Were Humans Created by Reptilians?

Originally posted by ofhumandescent
reply to post by autowrench

 

Interesting logo and sculptures. The elite may have a belief system that is based on this union of reptilian and human or of a diety that may have been real at one time. I remember in my fraternity days that I brushed aside until I started to read more on the elite and the powerful. I made it into being accepted into the fraternity, once I went throught he rites and the "supposedly" travel through chapterhouse (they made it look like we where following the travels of this ancient person), all 8 of us ended up in the attic of our national chapterhouse. This is where the main person explained the rites and a belief system that wasn't published to us. I can only remember just a little bit of it because I was in shock to tell you the truth, but in essence he said that we got our start from some man that went up a mountain to find enlightenment and when he went up the mountain it started to erupt (a volcano) and he ran into a cave. The dust and mud buried him in the cave and months later he dug himself out and had stones with symbols on them that supposedly was the basis for our fraternal belief.

There was more, but as I said I can't remember all of it because I was in shock. And so if a fraternity or my fraternity can have a belief system that initiates are taught that is passed by word of mouth and such, what about the elite. I mean as I said before, that sculpture could be their representation of the union of their god that they think is powerful and human. We are a people that have forgotten something in our history and a group of people know exactly what it is, but are keeping it away from us.

In King James Bible serpents are mentioned 26 times, dragons 10 and Leviathan 4.

Isiah
In that day the LORD with his sore and great and strong sword shall punish leviathan Job. 41.1 · Ps. 74.14 ; 104.26 the piercing serpent, even leviathan that crooked serpent; and he shall slay the dragon that is in the sea. IS 27
Psalms
25 So is this great and wide sea, wherein are things creeping innumerable, both small and great beasts. 26 There go the ships:
there is that leviathan, Job. 41.1 · Ps. 74.14 · Is. 27.1
whom thou hast made to play therein. PS 104

Does this sound like symbolism? Not really







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The Holy Bible: King James Version. 2000.
The Book of Job 41

This verse clearly references an intelligent serpent whom God brags he owns - "whatsoever under the heavens is mine" It also tells people, essentially -"Look you can't even stand up to the fire breathing dragon, You think you can stand up to me? I own him!"

1 Canst thou draw out leviathan Ps. 74.14 ; 104.26 · Is. 27.1
with a hook?

or his tongue with a cord which thou lettest down?
2 Canst thou put a hook into his nose?

or bore his jaw through with a thorn?
3 Will he make many supplications unto thee?

Will he speak soft words unto thee?
4 Will he make a covenant with thee?

Wilt thou take him for a servant for ever?
5 Wilt thou play with him as with a bird?

Or wilt thou bind him for thy maidens?
6 Shall the companions make a banquet of him?

Shall they part him among the merchants?
7 Canst thou fill his skin with barbed irons?

or his head with fish spears?
8 Lay thine hand upon him,

remember the battle, do no more.
9 Behold, the hope of him is in vain:

shall not one be cast down even at the sight of him?
10 None is so fierce that dare stir him up:

who then is able to stand before me?
11 Who hath prevented me, that I should repay him? Rom. 11.35

Whatsoever is under the whole heaven is mine.
12 I will not conceal his parts,

nor his power, nor his comely proportion.
13 Who can discover the face of his garment?

Or who can come to him with his double bridle?
14 Who can open the doors of his face?

His teeth are terrible round about.
15 His scales are his pride, shut up together as with a close seal.
16 One is so near to another, that no air can come between them.
17 They are joined one to another,

they stick together, that they cannot be sundered.
18 By his sneezings a light doth shine,

and his eyes are like the eyelids of the morning.
19 Out of his mouth go burning lamps,

and sparks of fire leap out.
20 Out of his nostrils goeth smoke, as out of a seething pot or caldron.
21 His breath kindleth coals, and a flame goeth out of his mouth.
22 In his neck remaineth strength, and sorrow is turned into joy before him.
23 The flakes of his flesh are joined together:

they are firm in themselves; they cannot be moved.
24 His heart is as firm as a stone; yea, as hard as a piece of the
nether millstone.
25 When he raiseth up himself, the mighty are afraid:

by reason of breakings they purify themselves.
26 The sword of him that layeth at him cannot hold:

