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ELEnin Comet Is A NASA Psyop Cover For Incoming Dwarf Star

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posted on Apr, 25 2011 @ 10:39 AM
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Originally posted by DJW001
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i'm specifically talking about the science types on these boards.


I am one of the "science types" on this board and I am clearly appalled by the ignorance of basic science on the part of some members, and the willingness to exploit this ignorance on the part of others. Anything massive enough to cause earthquakes on Earth would be disturbing the tides and plucking asteroids out of their orbits; since none of that is happening, there is no massive body approaching. 9nania made a vague fear-mongering prediction and got lucky. She's gone silent now because she knows if she opens her mouth again her track record will drop from 50% (Remember the March 31st prediction?) to 33% and not even truthseeker1111 will be able to defend her any more.


you should be appalled that citizens don't have lots all faith in their government, and NASA, and have to rely on random Internet research to find out if an apocalypse is on the way

i realize how frustrated you get - but i don't think you're aware of what the REAL problem and cause of all this, is

as well

9nania's 31st prediction was indeed a prediction, but even by her own omission, it was not based on the same alignment she used for her 11th-15th prediction and it didn't even feature her voice or image. i seriously am wondering if that's even her account anymore.
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posted on Apr, 25 2011 @ 10:40 AM
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Originally posted by ufoinquirer

Originally posted by DJW001
reply to post by ufoinquirer
 



i'm specifically talking about the science types on these boards.


I am one of the "science types" on this board and I am clearly appalled by the ignorance of basic science on the part of some members, and the willingness to exploit this ignorance on the part of others. Anything massive enough to cause earthquakes on Earth would be disturbing the tides and plucking asteroids out of their orbits; since none of that is happening, there is no massive body approaching. 9nania made a vague fear-mongering prediction and got lucky. She's gone silent now because she knows if she opens her mouth again her track record will drop from 50% (Remember the March 31st prediction?) to 33% and not even truthseeker1111 will be able to defend her any more.


you should be appalled that citizens have lots all faith in their government, and NASA, and have to rely on random Internet research to find out if an apocalypse is on the way

i realize how frustrated you get - but i don't think you're aware of what the REAL problem and cause of all this, is

as well

9nania's 31st prediction was indeed a prediction, but even by her own omission, it was not based on the same alignment she used for her 11th-15th prediction and it didn't even feature her voice or image. i seriously am wondering if that's even her account anymore.


and i don't get it

on one point, you say her initial prediction video wasn't good enough

and then when you lose that argument

you have to go to her next video, which again even if she was sincere with prediction, it was not based on same patterns observed from last prediction

its not about if she's a good source or not either, it's just about odds of her making accurate prediction based on such an "inaccurate" theory

and earthquake activity has been getting worse and worse since 11th



posted on Apr, 25 2011 @ 10:44 AM
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Originally posted by ufoinquirer

Originally posted by ufoinquirer

Originally posted by DJW001
reply to post by ufoinquirer
 



i'm specifically talking about the science types on these boards.


I am one of the "science types" on this board and I am clearly appalled by the ignorance of basic science on the part of some members, and the willingness to exploit this ignorance on the part of others. Anything massive enough to cause earthquakes on Earth would be disturbing the tides and plucking asteroids out of their orbits; since none of that is happening, there is no massive body approaching. 9nania made a vague fear-mongering prediction and got lucky. She's gone silent now because she knows if she opens her mouth again her track record will drop from 50% (Remember the March 31st prediction?) to 33% and not even truthseeker1111 will be able to defend her any more.


you should be appalled that citizens have lots all faith in their government, and NASA, and have to rely on random Internet research to find out if an apocalypse is on the way

i realize how frustrated you get - but i don't think you're aware of what the REAL problem and cause of all this, is

as well

9nania's 31st prediction was indeed a prediction, but even by her own omission, it was not based on the same alignment she used for her 11th-15th prediction and it didn't even feature her voice or image. i seriously am wondering if that's even her account anymore.


and i don't get it

on one point, you say her initial prediction video wasn't good enough

and then when you lose that argument

you have to go to her next video, which again even if she was sincere with prediction, it was not based on same patterns observed from last prediction

its not about if she's a good source or not either, it's just about odds of her making accurate prediction based on such an "inaccurate" theory

and earthquake activity has been getting worse and worse since 11th


Gee, I wonder why?

Maybe it was the historic 9.0 quake and all.

But I could be wrong.



posted on Apr, 25 2011 @ 10:47 AM
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Originally posted by NyxOne

Originally posted by ufoinquirer

Originally posted by ufoinquirer

Originally posted by DJW001
reply to post by ufoinquirer
 



i'm specifically talking about the science types on these boards.


