Aliens wrote the Quran? ... Proof it wasn't written by Humans..

The "WE" that is referred to in the verses are in reference to the many attributes of Allah. There are 99 attributes of Allah.

reply to post by roguetazz


"The "WE" that is referred to in the verses are in reference to the many attributes of Allah. There are 99 attributes of Allah."

Any one entity can numerous attributes the is the plural form representing more than one entity whoever they claim to be.

Originally posted by jbmitch
reply to post by roguetazz

 

"The "WE" that is referred to in the verses are in reference to the many attributes of Allah. There are 99 attributes of Allah."

Any one entity can numerous attributes the is the plural form representing more than one entity whoever they claim to be.

Which shows you have no knowledge of semitic languages whatsoever and never heard of the Royal We which also the queen of england uses - she must be "a lot of them" ...

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In the Quran, it is told that the heavens are created in seven layers. The term “seven heavens” is used seven times in the Quran.

2. The Cow, 29
17. The Children of Israel, 44
23. The Believers, 86
41. Elucidated, 12
65. Divorce, 12
67. The Kingdom, 3
71. Noah, 15

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The word “shecer” which means “tree” and all of its derivatives are mentioned 26 times in the Quran. The word “nebat” which means “plant” and all of its derivatives are also used 26 times. Below are two verses as example for these words;

60- … whereby We produce gardens full of beauty, you could not possibly manufacture its trees…
27. The Ant, 60

99- He sends down water from the sky, to produce with it all kinds of plants…
6. The Cattle, 99

The word Number of occurrence
Tree 26
Plant 26

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The word Number of occurrence
Hot 4
Cold 4

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The word Number of occurrence
Act 108
Response 108

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The word Number of occurrence
Sun 33
A light 33

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The word Number of occurrence
Justice 15
Injustice 15
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I have a question that I've been wondering about and can't find an answer to that I haven't been brave enough to ask here until now so here goes. Were there other people on other continents like the Americas, Australia, the Far East, and basically every where else in the world as well as those people in the Middle East during Biblical times? Where did the native, indigenous people of the world come from? Why did the Christians need to leave their territories and go up into England and Ireland and other faraway places in order to find people to convert to Christianity? Wouldn't the entire world's population have been local? Where did the Native Americans come from, and why didn't they already know about Christianity, Judaism, or Islam before the Europeans arrived? What about the aborigines? Sorry for the stupid question. I just can't wrap my mind around it. I ask this question because the major religions in the Middle East only talk about the people in their local surrounding areas. What about all the other people in other parts of the globe who have long histories as well as mummified remains that are thousands of years old. I can't make the puzzle fit.


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reply to post by seattletruth


Actually, Satan/Iblees/Azazil was NOT an Angel. He was/is a Djinn, but he was that "calm" that ALLAH gave him the rights that usually only the Angel Ridwan had - to guard the gates of Paradise.

More evidence? Angels have no free will and thus he (Satan) could not have refused to follow the command of God if he truly was an Angel. He clearly is from the Djinn.

But yeah, thanks for your efforts on creating this topic! There are indeed more signs, which you may watch here:

www.youtube.com...



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Originally posted by firsttimecaller

If I have poo on my hands, I get sick!
If I have poo on my bum, i itches real bad!
And it goes double for Haditha`s cooter, especially when she`s raggin!
And for some weird reason, when Haditha and I got it on, her Husband Ackbar freaked out and totally punched in in my nose, which, now that I`ve had a chance to think about it while wasing the blood off my face, I should wash nearly as much as my bum! @ss, Face, Hands! Mabey not in that order though....

Thank you!

The earth is flat, and anyone who disputes this claim is an atheist who deserves to be punished. [Fatwa, 1993]


Sheik Abdel-Aziz Ibn Baaz
(The Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia, 1993-1999)

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"The strange phenomenon however is that only after science makes a discovery, Muslims suddenly find out that Muhammad mentions that knowledge in the Qur'an. For over a thousand years the Qur'an supposedly had scientific information about the big bang, embryology, dying stars and mountain formation but no Muslim has ever been able to understand them until Western scientists made the discoveries without even the help of any prophet of God."

reply to post by gazerstar


well there is an answer in the Quran for this question:

[15][10] Indeed, We sent Messengers before you (O Muhammad (peace be upon him)) amongst the sects (communities) of old.

another:

[30][47] And indeed We did send Messengers before you (O Muhammad (peace be upon him)) to their own peoples. They came to them with clear proofs, then, We took vengeance on those who committed crimes (disbelief, setting partners in worship with Allâh, sins); and (as for) the believers, it was incumbent upon Us to help (them).

another one:

[40][78] And, indeed We have sent Messengers before you (O Muhammad (peace be upon him)) of some of them We have related to you their story. And of some We have not related to you their story, and it was not given to any Messenger that he should bring a sign except by the Leave of Allâh. But, when comes the Commandment of Allâh, the matter will be decided with truth, and the followers of falsehood will then be lost.

one more:

[43][6] And how many a Prophet have We sent amongst the men of old.


and lots of them in the quran

Hi! I will try to post something, and try not to step on anyone's feelings.
In my opinion there is devine creator, God, and they/he/she/ the devine
created many varieties of humans. We, the varieties, each have a way of expressing our love, gratitude and worship that fulfills our individual or group needs. This brings stability and happiness to society. Tolerance and acceptance of each other's expressive style is important, no one is right or wrong in their understanding or expression of the greater good. It is similar to interpreting art. This non-tolerant attitude is what I would call pure evil, all these wars over religion are unkind and evil, not serving for the greater good.
Aliens? Who knows how they would fit into this, they probably have their
own interpretation of the devine and have their own bible and their own society rules. Everyone is so different, how could anyone expect everyone
to do the same? Everyone has their own words, languages, foods, and customs, history of man or creation, it would be very wise to love and appreciate each other for our differences... People who resort to violence are educationally and emotionally unevolved and need to learn to verbally express ther feelings an appropriate manner.

