The Gay Agenda -- You Can't Be Serious?

As homosexuality is an abomination to the Jewish/ Christian faith, religions of Lutherfarianism has creeped in to society under the guise of neo-theosophical philosophies.

Well, a step up higher, the Caholics (St Satanists) are secretly condoning homosexuality in their clergy as the blending of sexes has emerged. Look at the Baphomet symbol, a corner stone of Freemasonry. I like it how Catholics say that they don't worship the god of light, but are the Satanic religion.

Lucifer is Satan, and Plagiarism is of the Lutherfarian doctrine wanting to illiminate every Jew on earth, to usher in their NWO still under the Jesuit order to Satan (Vatican building- seat).

Zion rules, anti-zionism is of the god of Catholicism (Rome). Christ is the Saviour, so the neo-theosophical philosophy of the Satanic United/ Luther cult under Plagiarism (getting into heaven without christ- copy, plagiarise) will loose at armageddon.

Jews/ Christians RULE!

Originally posted by russ212

So again you really don't have an answer outside of people might see you? In one sentence you say you don't have issues with homosexuality yet in another we suddenly have to protect our kids from 'these people.' Frankly I think if homosexuality undermines society it will be because the religious right will make way too big a deal out of two dudes kissing. Maybe...and I will say this again and again and again...the religious right should practice what is given to them by their Lord. Judge not. We aren't asking for pedophilia to be ok. We are asking for it to be ok for gay people to marry. Let's not forget all the hetero households who adopt kids and abuse them physically, emotionally and sexually. Hetero's have many skeletons in their closet as well.

-Kyo

reply to post by Acidtastic


I do not being told to shut up first of all. And this is exactly my point. Who is the one that is being oppressive? Who is the one calling names?

It is not me, I am merely sharing by beliefs just like everyone else on this board. I am not calling you stupid for not agreeing with me. Just stating that people that do not see how their actions effect others around them are ignorant.

I believe you are entitled to your beliefs as much as I am mine. But people like you are exactly how I am effected. If you disagree with me that is okay, state your opinion, but DO NOT ACT LIKE A CHILD AND CALL ME NAMES. IF I MAKE YOU MAD THAT IS OKAY, I REALLY DON'T CARE, BUT I EXPECT YOU TO TREAT ME WITH THE SAME RESPECT THAT I HAVE BEEN TREATING PEOPLE WITH.

PEOPLE LIKE YOU SHOW HOW STRAIGHT PEOPLE ARE EFFECTED BY HOMOSEXUALITY. WE ARE PUSHED DOWN, NOT ALLOWED TO SPEAK OUR MIND, TOLD WE ARE EVIL FOR HAVING A DIFFERENT OPINION. TO HELL WITH THAT. MY OPINION IS JUST AS GOOD AS YOURS SIR

