Alchemy and The Philosopher's Stone is Real

Originally posted by sign00

Originally posted by seagrass

Originally posted by sign00

Originally posted by seagrass
If as above so below.. why do we need a stone at all? If all is a reflection in unity...we should be our own "stones".
Representing the physical alchemy of sun and moon, metal and the four elements.. infused with lifeforce... life-energy.. why do we need salt, and beakers and urine and time? Why need anything to do this? It seems if nature intends us to become golden... we can do this without props and in an instant. That is my "spiritual" take on it. Do we not have this stone within us already? Some say it's the pineal gland. The all seeing eye.

Somehow the stone and its creation seems unnatural to me.

If all is a reflection in unity, then the Stone must exist physically. Every level of reality is a reflection of the one above. This is what the "spiritual" interpreters don't understand: that you cannot have one without the other. The physical world is only a reflection of the spiritual and therefore there is literally a physical Stone. Either that, or the whole concept is bogus (must be all or none!)

To state that each level of reality is a "reflection" of the one above is to assume they are separate sources of light. If all is unity there would be no separation and no "physicality" to need literal anything. i.e. a stone.

We produce the urine in the first place. Are we not source?

If you cannot have one without the other (physicality and spirituality), then the stone is within both. A stone cannot exist physically if it does not exist spiritually.

So if we are source and we are physical, you are saying that there must be a physical stone. Are we not also represented in the spiritually reflected levels in which there is no stone? We are unified with these levels as well. This is what unity means after all.

The word "reflection" implies that there is only one source.

Of course the Stone must exist spiritually as well as physically, is that not exactly what I said?

Though that doesn't make the spiritual interpreters right... because if they don't understand that it must be physical then (even though it would also be spiritual) they are showing themselves not to understand one of the fundamental concepts of the Stone, and therefore showing their opinions on it to already be based on misunderstanding.

There is no level in which there is no Stone, until the dream is escaped entirely and you are somewhere with an entirely different set of rules. If you read the book you would understand that the Stone is simply a concentrated form of the lowest level building block of anything, and so there is no concept of it not existing within this universe (else there would be no universe.)

My misunderstanding then, is a result (of the concentration of the physical elements by a process which occurs outwardly/above in the expanded form through time) of the idea that we must create something outside of ourselves in order to heal ourselves and become "golden" as it were. (from something that comes from within)

You are saying that because we are physical we need a physical stone. One that comes from us, broken down from us to it's basics and then processed like nature would have "sped up time" to create a substance which turns metals to gold. Us to "metaphorical gold". What could be interpreted as a human in it's "golden age" or state. That we must ingest this to attain this. To show as above so below, the book describes the sun and moon etc as the above reflection of this process. Show me below. How does this work?

I do believe I already wrote a book on it.

reply to post by LiveToSpendIt

Then what is all this Philosopher's Stone crap about? Is it a real process or not?

Originally posted by WillowToad
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Then what is all this Philosopher's Stone crap about? Is it a real process or not?

We certainly don't have the understanding necessary to walk this alchemical path. Think "analogically challenged" modern human civilization. We look at the PS as a thing to do; analogically trained theorists used the PS as an expression of an agenda.

If one can manipulate physical medium, ala Tesla via his technical notes and his workable technologies of the early 1900s, direct engineering of the physical medium

Pop guns are atomic weaponry compared to this physics.

This is truly the PS; this thread is about a superficial hocus pocus which has been around since Tesla's times on a much, much grander and important scale and a much, much more grandiose set of visions other than creating personal immortality and unlimited wealth.

People want to waste their time seeking the transmutation of sh** to shinola - good on them. Find the PS? Have at it.

Dumb as Voldermort?

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Hi there alchemist,I had hoped that it might be possible to communicate with to find out how your quest
is progressing.What stage are you now at ?

Originally posted by LiveToSpendIt

Originally posted by WillowToad
reply to post by LiveToSpendIt

 

Then what is all this Philosopher's Stone crap about? Is it a real process or not?