To anti-muslims on this thread ;


To believe that the aliens wrote the Quran , would immediately disqualify a muslim from being a muslim .








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Yet again people prove that they have not fully read his posts.

He said the following:

After looking at all these proofs it was pretty easy for me to conclude that the Quran was NOT written by humans. Because I was atheist, my initial reaction was that the Quran was written by Aliens. After reading it, I believe it was written by God.. But that's an act of faith on my part.

Now you tell me where he says he still is an atheist or that he still believes that it had been written by Aliens.

Cheers, eh?

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Originally posted by Gentill Abdulla
reply to post by Cobra5000

 

If you had studied the Quran you would have known that it acknowledges prophets from the religions you speak of. It also says that there were 25 prophets and that includes Jesus. It also says that each of these prophets were approximately 600 years apart which fits the time frame of Muhammed. AND it also says that Muhammed was the LAST prophet of Allah. There will be no more prophets.That is just some basic information.

Yes I do know that basic information but that does not negate the facts I mentioned in my post. Just because Islam acknowledges prophets from other religions doesn't make it any more accurate than those religions. I can pull out a bunch of facts that will "prove" Christianity is the only right religion (and if aliens are all the OP needs, then look no further than Ezekiel). I'd say almost every religion could prove somehow that it is the only path. I'm nervous for the OP because I fear he/she will try to seek God through the material (all those scientific facts must make it true!) when God is not a conglomeration of scientific facts nor is God in any one religion. God is all around us in everything in every moment and there are many paths. Faith and religion are two entirely different things that atheists sometimes confuse. Islam is a religion that has human authors, as is Christianity and Judaism. Faith moves beyond fallible text. God is not an alien, God breathes life into aliens.

For several years I dated a Sufi (I am what you would call a Christian Mystic) and I learned quite a bit about Islam. I lived in a Persian neighborhood, studied Farsi (which uses the Arabic alphabet), spent holidays with his family and almost married the man because he wanted us to visit Iran together (it's very hard to get into that country otherwise). Of course that doesn't make me an expert but I'd say I had a pretty good crash course into a culture that few Christian Americans get to experience.

By the way, Jesus is not a prophet. That would be like saying Siddhartha is just the guy that delivers your pizza.

everything in the universe can be defined with math. it's the language of creation, i do believe. so it makes perfect sense that anything found within creation, can be furthered analyzed, mathematically, and its mathematical components revealed. so far be it from me to criticize the mathematical
components of quran. it's in creation, it's gonna have a mathematical description. people who say no, just haven't realized how truly all encompassing, math really is.

Originally posted by masonicon
the Quran is wrote by Ethereal angels instead Flesh and blood Aliens

Feel free to provide evidence supporting your claim

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the math pertaining to OP is silly...you can take any book with a good amount of pages/ words and prove similar if not exact coincidences in the numbers and math used. its pretty similar to how "the bible code" was "created".

as far as the quotes from the Quran, the majority of them are up to the readers interpretation, although i do find some of the text pretty interesting when it comes to science.

fun fact:
in 1914 - 27.7% of scientists at the National Academy of Sciences believed in a "god"; 1933 - cut in half to 15%; 1998 - cut in half again to 7%...i wonder what the numbers are today?

the more we learn, the less we are enticed to "just believe" ie faith.

All of what you speak of is possible. But none of what you say will hold up a court of law, therefore it lacks proof.

Its fun to postulate these things, but, you probably shouldn't say "Proof it wasn't written by Humans."

As far as the bible code...If I were to type in these random numbers:

1039874651-9384390478912364897312984023984-138463249087328384-9023849023848239084237-8478965438098543895094385904378957-94387989383444

I can assert to you that someone, maybe 10,000 years in the future could find meaning in them that I had no idea was there. Hell, they may actually PROVE that it holds the key to our genetics. The reality is this though. I randomly typed in a bunch of numbers to make a point about this thread.

Now...I'm not saying that the bible code isn't accurate, and I'm not saying that it wasn't made for a reason. However, if it was created by aliens, then, its safe to say that the aliens may be the "only one's" who will ever understand it.

Originally posted by kenochs
I mean how can you call yourself an atheist if you don't believe in God but do believe in all powerful aliens that created the universe... what's the difference?

Huh? Call me dumb, but are you implying that Gods are aliens? Or aliens are Gods? If I don't believe in aliens, that makes me an atheist?

Fine logic! And oh yes, did God make the Universe or did the aliens? I don't believe in God or aliens. Wow! A double whammy if ever there was one!!

And those aliens suddenly decided one fine day to get things movin'. So they said in unison, "Let there be light". Then attaching a pretty long fuse to that fire cracker, they retreated into the void. Then there was that god-almighty big bang and "there was light"! Phew! Ah yes! Aliens did create the universe after all!

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Originally posted by EvolvedMinistry
All of what you speak of is possible. But none of what you say will hold up a court of law, therefore it lacks proof.

can you please edit the length of the number? it's causing the page to scroll sideways out of my browser window.

and there's a possibility, that number does mean something, somewhere.
nothing really goes to waste, mathematically speaking