Were Humans Created by Reptilians?

What on Earth do you think that the Most Recent Common Ancestor female and male have to do with the discussion?

What exactly is it that you think that it means?

You realize that men have mtDNA right?

Originally posted by Sparkey76
reply to post by Aeons

 

lol, hello, we are talking about reptillian races, It has been alleged that reptilan races are linked to this bloodline, so yes, it deserves to be added to the discussion.

reply to post by Aeons


It was a counter comment made by davesidious, does not really have much to do with the discussion apart from the counter argument that Bloodlines are not as simple as davesidious made it out to be.

Its an argument that a bloodline could be traced back to when The Nephilim was said to be on Earth ( maybe still on Earth) Or at least a genetic experiment of them are still on Earth.

So it is completley relevant to the subject at hand.

Now I have shown from a very good source that one bloodline does go back to some tribes of Israel, ok we are entering Biblical accounts here but that bloodline can be traced back to something else.

Nephilim or Annunaki.



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What you are countering with in no way counters what he said. Explain how it does.

Originally posted by Sparkey76
reply to post by Aeons

 

It was a counter comment made by davesidious, does not really have much to do with the discussion apart from the counter argument that Bloodlines are not as simple as davesidious made it out to be.

Its an argument that a bloodline could be traced back to when The Nephilim was said to be on Earth ( maybe still on Earth) Or at least a genetic experiment of them are still on Earth.

So it is completley relevant to the subject at hand.

Now I have shown from a very good source that one bloodline does go back to some tribes of Israel, ok we are entering Biblical accounts here but that bloodline can be traced back to something else.

Nephilim or Annunaki.



[edit on 2-3-2010 by Sparkey76]

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Thank you for adding to the quality of this thread. I have read about the Golden Race, and believe that I have seen them on two occasions. I think they do live in what we think of is underground, but they are in a different dimension. Mount Shasta in California. I have some friends who camped up there many years ago, and of the group of 7, two told me that they had awoken to see strange, glowing beings standing looking at them. Here are some related links to ponder on:

Greetings from Adama of Telos

TELOS:UNDERGROUND CITY OF MOUNT SHASTA

Mysterious Shasta

Underground Bases

Originally posted by Golden Boy

Originally posted by spy66
The American presidency seams to fallow this blood line. The blood line of Kings.

The evidence for this assertion being...?

On Google! search for it. I am not going to do that for you.

I am not stating a fact here. Just a trend. And you can read about it.

Again, do you do genealogy?

Originally posted by spy66

Originally posted by Golden Boy

Originally posted by spy66
The American presidency seams to fallow this blood line. The blood line of Kings.

The evidence for this assertion being...?

On Google! search for it. I am not going to do that for you.

I am not stating a fact here. Just a trend. And you can read about it.

Everyone is related to everyone else, so of course we can always find a connection between people. Of course, those who claim the "special bloodlines" exist don't seem to realise that, and so get all excited when they find connections between people in power

Then I said.

Its about individual cases that are directly linked through history.
Father-mother-son-daughter bloodline

So it is a counter argument to what Davidous said.

Look back at the posts, its easy.

Again, do you do genealogy?

Its not that hard if done properly and you know your History.

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I can read. What I do not see, is why you think that means something.

Originally posted by Sparkey76

Everyone is related to everyone else, so of course we can always find a connection between people. Of course, those who claim the "special bloodlines" exist don't seem to realise that, and so get all excited when they find connections between people in power

Then I said.

Its about individual cases that are directly linked through history.
Father-mother-son-daughter bloodline

So it is a counter argument to what Davidous said.

Look back at the posts, its easy.

reply to post by Aeons


Learn to read then and look for things that have been said through the thread.

Damn, I think your just doing this on purpose, being a troll.

[edit on 2-3-2010 by Sparkey76]

reply to post by autowrench


No Probs autowrench, Its a subject I am interested in and glad to of added something for the subject.

I too would like to visit some of the caves that have reported of seeing the races of agartha, one day I will, as apparently the caves are linked in some way to the tunnels in various regions.
Even here in the UK at caves in Yorkshire the legend is here.

Thanks for the links, I'll have a read of them.

[edit on 2-3-2010 by Sparkey76]

Originally posted by Aeons
Again, do you do genealogy?

Originally posted by spy66

Originally posted by Golden Boy

Originally posted by spy66
The American presidency seams to fallow this blood line. The blood line of Kings.

The evidence for this assertion being...?

On Google! search for it. I am not going to do that for you.

I am not stating a fact here. Just a trend. And you can read about it.

No i don't.


I am just saying if this myth is true as it is told. It shouldn't be hard to predict who is going to be the next US president. Its going to be the one who has closest blood ties to the reptile blood lines. If you fallow the myth.

The Next president of the United States is going to be the one with the closest blood ties to the House of Windsor.

-Why did Bush win the presidential election against All Gore?

-Because Bush's royal bloodline was more pure. Than Al Gore's. They both have royal blood.

47 of them have had close ties to the royal bloodlines. And since 1917 the trend has been quite solid.

A king= Gods advocate.



