The Gay Agenda -- You Can't Be Serious?

Originally posted by Retrovertigo
The zealots have obviously had their Weeties early this morning by the looks of things.

Just goes to show that many people who claim to have strong religious beliefs are the biggest hypocrites of all. To my knowledge, the majority of religions teach tolerance and love for your fellow man regardless.

I don't know how some of the zealots who have posted on this thread can reconcile their religious beliefs with what they've posted.

And dont go quoting the Old Testament on me. That book is the biggest load of crap ever written. From a Christian POV, anything written pre Jesus is irrelevant.

What is intolerant about the belief that homosexuality is a sin and that the Bible says that it is an abomination to God (Old Testament and New)? How does that make a person not tolerate homosexuals?

To tolerate something means to have to allow something that you are personally opposed to. So how would a person believing homosexuality is a sin cause homosexuals to stop wanting to be homosexuals ?





[edit on 25-2-2010 by Fromabove]

Originally posted by russ212
You do not see nudist walking around the street very often, not because it is illegal, but because the people around them put pressure on them not to do so.

But you're talking about social norms and practices and mandates in place to uphold them versus a person's sexual preference.

Someone walking nude in the street is a very visual, very explicit form of expression.

This is the way in which it is underming society. People are seem to be feeling that whatever they want to do is okay. Hell, if I wanna walk around the streets naked I should be able too, it don't effect you. If you don't like it don't look. I don't know many people that would agree with that for the simple reason that school busses drive down the street and the children may see.

I feel homosexuality is the same. Children should be protected from these people.

Say what? A gay individual walking down the street, fully clothed undermines society how? Have they walked up to a child and "exposed" themselves? Have they told children to try homosexuality? Have they in any way infringed upon the rights or freedoms of someone else? No.

So how does this threaten children? Saying children need protecting suggests you actually think being around gay people will somehow influence you into being gay. That sort of suggests you're worried about that.

And from my experience, anyone who's genuinely upset with gay people and homosexuality are they themselves questioning their own internal struggles with sexuality. [shrug] There's no other logical reason for it. "Gayness" isn't contagious!

Originally posted by leo123

Originally posted by tothetenthpower
I'm a gay male, married, have children.

Now how screwed up and incredibly selfish is that.

Quite clearly you couldn't give a rats ass about by being gay and having a wife and children. You had no business getting married or having children in the first place knowing that as they all will clearly and unfortunately carry the burden of your unfortunate decision to include them in their lives.

Shame on you - I hope you rot in hell for the pain you clearly will bring upon your wife and children.

You are a very selfish soul.

Again, I hope you rot in hell for what you have done to those close to you.

[edit on 25-2-2010 by leo123]

This so called burden you talk about only exists on the minds of those who seek to impose it, not in the minds of those who don't have a problem.

So whether or not his children are burdened by society for having homosexual parents is a choice up to society itself.

My honest heart felt question to you is, how do you feel when you make judgement as what you have just done in your post? and why do you seek to feel that way?

-rrr

Thank you for this post.

This thread will bring out the far right conservatives who think homosexuality was created by the devil to destroy humanity...

but who takes them seriously anyway?

S&F

reply to post by tothetenthpower


WHY WOULD THE OP, who started a very thoughtful and well-written thread, by 'dinged' with an OFF-TOPIC admonition????

I ask, in all earnestness, that the moderators not react, emotionally and knee-jerkingly, if THIS is what's happening.....please!!!

reply to post by tothetenthpower


As a fellow Homosexual I must applaud you on a well thought out post. The word "Agenda" is often throw around and its meant to scare people

"OMG, Those Gay people, they have an AGENDA!"-que scarey music.

Being Gay is kind of like living in an alternate Universe. Sort of like Lost I guess. In this alternate Universe all messages tell you to get married and have children but then in a twist of fate right out of a B movie, biology kicks up its high heels and makes you attracted to the same sex.

"Gosh darn it what do you mean I can't marry my best friend!"

So here I am at 45, been with my patner for over 10 years, we don't talk about marriage, whats the point? if our state allows it some day I will probably address the subject but not till then.

In the meantime I will watch Ru Paul's drag race, laugh and live my life as I always have but know this too, I do have an agenda, I just want to live life like everyone else.

Why the hell is this post about someone's sexual orientation on a conspiracy website in the first place???

