Were Humans Created by Reptilians?

The Rh Negative Factor population overlaps the area where the modern European and the Neanderthal coexisted.

Neanderthals were RH negative. Usually O-.

While no mtDNA in the modern human correlates to the Neanderthal species, there is some evidence of nuclear DNA contribution (ginger gene).

Further, if this special group of people are some creation, does this apply to all ABO groups? Is only one of the allelic genes involved, or are all three variations of these antigens-correspondent genes all from some creator.

I already proved to you that the D-d gene can indeed be a mtuation. A miscoding. So if the D-d variation is a proven possible mutation factor, does that mean that they do or don't qualify as some descendent of an experiment?

Surely, you can tell me.

Originally posted by JoeGroomlake
if mankind is created by extraterrestrials, then so are the animals which live on our planet. in the end, we don't know. but we can ask ourselves...

I believe this too, and that there are higher beings of these animal species on Earth out there. Case in point. This may get me flamed, but here it is. When I was 17 I was in a really bad car crash. I almost bled to death, and was hurt so bad I was out of it for 6 days. During this time, I was "taken" to a place that to me looked like a very large hospital. there were may different species there, all were being treated. The main doctor, are you ready for it? was a big Monarch Butterfly, with glasses. He/It never spoke to me with speech, he used telepathy. I know what the sceptics will say, "it was the drugs," it was the "pain," it was anything but what I say it was. But this is how I remember it.

since the universe has always existed and has been rebooted again and again (as i believe), we cant tell for sure, if we have always been here in this form of life or not, or if this is just one of many planets that mankind lives on in the same form.

Good point, and I agree with all. I too have come to believe that what we think of as Planet Earth is bout an illusion of the real deal. When things go awry, as they always seem to do, the system reboots, and all is created again, just as it was in it's default settings.

"Selection Factors" linked to the selection of rhesus factor negative individuals.

Babesia divergens - protozoan parasite transmitted from bovines by ticks.

www.springerlink.com...

People with RH- survive this tick bourne disease better, giving them a selection advantage.

Rhesus factor polymorphism found in other homonid species.

Gorillas, chimpanzees, and the sampling was too small to confirm but orangatangs are likely.

Explain how these other homonid primates also have Rh+ and Rh- individuals.

Firstly, most of the stuff on the internet is unrealiable. Secondly, we are not told anything, everything we see, read about is a distraction to what is really going on. We are blind to everything!

Think i will make that my signiture also lol

If this reptile myth is real. The Americans should know without a problem who their next President will be in the year 2012.

The American presidency seams to fallow this blood line. The blood line of Kings.

Originally posted by spy66
The American presidency seams to fallow this blood line. The blood line of Kings.

The evidence for this assertion being...?

www.ortho-wire.com...

I like this one, it actually gives a nice picture of how a RhD deletion happens.

reply to post by TwoPhish


I agree with you TwoPhish, I have researched reptilians for many years now, and they can be traced to most every ancient, and yes, modern culture. This is not something to be idly dismissed out of hand because it isn't in one's belief system, I mean they are in the Bible too! Satan is called the Dragon, for gods sake!

Originally posted by rusethorcain

Here are 2 quotes from www.rhnegativeregistry.com...

["Having Rh Positive (Rh+) Blood means that you have the Rhesus Monkey Protein in your blood cells. Having Rh Negative (Rh-) Blood means that you DO NOT have the Rhesus Monkey Protein. This is important because people with Rh- Blood cannot take a transfusion of Rh+ Blood, they do not mix."]

["While some of the issues around having Rh Negative Blood have been revealed; the origin of the Rh Negative Factor in Human Blood is still unknown. In nature the only occurrence that has ever been recorded was during the Species Crossbreeding of a Horse and a Donkey; which resulted in a sterile Rh- Mule."] from the link given above

So NO. It could not have occurred naturally.

The site you quoted is very bias about where Rh- came from, so I wouldn't be so matter of fact with the your last statment "So NO. It could not have occurred naturally"



Doing just a quick look it seems Rh- came from the Basque who lived around Spain and France. It also seems by the very nature that the root of their language was not an off shoot of other ancient languages they were extremely isolated from other cultures. This could easily account as to why it affects such a small persentage of the population.

This blood type is nothing short of astonishing.

Well it is not unique as other types are, so astonishing maybe be a little strong wording.

some further quick research....

