The Truth about the 33 miners/Copiapo mining accident

Originally posted by TheTruthIsFromGod
This accident is 100% staged and is a psyop for the coming false Messiah and the release of Gog and Magog:


Weird, 08/22/2010 ............all of these numbers add up to 33 as well........8+22+2+1=33.
Of course I vehemately disagree with him about the way he sees Jesus. I know Jesus loves me and all, and he never would have died for us at all if he couldn't do something for us. he didn't die for GOD....he died for US. So this guy can cram his ideas about Jesus...but the other stuff.....who knows, without evidence it's just his opinion and make-believe story. He is an anti-christ himself the way he speaks of my lord. Here's someting interestig for everyone to investigate....the very guy who put out this video RAJ PATEL, google his name....it seem HE is battling all kinds of accusations of being the Matraiya himself (False Jesus). Here are just a few links to get you started:

Raj Patel is not the messiah!

Raj Patel denies being the "World Teacher" Matraiya

Raj Patel - Maitreya or just "a dude"?

Raj patel is maitreya says religeous group

Is Raj Patel, in fact, the long awaited Maitreya, the "World Teacher"?

Oh WTH.....just click here for pages of this stuff!

I am not saying he is or not, I have no clue, but i find it odd that he is making accusations and condemning men as if he KNOWS what they have done, with no obvious proof of it. Sounds like a false prophet to me. I suppose that's why he felt the need to say things like Jesus was a man, A DEAD MAN, and that he cannot do anything for you. He knows that man was condemned by GOD because we broke his contract and without te acceptance of Jesus' new covenant (contract with GOD).....you are still condemned...only a false prophet would deter one from getting salvation from Jesus Christ! He`s correct that Jesus will not be seen until he comes back for Judgement but Jesus is not a dead man, he did die.........but what Raj is not informing you of, is that Jesus rose again and ascended to heaven to make our homes with him. He died for everyone who will accept his gift and it is a free gift to ALL who accept. I wonder how much money this Raj Patel has made off of the backs of others. He is at least a millionaire himself, from the looks of things I would say multi-millionaire. How`d that happen.........just askin.

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Originally posted by mr-lizard
reply to post by TheTruthIsFromGod

 

But if according to the bible, God created man in his own image, and gave men free-will.... Why punish them?

Why does YOUR god like punishing people? Maybe you worship satan?

This is the best response ever to this type of thread. I literally couldn't have said it better myself. Some people need to analyze their beliefs and what they mean. As you say , maybe he has confused the god he worships

Originally posted by TheTruthIsFromGod
reply to post by TWILITE22

 

You're among the ones who will soon pay... The threat directly comes from God. You've responded negatively to the test.

God doesn't threaten. The god you are talking about must be the Annunaki. They created the religions afterall.

Originally posted by TheTruthIsFromGod


God has always used this method, that's not my choice, I have no other ambition than obeying God. No matter who I am, you're the one who is focusing on my person instead of my message... that's not the right thing to do.

You want to obey God? I thought God taught compassion, kindness? These qualities seem to be somewhat lacking in your responses to people on this thread.

God told us not to judge - but you seem to have taken on the role of judging people in his place.


Both of these are characteristics I frequently see in dyed-in-the-wool Christians..

Hello God's Messenger. I was very interested in your posting history so I decided to visit another of your threads. I quote you from your thread www.abovetopsecret.com...

Here's my proof that I am truly well guided. Those who will believe in my message/proofs are those who will be saved and will be protected and rewarded. And for those who will reject it, don't be surprised by what will happen to you in a close future, you'll blame only yourself

I guess my question to you is, are you certain you yourself are not a false prophet? I am basing this on your beliefs that you have shared with us, not my own. Honestly it is the hypocrisy that kills me in all this, I mean it is so blatant yet is completely ignored. I think you have a lot of intellectual growing to do broham.

**Edit** Sorry, I am just finding so much richness in your other threads. Here is another nugget I think the rest of the people following this thread might appreciate. From your thread here www.abovetopsecret.com...

There is no intermediaries (priests, imams, rabbis,...), no uniform, no symbol, no "pagan" rituals, that's all non sense and have been introduced by the Devil.

You seem to be playing the intermediary part quite well on ATS.....

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I could spend all night on this one, but I'll try to stay focused on just a couple items.

I do not call myself a Christian because I don't profess to believe what Christians are taught to believe. Having said that, I do believe in Yahshua (Jesus). You state he is dead. Okay...prove it. There is much much more evidence for him having raised from the dead than there is otherwise. I read in the video an article where it said their minds played tricks on them. You go stay in a place like that under those terrible conditions and I can guarantee you will see things too. And they have every right to say Jesus was there with them if that is what they felt in the whole of their being. How can you deny these guys to believe whatever it took for them to survive? Shame on you. BTW...god is everywhere....EVERYWHERE. As for the dead being brought back to life...there are ancient manuscripts in a book called the Bible which state that after Jesus ascended, his apostles raided the dead. Many of these manuscripts date back to within 150 years after Jesus' death. Do you actually think the people that wrote of these things were just making them up? Many died terrible deaths for what they knew to be true. People don't die for a lie like that.