To the OP - I really don't care if you're gay, straight, red, blue, if you like animals, if you like cardboard, whatever.

Why you feel the need to share it with the rest of us is what I don't understand. There are gay & lesbian boards out there that you can put this sh** on.

Originally posted by leo123

Originally posted by tothetenthpower
I'm a gay male, married, have children.

Now how screwed up and incredibly selfish is that.

Quite clearly you couldn't give a rats ass about by being gay and having a wife and children. You had no business getting married or having children in the first place knowing that as they all will clearly and unfortunately carry the burden of your unfortunate decision to include them in their lives.

Shame on you - I hope you rot in hell for the pain you clearly will bring upon your wife and children.

You are a very selfish soul.

Again, I hope you rot in hell for what you have done to those close to you.

[edit on 25-2-2010 by leo123]

Wow, angry much?

I am married to a man sparky, my children were adopted and conceived through a serogate, no wife here.

So excuse me if I don't "rot in hell" for the pain I've caused people, since I haven't.

Please take your bigotry and misunderstanding somewhere else. No need to attack something you don't understand...

~Keeper

Originally posted by Wyn Hawks
...have you ever noticed that sexually repressed people have the tendency to be overly-fascinated with other people's sex lives?...

...its like starving people are fascinated with people who have food - but - its not really the people that attracts them, its the food...

Homophobia is a result of repressed homosexual urges

The authors investigated the role of homosexual arousal in exclusively heterosexual men who admitted negative affect toward homosexual individuals. Participants consisted of a group of homophobic men (n = 35) and a group of nonhomophobic men (n = 29); they were assigned to groups on the basis of their scores on the Index of Homophobia (W. W. Hudson & W. A. Ricketts, 1980). The men were exposed to sexually explicit erotic stimuli consisting of heterosexual, male homosexual, and lesbian videotapes, and changes in penile circumference were monitored. They also completed an Aggression Questionnaire (A. H. Buss & M. Perry, 1992 ). Both groups exhibited increases in penile circumference to the heterosexual and female homosexual videos. Only the homophobic men showed an increase in penile erection to male homosexual stimuli. The groups did not differ in aggression. Homophobia is apparently associated with homosexual arousal that the homophobic individual is either unaware of or denies.

My personal belief is that homosexuals are young souls who are still getting the hang of reincarnating as alternate sexes. Perhaps the first few times a woman tries to reincarnate as a man the body changes, but the subconscious portion does not.

[edit on 25-2-2010 by wanderingwaldo]

reply to post by tothetenthpower


I gave you a star a flag on this one.
The topic is somewhat tangential, or post I should say, but it is one that absolutely needs addressing; however...

I do want to address the issue of this "supposed homosexual agenda", but first I would like to address the question at hand.

How has homosexuality affected my life?

Well....

Since an avatar is used and no one on this board really knows my actual identity, then I will be a bit more personal with my information and answer. What I type might be unsettling to some, so I warn you now to turn away if talk of molestation is bothersome.

time.......

to.....

make....

a choice?

Okay... So, I am not anti-homosexual in any way. I am a heterosexual male. I am very confident of that issue.
I have kissed two guys before when I was blown out on ecstasy and '___' and it felt really... umm.... not good, at all.
Nothing proceeded beyond that point, and I was not sexually molested by any man as a very young child, but it was a woman more on that in a second.
I have never had any intimate relations with a man before, because I truly do not find them appealing.

With that being said, I understand when someone who is an honest to god wired homosexual tells me how it felt, to them, to be physically intimate with a woman.
They all, without a doubt, said to the me that something about it just felt so, so wrong to them.

I do not really think that someone is straight up wired genetically to be this archetypal uber-queen when they pop out of the womb (I live in Midtown Atlanta btw... for all the queens out there); however, I would not be surprised that if somehow, through genetic drift, some type of predisposition toward homosexuality has promulgated.
That would be most especially true if, as nearly all geneticists have pretty much agreed upon, most traits are manifest as a combination of the genes found in our DNA code rather than one single gene, therefore, certain observable traits serve as markers for the appearance other observable traits. ( I would like to say here that between nature and nurture I am a TOTAL and complete nurture guy. More on that in the conspiracy agenda in a second)

If having a genetic predisposition toward homosexuality has promulgated through the generations, then it must be attached to some other type of very dominant marker in both males and females that either made them too promising to pass up on mating (most likely females), or they were in a situation to where they were, more or less, forced to procreate (most likely males).

