Dealing with cops, understanding your rights,.... by a cop.

reply to post by GogoVicMorrow
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video#1:

That officer showed impecable restraint in what he did. He was outnumbered and struck the female (both were felons) he used the appropriate level of force to counter a threat and let me tell you something just because its female doesnt mean anything. I would prefer a fight with a male over a female. He was completely justified in his actions

video#2: the video doesnt show what happened before hand. it only shows a bunch of guys on the ground. show me a link as to the full story

Video#3: A grandma being tasered so what. She was listening to the officer and he used an appropriate level of force as well. He chose not to slam her on the ground, strike her with a baton or pepper spray her. On the side of a highway the taser stopped her in her tracks and he protected her as well from her running into traffic.

Both videos show appropriate levels of force, there is not enough information to determine the second one

reply to post by TKDRL


sounds like an exagerration

reply to post by surfnow2

Thanks, you and I know the truth, but I'm afraid our words are falling on deaf ears. I had a guy in another forum that didn't believe or agree with the things that I said. It just so happened that he lived in my state, NC, and drove down to go on a ride along. By the end of the night he was singing a different tune. Thanks again for the support and all that you do. Keep your head down brother.
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reply to post by andy1033


If it were true in my area, I'd admit, but that is not the case. On the other hand, if we have someone that we know is slinging drugs, of course we are going to watch him and look for an opportunity to arrest him. Why wouldn't we?
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reply to post by seeashrink


Its true in our area london. For no reason they did this to me, for 19 years. The police have tried desperately to get me to do something and nothing. So if i never did anything after 19 years of being watched, do you think they will continue till i die with this stuff. Remember not one crime and it was proven to them.

For anyone that thinks the police do not know, my life has proven the police in london know about gang stalking.

But on topic, my first paragraph was aimed at seeashrink. They did this to me for no reason other than trying to get me to do something, so that is what you guys do, target innocent people for your friends without any crime to destroy a person for no reason.

No wonder the police have such a bad name.

reply to post by seeashrink


The excuse of "Your vehicle matches the description" IS BULL!!!!

I have been pulled over 4 times in my short life for this "reason" and every time they asked to search the vehicle and run my info... NOW its not just VEHICLE its YOU MATCH A description and its BULL!.
It a way for them to get around your constitutional rights.

REMEMBER: FOLLOW A COP HOME DAY! Take a day and catch the cops /TSA workers on a shift change, follow them home and let them know we know where they live. When they stop feeling invisible and invencible they will cut this # out.


Alexander Solzhenitsyn - Oh how we burned in the prison camps, later thinking: what would things have been like if every police operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive? If, during periods of mass arrests, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood that they had nothing to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers or whatever was at hand? The organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalins thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt.

"THEY CAME FIRST for the Communists, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist. THEN THEY CAME for the trade unionists, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist. THEN THEY CAME for the Jews, and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew. THEN THEY CAME for me and by that time no one was left to speak up."

MAKE THE SCUM REMEMBER THEY ARE HUMANS AND NOTHING WITHOUT THEIR TIN BADGE.

The low I.Q. fracks are brainwashed. REMEMBER: The police do not keep you safe, they show up afterward and fill out reports on what has happened to you. Speeding tickets and seatbelt laws do not keep you safe, YOUR CHOICE TO WEAR THEM or NOT SPEED does keep you safe and how do you make that choice EDUCATION.

Laws and Police are just an Illusion.
Its ok to DO AS YOU LIKE as long as you are hurting no one, property or stopping them from expressing their freedoms.

Everything else is just a way to make money from you for being human.

For some of us who still have our second amendment right observed in our state.

Make sure on a stop for any reason, keep your hands on the wheel till the officer is at your window, use one hand to open the window, and when he/she asks for license and registration, politely inform him/her that you are armed (if you have a concealed carry permit or right in your state) or that there is a weapon in your vehicle, and it's location.
Especially if you keep it in the same place as your registration and insurance papers.

No matter the mental state of the officer, this drops the tension level, as he/she doesn't have to guess if you are a threat.
Threats, as a rule, usually don't inform the officer first.

Originally posted by maybereal11
reply to post by seeashrink

 

First...whenever I was pulled over...if there is a parking lot nearby or a gas station, someplace off the road...slowly pull in there. It is safer for the cop than having to get out and stand beside your car on a very busy highway.

This makes sense. Unless the first thing the cop says to you is: "Why are you trying to run away?" and then he cuts off everything you try to say. Apparently they expect you to pull over on a busy street and endanger themselves. Anything else is suspicious.

It's the last time I care about your safety just so you can accuse me of trying to run from you.

reply to post by gotrox


Good post! Lord knows they want ANY excuse to kill you or cost you money either through tickets or courts.
Either way your death or fine serves their purpose.

reply to post by danj3ris


Remember, they are ONLY looking for reasons to jail / fine or kill you. THEY DO NOT CARE ABOUT YOU YOUR FAMILY OR RIGHTS.

Sure there are 5 cops that really care about this country and its citizens but the rest only care to serve their ego, greed and masters.

Originally posted by Loki Lyesmyth
reply to post by danj3ris

 

Remember, they are ONLY looking for reasons to jail / fine or kill you. THEY DO NOT CARE ABOUT YOU YOUR FAMILY OR RIGHTS.

