World Gripped By Anti-Government Riots; America Next?

reply to post by VI0811


I am glad that the car pool thing works good for you and I do agree with you that we, as individuals, need to change what we can to better our positions in life. I am strong advocate of "community" type living.

I do hope that you do not think that I was complaining about anything. Other than I get tired of people talkng about how Americans area bunch of sheeple. I do get aggrivated at the fact that most people do not pay any closer attention to current events than they do, but then I am reminded that for most people, this rat race that we call life makes it difficult for them to stay on the cutting edge of everything that is happening. What I have found however, is that when the ones that are able to keep up with it all, sit down and have a civil conversation with them, most are more than willing to listen and learn. I personally know people who literally do not sit down before 8 pm in the evening because of work, kids, sports, church, etc. And they do all of it because they feel that society demands it of them. They know nothing other than running constantly. Other than what news they may catch on their radios or a little bit on their homepage of their computers, they are pretty much out of touch with what is going on. Its the classic "Rat Race" that many have fallen victim too. Yet if those same people happen to get a few minutes to sit down and you can have a conversation with them, it is almost as if they thirsting for information on what is happening in the world outside of their day to day routines. What most people view as apathetic Americans is nothing more than people who live very complicated and busy lives which can all be attributed to our society and what we deem to be a "productive" citizen.

While I have fallen victim to the rat race before in my life, I have been able to detach from it and will not allow myself to get sucked back into it. It is a great way to "distract" the entire population of a country, that is for sure.

reply to post by VI0811


The 64 thousand dollar question is the Egyption military. They are indeed involved. Just because they have not started shooting citizens does not mean that they ar enot involved. Which ever side the military takes, the citizens or the government, will determine weather the President stays or goes. If the President goes, that could very well be a trigger for countries all over the world that are not happy with their governments to start this kind of protesting and rioting. TPTB know this too. First Tunsia, then Egypt, then..........your choice.

The US is having protest demonstrations all over the country today in support of the Egyption people. So in some ways, it has already spread here.

The fact that we could see riots in this country is not really all that far fetched and there are many "triggers" that could start it all.

reply to post by mtnshredder

I resent everything you said, why? Because it's the absoloute truth in a nutshell and I don't like being in the middle of this picture.
As much as I love this country it has become an embarassment and a breeding ground of arrogance and greed. Many citizens in this country are soooooooooo out of touch, it's sickening to watch us just rollover when told.
What pisses me off the most is thinking how hard our fore fathers worked to make this country what it was and watching our current gov and citizens flush it down the crapper, like no ones watching or cares. Americans have endured and over come many hardships, many have died and risked their lifes for our country's freedom and liberties and here we are throwing it all away. Hard to watch.

Look, I can understand why you resent it – but what I really resent is what has happened to our beloved country. I first wondered what exactly is destroying us? I followed the paper trail which turned to be green... money is killing us and taking what ever freedom we have.

My grandfather fought in WWII, my father in Vietnam, my father-in-law in Korea... so much 'blood and treasure' lost only to be slaves to a supposed free market society. What has happened to our country?
Well, there are different kinds of wars – most of the time people think wars are fought with weapons... this time it was fought with money. We have been taken over by corporations, drug companies and bankers. They own us.

It is depressing yes. I have a son – I try not to imagine his hardships in our near future, for it is too depressing.

The only revolution that would work in our country is a completely peaceful one – which would only involve people to stay at home (as stated in my other post).

The world is at a turning point, and as We the Peoples of these United States - “We” need to take our country back from the evil that consumes it.

What is money anyway? Seriously? I keep wondering what is so special about a $20 bill or even the resources that it is supposed to represent. Yes it enables us to buy food, cars and various goods – but eventually all it comes down to is how much of a “rare” yellowish rock exists in a bank vault.

And - like it or not, all of this directly effects every citizen of this country - Democrat, Republican, Independent, or what ever your political offiliation may be.

