The Gay Agenda -- You Can't Be Serious?

I never knew there was a 'Gay Agenda'. Im straight, but I say live and let live.

You don't think there is a gay agenda, but there is, a political one anyway. Take Arkansas for instance, they recently ended the practice of barring homosexuals from sheltering foster children by ignoring serious evidence that living in a homosexual family causes mental illness in foster children at an alarming rate. This issue is not fear that the children will be molested, but that the stress of having to deal with adult sexuality is just too much for them and they commit suicide at an alarming rate.This is covered in an ATS thread Here
Another issue is the takeover financially of churches by the Gay Agenda. If you look at the history of the Presbyterian church, they employed some gays in their staff and they took over. Now churches that don't want to ordain gay ministers can leave the church but only by paying millions of dollars. The community churches that scrimped and saved and paid off their building loans over time have to either hand over their buildings or pay millions of dollars to the presbytery.This was a very good business move for the gays.Infiltrate a church, drive off the members and use the profits to promote the gay agenda
It's fine to say live and let live, but live and let die is more appropriate.The Presbyterian church for one is in it's death throes.
The Gay Agenda, You can't be serious! But those gays agenda people are a very serious bunch.



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Great post and some great responses. Could it be the well written intelligent OP encouraged well written intelligent responses?

I have to say I consider myself Lucky - very Lucky. I got a job when I was in my early 30s at a company that primarily hired gays/lesbians - even couples. I was the minority being straight.

Prior to that I had no contact or knowledge of gays (that I was aware of).

People are People - - and that's all there is to it.

Were the gays/lesbians I worked with "group think"? NO - not even close.

Like everyone - - they were completely individual. They did not all like each other. They did not even agree on "all things gay".

We are all just people.

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To me homophobia is ignorance and fear of unknown.

I often wonder what my thoughts would be if I hadn't gotten that job.

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Religion? Well there are many religious people who are capable of independent thought - - the rest need to mind their own business.

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Originally posted by MrXYZ
reply to post by EndOfTheWorld7

 

Also, your "you have to be gay to make big $$$" is a load of bull#. Brad Pitt, not gay, Tom Cruise, not gay, Jon Travolta, not gay, Will Smith, not gay, Jay-Z, not gay, Johnny Depp, not gay, Eddie Murphy, not gay, Leo DiCaprio, not gay, Bruce Willis (lol), not gay, Ben Stiller, not gay...and the list goes on. Those are the top male actors/musicians!!

I hate to burst your bubble, but Tom Cruise is TOTALLY gay. Leo DiCaprio, not gay??? Are you serious? And Ben Stiller is questionable AT BEST...

Originally posted by Moonman1111
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No, most americans would call you a biggot. I'm not, since I'm not an American, but as a Canadian, your a biggot.

And you if think I "got a hold" of three children to play "family" than your also ignorant.

I wanted to raise children, so I had something to leave behind. So I could say I produce intelligent, well grounded and productive members of society?

What do you have to show for yourself?

Silly self righteous types and your arrogance to think that "most americans" agree with you. There's over 300 million of you, do you honestly think you are so intelligent and your ideas are so well put together and your morals are so well received by ALL those people?

Ridiculous...

~Keeper


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reply to post by m khan


So those studies you pointed out? Where they peer reviewed? Funded by religious groups?

You don't see the bias in the reporting do you? Of course not, it simply fits your idea of what homosexual couples or families look like so you need not pay attention to where it comes from, or where it draws it's conclusions from.

Good job

~Keeper

reply to post by Moonman1111


here is American number 1 in the poll with a resounding answer of "you don't speak for me"


-Kyo



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reply to post by m khan


that's gonna happen with any organized group that has a different viewpoint on issues than another. christianity was never about a building anyway. it's about the communion between the believer and his creator, which doesn't require a building. the building only serves the purpose of bringing people of like mind together for edification. but you can be just as edified at the park, or your living room or the beach for that matter. just takes 2 people ya know.


i recall a church that was part of an organization that had a certain doctrine. the pastor decided after much praying, reading and deliberating, that he didn't agree with that one doctrine, and he said as much to his congregation. the board of the organization, showed up, kicked him out of the organization and demanded he pay them for the building if he intended to stay there. so his congregation got together the money and paid for the building. so it happens, even between 2 non homosexual christian organizations.

the issue to remember is that gay people are still human beings, and christians are still human beings, and all are commanded YES COMMANDED, to love their neighbor as themselves. this doesn't mean after you've kicked him in the teeth for being polka-dotted or a worshipper of flying invisible spaghetti monster, but REGARDLESS of whether he's polka-dotted or worships flying invisible spaghetti monsters.