Touchy touchy subject indeed...
First thing I will say... I do not agree with the gay or lesbian lifestyle. It actually grosses me out to a degree. For most part, anal sex just seems wrong and unsanitary. And alot of lesbians are simply man haters. All because one man did them wrong at some point in time, so that justifies in their minds to hate all men in general, unless he is a gay man then they tend to flock together. Well get over it I say to them, because I have had plenty fair share of women screwing me over for selfish reasons in the past and present as well, but I still love them. However I do not go on gay bashing sprees, and I loathe the ones that do such things. That is definitely not right to hurt anyone because of their choices they made... so please don't consider me "A hater". The one thing that really irks me the most though is a bisexual. I really wish they would just make up their minds. And statistically are doubling the chances of spreading disease in both sexes. Not saying that all gay people have diseases though, but there are a lot of gay people with HIV. I am not sure if anyone is familiar with a sick fad going on these days called "The Aids Gifters" I was shocked to stumble upon several message boards relating to this. And yes they all are gay men, and they have POZ parties. Where they try to get the most STD's they can, then hailing them like trophies and boasting on their blood count levels and how low they are. And their goal... To have full blown aids and spread it everywhere. I even read several people bragging on how they had unprotected sex with another man and did not tell him they had HIV and they are praised by others for doing so. And the language they use to meet up with each other is beyond vile. I won't post a link to such filth on here. But if you don't believe it search it up yourself, that was my motivation, because it was too bad to be true. Not saying that the majority of gay men think this way I promise. But it is rather odd that all the gifters are gay males. Never once did I see a straight one on these boards. I could only take so much reading of it til it turned my stomach and I never returned. That it self is a form of agenda if you ask me. Another agenda... the feminization of straight males. It seems to be a problem more and more every day. The media is responsible for alot of it. The agenda is to make all males more sensitive than before. Women even expect this from men in many cases, and make them wear pink shirts and such. I imagine it makes them feel safer to have a sensitive male counterpart than a man who is "Manly" I happen to be the later. I like who I am and it would seem that is most important. All for what? well if you have a country full of sensitive bi-sexual males the odds of a physical resistance in times of absolute control are much more slim if the man has been drained of normal testosterone levels. Not bashing, just stating what I see around me... How has it affected me? Makes me worry alot more about the future of sexuality, feel pitty for alot of my fellow men who are whipped as they call it. Makes me sick at my stomach to even think about these STD obsessed freaks with their POZ parties while they act like anal vampires and even refer to it as turning someone. Funny I have been hit on by more gay men than women. Especially when I worked at a bar and I was nice, but some of them were almost insistent to the point that I had to be rude to them. Don't knock it til you've tried a few of them told me... but I am not buying it in the first place. So yeah it does affect me, and I am convinced there are multiple agendas to be honest. Hope this post doesn't offend. I do not hate homosexuals! And I have seen DNA evidence that people can be born gay. I am so sorry that honest gay people have to be subject to such bashing and discrimination. The straight white man is the next minority in the coming times.

Originally posted by Calvinette
9 Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, 1 Cor. 6:9

There is no getting around it, if you are a Christian and believe the Bible to be God's Word to his children you also believe that what He say's is for our good. That being said how can we call it hate when its our creator that warns us of this lifestyle. There is a reason for why God says what He does...so to go on living remaining silent would be hate.

you also have to kill people for blasphemy, via stoning. or for having a garden hedge a little too high, or for cussing parents. that is, of course, if you believe the WHOLE bible is the word of god. And not just pick and choose bits which suit your own prejudices. When was the last time you killed inthe name of God?

reply to post by KyoZero


Yes we do, no one is implying that we don't. Do you not understand that it is more than being seen. We are teaching our children that deviant behavour is not only right, but it is also good and should be considered normal. I also don't want someone telling my children that it is good to smoke pot, or drink excessive amounts of alcohol just because it is something our society tolerates.

Originally posted by russ212
reply to post by Acidtastic

 

I do not being told to shut up first of all. And this is exactly my point. Who is the one that is being oppressive? Who is the one calling names?

It is not me, I am merely sharing by beliefs just like everyone else on this board. I am not calling you stupid for not agreeing with me. Just stating that people that do not see how their actions effect others around them are ignorant.

I believe you are entitled to your beliefs as much as I am mine. But people like you are exactly how I am effected. If you disagree with me that is okay, state your opinion, but DO NOT ACT LIKE A CHILD AND CALL ME NAMES. IF I MAKE YOU MAD THAT IS OKAY, I REALLY DON'T CARE, BUT I EXPECT YOU TO TREAT ME WITH THE SAME RESPECT THAT I HAVE BEEN TREATING PEOPLE WITH.

PEOPLE LIKE YOU SHOW HOW STRAIGHT PEOPLE ARE EFFECTED BY HOMOSEXUALITY. WE ARE PUSHED DOWN, NOT ALLOWED TO SPEAK OUR MIND, TOLD WE ARE EVIL FOR HAVING A DIFFERENT OPINION. TO HELL WITH THAT. MY OPINION IS JUST AS GOOD AS YOURS SIR

*worlds biggest facepalm*

I;m sorry, you can't say stuff like "I don't want to start a mud slinging match" and then come out with hate filled rubbish like you did, and not expect some strong feelings back. Straight people have been effecting the lives of gay people for years and years and years. When was the last time you heard of people getting killed just because they are straight? How does my being gay effect your life 1 little tiny bit? Please do tell, because I'm all ears like.