I am one of the "science types" on this board and I am clearly appalled by the ignorance of basic science on the part of some members, and the willingness to exploit this ignorance on the part of others. Anything massive enough to cause earthquakes on Earth would be disturbing the tides and plucking asteroids out of their orbits; since none of that is happening, there is no massive body approaching. 9nania made a vague fear-mongering prediction and got lucky. She's gone silent now because she knows if she opens her mouth again her track record will drop from 50% (Remember the March 31st prediction?) to 33% and not even truthseeker1111 will be able to defend her any more.


you should be appalled that citizens have lots all faith in their government, and NASA, and have to rely on random Internet research to find out if an apocalypse is on the way

i realize how frustrated you get - but i don't think you're aware of what the REAL problem and cause of all this, is

as well

9nania's 31st prediction was indeed a prediction, but even by her own omission, it was not based on the same alignment she used for her 11th-15th prediction and it didn't even feature her voice or image. i seriously am wondering if that's even her account anymore.


and i don't get it

on one point, you say her initial prediction video wasn't good enough

and then when you lose that argument

you have to go to her next video, which again even if she was sincere with prediction, it was not based on same patterns observed from last prediction

its not about if she's a good source or not either, it's just about odds of her making accurate prediction based on such an "inaccurate" theory

and earthquake activity has been getting worse and worse since 11th


Gee, I wonder why?

Maybe it was the historic 9.0 quake and all.

But I could be wrong.


consistent 5+ quakes since the 11th in japan plus increased EQ activity throughout world

more than aftershocks

and yes, she knew the quake was going to be big enough to lead to increased seismic activity after - she's not an idiot


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posted on Apr, 25 2011 @ 10:47 AM
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don't forget about the 7mags in japan too ! that followed

"aftershocks"



posted on Apr, 25 2011 @ 10:49 AM
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"On average there is only ONE 8.0 magnitude or larger earthquake per year, so please calculate the probability of their being an alignment with one single comet and the earth and sun during two separate massive earthquakes which occur only once per year? And then figure in the probability of a third alignment occurring during a 7.0 magnitude earthquake over a 14 month period of time?"



posted on Apr, 25 2011 @ 10:54 AM
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Originally posted by DJW001
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Well lets see... Quakes 6.0 are considered to be common place now which would hardly be noticed compared to Quakes 7.0 and greater which are the TYPES above that this issue is about. But then I've already posted a rebuttal discussing the ODDS and number probability in EARTHQUAKE PREDICTION and why 9nania giving an EXACT DATE and describing it would be a cataclysmic seismic event occurring in conjunction with a specific PATTERN, is beyond mere chance and coincidence.

Too bad she didn't predict the exact date, then. She predicted "this week-end," citing a range of dates from the eleventh to the fifteenth. That's a four day range.


Too bad the evidence PROVES otherwise.

ITS AN IRREFUTABLE FACT SHE PREDICTED THE EXACT DATE... And I've explained this in at least 10 postings i think in this thread alone which in nearly every "response" from debunker/skeptics, has been evaded and you've failed to even address. Yet you continue your denial and cherry-pick what you answer to avoid giving ANY CONTEXT because its the only way you can make it appear you've proven or disproven anything. You haven't. and the facts are there for anyone with a brain to see why you're wrong.


Originally posted by DJW001
She also did not give a specific magnitude, all she did was whine about it being dangerous. Any magnitude 6 earthquake that did any property damage could be claimed as a "hit."


there are many quakes that cause "property damage"... but not all quakes rise to a level of being catastrophic as GREAT QUAKES can do far more than mere "PROPERTY DAMAGE" in the way you're insinuating


Originally posted by DJW001
Furthermore, she did not predict that it would happen in Japan; she predicted that it would happen in California OR Iran OR South America OR Japan OR the New Madrid fault; in other words, she parroted the list of areas on fault lines provided by Michio Kushi in the video she plagiarized.


No, she used M.K's warning to FURTHER explain what type of event and level she was talking about... she said nothing about IRAN... she gave the Pacific Ring of Fire as the primary REGION/AREA this 3/11 QUAKE would strike and be catastrophic.

Sollogs warning about 3/11 being connected to MAJOR QUAKES that kills THOUSANDS and a MAJOR QUAKE would cause a Nuke Reactor disaster connected to an area know as the VALLEY OF THE SUN, only further validates his psychic ability and why these are unique predictions/predictors.


