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ELEnin Comet Is A NASA Psyop Cover For Incoming Dwarf Star

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posted on Apr, 25 2011 @ 10:19 PM
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Brown Dwarfs are completely new to man kind, they have just figured out the only true way to see them is with infrared this past year. SO they claim, and noone knows what its composed of, unless you have more scientific and astronomic value than any of us or the people we have researched for many years.

And all i have found scientifically they are a complete mystery across the world.

I am sorry, i am not trying to un acknowledge you but merely trying to speak what i personally have researched and if you have more knowledge of it please continue with scientific data or personal perspective



posted on Apr, 25 2011 @ 10:21 PM
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noone is sure exactly how a brown dwarf reflects light, for all we know it can be an object that absorbs light.


No.



posted on Apr, 25 2011 @ 10:31 PM
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i am not quite sure on that because mankind has found ways to trap light and not remit it are you so sure an advanced culture could not use that technology to advance their own race? i honestly don't know. I am merely a speculator and the sheep who whines when disciplined. I do know the ancient cultures speak of us as we were slaves of another race and genetically created by them. I do not overlook everything i read and observe, i just look for whatever makes sense to me. i dont claim to be right or wrong, i just speak what i BELIEVE. i am not a scientist, astronomer or an astrobioligist. i am just sick and tired of the normal hypocrisy in this world and ready for a change. whether i die or live has no meaning to me, i only concern of my kids and what happens to them.



posted on Apr, 26 2011 @ 02:15 AM
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I don't know if you h ave read any of the two articles I linked to but in a nutshell;

1. Brown Dwarfs are typically around 4 times the size of Jupiter BUT
2. Their mass can be up to 100 times greater than Jupiter.
3. A Brown Dwarf is a small, dimly lit star, without sufficient mass for fusion to occur at it's core.
4. A Brown dwarf starts life the same way a normal star does, but doesn't reach the same huge temperatures of a normal star, instead, it spends it's life continuously cooling, but retains enough heat to emit light in the infra-red spectrum.
5. A brown dwarf, being a star (which is a giant ball of gas) is also a large ball of gas, much like Jupiter is a ball of gas. If Jupiter had the sufficient size and mass in the beginning, it probably would have become a brown dwarf.
(that would have made for an interesting solar system)

and finally

6. All objects, regardless of how cold or hot, emit light. The only objects I know of where this up for debate are black holes.

Artist impression of brown dwarf next to Jupiter.

edit on 26/4/2011 by ATSecretAgent because: Image added.



posted on Apr, 26 2011 @ 02:41 AM
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I've come across two articles which debate the possibility of a tenth planet
Here
and
Here


The first article is the most recent and is related to the WISE survey. I think it's important to note that it's talking about a 10th planet, not a brown dwarf. (just in case anyone gets the wrong idea).

Anyway, two different ideas about the possibility of a tenth planet.

This article Here
has lots of info about WISE and brown dwarf companion theory. I've selected this quote below as being significant.



Ned Wright, professor of astronomy and physics at UCLA and the principal investigator for the WISE mission, said that WISE will easily see an object with a mass a few times that of Jupiter and located 25,000 AU away, as suggested by Matese. “This is because Jupiter is self-luminous like a brown dwarf,” said Wright. “But for planets less massive than Jupiter in the far outer solar system, WISE will be less sensitive.”



edit on 26/4/2011 by ATSecretAgent because: New info.



posted on Apr, 26 2011 @ 08:35 AM
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All this hysteria?

It's all our fault.

No one knows who to trust, and instead of us all just trying to achieve the same goal, each of us is just trying to prove each other right.

If the 'debunkers' had been better about explaining brown dwarf stars from beginning, we wouldn't have so much back and forth! Turns out they are extremely difficult to see and are a relatively new phenomenon to scientists. Does this mean Nibiru is coming? HELL NO. But you don't have to lie to get your point across, guys, just be honest - it's okay to appeal to the unknown sometimes.