Originally posted by WraithXV
I'm pretty excited to be honest. I remember walking through New York seeing people everywhere, and the energy of the environment was amazing. If riots where to break out in America, so much energy would be released by the people it'd be bliss.

bliss?
WTF are you smoking?
It'd be blood and guts and defenseless innocents suffering at the hands of thugs( civilian and uniformed)

Originally posted by 46ACE

Originally posted by WraithXV
I'm pretty excited to be honest. I remember walking through New York seeing people everywhere, and the energy of the environment was amazing. If riots where to break out in America, so much energy would be released by the people it'd be bliss.

bliss?
WTF are you smoking?It'd be blood and guts and defenseless innocents suffering at the hands of thugs( civilian and uniformed)

You know - I was thinking the same thing too until I looked at his avatar... he is pretending to be Satan, or Satanic - thus he feels bliss when humanity fights and is afraid.

reply to post by jbmitch


Haha well as long as you're not one of the brain dead psychos who only pledge allegiance to MTV then it's all good

"...the easiest form of government to slide into place is a dictatorship that has an agenda of his own...not concerned about the people. And if they want to protest some more...I'm sure a heavy handed dictator would have no problem killing them all..."

A dictator regardless of how evil hi is , can not kill an entire contry . the tunisian people has demonstrated that dictators are just cowards , all the people have to do is make a revolution , keep protesting , show no fear , and they will run away .

Do you think that Ben Ali and Mubarak are nice and not heavy handed dictators ?
Do you think that somone who was is power for more than 20 yrs will just let the people revolt against him ?

In case of another dictatorship, the people that revolt and made a change once, can do it once again .

Originally posted by Super Katsurio
reply to post by ADUB77

 

How about you not try and discredit Alex Jones' message in the link by misquoting him and charging him of double speak. Alex clearly says, "And if you're not with them [key word being "THEM"], cops and military, AHHH, then you will declare that you're with the Republic now [i.e. with we the people]". So no, Alex is not mixing his words up; but you sure as heck are! I hope you just misheard him, rather than chiming in with a misleading comment to discredit Apodictic's link!? I might not listen to Alex Jones much, but he's entitled to not being misquoted and misrepresented. If you took the time to post, then you should make sure of what you're responding to!

I don't think Alex Jones needs anyone's help to discredit himself. He's already done that quite a few times. He makes a career and money off of continued fearmongering that has little to no basis in fact. Posting articles from him and claiming they are a "serious" journalistic endeavor based in fact is simply not the case.

reply to post by kroms33



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Look, I can understand why you resent it

I meant that with sarcasm(sort of), nothing personal.
Our family tree also has a lot of vets in it going back to the beginning of America. I think everyone of them would be pissed off right now, if they new what was happening to the morals and ethics of the country they fought so hard for.

reply to post by unidentifiednga

The only way the US citizens could make a difference through rioting and whatnot would be to start planning beforehand.

How about not? The biggest attack on the 'system' would be to stop it, grind it to a halt... do nothing.

Yep. When the day comes that we need to make a change - we can not do it with violence, we would be slaughtered.

People will need to help eachother out - people will need to buy food (at least 2-3 months), and people will have to stop buying anything - and stop working completely. America would in essence - stop.

This would effect the bankers, corporations and mega corporations, thus we would have the power to ask our leaders to step down before we went back to work - and we would also tell the bankers and corporations where to go too.

reply to post by 46ACE


Too bad that Korean guy with the light brown vest wasn't larger otherwise I would of mistaken him for Walter Sobchak from the big lebowski...

reply to post by kroms33


Excellent post. I agree 100%.

I would only add that "if" this were to ever take place, people would have to be prepared to secure what is theirs and be ready to protect the friends, families, and homes as it would be a certainty that "crime" would sky rocket during this time. But this can be done through a "community" type of thinking, I believe.

Starving the machine is a plausible solution and I have been trying to do that on a personal level for several years now. But it needs to happen on a huge scale. And I do not know that that is a realistic thing to expect unless people are forced to through inflation or something like that. But I do agree with your assessment.

Originally posted by shermanoaks

 

Excellent post. I agree 100%.