Originally posted by DJW001
Of course an earthquake would happen on a fault zone so the odds of one happening in one of the many places she named was 100%.


Once you've researched all the CONTEXT in the various warnings that she gave long BEFORE 3/11 which DESCRIBED why the EVENT she was warning about would be an EARTHQUAKE reaching a CATASTROPHIC level, disproves your premise and argument that her prediction was nothing special and anyone can do it.

And NO, YOUR "prediction" and parameters you're using below, is not comparable nor anything special that proves your argument. In fact, it only strengthens mine.


Originally posted by DJW001
My prediction is much more specific than hers: I narrow the range to three rather than four days and I name a specific magnitude. Please post a link to your statistical analysis, I don't recall seeing it on this thread; all I've seen here are affirmations without any actual evidence.


You're right..i stand corrected... it wasn't on this thread... it was on this one...
www.abovetopsecret.com...
but i've written several rebuttals on this subject in threads dealing with this same issue, so my bad



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posted on Apr, 25 2011 @ 10:55 AM
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you should be appalled that citizens don't have lots all faith in their government, and NASA, and have to rely on random Internet research to find out if an apocalypse is on the way


I am appalled that people don't have faith in their own government, and I am appalled that governments in general warrant this distrust. Relying on random internet searches for anything will always yield you garbage. If you want to believe the apocalypse is coming, go right ahead... just don't try to justify it with bad science, that's all I'm saying.



posted on Apr, 25 2011 @ 10:59 AM
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Originally posted by DJW001
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Relying on random internet searches for anything will always yield you garbage. .


wow, what crap.

the Internet is a warehouse for all kinds of info, including the kinds of info NASA shares

everyone should thoroughly educate themselves with as many sources, thanks to Internet, as possible

to say people were wrong on this one, is one thing...to discourage people from researching info for themselves, and relying on their own intellect versus propaganda, is just ... well... EW



sorry yes I agree random research isn't helpful, but peopl ehave lives. they can't deep dive into EVERYTHINg. that's the problem. so we just have to stop battling EACH OTHER, and realize what is going on.

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posted on Apr, 25 2011 @ 11:08 AM
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ITS AN IRREFUTABLE FACT SHE PREDICTED THE EXACT DATE.


TYPING SOMETHING IN ALL CAPS DOESN'T MAKE IT IRREFUTABLE, especially if it keeps getting refuted. 9nania predicted a range of dates, not a specific date. Statistically, there was likely to be an earthquake of at least 6.0. A 6.0 quake can cause significant damage in a populated area, allowing it to be called a "catastrophe."


You're right..i stand corrected... it wasn't on this thread... it was on this one...
www.abovetopsecret.com...
but i've written several rebuttals on this subject in threads dealing with this same issue, so my bad


So where exactly is your "statistical analysis? Is this it?


It has been estimated by various seismic professors, that the odds of anyone predicting a major quake over 6.5, within 3 days and 250 miles of the event, is about 10,000 to 1 if they choose an earthquake prone area or much higher if they choose an area of the earth not subject to quakes.

And the real odds of anyone giving the exact date when a quake over 7.0 will occur is around 30 to 1.


Would you please provide a link to the source of this statement? Not that it matters, since 9nanaia did not name either an exact date, an exact location nor an exact magnitude. She provided a range of dates and a number of different locations. TYPING IN ALL CAPS DOES NOT REFUTE THAT FACT.



posted on Apr, 25 2011 @ 11:10 AM
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the Internet is a warehouse for all kinds of info, including the kinds of info NASA shares

everyone should thoroughly educate themselves with as many sources, thanks to Internet, as possible


I agree, but it is necessary to understand the nature of the sources one is reading. Some are more reliable than others.



posted on Apr, 25 2011 @ 11:11 AM
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Originally posted by DJW001
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ITS AN IRREFUTABLE FACT SHE PREDICTED THE EXACT DATE.


TYPING SOMETHING IN ALL CAPS DOESN'T MAKE IT IRREFUTABLE, especially if it keeps getting refuted. 9nania predicted a range of dates, not a specific date. Statistically, there was likely to be an earthquake of at least 6.0. A 6.0 quake can cause significant damage in a populated area, allowing it to be called a "catastrophe."


You're right..i stand corrected... it wasn't on this thread... it was on this one...
www.abovetopsecret.com...
but i've written several rebuttals on this subject in threads dealing with this same issue, so my bad


So where exactly is your "statistical analysis? Is this it?