Anyways, here are some of Leonid Elenin's recent messages
(I'll be putting together a huge feature about all this soon!)
Me
Hello Sir,
Thanks so much for keeping in touch with us, and keeping us updated on the comet.
I really appreciate it, and have no doubts you are a real person.
However, I am not sure that your name is real. I realize that you cannot confirm this, but can I ask you something. Were you named after the Leonid meteor shower? Is that why you name is so interesting? : )

Leonid Elenin
Hello Laura,
I will not try to prove that this is my real name. You can believe or not


Me
Haha, okay, saying that, would you mind sharing - Are you doing anything in particular to prepare for natural disasters in the coming months ??
OH and please know that I am aware of your Russian name, from 2007 etc and on, would you perhaps clarify which name you prefer to go by or why you switched to the English version ? Perhaps just to make your discovery clearer?

Leonid Elenin
I prepare to watch my comet with my daughter on October

About my name, you told about Yelenin and Elenin?


Leonid Elenin
No, you are not looney
But people love some mystic. My version of information about my comet is bored
Sorry


About name. English is interlanguage. I can't name comet as C/2010 X1 (Еленин). I need to transliterate my name in English. Let's communicate on Russian?


Me
Таким образом, это звучит, как будто вы говорите, нет причин для беспокойства, это просто большие совпадения. И если есть что-то происходит, никто не имеет достаточно информации, на данный момент, чтобы понять это. Вы видели трейлер "Меланхолия"? www.youtube.com...
Nibiru in a Foreign Movie (Melancholia Trailer)
www.youtube.com


Что вы думаете об этом?

"Если какая-либо вещь, идея Нибиру быть реальной накаляется с новыми и Новые картинок, размещенные различных Астрономы так как это" Еленин "приближается.
Это новые изображения того, что было названо розыгрыш очень много ...
xa.yimg.com...
классическая утечка НАСА изображения с 2008 года, показаны красновато объект с нескольких белых объектов вокруг него ... а на дальнейшее укрепление этого нового образа ...
xa.yimg.com...
Теперь вы можете ясно видеть все 6 из планет, которые вращаются вокруг этого коричневого карлика звезда!
И теперь вы можете видеть очень близкое соответствие между ним, и изображение StarViewerTeam производства еще в 2009 году ...
xa.yimg.com... "
xa.yimg.com...
xa.yimg.com

Leonid Elenin
We don't know any mechanism which may influence on Earth from such VERY long distance. My comet can't make gravitational influence to our planet. If we replace our comet to brown dwarf, we already feel it's mass by changing all orbit of all asteroids. But asteroids fly by normal orbits, our spacecrafts such DAWN and NH moving in right direction. Laura, my English is not so bad?


Now I saw this trailer

Laura, please write on English, I can't read Google Russian )


Me
Your English is great! I thought you wanted to correspond in Russian. Works either way for me thanks to Google Translate. Anyways, thanks a lot for your reply - I'll be sure to update everyone with a feature on my site this week.

Leonid Elenin
I already saw many trash about that. I can make another images and told what Nibiru is real. And I can make money. But I'm scientist and can't do that.
Thank you Laura )
Can you tell me truth - you need a TRUTH or you need proof of the existence of Nibiru any price? Do you believe in Nibiru? Please be honestly.


Me
Of course I am looking for the Truth. But the Truth is elusive these days, as the government and NASA are completely untrustworthy. So, when strange weather anomalies match up to strange conspiracies, it is important to investigate. The coincidences in this case are outrageous - your name is just CRAZY haha - but no, I do not think Planet X or Nibiru is on its way. I do believe the reasoning behind such a theory is not incorrect, though, just mistaken in this case.
Of course, to add to that - I do believe there is intelligent life out there in our universe, and that it has likely visited and is still visiting our planet. Who's to say there's not something out there in space that's under some intelligent control? : ) If you open up your mind a bit, and do your research, you learn it's impossible to ever be all that safe.
Do you believe in Nibiru, generally speaking ? I think it's entirely possible a planet could be lurking somewhere out there, or at least its remains could be - which actually could explain the objects around your comet : )

Leonid Elenin
Of course, we will discover many objects in the future. Perhaps find very faint brown dwarf in several light years from the Sun.

And I'm not seen any unknown objects near my comet.

Me
Hey, what do you think of this? Now that I've done some more research and gotten to know you, I agree with you that this conspiracy theory is out of control. However, it's a little strange, because people keep uploading YouTube videos of "second suns." Isn't that goofy? Of course, stuff like this just adds more speculation around what's around your comet. : ) Check it out - theufoinquirer.blogspot.com... Thoughts ?

Leonid Elenin
Laura, if "second" Sun is a real, we will have not hundreds videos on YouTube but millions such clips.

