DNA evidence of ET? part 2

Originally posted by AnthraAndromda

Originally posted by simranjits

You have 13 markers matching for your 14 markers. Thats means when you key in 16, the 13 markers remains the same. Theres no requirement that you need to match exactly. But if you match on the 13 markers thats a good match already. That means YOU share a common ancestor with this individual about 20 odd generations ago. You have thousands of matches at 12 markers and below , which is very good and normal for r1b. To give you context , i only have 1 12 marker match, and i'm not alien.

So how can you be ET when you share common ancestors with humans. This alone says you don't have ET DNA!.

I am a regular on DNA forums , you might want to pose your questions there.
You may have other issues but you have definately human dna.

I'm not sure what criteria you used to get those results, but they are vastly different than the results I obtained.

For instance, when I did a search I got NO matches, even loose ones, until I reduced the number of markers to 10, and then I got one, and even that required stretching the rules of biological mutation a fair bit. And of the matches at 8 markers there were multiple haplotypes (R1b, A, and others). Further, as I have already said, reducing the size of the data set virtually guaranties more matches, none of which may be relevant.

So far this exercise in DNA has not provided enough data to determine IF I am a Terrestrial Human, or simply "Human like".

Your analysis of the data would seem to jump to conclusions that aren't supported by biological science.

While your analysis may be worth considering, I must say that in 40+ years as a software engineer and 15 or so specifically in data analysis, it is my opinion that your conclusions are incorrect. But, we shall see when there is more data.

Etharzi od Oma

It's really very simple , do a snp test for r1b , str markers don't confirm haplogroup. It is only a prediction. Even On 16 markers it is a prediction. Even with more markers , the only way to confirm is to test the snps responsible for r1b. I'm not sure what the name of the mutation/snp that causes r1b. You can check up the r1b wikipedia.

If you were a bit interested in dna testing , you would know this. All you got was a 16 marker test and some codis results and you think you're an alien?

So wake up and get a proper test, i can advise you properly, if you're interested. Like i said even a 10 marker match means you and that individual have a common ancestor!

If you were ET, the testing company would have got all excited like they discovered the new hominid species recently in siberia.

Apart from Lloyd Pye, there is also fascinating artistic evidence from the Middle Ages that Jesus was actually an ET genetic experiment.

Originally posted by simranjits

It's really very simple , do a snp test for r1b , str markers don't confirm haplogroup. It is only a prediction. Even On 16 markers it is a prediction. Even with more markers , the only way to confirm is to test the snps responsible for r1b. I'm not sure what the name of the mutation/snp that causes r1b. You can check up the r1b wikipedia.

If you were a bit interested in dna testing , you would know this. All you got was a 16 marker test and some codis results and you think you're an alien?

EDIT to add: From my research it appears that most of the SNiP test is more of a marketing ploy to make more money, and while it may add more resolution, it would still have no effect on the base line haplogroup (e.g. if One is known to be group R1, all SNiP testing will show is sub-group).

So wake up and get a proper test, i can advise you properly, if you're interested. Like i said even a 10 marker match means you and that individual have a common ancestor!

Okay, first; I have a bit more than just DNA that makes me "think" I'm ET. There was the experience of standing on the deck of a starship and having my mother tell me that I'm not from Earth. That sort of event has a lasting effect. I've also been told, again by mother, that I do not have heman DNA. My efforts here are to provide some evidence using Terrestrial technology to show that I'm ET, in the hopes of assisting disclosure.

The testing I've done thus far is what I can afford, and along with other evidence has yielded a statistical probability that looks very good. Though it seems that most don't want to see what should be obvious.

If you were ET, the testing company would have got all excited like they discovered the new hominid species recently in siberia.

Really? They used Human primers to do the testing, in doing so they eliminated most non-human elements from the results.

Before I would even consider your "assistance" you would have to provide some credentials ... a PHD in Biology, and, several years in DNA research would help.

Etharzi od Oma.

[edit on 6-4-2010 by AnthraAndromda]

Originally posted by jeanvaljean
reply to post by AnthraAndromda

 

And, if she gave birth to an infant boy, and was given an infant boy, she may not know that a switch was made. I never did ask her what she knew about me, though I have suspected she had some idea that I wasn't her's. This unfortunately is a question that can not be asked.

So you are a changeling*. I understand that you can't ask your earth mother anymore, but what would stop you from asking D'arna-Shat what happened to your earth mother's real baby?

*I'm not saying your parents were trolls, only that an infant of one species was switched with that of another.

My understanding is that the child didn't survive. I don't know any details, and I'm not sure I want to. What I do know is that my Earth mother had issues birthing children, she had several that were either born dead or died shortly after birth. I was one that "survived".

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Fair enough. I won't press you on this matter any further as it is a potentially painful line of questioning and very personal. Thanks for answering my questions.

Originally posted by DrJay1975
Ok I will U2U the address. Just for reference Ramen is about 8 years old when being used for species ID.