It is not at all surprising then to see a preponderance of politicians, or really any other men of power, who come from wealthy families, and then engage in homosexuality.
From my own personal observations, it could have been a mutation that was first manifest in a family of wealth and power. That could explain why it has been passed through the generations.

Homosexual men love to exude both of these characteristics, but not in an obnoxious "I just got paid kind of way". Quite the opposite.
They appear as if they are born into embracing a refined taste concerning the visual aesthetic and lifestyle.

It is as if they are born a prince.

Now with that said.....

I would like to say that child molesters are not heterosexual nor homosexual.
These sickos are child molesters and that is all that they want.
This is where I will begin to change the story for two reasons:

1) I am studying to be a Clinical Psychologist.
2) I was a victim of a pedophile as a 6 year old boy.

My attacker was, ironically enough, a 15 year old girl. She was my next door neighbor and babysitter.
She was a cute young 15 year old girl, and, unfortunately, right now some sicko out there is thinking, "damn, what are you complaining about?"

And therein lies the problem.

What she did to me has screwed up my life so badly that I spent 15 years abusing myself in order to mask the pain of what was done to me.
I am not the same person.
I will no longer be the same person.
My innocence was stolen from me as a child, and I will never be able to get that back.

The situation made me hyper-sexual as a child.
I repressed the memory until my early 20's, but, in retrospect and through therapy, I see how much and to what degree that stupid bi*ch affected my life, and EVERY SINGLE one of my interpersonal relationships. (and she still does and probably forever will, and that is why these freaks do it. THE POWER.)

My therapist told me that the most damaging type of sex crime is that of a woman on a young boy, and the reason is because of the way society treats these guys.... me.

I say all of this to let readers know that any consenting homosexual is the same as any consenting heterosexual. They are normal people with normal lives.
Pedophiles are pedophiles. Whether they engage in heterosexuality or homosexuality or both, they are pedophiles. They are sickos who happen to practice something that any one us non-sickos practice, homosexuality or heterosexuality.

Now.... For the conspiracy. You bet your bottom dollar that, either by hook or crook, a situation has evolved in this country (USA), in that men are continually emasculated, figuratively speaking. The water is filled with female hormones from the birth control pills. The plastics that we drink out of leach Bisphenol A, which has supporting data showing that it affects the level of male hormones.

The mass media propaganda matrix continually feminizes the male image.

The family unit is being systematically destroyed, and having feminized males engaging in homosexual acts due to environmental exposure alone is a sure way to subordinate a certain segment of the population that would normally be fighting back
.
Writers, artists, and musicians, the ones who would normally be out there in the face of America standing up for what we have nearly lost.
OUR F'N COUNTRY.

But be clear that this has nothing to do with being gay.

Correlation is not causation.

Always Remember That One Thing. ALWAYS.

Oh...
And there is most definitely a conspiracy of freaks who practice heterosexuality, homosexuality, and pedophilia.
Take a Look.

Google Video Link

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[edit on 25-2-2010 by Josephus23]

reply to post by tothetenthpower


Well, I made it through page 2 when my stomach started to feel queasy, so I'll not read any more.

Great thread, S&F!

I am straight and I gotta say, I feel VERY strongly about equal rights for us all. Even though I'm not religious, I love the bumper sticker: God Bless us all. No Exceptions.

If there is a "Gay Agenda", it's the same thing as the "Straight Agenda" and that is to live in a society where we can freely express who we are without fear, to marry who we choose to marry, to have a family if we want, to have a job and be successful and live a life that we choose to live, without fear of being attacked for who we are. To enjoy equal treatment under the law and to pursue happiness in our own way.

So I'm ALL FOR this so-called "Gay Agenda"! It is the same as MY Agenda!

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

~Declaration of Independence

In my opinion, people who have an issue with homosexuality and claim that there is an agenda to "redefine marriage" (whatever that means - I define my own marriage, thank you very much) and get "special rights" and all that rot - they just have too much time on their hands and much hatred in their hearts. Because those words and thoughts can ONLY come from hatred and fear. I feel sorry for them.