I would only add that "if" this were to ever take place, people would have to be prepared to secure what is theirs and be ready to protect the friends, families, and homes as it would be a certainty that "crime" would sky rocket during this time. But this can be done through a "community" type of thinking, I believe.

Having lived most of my life in the US and have lived (and living) elsewhere my feelings are that there will be little "community" there if and when it becomes dog-eat-dog. The country is highly divided between to ideologies, one where freedom is coveted and the other that welcomes intrusion for another faction to come in and set order. These, BTW, don't always follow along the outwardly expressed ideas some claim - many use contradictory words to express their actual notions of "freedom".

America has slowly been dividing over a long period now, it is almost time to conquer. This conquest will come from internally to subdue its subjects.

reply to post by shermanoaks


I would imagine that a ton of the "crime" would come from rogue cops in civilian clothing. It's just good business to help spur demand for your product or service.

I have to admit to being shocked by some of the previous posts. If there is one country on this small planet that could fight back against the corrupt government I would think it would be America yet it seems they have just capitulated and rolled over! Wouldn't be so bad if I hadn't read scores of posts on here in the past made by gung-ho Americans who couldn't wait to stand up to the elitists... With much of Europe now on tender hooks and the UK about to erupt I guess America will do as they did in the WW2 and join the party late...?

reply to post by romanmel

I feel that for anyone to launch a revolution, they must have core values. Amongst the under 50's crowd in the US there are no real core values or even an understanding of BigGov's tyranny. They, by in large, are self centered and lack the ability to do much more than bitch about their plight on sights such as this. They are entertainment drunk and lack fortitude. In other words, most will eventually accept their slavery to the state. No massive crowds protesting in the streets of Amerika...not while the masses have the Super Bowl or Dancing With The Stars.

That is the current situation. I am sure the same conditions existed in Egypt and Tunisia. Popular uprising can happen very quickly. Thereis no need to have policies otr core values just the need to rebel. Core values are made on the hoof.

However what happens after the uprising? How are things better?

I am not preaching rightism or leftism but look at The Soviet Union for the first three years and then look at how Stalin changed it.

reply to post by Anttyk47


" Infowars is very fearmongering IMO and putting the words Fearmongering and "World Gripped By Anti-Government Riots; America Next?" together makes for bs :O "


You have Eyes , but you do Not See.........
You have Ears , buy you do Not Hear .......
You have a Mind , but you do Not Think .......
You have Life , but not for Long..........


Fearmongering ? The Evidence All Around us does Not Lie.............

Originally posted by CholmondleyWarner
I guess America will do as they did in the WW2 and join the party late...?

We were not invited to that party.

reply to post by mtnshredder


Until japan gave us an open invitation

Poor old America; as usual can't do anything right in the eyes of the world. If people are in open rebellion, says the narrtative, that must be because they are ignorant, gun-toting hicks expressing the national penchant for violence that characterizes this most barbaric and bloodthirsty of lands. If, on the other hand, nothing happens and people go about their lives, then that, too, is a cause for much consternation and hand-wringing: Those fat lazy yanks who can't be bothered to move from in front of the TV, dontcha know...

Faced with such an endless drumbeat of criticism on all sides, what's an honest seppo to do? I recommend putting on your Huck Finn hat, kicking off the shoes, and dangling your bare feet in the neaest trout stream (weather permitting, of course.) Bring a nice old-timey picknic basket with something tasty and be sure to slip a slim volume under your arm...perhaps something by Walt Whitman, say, or maybe some Transcendetalist screeds from one of the old Concord wrascals like R.W. Emmerson. Go get yourself lost in a big medow and contemplate the soughing pines and the creaking of wind-tossed elms.

All this is very much America, you know, far more than the strip-malls and the sweatshops and the slaughterhouses. And its still possible to find and get lost in for just about everyone if they put some elbow grease into it. No McDonalds, no gun-toting rabble, no TV for mythic vegging out in front of...just you and nature and the big sky, with focused awareness and a nice open mind that mirrors the blue, blue sky. And the fact that such places and experiences are largely ignored by the judgemental Euros, blinded as they are by cliches of guns, burgers, and videodromes, makes such natural liminal spaces all the more attractive.