The Truth about the 33 miners/Copiapo mining accident

Originally posted by MarrsAttax
reply to post by TheTruthIsFromGod

 

Sorry I only made it to the 5 minute mark and what I saw was really stretching it.

Mario Sulpeveda's nickname is the 'comedian'

'The clown is a well known representation of Satan.

Therefore Satan literally was in the mine with them.

I don't need to watch ten more minutes of that kind of logic to know this is gibberish. Sorry.

Agreed. I actually thought it was a joke video when I saw that clown part. It then goes on to say that "Many of the miners went down as atheists, unbelievers, or semi-believers". How has he determined that they were "all" unbelievers before going in, from that statement alone. Many could've meant 8 miners for all we know.

right... again, the same thing... whatever you wish to do with your belief's, it's on your end...
but please remember, the religion and the bible and everything related to "god" "jesus" and whatever... "CREATED BY MEN FOR MEN" to consume and "believe"...
no thank's i'll take my chances, and when the time comes, i'll know better...

right... again, the same thing... whatever you wish to do with your belief's, it's on your end...
but please remember, the religion and the bible and everything related to "god" "jesus" and whatever... "CREATED BY MEN FOR MEN" to consume and "believe"...
no thank's i'll take my chances, and when the time comes, i'll know better...

Originally posted by Beamish
reply to post by TheTruthIsFromGod

 

You are confident in your method, good for you…

Thanks. I am willing to have my mind changed, though. Are you?

…I am also confident in my method…

Ain’t that the truth.

And when did it become your method to spread God’s “word”?

Surely it’s God’s method, no? Or was that simply a little Freudian slip?

…why losing your time with me? ... just continue your life as before and enjoy your life.

Why am I replying to your thread? Simple:

Those who have not even noticed about this story, or those who have already forgotten it are the blind ones... they are aslept and they think they are awake, they are already dead and they think they are alive...

When someone uses BS rhetoric like the above to try and justify their own beliefs, I get angry. Angry at the arrogance expressed, angry at the scornfulness exhibited and angry at the sheer conceited pomposity. Not to mention the complete detachment from reality.

Only those who have eyes and fear God can truly see the Truth about this story, the rest have bought the illusion of Satan and are already condemned.

What crap.

Can’t you live your life without seeing evil around every feckin corner?

The Chilean miners story was one of hope, sheer joy, not to mention laughter.

When they were released, the world cheered.

It brought us together.

It was a piece of good news in a sea of bad.

And you try and twist it into something that will condemn us in God’s eyes? Your self-important belief is simply beyond words…

This story is a kind of Test: those who think this story is a miracle and has united Humanity and has brought a new hope are the lost ones…

You’re a fear monger.

…those who see in it a sign of the Apocalpyse and of the release of Gog and Magog are those whose eyes have been opened by God.

The first category will be the victims of Gog and Magog and the Apocalypse, except if they repent and submit to God.

I also believe that you are suffering some kind of dangerous desensitization to the plight and suffering of your fellow Man.

You seem to be reveling in the possibility of others suffering under the wrath of your God, without seeing the need to save any one from eternal damnation.

No rational individual would publically say something so inane as your above quotes without having had their own personal reality derailed by devious religious propaganda.

This is exactly why I turned away from religion,self-righteous,fear-mongering people haters!this guy should take a long look in the mirror.

Just to make myself clear:

I am not a Muslim, I am not a Christian, I am not a Jew, I am not from any -ism, I am not from any organized group, I stand alone with God, he's my only Master and Teacher.

I am recommanding to the people to create their own relationship with God on the basis of his last Revelation: the Koran.

Do not adopt any master, scholar, teacher, etc, BUT just God. God will directly inspire you and show you the true path if you pray him sincerly in your head. Give thanks to God on a daily basis for any of his gifts (well guidance health, money, family, material stuff...), obey God by obeying the the commandments of the Koran as far as possible during each second of your life.

I am not asking you to become a Muslim, as I've said to you the Muslim religion is just sect just like the Christian religion, just like any other organized religion.

Just obey God and the Koran, is it clear enough?

If you follow my recommandation, you'll enjoy full safety, full guidance an you'll have a happy and comfortable life and you'll receive an infinite reward in the after life, if you disobey, you'll have a narrow life full of misery and pain and you'll burn in hell forever.