Gay people are going to be all right. We are in a time of great change for equal rights. There are enough people in this world who are accepting of gay people that the ones who are so filled with fear and hatred are going to eventually become a very small minority and they won't matter at all any more, politically. The truth is, I feel sorry for them. Gay people's quest for equal rights is on the way up! That's great. For the haters, sadly, they have no where to go but down...

I remember a time in grade school running around the playground thinking girls had the cooties and were yucky. If the Homos had their way back then I would have been told in class that maybe I was gay and its OK.... NOT! Keep your agenda out of the schools!

The link below is a great way to make peolpe reject your agenda. Bad sales pitch, like a used car salesman. Fire your PR director.
www.foxnews.com...

I think that is their ultimate goal, to convince everyone at a very early age that its ok to be gay even though they have never had a sexual thought in their lives. Its not happening now but if the gay community had the opportunity to do this they would.

Gay is nothing more than a fetish. Some people have foot fetishes, should we protect them also and teach our children about that too? Take your agenda and get back in the closet where it belongs because no one realy cares. I dont see straight folks pushing an agenda on gays. Shut up and keep your fetish out of the schools. No one is saying you cant be gay, but we sure as hell dont want to hear about it either if you are.

And then there are the guys that act more feminine than any woman has ever been. Disgusting and offensive to most people. If you were born with a weiner you are a man even if you are gay. Act like a man damn it! Kids see things and it effects the future. Is that the future we want? Limp wristed feminine men walking around in makup and womens clothing, what a bold vision for the future. (facepalm)

Then there is the whole repealing the whole dont ask dont tell thing in the military. The military is no place for social engineering experiments. The military is for killing and destroying things and protecting our country and freedom. How will this make our military better? Seriously give me one reason why we will have a better military by allowing gays to act all faggy out in the open because that is what its all obout right? You can be gay in the military, just keep it in the closet. Weather you are gay or not you will still be court martialed for having sex with another soldier. So repealing DADT will only result in allowing people like Miss J to join up. lol

And finally I think I will let my good friend Bob put it into perspective for you.

www.youtube.com...

Originally posted by tothetenthpower

Originally posted by leo123

Originally posted by tothetenthpower
I'm a gay male, married, have children.

Now how screwed up and incredibly selfish is that.

Quite clearly you couldn't give a rats ass about by being gay and having a wife and children. You had no business getting married or having children in the first place knowing that as they all will clearly and unfortunately carry the burden of your unfortunate decision to include them in their lives.

Shame on you - I hope you rot in hell for the pain you clearly will bring upon your wife and children.

You are a very selfish soul.

Again, I hope you rot in hell for what you have done to those close to you.

[edit on 25-2-2010 by leo123]

Wow, angry much?

I am married to a man sparky, my children were adopted and conceived through a serogate, no wife here.

So excuse me if I don't "rot in hell" for the pain I've caused people, since I haven't.

Please take your bigotry and misunderstanding somewhere else. No need to attack something you don't understand...

~Keeper

He's right about one thing though. You can't deny that those kids will be the target of ridicule in school and maybe out of school for having two gay fathers and no mother. I suppose it's collateral damage of the lifestyle, though.

the gays are currently working against us with the assistance of big brother. they plan on hoarding all the sweaters and man purses. they must be stopped at any cost.

Originally posted by Bigwhammy
The Gay agenda to redefine marriage and lobby the government to reward a perversion with tax incentives. The Gay agenda is to take a sexual attraction disorder and pretend it's normal behavior. The agenda is to manipulate the culture to believe this disorder should be accepted and promoted.... it's not about tolerance. After all you don't tolerate something you approve of. I hate no one, but its abhorrent behavior. There's an agenda and its working, this thread is evidence. It's a symptom of a nation in decline.

Like most besetting sins, only a spiritual solution will work. Repent and turn to Christ. He can and does heal homosexuals. Pick up your cross and follow him.

Flame away...

Very good response. It is crystal clear that there is indeed a gay agenda, and that being to change the minds of the overwhelming majority that homosexuality is acceptable behavior. That it is just an 'alternate' sexual lifestyle.
Homosexuality/bi-sexuality/promiscuity can also be called hyper-sexuality....which is NOT a healthy lifestyle. Anyone here with no bias will see that the chances of STD's while choosing to act upon your hyper-sexuality is considerably higher than a normal hetereosexual.
The homosexual agenda is indeed real and it is just another sign of a nation's moral decay. Accepting hyper-sexuality as normal is a slippery slope, as it is a slope that leads to horrible sexual 'preferences' in the end.
It so easy and clear to see that the traditional, monogamous married lifestyle is by far the most nurturing, healthy, and loving choice for children....because after all, it is the one that nature, or God chose as the original system.

