Victory in Britain!! Prime Minister says multiculturalism has failed

Originally posted by Hendrix92TheUniverse
Sounds like the damn Spanish Inquisition all over again.

Hateful speech from those who would try to force all others to adhere to their own views.

Not a bit of it mate.

A realistic speech from those who would try to force others to adhere to the laws of the land, and common decency would be a more appropriate statement Hendrix92.

There is nothing hateful about condemning hate crimes matey.

Originally posted by woodwardjnr
I guess I must be the only one to find this thread really depressing, how easy we fall for the divide and conquer techniques. Cameron is deflecting attention away from the cuts and giving a bit of rhetoric to appease the more right wing in the Conservative party. Victory in Britain? I doubt it. Just the age old techniques of the elites to keep us squabling amongst ourselves. Yay for victory

Yay for your avatar!

Ahh...Mr. Ben...that's going back to a time when i absolutely loved everything and everyone...amazing how jaded life can make us isn't it.

Then, all of a sudden, the shopkeeper appeared.

We all new that people who see us as the enemy, the infadels, could not-would not, settle peacefully in the UK or anywhere else were freedom is valued. However, David Cameron is using this to appeal to hard line rascists and divert attention to how he and his lap dog, Clegg, are destroying the country with their savage cuts. Its the classic decoy technique... One wonders when Cameron is finished with this once great nation what will be left for the muslims to take over!?

reply to post by CholmondleyWarner


David Cameron is using this to appeal to hard line rascists and divert attention to how he and his lap dog, Clegg, are destroying the country with their savage cuts. Its the classic decoy technique... One wonders when Cameron is finished with this once great nation what will be left for the muslims to take over!?

And you are correct classic distract and divide tactics . Glad your not fooled brother

reply to post by Doomzilla


Anyone who thinks the latest speech on Muslims was patronising or an attack is gravely mistaken.

There is evidence to suggest many Mosques encourage deteste against Britain and Western ideology. THere are many people protesting on the street.

There's horrible people like this out on the street, further separating ideology and destroying British community and peace. The EDL are guilty too but they don't plot to bomb it's own country.



All we want is for Islamic communities to protest Extremists, to join the unity of Britain, not drive it apart.

reply to post by Doomzilla


I disagree, it's a step in the right direction.

Maybe this means they won't get their Libel law but they may cause upset and tyrrony like they did to the Denmark cartoonists if they don't get their own way.

Wow, is this a sign that the left is starting to wake up to the reality that too much immigration can be bad.

Could it be that liberals are starting to recognize the destruction done to the nations that established liberty, could possibly loose that liberty by excessive immigration.

Maybe liberals in the U.S. might start to wake up and realize that a large influx of immigrants hostile to the host countries culture, and the people of the host country is bad for that country, and a legitimate threat to the liberty that we once enjoyed. Oh yeah, and conservatives have quietly and secretly encouraged massive immigration in all areas.

reply to post by sonnny1

So why not just ban RELIGION? ALL RELIGION?.............................FAIR? I see,just certain aspects of one.......

Because Britain is not a communist country and we believe people have the right to engage in peaceful religious practices.

Notice i said 'peaceful'.

And yes, it's perfectly fair to ban 'certain aspects' of a religion, if those aspects happen to be inciting racial or religious hatred, and calling for violence against those who don't share a belief in that religion.

That's perfectly fair as far as i can see.

And yes, Britons are a fairly sophisticated people, even if i do say so myself. We realise there exists political manoeuvrings and propaganda designed to accommodate evolving agendas, and we realise the majority of British Muslims are normal, even tempered people that do not advocate violence of any kind.

But again, it's not about guarding against 'Muslims'. In fact, the opposite is probably true, and the move is to bolster and support the *moderates among British Muslims*.

That sounds like a completely illogical statement to make doesn't it, but i'll give you my reasoning.

It's common knowledge that Far right wing groups have been gaining ground in not only electoral sessions, but also, more worryingly to the centre and leftist groups of Europe, gaining hearts and minds too.

We have seen the far right parties, especially in France in recent years, *almost* win the general elections and take control of France...we've seen the BNP (British National Party) gaining seats in parliament and in the European parliament.

We also now have a newish group of right wingers called the EDF (English Defence League) staging demonstrations and holding strong 'anti Muslim' views.

I feel this is simply an attempt to appease these groups, and cut off their oxygen of propaganda so they cannot claim PTB are doing nothing about the situation. The idea being that if moderates on the fence over radical Islam feel that action is being taken to curb radicalism from immigrants, then that will be enough to satisfy their angst, and prevent the spread or membership uptake of far right wing groups, a state of affairs that could very easily and very quickly culminate in a bloodbath on the streets of the UK if allowed to go on unchecked.

A clever piece of politics when you analyse it, if this is indeed the case. And as much as Muslims may fear what is around the corner for them, they should take comfort in the fact that the government is attempting to control the very right wing groups, from which they have the most to fear.