Me
Wouldn't it depend on time of day you were watching it, and where precisely the object was coming from, and where you were on Earth? Mercury's only visible a few days a year, right? For this reason?

Me
a little background by the way: photos and videos of second suns, or FLARES, have been increasingly popping up over last few months. So people are probably just noticing the sun for the first time, due to your comet conspiracy. : ) What's interesting about the last video is the object is very clear and it's a live web cam. As well, theory goes that if this brown dwarf was sneaky, it would be approaching froms outh pole and only visible with south pole telescope in beginning.

I hope you're having fun talking about this stuff, by the way! I do not want to waste your time. : )

Leonid Elenin
Laura, if object located accurate over SP we can see it from many places, not only from a South Pole. If space object hover over Moscow, we can see it from Berlin, it will be located not in zenith, but we will see it. If second sun located over SP we can catch it from Australia, South Africa and South America.

Me
Even if it's competing with sun for visibility ? : ) Like Mercury does time to time? I mean it would be there, but you wouldn't easily see it - especially if it was brown dwarf - if it was by the sun? Second sun sightings actually began in Australia if I remember correctly.

Leonid Elenin
But even if it was hanging out right by sun right now - we would have seen it "travel" there, right ? Any chance its orbit would bring it close to sun, obstructing vision, but outside sun too far to see ?
Thanks for letting me pick your brain. : ) I'm doing a feature soon!

Leonid Elenin
Laura, my brain is boil
I told you my opinion, but of course you can have own.


Me
Oh no worries, I am of your opinion. ; ) I'm just putting a big feature together and including ALL the theories and evidence, so it's helpful to have your take on it! That way I can share it. Thanks!



posted on Apr, 26 2011 @ 08:52 AM
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An object's temperature does not affect its reflectivity. It only indicates its distance from the Sun. Pluto is the coldest planet, but at the same time it is also the most reflective due to its composition. It's also not true that we have not observed brown dwarfs in the visible spectrum. In fact the first methane brown dwarf was found using the Palomar Observatory. So, we know they don't absorb light but reflect it. As for the atmosphere, I'll let Space.com cover that:


The atmosphere of brown dwarfs looks very much like that of giant planets, therefore the same models are used to reproduce their physical conditions.



posted on Apr, 26 2011 @ 08:54 AM
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there's a lot more to it than that : 0 brown dwarfs, specifically, are hard for astronomers to find in sky because of how very dim they are

they are similar to planets, but not the same thing

anyways theyve been described already accurately on this forum, but it took way too long to get that very simple info on table haha



posted on Apr, 26 2011 @ 09:11 AM
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I believe the main focus should be on finding out whether or not we have a brown dwarf companion or tenth planet?

The articles I linked to earlier provide all the info about brown dwarfs and their composition and how common they would appear to be.

Unfortunately, the results from WISE aren't due until next year at the earliest.



posted on Apr, 26 2011 @ 09:13 AM
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All this hysteria?

It's all our fault.


Specifically, it is the fault of PlanetXGuy, truthseeker1111, Terral, Lucus, 9nania, AstrolPatriot and a small number of others who have been exploiting other people by spreading lies for their own ends.


No one knows who to trust, and instead of us all just trying to achieve the same goal, each of us is just trying to prove each other right.


Did I ever steer you wrong?


If the 'debunkers' had been better about explaining brown dwarf stars from beginning, we wouldn't have so much back and forth! Turns out they are extremely difficult to see and are a relatively new phenomenon to scientists. Does this mean Nibiru is coming? HELL NO. But you don't have to lie to get your point across, guys, just be honest - it's okay to appeal to the unknown sometimes.


This was on page 1 of this thread:


I also forgot to mention that brown dwarfs have been photographed in the visible spectrum. They produce little to no light of their own, but they have a similar composition to Jupiter and as such reflect light like a planet, meaning it would be very visible.



posted on Apr, 26 2011 @ 10:12 AM
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Originally posted by DJW001
reply to post by ufoinquirer
 


All this hysteria?

It's all our fault.


Specifically, it is the fault of PlanetXGuy, truthseeker1111, Terral, Lucus, 9nania, AstrolPatriot and a small number of others who have been exploiting other people by spreading lies for their own ends.


No one knows who to trust, and instead of us all just trying to achieve the same goal, each of us is just trying to prove each other right.