It has been estimated by various seismic professors, that the odds of anyone predicting a major quake over 6.5, within 3 days and 250 miles of the event, is about 10,000 to 1 if they choose an earthquake prone area or much higher if they choose an area of the earth not subject to quakes.

And the real odds of anyone giving the exact date when a quake over 7.0 will occur is around 30 to 1.


Would you please provide a link to the source of this statement? Not that it matters, since 9nanaia did not name either an exact date, an exact location nor an exact magnitude. She provided a range of dates and a number of different locations. TYPING IN ALL CAPS DOES NOT REFUTE THAT FACT.


YES SHE DID

SHE SAID MARCH 11th WOULD BE FIRST DAY OF ALIGNMENT, THAT WAS DAY TO GET OFF FAULT LINES. BUT THAT IT COULD HAPPEN 11th-15th SHE PREDICTED MUCH MUCH MORE THAN 6.0 QUAKE

i don't care about caps, this is frustrating ! you can say it wa s alucky guess and all that, but stop twisting the truth



posted on Apr, 25 2011 @ 11:11 AM
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Originally posted by DJW001
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the Internet is a warehouse for all kinds of info, including the kinds of info NASA shares

everyone should thoroughly educate themselves with as many sources, thanks to Internet, as possible


I agree, but it is necessary to understand the nature of the sources one is reading. Some are more reliable than others.


problem is though we don't know what's reliable anymore : ( cnn is a TABLOID !

see the problem ????



posted on Apr, 25 2011 @ 11:19 AM
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you can say it wa s alucky guess and all that, but stop twisting the truth


But I'm not the one twisting the truth; what she did is an old con game: "If you cross the river, a mighty army will be destroyed."

If the quake had struck California instead of Japan, she would have been right. If the quake had struck Japan on the 12th, she would have been right. If the quake had struck California on the 13th, she would have been right. If the quake had struck Japan on the 14th, but was only 6.0 but completely leveled a village, she would have been right. Do you see how the con works now?



posted on Apr, 25 2011 @ 11:20 AM
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problem is though we don't know what's reliable anymore : ( cnn is a TABLOID !

see the problem ????


Exactly; that's where critical thinking comes in.



posted on Apr, 25 2011 @ 11:23 AM
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Originally posted by DJW001
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you can say it wa s alucky guess and all that, but stop twisting the truth


But I'm not the one twisting the truth; what she did is an old con game: "If you cross the river, a mighty army will be destroyed."

If the quake had struck California instead of Japan, she would have been right. If the quake had struck Japan on the 12th, she would have been right. If the quake had struck California on the 13th, she would have been right. If the quake had struck Japan on the 14th, but was only 6.0 but completely leveled a village, she would have been right. Do you see how the con works now?


i think you need to rewatch the video.

haha.

she said LA was a POSSIBILITY, her best guess, but Japan was another large possibility.

she said the first day of earthquake could be on ELEVENTH. that was day to make sure you weren't on fault line !!!!



posted on Apr, 25 2011 @ 11:24 AM
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Originally posted by DJW001
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problem is though we don't know what's reliable anymore : ( cnn is a TABLOID !

see the problem ????


Exactly; that's where critical thinking comes in.


agreed. but not everyone can go back to school and relearn astronomy, so we gratefully rely on people lik eyou

however, we are also aware there are governmnet-hired shills that "debunk" truths, so just realize what's going on

stop taking it so personally

we're all up against a lot, and honestly it's not your fault, or mine



posted on Apr, 25 2011 @ 11:48 AM
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Originally posted by ufoinquirer
9nania's 31st prediction was indeed a prediction, but even by her own omission, it was not based on the same alignment she used for her 11th-15th prediction and it didn't even feature her voice or image. i seriously am wondering if that's even her account anymore.
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Originally posted by ufoinquirer i don't get it

on one point, you say her initial prediction video wasn't good enough

and then when you lose that argument

you have to go to her next video, which again even if she was sincere with prediction, it was not based on same patterns observed from last prediction

its not about if she's a good source or not either, it's just about odds of her making accurate prediction based on such an "inaccurate" theory

and earthquake activity has been getting worse and worse since 11th


again, EXACTLY the points I've already explained to these guys.
thank you

and for anyone who wants more insight into the context on what i've said/explained, answered and addressed on what these debunker/skeptics claim and deny, can take their pick from this set of posts that i've compiled that supports my argument against the assertions and criticism like the ones below i'm not gonna respond to because i already have; they keep repeating the same debunked arguments i've addressed like the one that because she's "been silent" lately, its allegedly because she "failed" or is scared to say anything now ?? bla bla bla

HUH?? Talk about RED-HERRINGS and making baseless claims... its pure denial, ignorance and disinfo.
Their criticisms aren't based off of any intelligent discourse or objective reasoning and analysis of all the data in context, and they cherry-pick what they'll respond to and address because its the only way they can make it look like they've proven or disproven anything when in fact its nothing but a FAIL.

