[Economoic Warfare begun] China stopping key exports and raises interest rates.

Originally posted by Leo Strauss
The reason the "manufacturing floor" of the world is China and India is that capitalism is played out in the US. The corporations have decided that 2 to 3 billion potential customers in Asia far surpass the 350 million consumers in the US. So manufacturing and the upwardly mobile consumer have been outsourced to China.

This is so far from the truth and it's complete misinformation....

In the REAL world, China and India have insanely fast growing economies, but most of the citizens in both countries are exceptionally poor and don't have tv, computers, phones, etc. I don't have the source in front of me at the moment, and I would think you could find this information on your own, but of the 350 million customers here, most can and do purchase things regularly, unlike our friends overseas. The US is still one of the wealthiest countries and biggest consuming nations on earth, and is also the provider of almost every patent and ingenious idea that has been sent to China to produce, making it look like China is the ones producing all of the "cool" stuff when really, they are only producing the materials and work force to manufacture things... but we still produce the ideas. Unfortunately for us, that balance is shifting rapidly in China's favor.

For those who haven't noticed, China has been moving towards a slightly more democratic society, albeit in small steps. Under communism, the people stopped "thinking" of ideas and trying to produce them since the government usually stepped in and took everything. Here in the US, that only happens for specific reasons (such as national security and greedy oil companies), and as a result of being mostly free for the last 200+ years, we were able to produce more ideas and technology in those 200+ years than most civilizations have done in 5000. It's all about the ability to think freely and innovate, which is something China has lacked until very recently. They depend on the US to innovate and come up with new ideas and new technology and since they have a massive work force, they can afford to be the work horse.

Things will remain this way as long as we are the main consumers in the world. China and the US have a very well aligned partnership when it comes to keeping both in check militarily and economically. Contrary to what people think, China would not do something as stupid as people suggest and sabotage their own economy by trying to tank ours, it just won't happen.

It's chess, not checkers.... this is coming from someone with a lot of experience working with companies partnered with Chinese firms and I can tell you first hand, they need us as much as we need them.

~Namaste

reply to post by Echtelion


Speaking of economic protectionism; on CNN’s Parker Spitzer show tonight, they and a guest advocated just this. Telling viewers to visit to U.S. destinations like Niagara Fall’s or Vegas instead of Europe. Not such a bad idea if you ask me, a nation wide “Try America” campaign, to bolster American goods and travel destinations.

TO THE MATTRESSES!!!

Not surprising to me at all. With China butting heads with Japan recently and the US stance in regards to the the situation as well as The Obama Administration pointing the finger at China for there financial infrastructure regarding the value of there currency etc it all falls into place. It's just the beginning in my opinion. It's been happening for a bit but this is just one of the major blows to the US and abroad.

no doubt, Wheel of War, USA vs. China, was turned on

Originally posted by Xcathdra

I forgotten which one it was, but the one that mentions that the red dragon will awake from its slumber and sweep throughout the world. Pretty sure it was from Nostradamus... i know some of his work, been wrong and right..but still give credit were its due.

I thought it was from revelations. A 200 million man army will rise in the east and move west under the dragon. It has references to the Bear (Russia) and the Eagle (United States).

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No bro.

It was Nostrodamus. I always thought he was funny. Make predictions that you only know for sure AFTER the fact

Well there was a prediction for WW3 starting around 20th October. It could all begin as economic warfare when the history books get written.

Yeah but you know who said it first mabus.angus here:

www.abovetopsecret.com...

But I don't know if it's the same?

But he did say it differently. Mmmmmh

Hello, a Canadian company named Forum Uranium (FDC) listed on the TSX have made a nice rare earth find in Nunuvut.

Please do your own DD

...nice to get some more rare earth mines goin on this continent

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I don't believe a YHWH would want another to 'quote' or labelem.
A, or the creator/s speak in forms/visions, not in words, just as an idea cannot be ascribed to print without one being lost in translation. If this makes sense, it most likely Is.

Freemasons used to ascribe to this truth though much has changed as the international banksters took over.
no?

Mankind has come close to selling himself out, literally.
Freedom is not a choice, it Is a reality of your very creation.
You were born to create as only 'you' can create.
Your neighbor should be your freind.

A new awakening is amongus though many souls will be aloft to try again.
That part is still a mystery to me.
though 'Need to know' basis does not apply mantoman.

there are too many replies and didnt look at every one but is this a true prediction as far as the Stock market declining on the 20th?

all this economic war crap doesn't effect the normal everday citizen. this is just billionaires, corporations and elitists taking shots at each other. the only casualities are going to be corporations who would have to lay people off. life will go on. the government will bail them out again and the layed off corporate lackeys will find new jobs. the stock market can be wiped off the earth and it wouldn't effect me because it don't invest in these sucker bets that suck in your hard earned money and spread it among boards and majority owners. that's what stock market crashes essentially are. it's like wiping the slate clean, after they take all the money they can, run out of excuses there's a convenient "crash" where all stock prices plummet, freeing up the books. then new suckers, called investors on wallstreet, are sold great deals by brokers, like ibm and google trading 40% cheaper than a year ago. people invest, drive up the price, majority stockholders and ceos get rich, then boom another crash. cycle repeats.

Economic Warfare quickly turns into Total Warfare we must also keep in mind that with the presidental elections only another year away that Obama and his handlers will push for somekind of war in order to secure TPTB's blessing for a second term.

Originally posted by Exuberant1
reply to post by Rentor

 

Yes. I know that.

Didn't you read my post?

They wouldn't be able to keep the prices so low if they did not control that market. Bro.

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If they control the market on rare minerals, why wouldn't they keep the price high? Your logic is backwards.

You know your country borrowed this money, how is it warfare to ask that you pay this debt. What the hell is the education level in this forum.

No worries we still have our
McDonalds,
Facebook,
MTV,
and Paris Hilton.

Everything will be just a ok

I'm honestly not suprised at China's position on the rare earth metals, especially when you consider that the Western countries (under the banner of climate change) have been smelting down electronic goods etc to return those rare earth metals to their coffers at China's expense.

We have been sold this need to recylcle goods, but only when you look at the process behind reclaiming those that have rare earths can you see the ulterior motive in the process, and how the actual process (smelting) harms the enviroment more than it helps./*/*

I dont get when opeople says china owns 95+% of minerals. Im up north ehre in canada and wheve been finding massive amounts of most presure metals the world so needs, we just goit laws keeping us from getting to them at the moment. So no wories, the government will do some sneaky business and open up some drilling in the artic and far north, for oil, uranium, copper, keep on poluting with the tar sands, no worries well destroy our beautiful untouched, cough cough, country eheheh

Oh and the queen is still on our money lol

just my 2 cents

So can anyone tell me what rights China will have on countries that default on their loans what are they entitled too would the countries have to give some of their land to cover the costs just strikes me as odd that China would buy what most people would let someone else deal with who wants to pay money that they know they wont see again. Just something fishy thats all.

Originally posted by andrewh7

Originally posted by Exuberant1
reply to post by Rentor

 

Yes. I know that.

Didn't you read my post?

They wouldn't be able to keep the prices so low if they did not control that market. Bro.

If they control the market on rare minerals, why wouldn't they keep the price high?

Cannot think of any reasons?

Not even one?