We certainly don't have the understanding necessary to walk this alchemical path. Think "analogically challenged" modern human civilization. We look at the PS as a thing to do; analogically trained theorists used the PS as an expression of an agenda.

If one can manipulate physical medium, ala Tesla via his technical notes and his workable technologies of the early 1900s, direct engineering of the physical medium

Pop guns are atomic weaponry compared to this physics.

This is truly the PS; this thread is about a superficial hocus pocus which has been around since Tesla's times on a much, much grander and important scale and a much, much more grandiose set of visions other than creating personal immortality and unlimited wealth.

People want to waste their time seeking the transmutation of sh** to shinola - good on them. Find the PS? Have at it.

Dumb as Voldermort?

I've been reading other forums and no one has come forward not a single person with any results. They say it is because its personal thing. They say that you have to be worthy. What has Voldemort to do with this?

reply to post by sign00


Sorry, perhaps I should mention that I almost started my own batch but its quite complex for me as I do not have a fixed address, so before I decide to organize myself for a year and a half it would be rather nice to know if its at all
worth the while.Thanks !

Originally posted by WillowToad What has Voldemort to do with this?

Where is Victor Dix and Hans Andriea when you need them?

Victor Dix, a Harry Potter scholar to the infinite, directly involved in the HP series of books, would say that Nicholas Flamel - supposedly - created the Philosopher's Stone in the 14th (??) Century, later giving it to Albus Dumbledore to be destroyed in the 20th Century. It was too dangerous. The destruction of the stone ended Flamel's life. Obviously.

Think about this. The ability to engineer physical medium had great personal benefit - if potential immortality is a benefit- but greater global consequences. Evil would control everything and everyone eternally.

So what we have is a thread about people who are willing to risk the entire human civilization's wee being for their own personal gain.

Super, huh?

Except for one minor - OK supremely major - thing. No one on this forum or any forum or anywhere on this planet has demonstrated they have any clue whatsoever, or any capability of immortality, or any results of the PS process - not one, not ever, so fuggedaboutit.

We're safe.

reply to post by LiveToSpendIt


Personally, I think that the belief that 'anyone' can produce the 'philosopher's stone' with the right 'recipe' is similar to the statement that any 'boy' in America can grow up to be the president. Yes... and no...with an big emphasis on NO. Have you downloaded the book?

Originally posted by WillowToad
reply to post by LiveToSpendIt

 

Personally, I think that the belief that 'anyone' can produce the 'philosopher's stone' with the right 'recipe' is similar to the statement that any 'boy' in America can grow up to be the president. Yes... and no...with an big emphasis on NO. Have you downloaded the book?

I wouldn't dload and then be forced to print this book if the two inches of height it provides by standing on it would save me from a hanging. Reading this story would be like pulling really thick, tangled butt knots out of my golden retriever. Hard to do, dull, and with little or no payoff.

There is no middle ground. As I stated above, the PS can be manifested - heh - and it's a Pandora's Box or it's one more Internet nothingness.

Originally posted by survivalsurfer
reply to post by sign00

 

Hi there alchemist,I had hoped that it might be possible to communicate with to find out how your quest
is progressing.What stage are you now at ?

Good post. Pictures would be required too.

Originally posted by WillowToad
reply to post by LiveToSpendIt

 

Personally, I think that the belief that 'anyone' can produce the 'philosopher's stone' with the right 'recipe' is similar to the statement that any 'boy' in America can grow up to be the president. Yes... and no...with an big emphasis on NO.

Let's look at this "Philosopher"s Stone" recipe logically.

It is also an inescapable conclusion that money, like food, cannot be conjured or transfigured, at least not permanently yet is not the art of Transfiguration, but that of Alchemy, that can alone transmute base metals into gold, and for this, the unique Philosopher’s Stone is required. Even in a legal tender regime, were gold subject to being created by any means from nothingness and to remaining in that state thereafter, nothing would or could stop private contracting parties from agreeing to use Transfigured gold as a means of exchange.