I think you watch too many illuminati videos on YouTube. Not that I don't believe in the illuminati, I do. But not everything that happens has an evil plot behind it. You're paranoid or bored. You need to start looking for some good in the world or you're going to go wacky. I had a friend that would see illuminati everywhere. And I mean EVERYWHERE. It can become an obsession. If you have so much free time to give to stuff like this, I suggest you try going to a children's hospital and giving out some toys or something. Sorry for the rant, but I cried when I saw those men coming out. I spent time in caves when on geological field trips in college. I was only down there maybe 2-4 hours and I wanted out. It's scary as hell down there. AGGGH... Be blessed...go have a Mt. Dew or something and chill out...you may live longer. Puzzle and have one for me please.

Originally posted by Kajax
I think this guy needs a medical prescription or two for this voice in his head.

I hear no voice in my head.

The possessed people are the ones who hear voices in their head and I am not. The possessed ones are lost people who are being lost by tricky devils. God sends the devils to lose those who disobey him and refuse him as their Sole Master.

God's inspiration has nothing to do with possession, God simply leads me on the approriate information on the right time, God makes me do the right connexions in my head, there is no magic in this, God is far higher than you can imagine. God is the Almighty, God can guide whoever he wants and God decides all the matters. He can make you forget yourself and he can also wake you up. God guides the fair people and lose the evil ones because of their unjustice.

Originally posted by Silver Star
In all honesty TheTruthIsFromGod, I didn't watch the video because 15 minutes is a long time - especially when my interest was cursory....

What has interested me are your polemic posts in response to criticism so I thought I'd take the opportunity to ask a question. Please note, this is a genuine question that I have never had the opportunity to pose to a person of your mindset in real life.

I do not believe in God, in any way, shape or form, but I am a good person and I appreciate the positive teachings of all religion. So where does that leave me?

I haven't spat in the face of God, but I don't believe in him/her/it either. Does this mean that I'm going to hell, in your opinion?

This is a parable for you:

Imagine a rich and powerful benefactor who provides you anything you need (money, love, protection, knowledge...), who never harms you and never asks you a service in return, and imagine that you are very nice with everyone on earth except with this man and that you totaly ignore him and never even give thanks to him. Is it not an horrible behaviour?

That's exactly what are the people who die without even knowing that God exists or who knew him but ignored him, and they're even worse than that...

Do you know who will be the worst people in hell???
Those who were thinking that they were doing good during their whole life whereas they were doing bad, and there are plenty of these people today.

If you really are what you claim to be, I am sure that God will manifest to you before your death and will give you a true faith in him. God never judges us for what is beyond our knowledge/limits. FOR SURE, God manifests himself to everyone on earth under signs which are personal to each person, and only the unfair people put these signs in their back whereas they now they're from God. Only the unfair people ignore the Call of God and therefore God makes them forget him and themselves once for all.

Originally posted by jordin36

Originally posted by TheTruthIsFromGod
reply to post by purplemonkeydishwasher

 

I am not speaking about any Christian faith, I am speaking about submitting to the Master of the Universe, your Creator and mine. He's the God of Moses, Jesus and Muhammad and his orders are now contained in the Koran. He's the God of the whole universe, can you deny that?

Don't obey if you want, you'll soon pay the price for it... that's what you want?

Yes it's quite easy to deny, it's only self-evident to people that have been spoon fed this rot as truth. Ask a tribesman in the Amazon or an Inuit or any member of a society that isn't completely tainted with one of the Big 3 religions. Its all bull# but you fundies love it, it means there is someone watching over you and giving you purpose. Grow up.

Think about your own personal case, you're not asked to think about the Amazonians or about any ancient tribe... these people are lost and it shows, God will judge them accordingly to their limits/knowledge and God will judge you accordingly to your knowledge too.

Most of the Amazonians have no access to this information and God will not blame them for that, but YOU have access to this info and to God's lats perfect books: the Koran,etc etc ... and you'll be judged accordingly to your knowledge. No need to elude the matter and to speak about the others, just speak for yourself.

reply to post by sputniksteve


I am not asking the people to worship me instead of God, I am not asking the people to put me as an intermediary between them and God, I am merely asking them to follow my recommandations:

Worship none but God who is your Master and Mine and obey him directly without taking any intermediary just by reading the Koran and obeying it DIRECTLY. Where have you seen that I put myself as an intermediary?

