The truth shall set you free." Instead of worrying about how to prepare for the destruction of earth, which when it does happen, nothing can and will be saved, you should channel that energy into learning how to live and love: for that is why you are on earth.

Predictions should never stop you from living: for even the scriptures tell you that even prophecies do fail. Focus on life, the very being you host in your body; and have kids and love and share love: LIVE! Do not be afraid: for no one and nothing can take life away from you; you are an eternal being, precious and divinely loved!!!



posted on Apr, 25 2011 @ 02:12 PM
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The existence of Nemesis is an extremely low possibility. The likelihood of it existing is so low that Matese doesn't even support the hypothesis anymore. Instead he supports the new Tyche hypothesis, which is no threat whatsoever if it exists.



posted on Apr, 25 2011 @ 02:13 PM
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Originally posted by Olise

Originally posted by ufoinquirer

Originally posted by Olise
Look, why do you worry yourselves with something you have no control over? I guarantee you if a brown dwarf that size is heading to earth, no bunker or cave will protect you! People are so concerned about earthly living that they don't bother understanding their real LIFE and why that which shall be is ordained to be!!!

Fear is the power of death; and ignorance is the power of fear! When you come to the full knowledge of that which matters you will seize from worrying about that which doesn't. If you are that concerned about the earth, turn to your neighbor and hug'm and mannifest true love, then you will develope peace on earth; but that will not happen, because there are way too many individualistic minds on earth, eccentrics that see thamselves as better or superior to others. When you purify your heart it will not matter to you what is headed your way: for since you did not create yourself you have no hand in the fate of creation.

Those who do not believe in creation and God suppose they can control fate, even the fate of the universe: really? You cannot control the outcome of the life you host, let alone the universe as a whole! The only thing you can control is how you feel about your neighbor: turn to them and love them, because you are forever linked to them, even as the galaxies are linked in a vast cosmic web: for so are you linked in a vast spiritual web, held together by an all powerful invisible energy. Peace be with you!!!



what little respect you have for those who have done their research, and know that indeed an event like this IS survivable if you are prepared

for someone who wants to have kids soon, it is important for me to learn about what climate change we have ahead of us

you don't have to participate, but you should be thanking your LUCKY STARS people are spending time to try to find the truth...because when they find, they're going to be informing you about it


How restricted the human minds is!!! An event like this is survivable if you are prepared? The truth is what I stated: read it again; though to you it is mumbo jumbo. You were told, "The truth shall set you free." Instead of worrying about how to prepare for the destruction of earth, which when it does happen, nothing can and will be saved, you should channel that energy into learning how to live and love: for that is why you are on earth.

Predictions should never stop you from living: for even the scriptures tell you that even prophecies do fail. Focus on life, the very being you host in your body; and have kids and love and share love: LIVE! Do not be afraid: for no one and nothing can take life away from you; you are an eternal being, precious and divinely loved!!!


i have an amazing life. : ) and regardless of any doomsday predictions, there are many survival measures and techniques that you can employ under many situations. and there is nothing "wrong" with knowing what they are.

stop pretending like you know anything about me, please !



posted on Apr, 25 2011 @ 02:15 PM
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Originally posted by Xcalibur254
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The existence of Nemesis is an extremely low possibility. The likelihood of it existing is so low that Matese doesn't even support the hypothesis anymore. Instead he supports the new Tyche hypothesis, which is no threat whatsoever if it exists.


so we thought a planet was tugging on uranis and neptune since early 1800s
-90s remeasure orbit, nope
then we though thought planet was tugging on other things ?

i mean it seems like the theory keeps popping up?

but tyche is a planetary body explaining orbits, right ? threat or not ? seems search for nemesis just leads to tyche ?



posted on Apr, 25 2011 @ 02:30 PM
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The search for Planet X actually started in the late 1800s after the discovery of Neptune. Almost immediately after its discovery researchers noticed perturbations in its orbit. This lead to search throughout the early 1900s for another planet, which eventually lead to the discovery of Pluto in 1930. This didn't explain the perturbations, but as more data was gathered the perturbations became smaller until Voyager II's flyby of Neptune when they were completely explained away. Nemesis is based off of another hypothesis that appeared in the 1980s that suggested mass extinctions occurring on a regular basis. However, this was eventually found to be false. Matese has now suggested Tyche in order to explain the orbits of long-period comets, but most researchers disagree with his hypothesis.



posted on Apr, 25 2011 @ 02:32 PM
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Originally posted by Xcalibur254
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The search for Planet X actually started in the late 1800s after the discovery of Neptune. Almost immediately after its discovery researchers noticed perturbations in its orbit. This lead to search throughout the early 1900s for another planet, which eventually lead to the discovery of Pluto in 1930. This didn't explain the perturbations, but as more data was gathered the perturbations became smaller until Voyager II's flyby of Neptune when they were completely explained away. Nemesis is based off of another hypothesis that appeared in the 1980s that suggested mass extinctions occurring on a regular basis. However, this was eventually found to be false. Matese has now suggested Tyche in order to explain the orbits of long-period comets, but most researchers disagree with his hypothesis.