When you look at blood types (of which there are ABO, Rh, about 20 more common groups, and hundreds of uncommon ones that mostly only interest researchers), realize that we're looking at antigens that are medically relevant. Rh causes the strongest immune reaction aside from ABO group antigens, so it's medically relevant. It can cause reactions in blood transfusions, or during pregnancy.

The Rh group is actually composed of 3 antigens, C/c, D/d, and E/e. The upper and lower cases refer to different alleles, but the d gene produces no product. People who lack the D antigen (and have only the non-functional d gene) are considered Rh negative, even though they have genes that code for other Rh antigens. Some mutations cause a person to truly lack any of the Rh antigens, which can result in weaker red blood cell membranes and unusual ion concentrations (probably a result of defective membrane structure). This is called the Rh Null phenotype.

Variation in red blood cell antigens can sometimes be linked to diseases present in the region someone's ancestors came from. For example, those with African ancestry usually lack Duffy group antigens. This confers resistance to malaria, endemic to Africa.

So we CAN have changes in our blood caused by diseases and other external earth bound influances.

Since it seems that 35,000 years is a number that is being passed around as the start of RH- I find it quite interesting that around that same time the Neanderthal were still in France along with our ancestors, and I wonder if there was any interbreeding between us. With the Neanderthal extinct now we don’t have any way to prove it, but RH- might be from them… hmmm like a horse and donkey RH- scenario maybe? I would not rule out an isolated disease either as we see with different blood types affected in Africa.


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Originally posted by Wendz
When I first heard the whole reptilian thing from David Icke, I just thought he was a wack job. Strangely enough, I found his other work intriguing.
With regards to your post - In the Sumerian tablets (that have been classified as mythological)

there are many references to the 'gods' being winged and reptilian like, and there is also reference to them having laboratories. It is said in the tablets that our DNA is a mixture of theirs and the homo erectus.. hence the missing link. In Michael Tellingers book called 'Slave species of god' he states that they manipulated our DNA to be workers, to mine gold. They needed it for their planet (possibly Planet X - Nibiru) as their atmosphere was damaged, and they had advanced technology of how to form gold into weightless particles that can be suspended into their planets atmosphere and protect it just as our ozone layer protects our planet. Anyway, Good work! Lots of info out there..

Isn't it curious that any story, or history not specifically mentioned in the Holy Bible is just a Myth? I too find Icke and other's work in this area to be most intriguing and thought provoking too. Remember this always, every Myth was based on something true. Just because the Christians say it's a myth does not make it so. And yes, they did have labs, this is plainly depicted is ancient art. There are many of this artwork on this site, I will not search out and post one. And again, I do not think the Anunnaki needed the gold for their own protection, I think the wanted it for personal adornment. Gold particles have other, health related uses too.

reply to post by autowrench


No, not every myth is based on something real. That is a ridiculous assertion, that is patently false.

The amount of conjecture phrased as fact in that post is bizarre. Please try sticking to facts, or phrase your opinion as such.

Why would Rh- fetuses survive in an incompatible host?

Cohen 1970

www.drpeterjdadamo.com...

One of the most complete studies of the interactions of the Rh and ABO systems is that of Cohen (1970). In her first tables she attempts to avoid using data involving possible interactions between the ABO and Rh systems. Taking only Rh-compatible matings she compares fetal death rates in ABO-compatible and incompatible matings. Early fetal death rates are much higher in ABO-incompatible than in ABO-compatible matings, but late fetal losses are almost completely unaffected by ABO incompatibility as compared with ABO compatibility. Then, taking only ABO-compatible matings she shows the well-known effect of Rh incompatibility on late fetal losses but, rather surprisingly, a similar effect on early fetal losses. However, for early fetal losses the doubly incompatible matings show a lower rate than either of the singly incompatible classes, and close to that of the doubly compatible. It therefore appears that, as regards early fetal deaths, each type of incompatibility protects against the harmful effects of the other. For late fetal deaths the numbers are too small to be meaningful. It must also be stated that, despite the large numbers of matings included in the initial survey, the numbers of deaths are so small that only a few of the results mentioned reach statistical significance. In this clinically and scientifically important field of interaction between systems, there is therefore a need for further extensive surveys.

What that said is that in incompatible blood types of the ABO system mating, that also being incompatible in Rh- factor seems to lend a small but present protective effect.

When two incompatible groups met, being both ABO incompatible and Rh incompatible actually confers a greater likelihood of having a live birth.