THE STUFF I SAID WAS NOT HATE FILLED. JUST BECAUSE I DO NOT AGREE WITH SOMETHING SOMEONE SAYS DOES NOT MEAN I HATE THEM, AND I ACTUALLY STATED THAT.


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reply to post by Symetra


Can you rephrase that in something approaching English, and as a bonus, maybe keep it on topic??

Originally posted by russ212
THE STUFF I SAID WAS NOT HATE FILLED. JUST BECAUSE I DO NOT AGREE WITH SOMETHING SOMEONE SAYS DOES NOT MEAN I HATE THEM, AND I ACTUALLY STATED THAT.


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I'm sorry ,but when you say that children should be protected from people like me, that IS hate filled, it comes from hate. Simple. Well, maybe not hate, but at the very least, pure ignorance. You are a fundamentalist. And you're just as bad as the fundies who kill in the name of god. Born from pure brain warping ignorance. I don't really care what your view is, when it's filled with bile, you're getting the same right back. Can't handle it? Tough.

reply to post by tothetenthpower


My best friend is a homosexual woman.

So I guess the impact has been mostly positive.

We do argue from time to time, about stuff like politics and conspiracy theories. I don't think her homosexuality is a factor in our discrepancies though.

A bisexual friend of mine has made passes at me. I don't blame him, I suppose I would do the same if I was in his shoes. But it has taught me how creepy it is for a woman when a man she is not into makes a pass at her, so it has taught me a valuable lesson. He is still a good friend of mine, though I have to watch out when he gets drunk

A homosexual man is a coworker of mine, and he is very good at his work and very professional. I don't think his homosexuality influences his professionalism either way. Although it surely sets a higher standard by which he is judged by others.

Since I think I have a substantial number of bisexual, homosexual and poly-amorous people in my circle of friends and acquaintances, to the point that the number of monogamous heterosexual people around me are only a majority by a small margin, I can tell you that I have a pretty good sense about their collective intentions, and if anything they just want to make a better world through art, culture, love and mutual respect, and because a relatively high percentage of them do not raise kids (by choice), they have a great opportunity to spend their energies that way. All the power to them for that!

I don't believe gay people have any agenda. Some are politically involved and some are not. Among those politically involved you have the same you have with the general population, you have people you agree with and people you disagree with. Their homosexuality does not color any of their political positions, except maybe their wish for equal rights, which I think is well justified.

-rrr

Why do people always talk about Gays and Lesbians in the same way. They are not the same. It is kind of like talking about smokers and nonsmokers the same. or vegitarians and meat eaters.

Gays like the meat stick, Lesbians do not. How can they encourage each other to do something they themselves have sworn off. It is hypocritical.

A couple of the problems that I have with Gays. First, they say taking it up the butt is o.k. because some women take it up the butt. Man butt and woman butt is not the same. That is like comparing strawberries to Man butt. Man butt is nasty.

They also compare descrimination of Gays to the Descrimination of Blacks. Being Gay and being Black are NOT the same thing.

As for the agenda; It would not surprise me if some worldwide subliminal message was causing men to let other men poke thim.

I'm only kidding. Take it if you want to silly homosexual. Just don't stink up the house too much you know.



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reply to post by Acidtastic


Calvin is of a sect and is based on arianism, and wants/ thinks he can get to Heaven with his cult followers under the adding and taking out of the Bible under his guise of "predestination."

So, Calvin would think it is ok, any thing goes, so does homosexuality.

Calvin is a heritic, and Jesus Christ is my docrine.

reply to post by davesidious


This is simple English, and is precisely on topic, the origons on the acceptance of Homosexuality.