actually planet x theory was tied to mass extinctions too : ) remember 3600 year orbit of planet x has been clung to for that reason

but thanks



posted on Apr, 25 2011 @ 02:37 PM
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That is a modern claim by Nancy Lieder. Lowell's Planet X was never connected to any kind of mass extinction and certainly didn't have a 3600 year orbit. This claim is merely pseudoscience based on Sitchin's Nibiru combined with the legitimate search for Planet X.



posted on Apr, 25 2011 @ 02:39 PM
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Originally posted by Xcalibur254
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That is a modern claim by Nancy Lieder. Lowell's Planet X was never connected to any kind of mass extinction and certainly didn't have a 3600 year orbit. This claim is merely pseudoscience based on Sitchin's Nibiru combined with the legitimate search for Planet X.


i disagree

i've done quite a bit of reading about the 1800s search for planet x, or whateve rthey called it at time, and mass extinctions was one part of it (not the driver of the theory, but an after thought) if i had quote i could share it

i know sitchin got theory going, but there were theories about a planet lurking outside solar system (beyond pluto) well before him



posted on Apr, 25 2011 @ 02:45 PM
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On the subject of brown dwarfs, have just come across an article that points to (possibly) the coldest star in the galaxy. a Brown dwarf at just 100 degrees Celsius. Only hot enough to boil a cup of tea.

Brown Dwarf Star

Notes from the article above.


Regardless their brightness, "all stars emit blackbody radiation in the infrared portion of the electromagnetic spectrum.



"All objects emit light and other electromagnetic radiation just by virtue of having some temperature, regardless how cold or hot they are,


So.. IMO, I think if a brown dwarf was heading our way, we would at least have noticed something by now. Unless of course it's been buried deep in the secure need to know vault.
edit on 25/4/2011 by ATSecretAgent because: Typo.



posted on Apr, 25 2011 @ 02:47 PM
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Originally posted by ATSecretAgent
On the subject of brown dwarfs, have just come across an article that points to (possibly) the coldest star in the galaxy. a Brown dwarf at just 100 degrees Celsius. Only hot enough to boil a cup of tea.

Brown Dwarf Star

Notes:

Regardless their brightness, "all stars emit blackbody radiation in the infrared portion of the electromagnetic spectrum.



"All objects emit light and other electromagnetic radiation just by virtue of having some temperature, regardless how cold or hot they are,


So.. IMO, I think if a brown dwarf was heading our way, we would at least have noticed something by now. Unless of course it's been buried deep in the secure need to know vault.


not to naked eye, you'd have to have infrared scope

all i know is, there is possibility of ET life and visitations and even michio kaku talks abou ta type 4 civilization that can control whole star systems, and a history of government hiding thigns from us

i agree we've taken this particular brand of theory too far - im still curious about the patterns and will keep watching - but honestly, if the govt COULD cover somethign like this up... chem trails, whatever... they would



posted on Apr, 25 2011 @ 02:51 PM
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Well..... I am not an astronomer or a scientist. I have been researching on internet, watching youtube video, reading alot of blogs and comments, and am truly amazed at how some people respond to the unknown.

I am wildly fascinated as the coincidence of alignments with Elenin have cause some severe seismic activity but not sure what all has contributed to it also. We are entering an alignment with the galactic center, we are entering an area in our galaxy that only happens every few thousand years. Ancient cultures have stories AROUND the world of another world (planet) in our galaxy. And astronemers have just now started learning how to find brown dwarfs and locating them with infrared. All i know is i have read about the poles shifting on almost every planet in uor solar system, ours has been slightly shifting over centuries and the speed has increased dramatically in the last decade. Our ice shelves our melting faster than scientist have imagined, and our sun is more active than it has in decades. I am not debunking anyones theories or suggesting that it's actually something going on. But in last few years ALOT of strange weather patterns have been evolving, like whats seems to be Hurricanes on land in the USA and tornadoes ripping through the USA worse then ever. Earthquake activity along the ring of fire and not to mention volcanic activity in more than just a few islands and countries.


I personally think there is something major going to happen and all the news talks about is Middle East riots, Civil Wars, and conflicts around the world that i believe the USA started and been fueling for over 50 years. The news barely covers worldwide phenomenon that is going and is more interested in broadcasting the Royal Wedding and USA shuttle launches. So, if there is to be any progress in discussions everyone needs to take in some of what people say and use it constructively and not make threads into means of calling people morons or idiots and simply put your own imput out there so people dont get offended.



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