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The deepest flaw with your analysis is the point at which you Godwin the GLBTQ and Civil Rights movements. This is not because of the Godwinning itself; that is simply what we on the internet call a facepalm moment. The problem is that you associate these two movements, minority movements which are not in power, with the Nazi regime, which ruled its country and several others.

I find that being "against" blacks is being against special racial tags. Blacks are against whites....just try to start a White History Month, United White College, etc. Wait around for ten minutes and Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, etc will be right on top of you.

This is another of those facepalm moments I mentioned

Originally posted by romanmel
reply to post by tothetenthpower

 

The fact that you feel compelled to come on a site such as ATS and promo a sexual preference proves your agenda argument, I am hetrosexual...I don't discuss it. Don't feel I have to. Homosexuals, on the other hand, talk of little else than their chosen perversion. Thus the gay agenda exists, my friend.

Any agenda that exists in this sense exists only insofar as it is forced to exist by heterosexuals who are not yourself and do think about homosexuality and try to eradicate it. Like that Jim fellow up there. Their existence demands that homosexuals organize a little, creating a gay agenda the same way that there has been a feminist agenda, that there has been a black agenda, that there has been a civil rights agenda. It is only to achieve the same rights as "normal" people -- that is, straight white men.

Originally posted by Deaf Alien
reply to post by Edrick

 

The existence of homosexuality BEFORE the chemical assault began was at a MUCH lower percentage of the total population that it is today.

I assume that you have sources to back that assertion up?

Well there's no record of them so they must not have existed! it can't have anythign to do with them not being acceptable at all or anything, no way.

Originally posted by Acidtastic
... I do agree that being gay is prehaps natures way of keeping the population down. But that's just a little theory I cooked up. Not based in any sort of facts.

See, I don't believe this, but I could. It makes perfect sense.

Originally posted by russ212
Deviant behavour in the presance of children skews reality for them.

So does "standard" behavior in the presence of children.

Originally posted by ReverseDecay
And alot of lesbians are simply man haters. All because one man did them wrong at some point in time, so that justifies in their minds to hate all men in general, unless he is a gay man then they tend to flock together.

This is just plain untrue. This is a myth which exists for some reason, probably come up with my heterosexual men who were upset about not getting to have sex with lesbians. Of course some lesbians hate men, but I suspect it's a lot less than the proportion of straight or asexual women who hate men.

Originally posted by Symetra
reply to post by Acidtastic

 

Calvin is of a sect and is based on arianism, and wants/ thinks he can get to Heaven with his cult followers under the adding and taking out of the Bible under his guise of "predestination."

So, Calvin would think it is ok, any thing goes, so does homosexuality.

Calvin is a heritic, and Jesus Christ is my docrine.

That is the worst misrepresentation of Calvinism I have ever seen. People who are not virtuous do not get to go to heaven in Calvinism either; the thing is, the people who are virtuous have been chosen ahead of time. That is what the predestination is; the people who are going to heaven are already chosen, and they will act in such a way that had they not been chosen, they would go to heaven.

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reply to various posts...

There are a lot of very masculine gay men. "Feminization" has nothing to do with homosexuality, or at least has a very minimal impact on its existence. I'm a fairly feminine man, according to such people as my lesbian roommate and my girlfriend, and I am very much into women. The feminine form is soooo aesthetically pleasing

Also, why do so many people refuse to use the enter key? Paragraphs exist for a reason. a very, very good reason.

Originally posted by KyoZero
reply to post by Moonman1111

 

here is American number 1 in the poll with a resounding answer of "you don't speak for me"

-Kyo

Me either.

Don't ya just love it when someone declares what MOST Americans think.

My congratulations to the OP for having a good and loving relationship. Relationships are SO very difficult as everyone knows.

I applaud anyone of any sexual proclivity who has a solid relationship.

I however am bothered by the "Agenda" of certain segments of the gay population. I REALLY find it objectionable when I hear of gay sex practices being discussed and taught in schools, kids who are gay know it at an early age. I doubt they need any further instruction. I also do not understand why gays have this urge to advertise their sexuality in an "in your face" kind of way.