I don't have the time to watch the video right now - anyone care to indulge me with a brief synopsis?
The photos of the miners when they were down there were strange.
But, much of Revelations is a retelling of the battle between Marduk and Tiamat.
The end will be where the beginning is...

reply to post by TheTruthIsFromGod


[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/c0fdcdd2d387.jpg[/atsimg]

MOTF!

To TheTruthIsFromGod:

I can see the strange coincidences with 33, inversed pentagram etc... But why oh why did you put your own interpretation in it?

Putting the emphasis on God certainly got more attention than the facts themselves. It could have been a far more interesting thread otherwise.

P.S. : To everyone else, watch the video without religion in mind. Especially the pics embedded in it.

Originally posted by MarrsAttax
reply to post by TheTruthIsFromGod

 

Sorry I only made it to the 5 minute mark and what I saw was really stretching it.

Mario Sulpeveda's nickname is the 'comedian'
'The clown is a well known representation of Satan.

Therefore Satan literally was in the mine with them.

I don't need to watch ten more minutes of that kind of logic to know this is gibberish. Sorry.

It was either,"Homey the Clown"or Stephen Kings clown, "It",or my personal favorite,"Killer Clowns from Outer Space"

Originally posted by TheTruthIsFromGod
I am not here to listen to your opinion, I am not here to debate, I am not here to argue, I am not here to beg you for anything, I am just here to transmit you what I've transmitted in my video, accept it or reject it. My warning is a mercy from God for those who can still be saved. (final Dot)

From now, I'll spare my breathe and my time, I do not accept to sell the precious Truth of God for a little price, I've said what I've to say, I let each one decide for himself.

Why did you start this thread? if you know anything about ats you would know that we would respond with our own opinions?Did you really think we would say ok your right?I don't believe that is what this forum is about.It's about free thinking discussions,free thoughts and expressing our own opinions on the topic.Please go outside and stand on the corner and spread your doomsday,negative ideas............

Originally posted by TheTruthIsFromGod
Just to make myself clear:

I am not a Muslim, I am not a Christian, I am not a Jew, I am not from any -ism, I am not from any organized group, I stand alone with God, he's my only Master and Teacher.

I am recommanding to the people to create their own relationship with God on the basis of his last Revelation: the Koran.

Do not adopt any master, scholar, teacher, etc, BUT just God. God will directly inspire you and show you the true path if you pray him sincerly in your head. Give thanks to God on a daily basis for any of his gifts (well guidance health, money, family, material stuff...), obey God by obeying the the commandments of the Koran as far as possible during each second of your life.

I am not asking you to become a Muslim, as I've said to you the Muslim religion is just sect just like the Christian religion, just like any other organized religion.

Just obey God and the Koran, is it clear enough?

If you follow my recommandation, you'll enjoy full safety, full guidance an you'll have a happy and comfortable life and you'll receive an infinite reward in the after life, if you disobey, you'll have a narrow life full of misery and pain and you'll burn in hell forever.

You seemed to have appointed yourself "God" and that we must obey you YOU HAVE GOT TO BE JOKING!

So I think I figured out your 34th man "issue". (and im sorry to say, I laughed my ass off & MessOnTheFED!'s post didnt help, was about 10 minutes before I could type, )

Anyway I'll admit, other than knowing some guys where stuck in the ground, really deep. I didnt pay much attention to the whole miner thing.

However based on what you have in this video I believe I have a reasonable explanation for the 34th man.

These are all facts from the video.


They where under ground for 17 days before being found.

I assume the reason for the 34 "mistake" was because the note said 34.

They where in the ground for 17 days before they knew help would arrive.

Not from video: We know what humans are capable of in desperate situations.

What happened to the 34th man you ask?

They ATE him! This would explain the contracts about not speaking and the things they will never discuss etc, ( should I add allegedly?, lol)


Man 34 became dish of the day (or more likely week), I mean, thats not a "fact" but it makes a hell of a lot more sense than satan.


Cheers,


S (3ns1bl3, Not Satan) lol

reply to post by TheTruthIsFromGod

religion is the cause of more wars though out the ages
check out this video and tell me your region is true
www.youtube.com...