LGBTG all live in a sexual 'ether' that permeates their very existence to their very core....which in turn shapes everything about them.

reply to post by sos37


You see what people don't understand is that my children, one of which is in university, were taught to NOT care what others decided should be "normal" and to be happy with what they have.

They had some issues when they were younger, but were smart enough to shrug it off, they knew that those people just did not understand the situation they were in.

Any of those kids who eventually hung out with my kids and those kids came over, quickly changed their minds when they entered out house hold and realized how loving and nice it actually was.

~Keeper

reply to post by EndOfTheWorld7


LOOOOOL, yeah, Mrs Doubtfire pushing the "gay agenda"...what a hilarious youtube video.

Also, your "you have to be gay to make big $$$" is a load of bull#. Brad Pitt, not gay, Tom Cruise, not gay, Jon Travolta, not gay, Will Smith, not gay, Jay-Z, not gay, Johnny Depp, not gay, Eddie Murphy, not gay, Leo DiCaprio, not gay, Bruce Willis (lol), not gay, Ben Stiller, not gay...and the list goes on. Those are the top male actors/musicians!!

And about the whole the Illuminati are gay...maybe, but I also heard they drink the blood of babies, and some of them have bat wings!

Seriously, your posts only shows 2 things: your taking conspiracy theories too far, and you are a biggot.

being female, i find the idea of fewer men available for the ladies, rather scary, although i'm not shopping for a man, already married. all those single ladies out there have to compete with other men for the same guys (which if they think about it, the gay guy wouldn't be available anyway, so really there's no competition. it's a ratio chart thing. )

maybe it's like a biological aversion for some folks. i know some hetero men dislike it because they find the idea truly offensive. others find it offensive when they are actually attracted to it, which makes it even more offensive because it's a psychological problem they aren't addressing.

but hetero females, that's a different story entirely. a lot of hetero females want to fix gay men lol and the ones that aren't attracted to gay men for the whole fix it thing, are usually attracted to them as comrades, since they have more in common at some level than hetero males do with women. and in other cases, there are some seriously attractive men who are gay, which is a natural attractant and a disappointment when they find out the guy is gay.

being gay kinda throws the applecart off balance, at a social level. there are so many variables already inherent in human social interactions and male homosexuality adds just another layer of complexity to it. same goes for lesbianism.

agenda? i don't think it's a conscious agenda. i think it's beyond the capacity for us humans to comprehend. i put it more in the arena of a natural population control mechanism, bred into the population surreptiously and on purpose. there's two ways a society can go when there are too many people: 1) kill off the baby makers (the females) or 2) curtail procreation. i'm thinking the more civilized the society, the more likely the second option will be chosen.





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reply to post by tothetenthpower

I am writing because of my experiences with homosexuals. Although I have met many nice, quiet, and courteous gays, I have met more of the opposite. When I was in Alabama I worked for who I thought was a group of nice homosexual businesmen, but boy was I tricked. Come to find out they were pimping out little boys and paying them with drugs and money to do sexual favors with him, judges, doctors, and even preachers. WOW if I was to post on these people it would be a long one. These people started a bad feeling toward gays for me, but what topped it off was the encounters I had at a gay club I ended up at one night. I showed up with a friend who was straight and new someone at the club, when we arrived I grabbed a drink and ran toward the corner with football on the TV and I tried to assure myself that no one would mess with me. I tried to think of gay people such as the dog whisperer Caesar Mulan and Nate from Opra but once again I was fooled. This married couple stroked my hair and said they were going to take me home and almost broke up because one husband of a man liked me. Meth in the bathrooms. Man they were paying straight men big bucks and giving them meth to have sex and play playstation with them, and this was in Indiana. So I guess gays in San Francisco are better than the 2 underground gay pride movements in Alabama and Indiana, I still do not hate gays but do dislike the underground wierd bath house and sex ring animalistic sex rave about gays but I love Ellen