Did I ever steer you wrong?


If the 'debunkers' had been better about explaining brown dwarf stars from beginning, we wouldn't have so much back and forth! Turns out they are extremely difficult to see and are a relatively new phenomenon to scientists. Does this mean Nibiru is coming? HELL NO. But you don't have to lie to get your point across, guys, just be honest - it's okay to appeal to the unknown sometimes.


This was on page 1 of this thread:


I also forgot to mention that brown dwarfs have been photographed in the visible spectrum. They produce little to no light of their own, but they have a similar composition to Jupiter and as such reflect light like a planet, meaning it would be very visible.




why do you assume people who disagree with you, even if they really are wrong, necessarily have bad intentions?
i got the impression terral and others were sincere with their beliefs, wrong or not. same for 9nania. but i get what you're saying.



posted on Apr, 26 2011 @ 10:39 AM
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You have to question their motives when they refuse to see any other evidence. I have been insulted by and called a shill by all of the people listed simply because I posted scientific facts. When contrary evidence is provided they don't attempt to argue the facts, instead they attack and attempt to discredit the other person.



posted on Apr, 26 2011 @ 10:54 AM
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Originally posted by Xcalibur254
reply to post by ufoinquirer
 


You have to question their motives when they refuse to see any other evidence. I have been insulted by and called a shill by all of the people listed simply because I posted scientific facts. When contrary evidence is provided they don't attempt to argue the facts, instead they attack and attempt to discredit the other person.


you guys do that, too, though, and there is a reality of shills - so it's just hard to get through it. i'm just saying, don't always jump to conclusions that people have bad intentions - they just might be confused or fearful that they're being lied to.

i think we should all try to understand each other better.

the 'believers' - ha - should be GRATEFUL for science types and inquire for info, rather than debate
and the 'non-believers' should probably have a bit more of an open mind, a bit less trust of NASA data, haha, and a bit more understanding of where people are coming from
edit on 26-4-2011 by ufoinquirer because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 26 2011 @ 10:57 AM
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Originally posted by Xcalibur254
reply to post by ufoinquirer
 


When contrary evidence is provided they don't attempt to argue the facts, instead they attack and attempt to discredit the other person.


I haven't yet seen any of those you listed post further evidence of their claims of a "star that doesn't emit light" since it has now been debunked.
edit on 26/4/2011 by ATSecretAgent because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 26 2011 @ 11:09 AM
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Originally posted by Xcalibur254
reply to post by ufoinquirer
 


You have to question their motives when they refuse to see any other evidence. I have been insulted by and called a shill by all of the people listed simply because I posted scientific facts. When contrary evidence is provided they don't attempt to argue the facts, instead they attack and attempt to discredit the other person.


You've just described whats been going on and coming from your camp as well.

Hypocrisy and Double Standards at its finest follks



posted on Apr, 26 2011 @ 02:19 PM
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Originally posted by DJW001
www.abovetopsecret.com...]post by ufoinquirer[/url]

All this hysteria?
It's all our fault.

Specifically, it is the fault of PlanetXGuy, truthseeker1111, Terral, Lucus, 9nania, AstrolPatriot and a small number of others who have been exploiting other people by spreading lies for their own ends.


Lies for their own ends? Huh? WHAT ENDS? What if these concerns and the evidence thats been presented which YOU NOR ANYONE has been able to disprove and debunk, turns out to be right soon?

What kind of sick psuedo-skeptic are you? All the above listed names have provided/contributed important data that has yet to be conclusively proven wrong.

You might disagree or HATE THE MESSAGE, but killing the messenger is the same type of retarded mentality that only serves to perpetuate the state of ignorance that entertains nearly 6 billion still asleep on this planet.
Its borderline NAZIESQUE and despicable when rarely have those you listed launched any attacks and the type of ad-hom campaign you and your obfuscation brigade have been doing around here for years under the guise that you're just crusading against those exploiting people, spreading lies and falsehoods, when in fact the opposite is true.

Your arrogance is only matched by your incredible ignorance and inability to consider different perspectives not to mention your condescending tone, sarcasm and ridicule towards those seeking TRUTH which is beyond offensive in a forum designed to discuss theories and find the truth into what you claim there's no evidence for but continually fail to support.