Sure there are 5 cops that really care about this country and its citizens but the rest only care to serve their ego, greed and masters.

the language in your posts suggest that you have a serious problem and need to get some counseling. if this is somehow satire or your way of being amusing...neither has been accomplished.

reply to post by seeashrink

"Sovereigns/freemen have blown up buildings, killed cops, held up banks, printed counterfiet money, inpersonated foreign diplomats, made counterfiet licenses, license plates, Social Security cards, and ID cards. They clog the courts with useless paperwork. You folks sound a lot more like part of the problem than the solution".

Interestingly enough, I didn't see any freeman jumping in to address this. Or is this just the ugly side that you don't talk about?

Police officers/government agents have blown up buildings, killed innocents, held up banks, printed counterfeit money, impersonated foreign diplomats, made counterfeit licenses, license plates, Social Security cards, and ID cards. They clog the courts with suspects who have committed victimless crimes. You folks sound a lot more like part of the problem than the solution.

How quickly most officers forget that they and their collegues are not angels either, but still assume they are above the law. Is this the ugly side that cops don't talk about?

reply to post by jimmyx


I do not condone any harm to anyone, I respect people and their freedom, even their freedom to do harm to themselves but NEVER others.

The US laws are a joke. They are invisible taxing on the people for being HUMAN.

Everyone makes mistakes.

In a truly free system there are only 3 laws.
You cannot harm a person, you cannot harm property, you cannot restrict or harm anyones freedom or property.
If any of these laws are broken in ANY way then fine/punishment may/will follow.

Everything else, Speeding tickets, seatbelt laws, insurance both home and auto etc are all just hidden taxes in a manner of speaking.

THAT IS IT. Everything else is just a tax on being human.

BEFORE you jump on the reply put some serious thought into it.

Any law used as a "deterrent" and brings about fines/restrictions is a bogus law, NO CRIME HAS BEEN COMMITTED until AFTER the event.

Police are just TAX collectors for the corporations known as cities and states.

Originally posted by Azp420
reply to post by seeashrink

 

"Sovereigns/freemen have blown up buildings, killed cops, held up banks, printed counterfiet money, inpersonated foreign diplomats, made counterfiet licenses, license plates, Social Security cards, and ID cards. They clog the courts with useless paperwork. You folks sound a lot more like part of the problem than the solution".

Interestingly enough, I didn't see any freeman jumping in to address this. Or is this just the ugly side that you don't talk about?

Police officers/government agents have blown up buildings, killed innocents, held up banks, printed counterfeit money, impersonated foreign diplomats, made counterfeit licenses, license plates, Social Security cards, and ID cards. They clog the courts with suspects who have committed victimless crimes. You folks sound a lot more like part of the problem than the solution.

How quickly most officers forget that they and their collegues are not angels either, but still assume they are above the law. Is this the ugly side that cops don't talk about?

edit on 17-1-2011 by Azp420 because: (no reason given)

THIS IS WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT! Thank you

reply to post by Loki Lyesmyth


More bad advice, it just keeps coming. You follow a cop home and you are on an entirely different playing field. The only way this will end is badly for you. Cops are vicious about protecting our families and you are right, our "tin badge" will mean nothing. Please readers, don't do anything this stupid. We receive threats all the time and we are use to it. But, you endanger our families? God help you. All I can say is "may you be in heaven 30 minutes before the devil knows you're dead" Baaaaad mojo, baaaaaad advice.
Seeashrink

reply to post by Azp420


I have admitted to bad cops, evidently it is the freemen that are the angels. I don't only talk about it, I do something about it. What are you doing besides spouting off?
Seeashrink

reply to post by seeashrink

Now, does any of this sound familiar, of coures it does and that is exactly what will happen. I'd say in less than 10 years you will be right back to where we are today.

Except without nearly 50% of the average mans income being stolen from him with the threat of violence by government thugs. Where honest citizens are not held in cages for "crimes" that have no victim.

All of you are just spouting off with words and case law and the first time someone breaks in your house or your car, you will call me, the police officer, because that is your only choice and chance of anything being righted.

If that's all someone can afford they yes, they probably will call you (not that it will be much help in finding their property of preventing such a thing from happening again). If they were not forced with the threat of violence to pay for your services they would probably hire a private investigator with the money instead. Don't think that you're special just because most people are forced to pay for you and not make their own choice.

Many of you have gotten in trouble with law and you are angry because you were doing something wrong and got caught, not much different from a child throwing a tantrum.

In my opinion this is pretty much the problem with police culture. There is absolutely no room for free thinking. The law is assumed to be the be all and end all of what is right and wrong. (Those politicians and lawmakers are just such an honest and moral lot aren't they?) I think the quote in my sig would apply to most LEOs.

reply to post by seeashrink


See they are afraid when it comes to bringing them down to the same level as everyone else.

They can do whatever they want to you and your family, BUT DON'T even mention theirs...

2 classes of citizen, those who work for the GOV and the rest of us.

= is =

reply to post by andy1033


I have had this happen to me personally.

reply to post by Loki Lyesmyth

Educate yourself. Many of the laws such as seatbelt and helmets come from the insurance lobbyist trying to keep their company from having to pay out claims. Right now as we speak, the insurance industry is trying to get a law passed that all bumpers will be at an equal height as to match all other bumpers. What do think that is going to cost the auto makers? What do you think that is going to cost you? Maybe you should try and find another tree to bark up. Or maybe you should just move to another country that better suits your needs. And uh, don't forget your donkey.
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