I think in a way gays are their own worst enemy in this regard. I don't walk around with a T shirt on saying "I'm straight and I am proud". I find it repulsive when I see such outward advertising of anyone's sexuality. There is just no reason for it. I think most people would be a lot more accepting of the lifestyle if gay people would just live it and shut up about it.

"Suppose there was an intelligence, vast and unknowable. Suppose it lit the big bang, suppose it wrote the laws of physics, and has been subtly moulding the universe for 14 billion years. Now keep a straight face and tell me that it cares where you stick your dick."

-Dr. Michio Kaku

And that's all I got to say about that.

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Hi hi! been a while since I saw you posting where I was....wanna see something cool?

Acceptance of Gays on the Rise

Gllup Poll Shows 59% of people accepting of gays

So...it's been a year since statistics class...59 > 51 (51 is what you need to show MOST Americans agree with you)

-Kyo

Originally posted by tothetenthpower

No, most americans would call you a biggot. I'm not, since I'm not an American, but as a Canadian, your a biggot.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!

I must directly thank you for the very good laugh.

I cannot stand those people.

In the OP you asked how has homosexuality negatively affected my life?
Well, I am not homosexual, therefor it has not affected me in a negative way. I did move out of my parents house when i was 15 and moved into my homosexual friend's apartment, where i grew up fast and learned much about life. He was living on his own because his parents disowned him due to his homosexuality.

So i guess homosexuality only affects homosexuals negatively because they have to put of with the intolerance of homophobic people.

I say homosexuality is just nature's population control

Why can't people focus on themselves and their own faults instead of badmouthing those who are trying to find inner peace? (Insecurity?)


Peace

Originally posted by Moonman1111
I want to know how a 'married' homosexual such as yourself managed to get a hold of 3 kids just so you can play 'family'. What you do with your butthole is your business, but those three children should not be brought up by two homosexual males, that is just a [snipped for decorum] BIG NO in my book. And I am safely able to say that most Americans agree with me on this issue.

Not for nothing but if I were a child, I'd rather have the OP as a parent than your hateful self!

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Children need love, and they'd rather get it from two male parents than be bred into hate by a man and a woman.

Oh and btw, civil rights aren't a popularity contest (or at least they shouldn't be), they are a constitutional issue ... this isn't American Idol.

Suggested reading about such fallacious resoning: Argumentum ad Populum

An argumentum ad populum (Latin: "appeal to the people"), in logic, is a fallacious argument that concludes a proposition to be true because many or all people believe it; it alleges, "If many believe so, it is so."

And so it goes ...

Dear god they Gay agenda has been contorted so badly I have to fix the kink in the grapevine.

The truth is the gay agenda..is attached to a network of agendas for the purpose of population control. if everybody is gay then breeding is slowed if not halted and that is just a part of the MASTER plan,

the rest is genetic modification to food and water ,soil & seed cells by electromagnetic disruption, wearing shoes keeps up the "Good work".

Static build up in the body short circuiting the cell structure and neurological communications and biochemical imbalance. accelerated aging and organ failure. Mental disillusion from dehydration and poor eating habits. Induced confusion and paranoia leading to street violence and sexually stimulated sociopathic behavioral disorders abound. bio-feedback embedded media and destructive techniques in boards and forums as well as games and movies keep one too busy to truly prepare. we sit and talk and die and wait for death and truly accomplish nothing. like sitting ducks we are cut off from each other and our own self awareness. That's the truth in a nutshell.
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Originally posted by Moonman1111
Really? You seriously call me a bigot because I don't want to see orphaned children being picked up and raised by homosexuals, regardless if they're upstanding community members or not? I guess thats the difference between me and you.

It would be so much cooler to leve them orphaned I guess

It just appears to some of us that you don't have any issues with the kids. It appears that the issue is with gay's period. That's where some of us on this side run into a problem

-Kyo

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Well firstly, only two of my children was adopted, and they were no Orphans, the other two were CONCEIVED with a woman who happens to be a very close friend of mine.

And please provide a source that says most Americans agree with you, please. Cause if it's just something you think is true, then your wrong.

Gee and for a backwater country we sure do pretty well don't we?

And my children are the most important thing in my life, people like you fail to realize that we don't really focus on the sex aspect of it, at all.

It's about the love me and my husband share, for each other, not our body parts.

If you weren't a bigot, you'd have thought of that, but obviously you are banging your head against a wall and there is no attempting to make you see the other side, you simply don't want to.

Your just content living in your little bubble.

~Keeper

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