the spear, the dart, nor the habergeon.
27 He esteemeth iron as straw,

and brass as rotten wood.
28 The arrow cannot make him flee:

sling stones are turned with him into stubble.
29 Darts are counted as stubble:

he laugheth at the shaking of a spear.
30 Sharp stones are under him:

he spreadeth sharp pointed things upon the mire.
31 He maketh the deep to boil like a pot:
he maketh the sea like a pot of ointment.
32 He maketh a path to shine after him;

one would think the deep to be hoary.
33 Upon earth there is not his like,

who is made without fear.
34 He beholdeth all high things:

he is a king over all the children of pride








[edit on 2-3-2010 by rusethorcain]

Blood doesn't mutate?

So, skin, hair, bone structure, height, weight, eye colour, etc obviously have mutations...but blood that's just totally too wierd?

This isn't even hard to look up. Blood types dna mutations, click into google scholar and you'll get quite the lot of returns.

Your understanding would be easy to expand upon.

Originally posted by TwoPhish

Originally posted by davesidious
reply to post by TwoPhish

 

Blood types are mutations. Science knows that. Scientists know, intimately, where these things come from. You spouting this again and again doesn't make it true.

Ancient cultures had reverence for reptiles? So what! That proves nothing. Beg to differ all you want. You are begging to differ with actual evidence, which only reflects poorly on you.

My understanding? Blood does not mutate.

[edit on 1-3-2010 by TwoPhish]

reply to post by autowrench


www.gotquestions.org...

The following from the above link may be an explaination...
"
Therefore, God veils Himself and appears in forms in which we can “see” Him. However, this is different than seeing God with all His glory and holiness displayed. People have seen visions of God, images of God, and appearances of God, but no one has ever seen God in all His fullness (Exodus 33:20)."

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If Reptilians 'created' man then who created the Reptilians? Who created who could go on for an infinity_unless there is one who created all and according to scripture that is the true supreme God and his son Jesus Christ. This is difficult for even Christians to understand since we all try to rationalize that everything had to come from something, however www.gotquestions.org... "God is eternal, meaning He had no beginning and His existence will never end. He is immortal and infinite (Deuteronomy 33:27; Psalm 90:2; 1 Timothy 1:17). God is immutable, meaning He is unchanging; this in turn means that God is absolutely reliable and trustworthy (Malachi 3:6; Numbers 23:19; Psalm 102:26, 27). God is incomparable; there is no one like Him in works or being. He is unequaled and perfect (2 Samuel 7:22; Psalm 86:8; Isaiah 40:25; Matthew 5:48). God is inscrutable, unfathomable, unsearchable, and past finding out as far as understanding Him completely (Isaiah 40:28; Psalm 145:3; Romans 11:33, 34)."


[edit on 2-3-2010 by Lois]

Not saying the reptiles are bad people but if they would just stop eating the babies!

Wiki Answers: WHY DO REPTILES EAT THEIR YOUNG?
Reptiles do not have a neo-cortex, the part of the brain that gives maternal affection. Because of this, babies have to hide to avoid getting eaten.


This is one of the more repulsive claims. It is the 600 pound gorilla in the room and I have to throw it out there for ridicule...

The symbol for alpha romera is a snake eating an infant.
Of course this is totally unbelievable until you look at the numbers of missing children: www.missingkids.com...
The U.S. Department of Justice’s National Incidence Study reported that 1.7 million children run away or are thrown away each year, with just 357,600 reported as missing to the police. Combined with claims from sites like this (not for the squeamish)
www.reptilianagenda.com...
www.bibliotecapleyades.net...
And lets take woman's right to terminate a pregnancy. Yes I said it. Do you ever closely observe some of the "religious right" fighting most passionately against a woman's medical privacy? They are armed and ruthless. Not always "compassionate people" for the lifes work they choose -if you catch my drift. The most notorious one lately is a killer who brought a gun into a church and murdered a man in front of his whole family. I understand a certain amount of passion for a cause but this is over the top. They are all over the top and seem to stop at nothing.

I have honestly entertained the prospect that among other groups many in the "religious right" so passionately anti abortion are not concerned with "life and when it begins" or the "soul" or even the infant fetus.

They are reptilians violently protecting a vital food source.