With that said... suck on this ... I fully support it, but hope its wrong. But sadly the evidence suggests otherwise.
www.facebook.com...
when the events many are concerned about begin to happen in SEPTEMBER and the entire planet begins to awaken and see the second sun in AUGUST, i'd give anything to see the look on the faces of all those here whose disinfo, denial and ridicule steered many away from warnings like this that would have otherwise helped them make serious preparations amidst the chaos that you fools can't even begin to fathom.
You want to call this Fear Mongering and hysteria?
As someone said... i'm sure most were saying the same things you are thousands of years ago just before the last major civilization was destroyed... and I think in one time period, there's this little story of NOAH.

AN URGENT WARNING TO ALL .. NOT MUCH TIME LEFT...
by Elenin Ninania on Friday, April 22, 2011 at 5:36am
This information is based on the writings and warnings from 9nania, Sollog & "Mythi" which I've compiled for those who don't have time to filter through all the data and want the bottom line from a very different perspective I submit has the most credibility of all sources I've seen.

From all my research, these are perhaps the most accurate, and important psychic/prophetic & channelled sources to consider if you're wanting insight into whats really about to happen on this planet since what they've previously warned of has already occurred and been validated as some of the links i've posted here demonstrate.

In the coming weeks I'll try to post as many other links and sources I can that my research, data and conclusions are based upon which has literally taken almost 20 years to compile and enabled me to determine the most credible and important sources and separate the above persons as authorities on this issue from all others.

For those who aren't familiar with these people, I highly recommend doing some research while their stories and information are still available. I believe only future generations and survivors will be able to fully understand and appreciate the significance of what they've warned of and are currently warning of for this time period when these events come to pass.

The MATRIX of ELENIN
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Apparently, Comet Elenin may only be a precursor for a far larger and more significant celestial event that will begin in September during its fly-by when another system (most call NIBIRU) that as a whole may be FOUR times the size of JUPITER and on almost the same elliptical orbit as Elenin, will be undeniable to everyone on the planet as a SECOND SUN and pass Earth approximately 0.423AU … Nasa will no longer be able to cover-up this up even though for now Skeptics and disinfo agents will deny this is happening or possible using the argument it would already be causing havoc in our system and would be easily seen by now. But for those who haven't noticed, gravitational/magnetic field effects and earth changes ARE already taking place exponentially and will only increase as this system approaches and we get closer to OCTOBER not to mention the evidence why such an object wouldn't necessarily be clear or fully visible yet.
Then add evidence supporting claims of a Nasa's cover-up, 2012 hysteria and ELENIN being a distraction to hide the truth of this other SYSTEM approaching which will continue until the last moment or when this undeniable second sun appears sometime around August/September.

Neither of these objects will impact, however their passing will cause massive cataclysmic tectonic/seismic events that will rearrange the territorial geography of this planet. If you live in the CALIFORNIA or anywhere on the Western Coastal Region of North America, I highly recommend that you not only consider LEAVING these areas by OCTOBER or at the very least make survival preparations, but ignore skeptics and any Nasa or government officials and media who down-play and call this warning nonsense or based on unfounded hysteria.

9nania and Sollog are among many who have been warning through the ages of these earth changes in this time period, and now especially for the Western North American Coast Region specifically California and Los Angeles. These were the only 2 psychics on the planet who predicted the events on 3/11/11 and that was just a small example of what will happen soon in the Pacific Ring of Fire and on a global scale. On one hand I hope the information and these warnings are wrong, but on the other it may be necessary to bring earth into a higher frequency and aura.

Again, it appears these events will begin with Elenin's Sun-Earth "Alignments" that will directly affect the Pacific Ring of Fire and North American regions around October 2011 triggering more shifts causing a major collapse of the world economy and global havoc that will lead to a massive reduction in the worlds population.

Those that have done their research and are unplugged from the "matrix" of illusion, should seriously consider this message and at the very least begin to prepare which includes researching the safe zones.
Now I'm fully aware that for MOST humans, this scenario is unfathomable and disturbing to say the least, let alone that this could even occur THIS YEAR. But if you take the time to do some serious research and investigation and have the ability to consider a perspective most aren't aware of, the evidence, warnings and signs are clear, undeniable and cannot be ignored very much longer.

So it seems the world as we know it and understand is about to change drastically beginning THIS YEAR 2011, not 2012 as many believe and have been led to believe…

If you think world leaders aren't aware, know or are preparing for this, you haven't been paying attention and are probably still asleep.