The ones who say to you that you have to pass by them to get closer to God are the false prophets, I am advocating you the exact opposit: TAKE GOD AS YOUR SOLE PATRON AND TAKE THE KORAN AS YOUR SOLE GUIDE. (just like God has ordered us, just like I am doing myself and just like do the true believers)

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With everything i've read in your posts i have to say you sound as if you are one shy step away from being an extremist. Why are you so hell bent on forcing your beliefs on others? I very much doubt God is the hateful being you're making him out to be, I wouldn't be suprised if God was in utter shock because of people like you twisting his words to suit yourself, you make me sick.

I don't follow any 'religions' because i just don't think i should believe in God in a 'certain' way. Do you realise that any books that was written about God was written by MAN and not God himself? What makes you think you know what is in God's mind and what he wants from the human race because i don't think that man (an imprefect creature) can understand a being who created everything?

If you actually believe that God wants to 'punish' us and that you believe that you are personally 'safe' because you feel that you are a 'true' follower or what-not then you clearly have some mental issues you need to sort out, go get help - REAL help.....from a hospital preferably....

Originally posted by TheTruthIsFromGod
If you really are what you claim to be, I am sure that God will manifest to you before your death and will give you a true faith in him. God never judges us for what is beyond our knowledge/limits. FOR SURE, God manifests himself to everyone on earth under signs which are personal to each person, and only the unfair people put these signs in their back whereas they now they're from God. Only the unfair people ignore the Call of God and therefore God makes them forget him and themselves once for all.

Thanks for taking the time to reply to my question.

It will indeed take a manifestation from God, or some kind of sign, in order for me to see the error of my ways (from your perspective) and start subscribing to any particular religion.

Should I receive a sign that confirms to me the existence of God and I choose to ignore it, then you are right, I could understand how that could invoke the wrath of God - but I haven't had one yet and what if one is not forthcoming?

What do you suggest? That I suspend my disbelief and force myself to worship some kind of higher power? I appreciate that your motives are to try and warn people, but using fear to get your message across instantly raises the heckles of your 'audience'.

Originally posted by Silver Star
Thanks for taking the time to reply to my question.

It will indeed take a manifestation from God, or some kind of sign, in order for me to see the error of my ways (from your perspective) and start subscribing to any particular religion.

Should I receive a sign that confirms to me the existence of God and I choose to ignore it, then you are right, I could understand how that could invoke the wrath of God - but I haven't had one yet and what if one is not forthcoming?

What do you suggest? That I suspend my disbelief and force myself to worship some kind of higher power? I appreciate that your motives are to try and warn people, but using fear to get your message across instantly raises the heckles of your 'audience'.

God is not asking you to subscribe to any religion, the organized religions (Islam, Christianity, Judaism...) are mere sects. God asks us to simply recognize the Truth and to act accordingly to it. It's 100% sure that God provides CLEAR signs for any human being, the problem is that some people don't even see these signs because of their own blindness/injustice. All you have to do is to act honestly and fairly according to your current knowledge and God will come to you. Many people prefer to ignore the Truth just because they don't want to redeem themselves, it would change too many things in their life.

It's a good thing that you don't worship God if you don't believe in him, and it's a good thing that you've not closed the door to God. It's a smart and wise behaviour to be aware of our own limits and to not limit the Truth to our own limits. God is aware of everything and I REPEAT to you that if you're truly fair and interested in knowing the Truth, God will come to you for sure, even a second before your death if necessary.

About my "threats", I am not threatening anyone, I am reminding the people that there is a limit, there is deadline, whether it pleases them or not, once this deadline is reached, God lets the consequencies of our actions fully fall on us. The Apocalypse is true and real whether the people accept it or not. God has provided us clear signs for the Apocalypse and the year 2010 is full of these signs, so I am not threatening the people, I am fairly warning them as my God has ordered me and I've not created my own mission, I am just obeying what I am ordered by God.

reply to post by TheTruthIsFromGod

Be smart, when I see white, you see black.

Be smart? I’m not the one following a book of commandments written by men and sold as the word of God. You do realise that all holy books were physically written by the Human hand, don’t you?

Their authors may well have accessed a primitive side of the brain (bicameral mind) to allow them to create such stories, but in the end it all boils down to the threat of death if you don’t follow the word of God. And fear is a very powerful tool.

I am not even surprised by your reaction, I am not even angry at you.

Good. I take that you mean because I am a “demon” than my reaction to your proselytizing didn’t shock you?

I bet you’ve received the same reaction before, haven’t you? Ever wondered why? A clue; its’ got zip to do with God’s word…

I am not threatening you…

If you utilize and promote a concept of damnation or salvation via a set series of “divine” concepts and rules, and state quite categorically that a refusal to believe in these concepts will result in damnation, then you are threatening me.

Perhaps your supercilious bigotry has blinded you to that little fact?