I know. I should be ashamed. See? Shame

This last post is from a website called, skeptoid.com It is a site created to debunk reptoid rumors but ends up telling more about them than debunking. So this is probably a reptoid posing as a skeptic it to save his hide. Reptoids have no interest in protecting their brethren.

And for people laughing...looking for scales, these are shape shifters or interdimensional beings that can attach to viable hosts. The host human may not literally a reptile but evil and cold blooded enough to be 'reptile adaptable'. Some people cannot be inhabited at all, while others are born to be "hosts"

skeptoid.com...
quote from link above:
[ Los Angeles Times news story from January 29, 1934, which is available from the Los Angeles Times archives. Geophysical mining engineer G. Warren Shufelt had been using "radio x-ray" and had discovered subterranean labyrinths beneath the city of Los Angeles, including pockets of pure gold, and taken x-ray pictures of many of the chambers. Somehow Shufelt met with a man named L. Macklin, said to go by the Hopi Indian name of Little Chief Greenleaf. Macklin told Shufelt of a Hopi legend of Lizard People, an advanced race, who built the city beneath Los Angeles to escape surface catastrophes some 5000 years ago.]

It should be easy to find out more about this Warren Shufelt. Likely somewhere on ATS already.

Originally posted by serbsta

Originally posted by autowrench
I also think that when the big "Rapture" comes, all Christians will see a hologram of Christ in the sky, and he will invite them all into a spacecraft to go to "Heaven." Only it won't be Heaven at all. The men and children will be used for food, and the women will be their sex slaves.
Of course, this is only what I think, but it's based of years of research.

Really?

I would love to see some of this research since it is a bold prediction you're making.

Awaiting your reply, cheers.

Years of research... I read today again about Project Blue Beam, something I came across first about 5 years ago, when I started lurking this site. Some combination of satellite projection onto a portion of the atmosphere that has been polarized for use as a viewscreen of a type by the HAARP apparatus. Apparently, this is going to be used by the NWO very shortly to subdue and control the masses around the world. That's what I read anyway, hey... maybe it is the reptilians. Maybe the reptilians are the NWO. Wait, maybe Obama's a reptilian. I guess all of these are/can be/probably are true...

I just cringe when I see people claiming 'years of research' (read as: 'reading stuff on the internet'), and 'obvious fact' (read as: 'embrace ignorance').

I also remember someone claiming Occam's Razor close to the beginning of this thread. Yes, I guess the simplest explanation for the Iraqi invasion would be that Saddam Hussein had discovered some ancient reptilian artifact and/or technology, so we had to go in and take it away. And subsequently find him hiding in a hole and hang him. So simple an explanation, in fact, I wonder how it escaped the rest of the world for so long. And here we thought it had something to do with the geo-political sphere of influence on the middle east region and the control of petroleum resources. What a bunch of idiots, those who thought that was the simplest explanation.

There is a portion of this story that I believe is true. I will only say that the most effective lies are those that are based in truth. The bible is one example of this principle.

Please, people, don't go the way of the Christians. Take off the tin foil hats and put on your thinking caps! Actually USE Occam's Razor for once. Don't make things more complicated just because it's fun, or because the truth might not be exciting enough for you.

reply to post by TwoPhish


Royal Blood? memes.org...


RH Neg Registry www.rhnegativeregistry.com...

So interesting! I had to EDIT IN this quote from the link above:

[Having Rh Positive (Rh+) Blood means that you have the Rhesus Monkey Protein in your blood cells. Having Rh Negative (Rh-) Blood means that you DO NOT have the Rhesus Monkey Protein. This is important because people with Rh- Blood cannot take a transfusion of Rh+ Blood, they do not mix.

In fact the difference is so extreme that when an Rh- Woman becomes pregnant with an Rh+ baby, she will naturally produce Anti-bodies that seek out to find and destroy the foreign body; their unborn baby.

This strange occurrence of a Mother's body physically attacking its own offspring is otherwise unheard of. Modern Medicine has produced ways to stop this from occurring in today's pregnancies.

While some of the issues around having Rh Negative Blood have been revealed; the origin of the Rh Negative Factor in Human Blood is still unknown. In nature the only occurrence that has ever been recorded was during the Species Crossbreeding of a Horse and a Donkey; which resulted in a sterile Rh- Mule.