Time to wake up


NASA, most governments and many of the elites are well aware of whats about to happen... but they won't be giving this or any warnings to the sheep and sleeping masses. Never.





Lets just say by November, 9nania, Sollog, and someone thats called M ythi will become legends that only those in the future will look back and understand what the ignorant sleeping masses of this generation, couldn't and didn't because of people like you
edit on 26-4-2011 by truthseekr1111 because: (no reason given)



posted on Apr, 26 2011 @ 03:08 PM
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Originally posted by truthseekr1111

Originally posted by DJW001
www.abovetopsecret.com...]post by ufoinquirer[/url]

All this hysteria?
It's all our fault.

Specifically, it is the fault of PlanetXGuy, truthseeker1111, Terral, Lucus, 9nania, AstrolPatriot and a small number of others who have been exploiting other people by spreading lies for their own ends.


Lies for their own ends? Huh? WHAT ENDS? What if these concerns and the evidence thats been presented which YOU NOR ANYONE has been able to disprove and debunk, turns out to be right soon?

What kind of sick psuedo-skeptic are you? All the above listed names have provided/contributed important data that has yet to be conclusively proven wrong.

You might disagree or HATE THE MESSAGE, but killing the messenger is the same type of retarded mentality that only serves to perpetuate the state of ignorance that entertains nearly 6 billion still asleep on this planet.
Its borderline NAZIESQUE and despicable when rarely have those you listed launched any attacks and the type of ad-hom campaign you and your obfuscation brigade have been doing around here for years under the guise that you're just crusading against those exploiting people, spreading lies and falsehoods, when in fact the opposite is true.

Your arrogance is only matched by your incredible ignorance and inability to consider different perspectives not to mention your condescending tone, sarcasm and ridicule towards those seeking TRUTH which is beyond offensive in a forum designed to discuss theories and find the truth into what you claim there's no evidence for but continually fail to support.

With that said... suck on this ... I fully support it, but hope its wrong. But sadly the evidence suggests otherwise.
www.facebook.com...
when the events many are concerned about begin to happen in SEPTEMBER and the entire planet begins to awaken and see the second sun in AUGUST, i'd give anything to see the look on the faces of all those here whose disinfo, denial and ridicule steered many away from warnings like this that would have otherwise helped them make serious preparations amidst the chaos that you fools can't even begin to fathom.
You want to call this Fear Mongering and hysteria?
As someone said... i'm sure most were saying the same things you are thousands of years ago just before the last major civilization was destroyed... and I think in one time period, there's this little story of NOAH.

AN URGENT WARNING TO ALL .. NOT MUCH TIME LEFT...
by Elenin Ninania on Friday, April 22, 2011 at 5:36am
This information is based on the writings and warnings from 9nania, Sollog & "Mythi" which I've compiled for those who don't have time to filter through all the data and want the bottom line from a very different perspective I submit has the most credibility of all sources I've seen.

From all my research, these are perhaps the most accurate, and important psychic/prophetic & channelled sources to consider if you're wanting insight into whats really about to happen on this planet since what they've previously warned of has already occurred and been validated as some of the links i've posted here demonstrate.

In the coming weeks I'll try to post as many other links and sources I can that my research, data and conclusions are based upon which has literally taken almost 20 years to compile and enabled me to determine the most credible and important sources and separate the above persons as authorities on this issue from all others.

For those who aren't familiar with these people, I highly recommend doing some research while their stories and information are still available. I believe only future generations and survivors will be able to fully understand and appreciate the significance of what they've warned of and are currently warning of for this time period when these events come to pass.

The MATRIX of ELENIN
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Apparently, Comet Elenin may only be a precursor for a far larger and more significant celestial event that will begin in September during its fly-by when another system (most call NIBIRU) that as a whole may be FOUR times the size of JUPITER and on almost the same elliptical orbit as Elenin, will be undeniable to everyone on the planet as a SECOND SUN and pass Earth approximately 0.423AU … Nasa will no longer be able to cover-up this up even though for now Skeptics and disinfo agents will deny this is happening or possible using the argument it would already be causing havoc in our system and would be easily seen by now. But for those who haven't noticed, gravitational/magnetic field effects and earth changes ARE already taking place exponentially and will only increase as this system approaches and we get closer to OCTOBER not to mention the evidence why such an object wouldn't necessarily be clear or fully visible yet.
Then add evidence supporting claims of a Nasa's cover-up, 2012 hysteria and ELENIN being a distraction to hide the truth of this other SYSTEM approaching which will continue until the last moment or when this undeniable second sun appears sometime around August/September.