…I do no wish you anything bad, that's your beahviour that puts you into a great danger…

I can guarantee that you just lied in those opening words. That you said I was damned to hell by my own words gave you a little thrill of justification, didn’t it?

And before you reply to that, remember that God hates a liar.

…the danger will directly come from God.

So God is dangerous? There’s the threat again. If you’d been born in the middle ages, you would have carried a metal oven around with you to burn cats alive in so as to demonstrate just what hell sounded like.

This is a parable for you: if you split on the face of a very very powerful guy, what do you expect in return???

And a threat again!!!

I’m spitting in no one’s face; what I’m doing is raging against your scornful intolerance, which is based solely on a written source of control.

You're just behaving that way and I am warning you to not split on this very very powerful guy.

And what’s wrong with standing up to a bully? I’d rather go down fighting against intimidation and tyranny than be a quisling like you.

reply to post by Beamish


I think you've repeated enough times your point of view, I've answered you too, no need to lose more time with me.

reply to post by TheTruthIsFromGod

I think you've repeated enough times your point of view…

Excuse me?

I’ve repeated myself enough times?

So it’s ok for you to continuously harangue people through the threat of damnation to follow the Quran, but if we argue against you for any length of time then you get bored?

Let’s add hypocrisy to your ever-growing list of character flaws. Chew on these from the first two pages of this train wreck and tell me that you’re not a hypocrite:

Only those who have eyes and fear God can truly see the Truth about this story, the rest have bought the illusion of Satan and are already condemned.

This story is a kind of Test: those who think this story is a miracle and has united Humanity and has brought a new hope are the lost ones, those who see in it a sign of the Apocalpyse and of the release of Gog and Magog are those whose eyes have been opened by God.

The first category will be the victims of Gog and Magog and the Apocalypse, except if they repent and submit to God.

Don't obey if you want, you'll soon pay the price for it... that's what you want?

You're among the ones who will soon pay... The threat directly comes from God. You've responded negatively to the test.

You're confirming your nickname, I do not expect the demons to rally God, just wait, you'll soon receive what you deserve, I am just a fair warner.

You're buying the Truth of Satan instead of the one of God. Therfore, what else can you expect than being among the vitcims of God?

I am a fair warner and I cannot make see the blind ones. God will decide your fate.

My warnings are a mercy from God to you, but apparently you prefer to focus on the threating aspect, which means that you're not willing to obey God, which means that you're an ennemy of God.

God make the rules, not you, God has decided the Apocalypse far before your creation, either you accept it or not, you have no other choice than obeying. You'll obey God willingly or unwillingly... in paradise or in hell.

So forgive me if I repeat the philosophy of Bender as to where you can place your lips?

As to the subject of this thread; you have failed miserably to try and convert anyone to your cause.

And as far as your perceived perfection of the word of God in the Quran; something is seriously amiss with your “mission” (my emphasis):

O ye who believe! Be ye helpers of Allah: as said Jesus the son of Mary to the Disciples, "Who will be my helpers to (the work of) Allah?" Said the Disciples, "We are Allah's helpers!" then a portion of the Children of Israel believed, and a portion disbelieved: But We gave power to those who believed against their enemies, AND THEY BECAME THE ONES THAT PREVAILED. S. 61:14

What does that tell you? “And they became the ones that prevailed”.

So, by your own reckoning – following the “word of God” – you should have triumphed over all criticism if you were doing God’s work.

You’ve prevailed over nothing in this thread - just count up the posts that disagree with you.

Epic, catastrophic, fail.

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That's my thread, nobody force you to stay here, go open your own thread and say what you want in it. From now, you'll simply be ignored as you lack of respect.

reply to post by TheTruthIsFromGod

That's my thread…

And it’s open to all members of ATS. If you think I’m trolling or harassing you, contact a Mod. I’m not worried about the outcome.

…nobody force you to stay here, go open your own thread and say what you want in it.

Your poor attitude, bigotry, and illogical view of Humanity forces me to respond.

From now, you'll simply be ignored as you lack of respect

Respect? Where’s the respect in telling me that I’m going to burn in hell just because I don’t fall for your ruse?

God is beyond the reasoning of man.
Anyone who proclaims to understand God's will or plan is moving further away from God itself, notice I do not say him. God is beyond our understanding, to understand God is to become God (none of us are Gods, even you OP).

God is creation and everything in it. It is the force of nature, love and understanding. I believe that you should not fear God, or bow down and scrape to God. Love life to the full, enjoy everything this universe has to offer. Love you fellow beings, regardless of race, creed or religion. Respect the world around you. This is honouring God and creation. Not some dusty old book written by power hungry men.

God is creation and creation is God. Celebrate it and you become more. Ignore it and you condem it to destruction.
Live a good life. Love and respect. That is the true path to salvation.
Peace to you all.