The best answer Science can currently offer as a "fact" is that the introduction of the Rh negative Factor crossed into the current pool of blood types approximately 35,000 years ago and it's origin in unknown at this time. (35,000 yrs- approximate orbit of Nibiru?)

The Problem with Rh Negative Blood
We know the Rh Negative Factor is a rare blood type and can affect pregnancy, but it has other differentiating attributes as well.

Rh- Blood is a recessive trait and comes out in people less often, therefore its production in nature is limited. Furthermore, Rh Negative Blood cannot be mutated or cloned, which also limits the possibility of creating Artificial Rh Negative Plasma in the Scientific Realm. ] quote from above link


Rh Negative Blood cannot be mutated or cloned,





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reply to post by SmokeJaguar67


good points made.,but in my opinion wars are fought for numerous reasons,the main reason being the fear that is generated . the fourth dimensional reptilians feed on the energy generated by fear, anguish, terror,grief,etc.

reply to post by rusethorcain


and the word seraph (singular for seraphim (a race of angels) is translated in the original hebrew thusly:

8314 saraph saw-rawf' from 8313; burning, i.e. (figuratively) poisonous (serpent); specifically, a saraph or symbolical creature (from their copper color):--fiery (serpent), seraph.
www.eliyah.com...

reply to post by autowrench

Were Humans Created by Reptilians?

Yes in a way they "created us" by trapping us in our present form, the form of matter in a physical 3rd dimension reality. (not our true potential or natural state by any means)

However this is not the real question we should be asking ourselves is it? We need to accept this (as hard as that may be) unite as a species and ask ourselves the real question....What do we do about it? By doing something about it is the only way to become free again (as we used to be)


Evolve spiritually or remain their prisoner, the choice is ours.

I have chosen the path to freedom, Im tired of this control and manipulation, so are you at source or this thread would not have caused such interest.

Continue to ask and seek its your path home out of their control.






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Originally posted by TwoPhish
Yes! You know why? Because it makes more sense to believe we were brought here opposed to being a by-product of an ape or fish (or from the rib of Adam).

We have blood types (RH negative) which cannot be explained. Those of us who have that factor were crossed with something, somewhere at some point in our past. That is a scientific fact and mystery!

Why does it make more sense that we were brought here by an alien race than evolution... Also, RH neg could not have been a natural process? With millions of years of evolving it couldn't happen naturally?

So to entertain the concept we were engineered by off-world entities makes perfect sense to me! However, man will need to rewrite history, science & religion and after all, that's a huge tedious task to undertake!

But then the question becomes, where did THEY originate from? We're just not meant to know all answers at/in this present incarnation, that's all.

I think the main question is do they exist at all. What you kind of demonstrated here is circular logic by validating the existence of an unknown by using another unknown.

I do think our past is interesting but I think we have a long way to go to even get to the "are they real" stage and so I agree with your last statement.




[edit on 2-3-2010 by Xtrozero]

reply to post by Sparkey76


Legends are great, but just think what a person might believe of our time if they translated Lord of the Rings 10,000 years from now.

Can I just add that I absolutely hate it when people on this site respond to threads by quoting references and text from the bible?

Some of the statements and quotes in the bible are interesting but they can be applied against or for any argument with a little inventiveness.

It is not fair or correct to use personal interpretation of the bibles quotes to validate or support any argument.

The second thing I cannot stand is when people reply to threads such as this one and speak as if they are an authority on the subject.

No one on this site can say "yes humans were created by reptilians because of so and so...." do you know why? Because there is no proof or evidence of any kind to support that crazy theory.

Theres probably alot of people on here who believe in reptilians, theres also probably alot who believe they created human beings but just because thats what some people believe it doesn't make it fact!

Everyone is entitled to their own opinions and its great to share them on this site but please stop posting personal theories as fact because its inaccurate.

If I believe the sky is pink then more fool me but I won't come onto this site and say the sky is pink and I know because of an inter-dimensional time warp.

Thats about as much substance as some of the replies on this thread and this site in general contain.