Originally posted by Golden Boy

Originally posted by spy66
The American presidency seams to fallow this blood line. The blood line of Kings.

The evidence for this assertion being...?

Evidence?
forums.armageddononline.org...
still working progress but has 2 familys so far that are or have been a ruling elite.

Its a tricky subject, yes many people are related to eachother in someway, As for the presidents related to eachother, dont think 14th cousins twice removed is really closely related and its irrelevant.
You have to look at the individual cases and see whats relevant.

You can trace some individuals who are now powerful familys and have always been a powerful elite who have a direct ( father-mother-son-daughter bloodline.

Do any of the people putting forward these "royal bloodlines" things do genealogy? Just curious.

Because, by your utilization, I qualify. Do I get a prize?

reply to post by Sparkey76


Everyone is related to everyone else, so of course we can always find a connection between people. Of course, those who claim the "special bloodlines" exist don't seem to realise that, and so get all excited when they find connections between people in power. It's a selection bias. If they performed a control, and tried to find connections between those in power and some random individuals who certainly aren't, they'd find the exact same level of matches.

This is skewed by the in-breeding in the European royal courts, where family ties were used to form allegiances and protect countries, but the fact remains that we are all related to each other.

reply to post by davesidious


I dont think you have studied the subject much and just saying what is on top of your head.

In human genetics, Y-chromosomal Adam (Y-MRCA) is the most recent common ancestor (MRCA) from whom all living men are descended patrilineally (tracing back along the paternal lines of their family tree only). Y-chromosomal Adam probably lived between 90,000 and 60,000 years ago in Africa

Mitochondrial Eve is defined as the woman who is the matrilineal most recent common ancestor for all living humans. Passed down from mother to offspring, all mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) in every living person is directly descended from hers. Mitochondrial Eve is the female counterpart of Y-chromosomal Adam, the patrilineal most recent common ancestor, although they lived thousands of years apart.

I ma not talking about cousins that are distant in relationship.

Its about individual cases that are directly linked through history.
directly being Father-Mother-Son-daughter Bloodlines, the link of presidents and winston churchil and the queen and everyone else you can think of just confuses the situation.

Start looking at Individual cases.

So no, I am not getting all excited, the bloodline elite is here, you just have to look at it correctly.

[edit on 2-3-2010 by Sparkey76]

And......? You seem to think this means something to the discussion.

reply to post by Aeons


lol, hello, we are talking about reptillian races, It has been alleged that reptilan races are linked to this bloodline, so yes, it deserves to be added to the discussion.

reply to post by Full_Vision

Ok, reading through most of these replies to the OP has made me write in again.. one too many of comments such as 'i want proof' show me the facts' IF we actually HAD proof or science readily backing such theories as a Reptilian Race manipulating our genetics and controlling the worlds governments, religions and so forth.. if so, then we wouldnt be on such a forum as ATS brain storming on the matter! Have i missed something?

Thanks for this reply, Full_Vision, you are wise beyond your years, me thinks. I see this constant thing too, show me the facts. Mostly from Religious people who have no possible way to prove anything they believe in, like God, Jesus, the Second Coming, Rapture, and so on. Coming from the sceptics though is different. Sceptics keep us on our toes, and they make us think. A good sceptic to me is like a Muse. I appreciate them, at least those who research, and search for the real truth like the rest of us. I am dependant on spiritual muses too, these are Ideas that come to mind, sometimes right when I need it. Sometimes I will write a post, and then come back and read it the next day, and say to myself, wow! did I write that?

Now let's have a look at the word, "fact."

Origin:
1530–40; < L factum something done, deed, n. use of neut. of factus done, ptp. of facere to do
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[Latin factum, deed, from neuter past participle of facere, to do; see dhē- in Indo-European roots.]

dictionary.reference.com...

Even the origin of the word itself comes from Latin, from the Holy Roman Church. You know them, they were the ones who stated what was true, and what was not true. Here is the thing on facts, people, there are several versions of a fact.

If a million people saw a UFO would that make it a fact?
Even though not one took a photo?

If I get a letter from the government with my name in all caps, is it a fact that the name on the letter is actually me, a flesh and blood human being?

A lie, told enough times, can and does become a truth. When everyone believes it to be true, it is a fact that it is true, right?

We all know the government lies to us, right? Is it such a stretch to think that perhaps the Church has also lied to us?

See the logic here, folks? Truth is in perception. What is held to be true by one, could be an out and out lie to another.