There is about a week left till my suggested date arrives, and I've heard nothing.

Using U2U is fine, but, I will need confirmation of the date, a location, and the name of a person to speak with before I will burn the time and gas.

Thanks...

Folks, if any of you are interested in this wee test, I strongly suggest you take the time to research it for yourselves.

Hello, Andromda; you don't mind if I ask you some questions, now do you?

Also, I'm not sure if one of these questions I'm about to ask you are questions that you've already answered; I'm apologizing on advance If they are.

1.) How big are starships? You told me that your mom has seven of them in Dallas?

2.) If the world does end in the next few years, would your kind be able to save us (taking us to another planet, and have humans live there from now on?)

3.) If you still have any contacts with aliens in any way, can you tell them to come to my house? I would love to talk to them.

Anthra I'm back from my trip. The forensics pro asked for the data you've obtained so far prior to conducting the test. I've submitted what you've given us here and your website.

He suggests the test is a waste of my time and his time. There is nothing to indicate you are not human.

Originally posted by Comic
Hello, Andromda; you don't mind if I ask you some questions, now do you?

Also, I'm not sure if one of these questions I'm about to ask you are questions that you've already answered; I'm apologizing on advance If they are.

1.) How big are starships? You told me that your mom has seven of them in Dallas?

Above Dallas actualy, about 100,000km. Of the ships 4 are about 1km in length (i is 750m at its widest point, 2 are about 500m wide), the other 3 ships are about 2km in length and nearly 1km at the widest.

2.) If the world does end in the next few years, would your kind be able to save us (taking us to another planet, and have humans live there from now on?)

This is something I've discussed with mother. IF there were to be disclosure now, and a disaster could be predicted in time, then perhaps something could be arranged. Though, at present, we do not have the resources localy to do this.

3.) If you still have any contacts with aliens in any way, can you tell them to come to my house? I would love to talk to them.

Well, I am always in contact, but, they aren't given to doing things like this. I'll pass it along, but, please don't hold your breath.

Etharzi od Oma.


[edit on 11-6-2010 by AnthraAndromda]

Originally posted by DrJay1975
Anthra I'm back from my trip. The forensics pro asked for the data you've obtained so far prior to conducting the test. I've submitted what you've given us here and your website.

He suggests the test is a waste of my time and his time. There is nothing to indicate you are not human.

My research into that test indicated the same, though it would have been interesting just the same.

The nature of the data I currently have does "look" human, but, then again, it was obtained using Human Primers for the DNA extractionm so it is very likely that the results would "look" Human. However, it is the nature of the "Human" described by those results that must be taken into account, and compared with the physical me.

So far the results indicate African descent, Haplogroup "A", and no european descent. Yet I appear European (light skin, hair, blue eyes, etc.)

I've been working on a software project recently, and while I intend to build a new computer with what I'm making, it will also allow me to do some additional testing soon ... we'll see what those results tell us.

Etharzi od Oma.

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Please dont take the magic away bluebelle

I was very skeptical at first but he wouldnt do it for a laugh I dont think.

And BTW to get the results is one thing but to get them analyzed costs a lot more.

I still believe you anthra

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You could try to get somebody from your species to help you use a primer of your species maybe? If they could.

Just to throw some cool science in here, when the human genome project was completed, they came forward to say they had found (in some humans) a supercode of genetic material that was not human. Not everyone has it.
Where did it come from?
Check the material in the book of Enoch (online) and also here

www.thechronicleproject.org...

Check the scroll of adam starting on page 58 regarding the supreme one mating with the human woman. There genetic material was not species bound like ours was and their offspring began breeding with cattle horses etc. (legends of minotaurs, harpies centaurs etc anyone) This got so out of hand that God wiped out the earth before there were no clean species left and then restarted everything.

Just so you know, these are the people who discovered the Self Defining System embedded in ancient Hebrew showing that everything had been translated wrong.
Genesis moves from fairytale status to terra forming a planet by an outside race

Originally posted by AnthraAndromda

Originally posted by DrJay1975
Anthra I'm back from my trip. The forensics pro asked for the data you've obtained so far prior to conducting the test. I've submitted what you've given us here and your website.

He suggests the test is a waste of my time and his time. There is nothing to indicate you are not human.

My research into that test indicated the same, though it would have been interesting just the same.

The nature of the data I currently have does "look" human, but, then again, it was obtained using Human Primers for the DNA extractionm so it is very likely that the results would "look" Human. However, it is the nature of the "Human" described by those results that must be taken into account, and compared with the physical me.

So far the results indicate African descent, Haplogroup "A", and no european descent. Yet I appear European (light skin, hair, blue eyes, etc.)

I've been working on a software project recently, and while I intend to build a new computer with what I'm making, it will also allow me to do some additional testing soon ... we'll see what those results tell us.

Etharzi od Oma.