Originally posted by Vio1ion
To TheTruthIsFromGod:

I can see the strange coincidences with 33, inversed pentagram etc... But why oh why did you put your own interpretation in it?

Putting the emphasis on God certainly got more attention than the facts themselves. It could have been a far more interesting thread otherwise.

P.S. : To everyone else, watch the video without religion in mind. Especially the pics embedded in it.

edit on 1/11/10 by Vio1ion because: Where to look

Very much what I was thinking.
I really thought the logos were a great find, as well as the (inverted) pentagrams.
Interesting take on the '34th man' thing...
I liked the video.

I also agree with the OP in that this was something short of miraculous. I don't see any reason for NASA involvement, either. (I wasn't previously aware they were, so thanks for that)
I really don't understand what made this such a big story, but maybe I'm too jaded.
Maybe the OP is right. Who knows?

I think that maybe the media was expecting a different ending, and just 'went' with the happy one when it occurred.
I'm still looking for their ulterior motive, though.

Originally posted by TheTruthIsFromGod
If you follow my recommandation, you'll enjoy full safety, full guidance an you'll have a happy and comfortable life and you'll receive an infinite reward in the after life, if you disobey, you'll have a narrow life full of misery and pain and you'll burn in hell forever.

God complex: A god complex is a non-clinical term generally used to describe an individual who consistently believes he or she can accomplish more than is humanly possible or that their opinion is automatically above those with whom he or she may disagree.

You sound an awful lot like someone I read about.. He said something about "I am the way, the truth, and the light." You're not trying to be Him are you? Oh my dear little delusional one! Ease the grip on the book or scrolls or papyrus.

I'm more fearful of people like you than I am any God. You are an extremist. It's not enough for you to believe something, you have to make others believe it too. Assimilate or die right? Come get some.

You claim you're not here to debate, but there are pages of you coming back and arguing with people. You said what you wanted to say, now drop it. This isn't a platform for your type of missionary work.

So this whole apocalypse thing, is it just on earth? Or the entire universe? Is god just angry at US or the whole of creation? If it's the whole universe, why would god just send his "signs" through some Chilean miners, on a remote ball of dust, in a far corner of the universe? Why not a larger, much more obvious sign? Like a loud voice, a burning bush, some flying angel guys with horns maybe, or say, any other type of communication that doesn't involve a disembodied face on a piece of toast? Why is it that almost every religious nutter diatribe smacks of huge egoism, and the whole "I'm right, your wrong" mentality. It's a perverse ego inflating revenge fantasy. They're the only one with "truth", and they will be rewarded for it, while everyone else is "wrong" and will be punished for it.

It's not faith in God, it's faith in their own righteousness. It's funny, but almost every "fundie" I've met has been the same way - not filled with love, light, and truth, but rather malice, and an over inflated ego. When you think about it, most major religions actually pander to the human ego - WE are created in HIS image - We have dominion over all of the animals on land, in the sea, and air- We are essentially god's ONLY children - even though god created all the wonders in the entire UNIVERSE, and all living things, he holds US in highest regard. I dunno, out of ALL the wondrous, beautiful, mysterious things in existence, I'm not sold that Humanity is the BEST CREATION EVA!!!

Originally posted by TheTruthIsFromGod
I am speaking about submitting to the Master of the Universe, your Creator and mine. He's the God of Moses, Jesus and Muhammad and his orders are now contained in the Koran. He's the God of the whole universe, can you deny that?

You are of course talking about the Flying Spaghetti Monster

en.wikipedia.org...

Originally posted by S3ns1bl3
I assume the reason for the 34 "mistake" was because the note said 34.

No it did not, it said 33
en.wikipedia.org...

What happened to the 34th man you ask?

Except that there never was a 34th man, only 33.

Why do some people lie and make things up here?

reply to post by TWILITE22

I never heard of clowns associated with the devil before....
only to Carnies

Gosh darn you ATS T&C!!!!

*sigh* I can't believe I'm even replying to this. But it's 3 in the morning and I obviously have nothing better to do at the moment.

I don't even know where to begin on this, or what I can say that won't be completely offensive to the OP, so I'm going to say:
No.
no no no no no no no.


1. Don't try to push your [religious] beliefs on someone.
2. Especially don't do it with a craptastic video like that.