[edit on 27.06.08 by spy66]

reply to post by Aeons


I'll spell it out for you shall I.

The title of the thread is called "Were Humans Created by Reptillians".

Its states in the thread that its possible this Reptillian myth is living underground.

I am stating, its possible they are underground but its also possible they have had dominion over us above ground through a bloodline, its not argued the details of it yet, are they reptillians? Is the bloodline a genetic experiment by The Nephilim ect ect.

So I am also stating its possible, its not Humans that was created by a genetic experiment, but a bloodline that seems to have links to the Nephilim.

Can I get any clearer?, Its open for debate.



[edit on 2-3-2010 by Sparkey76]

so i read through the thread and didn't notice anything mentioned about the 'terra papers,' by robert morning sky. i just read that the other day, and not too sure what to think.

he touches on various forms of life from other planets that evolved to into a humanoid form. one race from insects, dogs, reptiles, and apes (us).

in short, one of the royal princes EA (Enki) creates man by mixing his DNA with that of 'the beast' here on earth (gorilla? sasquatch?)

just looking for someone else's thoughts on the terra papers. any credible ideas or just nonsense?

if you haven't read them, they are online for free. at the very least, it's an interesting read nonethless.

Originally posted by davesidious
reply to post by Sparkey76

 

Everyone is related to everyone else, so of course we can always find a connection between people. Of course, those who claim the "special bloodlines" exist don't seem to realise that, and so get all excited when they find connections between people in power. It's a selection bias. If they performed a control, and tried to find connections between those in power and some random individuals who certainly aren't, they'd find the exact same level of matches.

This is skewed by the in-breeding in the European royal courts, where family ties were used to form allegiances and protect countries, but the fact remains that we are all related to each other.

Well, not the exact same; a person born to Harvard graduates for example will have a better shot at getting into Harvard than a kid born to sharecroppers. there is going to be some skew towards certain bloodlines just because of socio-economic factors.

another factor is genetics. just as some kid born to mathematicians is likely to have innate genetic ability for math and thus become a mathematician or scientist, kids born to politicians and such probably have superior genetics related to being a politician than other kids. so, youre going to have a skew greater than just socio-economic factors too.

however, this is just natural genetics that happens everywhere in life; not evidence of a reptilian conspiracy.

another thing: im reading over the source material for these ancient reptilian gods in sumer and none of them are described as reptilian. in fact, some of them are discribed as extremely hairy.

add that in to what i posted a few pages back about how anything capable of interstellar travel isn't going to be biological nor is it going to produce biological machines:
The biggest problem with these stories is the same problem that alien abduction stories share: the aliens/ gods are biologically based.

In less than 30 years, a $1,000 computer will outperform a human brain by a factor of something like a thousand. Then those computers make smarter computers and those make smarter ones.. Before too long, you have computers with basically infinite intelligence.

Key idea: silicon based or some other type of hardware. NOT anything biological.

If we're going to have this tech within the next 50 years, a star-traveling species had it a long time before they came here. Every member of this species will have near or even fully infinite intelligence and will not look even remotely like any kind of animal or what we consider 'alive'.

Biological minds are slower and stupider. Biological bodies are weaker and get destroyed easier.

The only reason anything extraterrestrial here would be biologically based (or have any biological features at all for that matter) would be if it/ they were servants of something else. This sounds more likely because it's easy to replace (kill) the servants (probably regarded as equivalent to kitchen appliances) and they naturally die off anyways (kind of like how some software is programmed to terminate after a trial period).

However, even that is unlikely because all these advantages can be replicated with clever programming in more durable and probably cheaper systems.

So, it stands to reason that all these sightings of aliens/ gods looking like they're composed of biological material are complete horse #.

Now, this adds another idea:
They present themselves as biological. We know that's wrong. So, that means if they're physical, they're biological or not biological. So, now that seems to confirm our initial choice that they're not biological. However, there is a third option that they're not physical. Since we're so ignorant that we can't really do anything but assign equal probabilities to the three, this leaves us with the best odds of them not being physical. To understand, this logic, read this:

en.wikipedia.org...

Thus, the highest probability conclusion is that, if these beings exist, they're not physical. However, this is negated by the fact that they may not exist. So, this logic only applies if thy do.

Personally, I don't think they exist in that they're not visiting us right now and probably never have. I'm sure there's intelligent life out there though. This is just food for thought that believe all of this.



[edit on 3/2/10 by RedDragon]

Originally posted by spy66

Originally posted by Golden Boy

Originally posted by spy66
The American presidency seams to fallow this blood line. The blood line of Kings.

The evidence for this assertion being...?

On Google! search for it. I am not going to do that for you.

I did a Google search. I found nothing with any verifiable sources. What source did you use?

oh, and another thing on the bloodlines. we used to live in tribes of 50 max people. thats where a lot of our social genetics come from. so, one leader in 50 man tribe = 1/50. 2%.

individual disparity in genetics between tribes existed. so, we can assume that leaders from a small number of tribes are over-represented due to superior political genetics. now, youre going to have a common leadership bloodline with under .1% representation as it decreases .02^number of tribes represented here.

so, it stands to reason just off of this train of thought, it's possible that most world leaders descend from this otherwise unlikely bloodline. no aliens, no reptilian shape shifters. just natural selection.