As a Christian, homosexuality is defined as an abomination and a sinful act. But so is fornication and adultery. There are two world viewpoints here. One is the Christian world view that says that it is sin and such marriages are not really marriages at all except by the State. The average world view is that gay is ok. Personally, homosexuality stirs up nauseating feelings and repulsive thoughts. I do not despise or hate gays just as don't hate fornicators or adulterers. They do as they please. But they should understand that there will always be those that will never see gay as being ok. And when asked by people what I think about it, instead of making myself a judge, I simply say what the Bible says about it and leave it at that. It's not a matter of homophobia but a matter of acceptance or rejection. I don't accept homosexuality and believe what the Bible says, that God sees it as sin. It's a lust like any other that one can get drawn into for whatever reasons, and in the end one makes the choice to cross over. At least that's the way it seems to me.

reply to post by tothetenthpower


As a straight man let me tell you my take on this...

I don't care...

My thoughts are, gay people aren't out to change anyone, aren't out to destroy families, aren't out to do anything but live their lives.

I don't know what the big deal is. I think that everyone deserves to get married, be miserable and bitch about their spouse.

Originally posted by In nothing we trust

Originally posted by tothetenthpower

Joking aside, what's your reasoning?

Because masonry is a secret society of men who hide in the dark.

And christian men seem to talk about loving thier brother alot.

And men in American business seem to hang around in pairs quite alot.

The anchient greeks practiced both homosexuality and lesbianism and we have quite the greek fraternal culture here in the American university system. Maybe this is one of the methods of indoctrination.

I have to wonder if homosexuality and lesbianism are learned activities or natural activities.

There are to considerations about whether being gay can be learned. First: Whether it is possible at all and second whether it matters.

To answer the first question do the following very simple thought experiment... Do you think you could learn to be homosexual? Do you think you could teach yourself to stop being attractive to whatever sex you are currently attracted to? don't answer yet....

And second.... suppose that you could (and I anticipate your answer would be no, as would be the answer for the majority of people) Does the fact that an activity can be learned undermines its morality?

If being a Christian is a learned activity, does that make it morally wrong to be a Christian?

If you learned to enjoy the taste of coffee or beer, does that make it morally wrong to enjoy a beer?

What exactly would be your point if in fact homosexuality was a learned activity? (which I suspect it isn't)

-rrr

reply to post by Oaktree


I couldn't agree more, and to add I believe it's the governmental intervention into all things "moral" that has set our society off balance. It is our morals, those things which are for the most part, private, that make us much of who we are. Additionally, because of the very private nature of those morals, it can NEVER be the governments job to intervene or in anyway legislate fore or against such things.

I understand that this country was founded on Judeo-Christian beliefs and that the basis by which this country was founded was simply to escape religious persecution. And yet, the very morality that we continually allow our legislators to judge and control, may be the very thing that will always serve to be a flashpoint in our society.

I have no axe to grind with the OP or for anyone who identifies themselves as "gay". If you wish to bring that label upon yourself, then be prepared for the separation that it implies and the attention of the bigots that is rampant in our society. If there is any bone I have to pick with the OP is that he is bothering us with his homosexuality, by speaking out on the subject of it.

On the specific question of how homosexuality has negatively impacted my life or others; I simply don't see a negative impact in the least, so long as it does not serve to perpetuate the pervasive and ever-growing level of governmental intervention in our lives.

The zealots have obviously had their Weeties early this morning by the looks of things.

Just goes to show that many people who claim to have strong religious beliefs are the biggest hypocrites of all. To my knowledge, the majority of religions teach tolerance and love for your fellow man regardless.

I don't know how some of the zealots who have posted on this thread can reconcile their religious beliefs with what they've posted.

And dont go quoting the Old Testament on me. That book is the biggest load of crap ever written. From a Christian POV, anything written pre Jesus is irrelevant.

reply to post by tothetenthpower


I agree with your original post.

As a straight male, I have never been mistreated or infringed upon by homosexuals.

I think that there should not be gay marriage. But guess what, I don't think there should be straight marriage either. Not that is recognized by the state at least.

I think that marriage should be between youm your significant other, and whomever else you want to know about it. There should be no penalties, licenses, or benefits associated with marriage.

Yes, it is another silly issue drummed up by TPTB to keep us fighting with each other.

People who bicker about the homosexual agenda are wasting their time and energy, just like those who bicker endlessly about republicans and democrats, right vs. left, racial differences ect. It's all about keeping us divided.

PERIOD!