Neither of these objects will impact, however their passing will cause massive cataclysmic tectonic/seismic events that will rearrange the territorial geography of this planet. If you live in the CALIFORNIA or anywhere on the Western Coastal Region of North America, I highly recommend that you not only consider LEAVING these areas by OCTOBER or at the very least make survival preparations, but ignore skeptics and any Nasa or government officials and media who down-play and call this warning nonsense or based on unfounded hysteria.

9nania and Sollog are among many who have been warning through the ages of these earth changes in this time period, and now especially for the Western North American Coast Region specifically California and Los Angeles. These were the only 2 psychics on the planet who predicted the events on 3/11/11 and that was just a small example of what will happen soon in the Pacific Ring of Fire and on a global scale. On one hand I hope the information and these warnings are wrong, but on the other it may be necessary to bring earth into a higher frequency and aura.

Again, it appears these events will begin with Elenin's Sun-Earth "Alignments" that will directly affect the Pacific Ring of Fire and North American regions around October 2011 triggering more shifts causing a major collapse of the world economy and global havoc that will lead to a massive reduction in the worlds population.

Those that have done their research and are unplugged from the "matrix" of illusion, should seriously consider this message and at the very least begin to prepare which includes researching the safe zones.
Now I'm fully aware that for MOST humans, this scenario is unfathomable and disturbing to say the least, let alone that this could even occur THIS YEAR. But if you take the time to do some serious research and investigation and have the ability to consider a perspective most aren't aware of, the evidence, warnings and signs are clear, undeniable and cannot be ignored very much longer.

So it seems the world as we know it and understand is about to change drastically beginning THIS YEAR 2011, not 2012 as many believe and have been led to believe…

If you think world leaders aren't aware, know or are preparing for this, you haven't been paying attention and are probably still asleep.

Time to wake up


NASA, most governments and many of the elites are well aware of whats about to happen... but they won't be giving this or any warnings to the sheep and sleeping masses. Never.





Lets just say by November, 9nania, Sollog, and someone thats called M ythi will become legends that only those in the future will look back and understand what the ignorant sleeping masses of this generation, couldn't and didn't because of people like you
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www.youtube.com...

That took all of a nanosecond.

I'd also like to remind you that the people you mentioned consistenly ignore rebuttals that refute their claims.

Oh, actually, it's the moon.

From the man himself, no less.

www.youtube.com...
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posted on Apr, 26 2011 @ 03:30 PM
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That video had nothing to do with Truthseekers post, further more, if you had actually read the post you would know it should not be visible to the naked eye just yet.



posted on Apr, 26 2011 @ 03:36 PM
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That video had nothing to do with Truthseekers post, further more, if you had actually read the post you would know it should not be visible to the naked eye just yet.


Yeah, you and your ilk have been trumpeting that since 2003.

A brown dwarf would be plenty visible, chum, and, oh, it would tear planets out of their orbits.

But who cares about that, right?

And it has a lot to do with his post, thank you, as he believes that some chucklehead in Manchester filming through a window and 'seeing' an object no-one else can with a cheap phone or camcorder is 'evidence'.

I'll just tell you that RUDDX promptly closed his account and fled in disgrace after he was proven to be an idiot who had no clue how cameras worked.



posted on Apr, 26 2011 @ 04:56 PM
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Even NASA is talking about an object 4 times the size of Jupiter beyond Pluto. The fact that they are saying it "could" be gas giant or probably is a gas giant is neither here nor there. 4 times the size of Jupiter is also the same size as your average brown dwarf.

Source

It is a proven fact, even from a skeptic site that Pluto and Neptune are experiencing climate change and that our Suns own output has diminished slightly, not increased. What is causing the warming on Neptune and Pluto?

Source

The fact is, we do not know exactly what effects this change will cause and exactly when we should expect to feel them in force, science knows very little about brown dwarf stars and I seriously doubt you can say with any certainty whatsoever about it tearing our universe apart, I don't think your an astrophysicist.



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