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Originally posted by DJW001
I'm not the one twisting the truth; what she did is an old con game: "If you cross the river, a mighty army will be destroyed."
If the quake had struck California instead of Japan, she would have been right. If the quake had struck Japan on the 12th, she would have been right. If the quake had struck California on the 13th, she would have been right. If the quake had struck Japan on the 14th, but was only 6.0 but completely leveled a village, she would have been right. Do you see how the con works now?



Originally posted by Xcalibur254
Didn't you know that the March 31st prediction doesn't count? I mean she was so sure of her prediction that she told everyone in California to head to higher ground, which she herself claims to have done, but it wasn't a real prediction. If it had been a real prediction she would have been right. Since she wasn't right clearly she was just joking around or something and it shouldn't be held against her.



Originally posted by DJW001
I am one of the "science types" on this board and I am clearly appalled by the ignorance of basic science on the part of some members, and the willingness to exploit this ignorance on the part of others. Anything massive enough to cause earthquakes on Earth would be disturbing the tides and plucking asteroids out of their orbits; since none of that is happening, there is no massive body approaching. 9nania made a vague fear-mongering prediction and got lucky. She's gone silent now because she knows if she opens her mouth again her track record will drop from 50% (Remember the March 31st prediction?) to 33% and not even truthseeker1111 will be able to defend her any more.



Originally posted by DJW001
Michio Kushi's point was that we should always stay off the fault lines. That is a much more useful idea. My prediction is just as accurate as hers: get off the fault lines RIGHT NOW! There will be an earthquake in the next three days.





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posted on Apr, 25 2011 @ 12:11 PM
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Look, why do you worry yourselves with something you have no control over? I guarantee you if a brown dwarf that size is heading to earth, no bunker or cave will protect you! People are so concerned about earthly living that they don't bother understanding their real LIFE and why that which shall be is ordained to be!!!

Fear is the power of death; and ignorance is the power of fear! When you come to the full knowledge of that which matters you will seize from worrying about that which doesn't. If you are that concerned about the earth, turn to your neighbor and hug'm and mannifest true love, then you will develope peace on earth; but that will not happen, because there are way too many individualistic minds on earth, eccentrics that see thamselves as better or superior to others. When you purify your heart it will not matter to you what is headed your way: for since you did not create yourself you have no hand in the fate of creation.

Those who do not believe in creation and God suppose they can control fate, even the fate of the universe: really? You cannot control the outcome of the life you host, let alone the universe as a whole! The only thing you can control is how you feel about your neighbor: turn to them and love them, because you are forever linked to them, even as the galaxies are linked in a vast cosmic web: for so are you linked in a vast spiritual web, held together by an all powerful invisible energy. Peace be with you!!!



posted on Apr, 25 2011 @ 12:19 PM
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Originally posted by Olise
Look, why do you worry yourselves with something you have no control over? I guarantee you if a brown dwarf that size is heading to earth, no bunker or cave will protect you! People are so concerned about earthly living that they don't bother understanding their real LIFE and why that which shall be is ordained to be!!!

Fear is the power of death; and ignorance is the power of fear! When you come to the full knowledge of that which matters you will seize from worrying about that which doesn't. If you are that concerned about the earth, turn to your neighbor and hug'm and mannifest true love, then you will develope peace on earth; but that will not happen, because there are way too many individualistic minds on earth, eccentrics that see thamselves as better or superior to others. When you purify your heart it will not matter to you what is headed your way: for since you did not create yourself you have no hand in the fate of creation.

Those who do not believe in creation and God suppose they can control fate, even the fate of the universe: really? You cannot control the outcome of the life you host, let alone the universe as a whole! The only thing you can control is how you feel about your neighbor: turn to them and love them, because you are forever linked to them, even as the galaxies are linked in a vast cosmic web: for so are you linked in a vast spiritual web, held together by an all powerful invisible energy. Peace be with you!!!



what little respect you have for those who have done their research, and know that indeed an event like this IS survivable if you are prepared

for someone who wants to have kids soon, it is important for me to learn about what climate change we have ahead of us

you don't have to participate, but you should be thanking your LUCKY STARS people are spending time to try to find the truth...because when they find, they're going to be informing you about it



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