Hey by the way, is your race that ugly usually???

I'm not trying to say your ugly or your race is, but I'd think by now you could pretty much use technology to make everyone pretty by now, if you can use all that other stuff, I mean seriously now, with all you can do with DNA already you can already make someone look pretty, so if a species thats not human comes to use and looks terrible, what does that mean?

Are you "good looking" to your race?

have you evolved past "looking good"?

I see, I read that you had your age accelerated.

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So are you still being visited? And for how many times a month? And what evidence beside (no evidence) do you have now for to disclose to us? Not much. I see. Your avatar cries for disclosure and yet you disclose to the world nothing to study in the way of trace elements, pictures, corroborating testimony, metal bits, ray guns, etc. How about some alien DNA you got under you finger nails or off clothing you wore during abductions? Now that would help! Do they have toilets on board these craft? You get my drift?

I am skeptical because you make extraordinary claims and extraordinary claims require---

Originally posted by intrptr
reply to post by AnthraAndromda

 

So are you still being visited? And for how many times a month? And what evidence beside (no evidence) do you have now for to disclose to us? Not much. I see. Your avatar cries for disclosure and yet you disclose to the world nothing to study in the way of trace elements, pictures, corroborating testimony, metal bits, ray guns, etc. How about some alien DNA you got under you finger nails or off clothing you wore during abductions? Now that would help! Do they have toilets on board these craft? You get my drift?

I am skeptical because you make extraordinary claims and extraordinary claims require---

In the first post of this thread are two images, they contain DNA results. The first shows that the results have no match to any known T. Human DNA, the second is the actual results of my Y-DNA analysis. If yu visit the website (link below) you can also find my autosomal (codis) DNA results. I did the autosomal first, and as it should have it accurately predicted my Y-DNA, well colse anyway, as being either from India or Africa (Groups A or F). As I'm biviusly nt african-american group A seems very unlikely. Unfortunately neither is Indian (the region of India seems to Central to East Central. I haven't done mtDNA yet, but that should also be Indian (same region). My apearance is solidly English (light skin, hair, prussian Blue eyes). Actually the evidence I've presented is rather significant. The data analysis would seem to indicate that while differences may be subtle, they do exist.I wouldn't call DNA evidence "nothing"

Abductions; There was a time when they were frequent (once a week or better). In 1994 my mother arrived and took up a position some 100,000 km above where I live. From that day forward, no abductions. The implants were removed, and semi regular visits off-world have been the norm. US Governmentdes does not allow unscheduled visits, nor do they allow me to have any memory of the event and no artifacts.

Yes, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. I have given exactly that.

You need to understand that "trace elements", photos, bits of metal, etc can not be unique as all worlds contain the same chemical elements, physics, etc. So, the only differences you might see would be in secific metal alloys, and I wouldn't hold my breath on Terrestrial Science identifying them as being unusual. Photos are easily manufactured. I have the tools and skills to produce images that would be nearly impossible to "debunk", and I can make nearly anything.

Remain sketical

Reply to vkay in another thread.

I presented my evidence that you said it, you're ignoring your own words... how many times do I have to post it?How is there any other evidence than your own words to make your own words.

But then again I may just write my own computer program that comes up wth my results so I can say I'm not a girl.. It wouldn't make it so.. But again... I posted TWICE now your own words... Yours, noone elses, you keep claiming that noone has posted your own words, but we have... Now I am starting to wonder if .. n/m

When you are willing to acknowledge YOUR OWN WORDS ie: things YOU YOURSELF have written, then I will continue this, until then, it's pointless, you don't seem to grasp it at all...

I must be living in fantasy land to think that someone would actually read what's posted and acknowledge "Hey I wrote that, I didn't mean it but I wrote it"

If you are referring to the text on the "skeptic" site; What of it?

You are obviusly very far from being to comprehend any of that, that explaination would be fruitless.

And, the "number of times" yu mustprovide source aterial is once. You have yet to provide any.

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Since you are reluctant to discuss your own words, and you seem to think noone on the planet can understand what you understand, maybe you can understand this quote from an Andromedan site...

The Andromedan Council has ordered all extraterrestrial presences on the planet, in the planet, and on the moon to be completely out of our space. They want everything that's ET, benevolent or not, off the planet.

So why are you still here?

Originally posted by vkey08
reply to post by AnthraAndromda

 

Since you are reluctant to discuss your own words, and you seem to think noone on the planet can understand what you understand, maybe you can understand this quote from an Andromedan site...

So why are you still here?

In as much as my metaphysical works have nothing to do with biology, One has to wonder; "Of what value are they to your argument?" You can't "prove" anything of biology, and that IS what this is all about, is it not?

I never said no one could understand, actually there are many who do. However, I will state that it is above your current level of understanding.

There is no Andromeda Council. That is a mis-interpretation by Mr. Collier and some others, that have not, nor, indeed, know of a way to, verify their channelings.