Its a good job that that much misaligned and misunderstood loon, Adolf Hitler, didn't copy the muslims plan Isn't it? Otherwise from 1930 right through to 1939 the British immigration board would have been inundated with Germans wanting to settle in the UK..! We've always been safe from our enemies because we are an island which is particularly hard to invade because of our coastline and incliment weather... So muslims are eating it away from within and killing it like a cancer... And while doing so they are getting free homes, their bills paid for and simlpy no one can go against them as they are arrested under our rascism laws.... For instance-
Guy punches another white guy in a drunken brawl gets a hundred hours community service. A guy punches a muslim in a drunken brawl and suddenly its rascist and the guy gets two years in prison!

Originally posted by ollncasino

Originally posted by MacDonagh
reply to post by Haydn_17

 

Doesn't answer my question. What is it to be 'British'? You put ten people in a room and they'll all come up with different answers as it's not clearly defined at all. Don't get me wrong.

Cameron defined British values in his speech: freedom of speech, equal rights and; the rule of law.

British values are not sharia law, arranged marriages and blowing people up on the underground in suicide attacks.

Ah, but wouldn't freedom of speech, equal rights and the rule of law be a pre-requisite of a western democracy?
How can you make disenfranchised Muslims identify with being British when there is no definition of what being 'British' actually means? A symptom of multiculturism perhaps?

Small minded racists will never destroy Britain no matter how much the "media tries to paint it so .
Our biggest threat is the impending nwo , I will not be disracted by anyone who tries to cloud my Judgement . . Be vigilanT NOTHING is as it seems .
Im open minded enough to know that Nothing is safe from corruption , no matter how pleasing on the eye it maybe .

Originally posted by Cosmic.Artifact

Originally posted by arbitrarygeneraiist
And the Crusades 2.0 are back on.

no it's more like the 3rd Jihad

for those about to Rock... we salute you !

Can you imagine the progress the human race would make if Islam conquered the world?

That's right, there wouldn't be any.

reply to post by spikey


Excellent post. Very well put.

Thats exactly how I read the situation. Its damage control.

In idea, this does sound rather well and all. The only phrase in here that gives a rise to suspicion is "musculature liberalism"; though perhaps some cultures do need to be force fed freedom. I'm not in any position to do so, but the fact that there are people that can, perhaps it is an expression of the collective subconscious.

Originally posted by justwokeup
reply to post by spikey

 

Excellent post. Very well put.

Thats exactly how I read the situation. Its damage control.

Thanks very much justwokeup.

Very good of you to say, cheers.

Since a lot of people in this thread like to align yourself with the EDL and claim that I am stereotyping the types of persons involved with the EDL, here's a selection of photographs from recent protests and ofself proclaimed EDL members:

Is this what you align yourself with?











Find me this many images of moderate EDL members. I struggled to find a handful. They're all of thugs like this. I don't care where they were born. If this is what you agree with you can all get out of this country and leave the Islamic extremeists for all I care; if you think 'the majority' want to be associated with this, you're seriously disturbed.

Originally posted by Sphota
reply to post by Darkrunner

 

Greatness so it can recolonize every continent and then later bemoan the collapse of those invaded societies and subsequent re-immigration of the poor, oppressed and dispossessed in those conquered nations? Sounds like you feel like repeating history even though you dislike the outcome?!?

I don't particularly care about the outcome, I am not from the U.K.

I do however see what has become of that country as of late however. Now you are lucky to find someone that speaks English anymore because TPTB turned it into a multi-culti cesspool.

I think the notions behind the EDL at its core are fine but the overall picture is vastly different, while the noble aspect of seeing British people safe from those that would take away our freedoms is sound the actual following is a mix of thugs and people who have no actual clue about the differences in Islamic people.

There ARE Muslims whom live here now or were here like my in-laws since the 50's that actually are fully integrated Brits and proud, sadly there's a significant number of undesirables and Muslims who would sit on the fence and go with the flow at the time.

So the minimal numbers of people that we are told there are has the potential to become quite large depending on the surge at the time. While the militants pose no large threat so far they do have the the ability in time to be.

The general public does not just see what's in the papers or the other media, they go on the way to the shops and schools and see what should be a diverse set of people separated into 2 styles. The people of all colours and creeds who have walked sown the same streets for years often chatting away and then there's the hijab and scarf wearing folk who seem to keep themselves to themselves, not mixing with the other mums at school.

Rogue moderates and militants are the victim of their own making, the barriers are created by their constant requests to be made a separate species who have no wish to mix with us be it at the swimming baths or in the workers lunch places.

Portraying the rest of us as dirty isn't likely to invoke love towards anyone..

reply to post by Pr0t0

Is this what you align yourself with?

Looking forward to xenophobic patriots to respond.

I most definetly wouldn't associate myself with the EDL, doesn't stop me being concerned with Islam and it's alledgedly tame "culture"

Originally posted by TrueInstinct

Originally posted by Cosmic.Artifact

Originally posted by arbitrarygeneraiist
And the Crusades 2.0 are back on.

no it's more like the 3rd Jihad

for those about to Rock... we salute you !

Can you imagine the progress the human race would make if Islam conquered the world?

That's right, there wouldn't be any.

actually this is quite logical, and can be ratified using observation of Muslim culture and progress, I mean they did give us the Abacus and a few learned men from history like Alhazen, but beyond that I am not sure if they have freedoms best interest at heart... Radical muslim culture seems more aristocratic to me and tailored to only the men in their culture where they are allowed to have multiple wives and even child brides.

alot of aspect are truly disgusting imo.