Originally posted by autowrench

Originally posted by B.Morrison

originally posted by autowrench
And what about the "cunning serpent in the Garden of Edin? This is the correct spelling of the word, BTW.

why have I read it 'ED.EN' then? (in the 'ancients' series sumerians thread)

-B.M

[edit on 1/3/10 by B.Morrison]

OK, should have wrote it as ED.IN.

actually if what I said was correct (I don't know if it is...which is why I asked you... ) then you should have written it as ED.EN...but whatever...

I was into content, not so must as correct spelling of the Sumerian language. After all, I cannot read and understand the language, I suppose you can, so I stand corrected.

dude....Its was a genuine question. Why you decided I was being sarcastic, took it personally, and then reciprecated with an insult rather than answering the question, says more about YOU, than anything else.

I never claimed to be any kind of expert, I even explicitly pointed out where the "ED.EN" spelling came from....but just for you....here is the link...

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Peace...
-B.M

P.S) "don't take it personally" - Nassim Haramein


[edit on 2/3/10 by B.Morrison]

reply to post by rusethorcain

Originally posted by rusethorcain
reply to post by TwoPhish

 

Royal Blood? memes.org...

Very interesting fact at the end of that link that I did not know about is that RH Negative Blood cannot be mutated or cloned.

I find that interesting as I have the RH AB negative blood type and one thing I can confirm objectively is that I rarely get sick, the last time I suffered flu I was aged twelve and cuts and bruises heal very quickly and I also have a very high pain threshold.

a strange coincidence IS that my Scottish clan motto is "S Rioghail Mo Dhream" which is translated as “Royal is my race” and sometimes translated as “Royal is my blood”.

No I am not saying I am a reptoid, I am just pointing out an interesting coincidence before anyone jumps on me

Thanks for posting the link, fascinating stuff

I only recently remembered i had copied this passage from a translated version of The Emerald Tablets of Thoth that i found quite interesting, and very un nerving at the same time! :

Far in the past before Atlantis existed,
men there were who delved into darkness,
using dark magic, calling up beings
from the great deep below us.
Forth came they into this cycle.
Formless were they of another vibration,
existing unseen by the children of earth-men.
Only through blood could they have formed being.
Only through man could they live in the world.

In ages past were they conquered by Masters,
driven below to the place whence they came.
But some there were who remained,
hidden in spaces and planes unknown to man.
Lived they in Atlantis as shadows,
but at times they appeared among men.
Aye, when the blood was offered,
for they came they to dwell among men.

In the form of man they amongst us,
but only to sight were they as are men.
Serpent-headed when the glamour was lifted
but appearing to man as men among men.
Crept they into the Councils,
taking forms that were like unto men.
Slaying by their arts
the chiefs of the kingdoms,
taking their form and ruling o'er man.
Only by magic could they be discovered.
Only by sound could their faces be seen.
Sought they from the Kingdom of shadows
to destroy man and rule in his place.

The Emerald Tablets Of Thoth

reply to post by okbmd

Originally posted by okbmd
reply to post by SmokeJaguar67

 

good points made.,but in my opinion wars are fought for numerous reasons,the main reason being the fear that is generated . the fourth dimensional reptilians feed on the energy generated by fear, anguish, terror,grief,etc.

Actually I find your hypothesis believable but then I am highly suspicious of the reasons we as a race have been engaged on a culture of eternal warfare since the time we fought each other with rocks for the choice mammoth cuts.

I used to think that war was just a part of what makes us what we are – a regressive species of blood ravening apes but then I realised that not all people hanker for war or respect those that wage such acts. The enlightened people who hold to the conscientious objector status come what may and the people who advocate striving for peace by any and all means indicate to me that we are not as warlike and blood thirsty as we might think.

Perhaps we have just been conditioned to think that the way of things is the way of war.

I also believe in the concepts of positive and negative energies so it also stands to reasons that like predators feeding on flesh and blood there would be predators that would and probably could feed of energy because flesh and blood is a form of energy that has just been locked into a solid. Digestion converts and I think a similar principle applies when karmic energy is considered in a similar way.

As a man who loves to meditate often and for prolonged periods I know for a fact that there is a matrix of energy that surrounds everything and is inside everything therefore a being that could literally feed off such a matrix would be a very advantageous trait to have.

I think there could be something to what you say and yet the thought that there is a hidden race literally hiding in full view, separated only by a vibrational frequency gives me the chills especially when their suposed low opinion of us is considered.