EG: greek mythology. the island with the trojan horse thing. the trojan king took a bride from a leader's family in a greek city. their kids would have otherwise (the war) gone on to be leaders and would have awesome leadership genetics compared to a random guy. so, this creates an unlikely bloodline common in people with good leadership genetics.

this makes it .02^2 (.02^n+1). that's already very uncommon. now do that every time that happens (n goes up by 1 each time).

so, im sure you can find all sorts of genetic qualities common in people who lead over us compared to the general populace. again though, no reptilians involved. just natural selection.

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The Draconians do not like human beings. They believe that this universe was here for them - that their history teaches them that they were left here to rule it. But, when they started traveling, they ran across other races. They were able to conquer many of those races through genetic manipulation. Now, our government, the United States government, the New World Order - whatever you want to call it - wants to implant everybody. This would me ownership. What they do is they come in, conquer a race and genetically alter it. From that moment on, that race is genetically altered. The genetic changes alter the frequency, sound and thought patterns of the race if they move into a physical form.
Draconians are apparently 'soulless' and can be associated with the neosaurian-reptilian or 'fallen angels'.

...once moved into physical form...they are able to genetically alter a races frequency.....

www.burlingtonnews.net...

Far in the past before Atlantis existed,
men there were who delved into darkness,
using dark magic, calling up beings
from the great deep below us.
Forth came they into this cycle.
Formless were they of another vibration,
existing unseen by the children of earth-men.
Only through blood could they have formed being.
Only through man could they live in the world.

In ages past were they conquered by Masters,
driven below to the place whence they came.
But some there were who remained,
hidden in spaces and planes unknown to man.
Lived they in Atlantis as shadows,
but at times they appeared among men.
Aye, when the blood was offered,
for they came they to dwell among men.

[edit on 2-3-2010 by Mr Green]

and there are much more rational ways to explain lots of these things using occams razor

eg

sumerian flood myth with the people being slaves in gold mines to gods and being wiped out in a flood caused by disgust at interbreeding between gods and humans.

people here are claiming reptilian aliens and us enslaved to them. no where in the epic does it describe the gods as reptilian.

more rational interpretation:

the gods were the people who enslaved them. people like gold so they had them enslaved to mine gold. then there was race mixing between the enslaved and the 'gods' (humans). as you know, people are racist. actually, this could have just been caste mixing, who knows? so, they flood the area by redirecting levees or canals or something to kill off all the people who were mixing and the people who were mixed.



[edit on 3/2/10 by RedDragon]

Originally posted by RedDragon
oh, and another thing on the bloodlines. we used to live in tribes of 50 max people. thats where a lot of our social genetics come from. so, one leader in 50 man tribe = 1/50. 2%.

individual disparity in genetics between tribes existed. so, we can assume that leaders from a small number of tribes are over-represented due to superior political genetics. now, youre going to have a common leadership bloodline with under .1% representation as it decreases .02^number of tribes represented here.

so, it stands to reason just off of this train of thought, it's possible that most world leaders descend from this otherwise unlikely bloodline. no aliens, no reptilian shape shifters. just natural selection.

EG: greek mythology. the island with the trojan horse thing. the trojan king took a bride from a leader's family in a greek city. their kids would have otherwise (the war) gone on to be leaders and would have awesome leadership genetics compared to a random guy. so, this creates an unlikely bloodline common in people with good leadership genetics.

this makes it .02^2 (.02^n+1). that's already very uncommon. now do that every time that happens (n goes up by 1 each time).

so, im sure you can find all sorts of genetic qualities common in people who lead over us compared to the general populace. again though, no reptilians involved. just natural selection.

[edit on 3/2/10 by RedDragon]

This assumes that all tribes were ruled by a family. Many tribes used trial by combat to determine the leader, and a few used democratic processes. Others were ruled by a shaman, who was succeeded by his chosen apprentice.

reply to post by Golden Boy


im sure lots of tribes did that. lots of tribes also did as i explained. and as you know from modern examples, democracy often falters in democratic societies. even then, there is going to be a bias skewed towards those with resources and good political genetics.

i mean look at us

we're a huge democracy compared to old democracies. 300 million people. that's more than the population of the entire planet back during roman, greek times, etc. so, a huge base of common people. yet, our last president was the son of the president two presidents before him.

out of 300 million people. our genetics are from tribes of 50 people.

with results like that in a tribe 6 million times larger, what do you think is going to happen in 50 person tribes even with supposed 'democracy'? how do you think this is reflected in our genetics and bloodlines?

they may have had democracies or w/e in tribes as a political face. the de facto leaders almost certainly weren't them though. even if they were legit, it doesn't matter because most tribes weren't like that. even if they were mostly like that, it doesn't matter because leadership genetics are still going to factor in.

so even with those constraints, youre still going to get distinct genetic qualities, including bloodlines, in leaders just as you would be able to find the same in any other trade like mathematics, etc. using a process like something i described.

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