In fact, gold, silver, and copper are capable of being monetised precisely because they are relatively rare; are luxury resources; are divisible; and are impervious to decay: all factors that would be made nonsensical were it possible to caudron-conjure these commodities from the weeds in one’s herbaceous border...or urine.

reply to post by LiveToSpendIt

oooh, I wonder if the CIA and other Illuminati agencies are putting the posters here who used to be making the Philosopher's Stone or maybe they are still!! under surveillance?

Originally posted by WillowToad
reply to post by LiveToSpendIt

 

oooh, I wonder if the CIA and other Illuminati agencies are putting the posters here who used to be making the Philosopher's Stone or maybe they are still!! under surveillance?

I would guess on a scale of 1-10, with 10 being 100%, I'd give it an 11. When you potentially screw with the closed economics, fiat currency, debt=God system, you play with the heartstrings of the Elites.

So, yes, I would think the IAs that monitor the ATS forums have a particular interest in those that have posted that they have the Philosopher's Stone in the making. Maybe that is why in all the forums and in all the globe in all the publications no one has ever come forward with the real PS deal.

Naw, kidding. There is no real PS deal.

Had you going there, didn't I?

reply to post by WillowToad

Don't expect a shiny jewel that glows in the dark. It's boiled piss, after all. That is so ridicule! The real "philosopher stone" is inside you and nothing need to be extracted, boiled, etc. Nosce te ipsum is the only way to find it. It is situated near the navel.

Originally posted by D1ss1dent
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Don't expect a shiny jewel that glows in the dark. It's boiled piss, after all.

The Nazi's thought about the Philosopher's Stone and supposedly made it so I dunno maybe Nazi piss is special.

There are countless records of the Stone existing, being demonstrated, etc. The question is not whether the records exist (50+ are quoted in the book) but whether you ignore them or not.

What nonsense this thread has turned into!

Originally posted by sign00
There are countless records of the Stone existing, being demonstrated, etc.The question is not whether the records exist (50+ are quoted in the book) but whether you ignore them or not

No, that is the question and the book and I use this term loosely talks about PS but does not provide one verifiable source for the creation of the PS. Not one and why, duh, there are none.

What nonsense this thread has turned into!

Turned? It started with nonsense and quickly progressed for pages into more nonsense and has ultimately come back to reality/

Again, anyone out there with as much as proof of Phase One of the PS creation?

No?

Case rested.

Originally posted by sign00
I do believe I already wrote a book on it.

So you admit to this?



Here's some teaching you definetly can use. if you want to write something that people with brains > surgically removed tonsils then you need to learn to reference your work. Reference is not blithering about talking about some pseudo-historical happenings that you have not presented with any evidence other than your own as facts.

Think about it.

Or maybe you knew your adience and wrote your "book" accordingly either way think about how that makes you personally perceived by us with a modicum of intelligence.

Hey, a thought. I bet you don't care.

Originally posted by WillowToad

Originally posted by D1ss1dent
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Don't expect a shiny jewel that glows in the dark. It's boiled piss, after all.

The Nazi's thought about the Philosopher's Stone and supposedly made it so I dunno maybe Nazi piss is special.

I doubt that having known, and still knowing, and pissing next to, on occasion, Nazis.

The Nazi's did have the science behind the nature of what the Philosopher's Stone legend that legend is fairly well represented in J. K. Rowling's Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's (Philosopher's) Stone. The science is not turning piss to pewter or any other such garbage, the science is the dynamic transmutation of energy.

Via EMF manipulation and guess what, so have we! Just Google John Hutchinson and his many anti-gravity floating cannonballs and melted steel experiments and on and on. the Russkies were "Philosopher Stoning" us in the 70s creating cancers in our Moscow embassies and...the list is endless. Nothing special, really, the trick is in getting the Devil's details correct (freq, etc etc etc).

Of course, they did learn this from the Nazis - who stored their piss for decades and sold it to the JewRusko bankers...

KIDDING AGAIN

Yes, the Nazis were very "in tune", tongue in cheek I speak, with EMF but, I am afraid to say, but I shall, that no gold was created and no eternal life, the latter is normally obvious.