Argentina to blockade Falkland waters in dispute over oil rights

reply to post by waynos


It is strange tho, such a different kind of debate to bomb x y and z.. or turn it into glass.. and refreshing as well...

*ducks head behind sandbags in case scatter gun goes off*

Originally posted by Fromabove
Thankyou for your asking. I am a US citizen and Irish by descent. I am a historical research annalist and have spent many hours related to the subject of the UK and most other major world powers. While I understand what some may be trying to say here that the Falkland people have chosen their own course with the UK, it is expedient for the UK to simply "give" them their independence. Sometimes I am a little peeved by some misunderstood remarks by individuals who only look at what they can see without taking history into account. And often they get upset at me for my own views and call me a troll if they start to lose the debate of discussion. Me however, will talk for as long as allowed and receive any amount of criticism so as to allow for the free speech of that individual and their personal respect to say what they wish to me. So, anyway, to answer your question, I am an Irishman living in the US.

I wasn't going to do this but I can't help myself.

An analyst from an English speaking country who can't spell it? How odd.

Still, no less odd than someone who can spend hours studying a subject and still know nothing at all about it.

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reply to post by infinite


What are the requirements for joining the commonwealth?

I thought that the country had to have had british government at some point in its history - of course another word might be "occupation" but that's really no longer an issue, and another conversation entirely...

Originally posted by tristar
reply to post by hans kammler

 

A yes i remembered being awakened to this...what a day it was...


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Me to, I was living in Brighton at the Time, Union Jack's everywhere, Hard on my eyes been a bohemian Irish Artist!

I am leaving the thread now as I have other matters to attend to like reading about other stuff, I've said my piece. However, I will tell you I am not Islamic, thought they will soon rule the UK. And if their is some bias shown here it's because the Brits made it that way by their arrogant historical and verified behavior on the world stage. I will say that they did however fight in WW2 but it was because Hitler wanted them, and the US helped save their butts. As I depart for other worthy threads, I maintain that the UK needs to unilaterally give the Falkland Islands it's independence for the sake of true peace and world harmony. I leave you into the capable hands of the Captain, who is not I. We shall see what shall unfold before us. A free Falkland Island nation, or war for oil in it's truest form. Carry on...






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reply to post by thoughtsfull


I must confess I haven't enjoyed myself on ATS as much in ages. My regular haunt, the aircraft board, is such a dull place these days

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Hey sorry if this is wrong but a while a go I heard of a treaty that said that if any country on the continent of America goes to war other countries have to support it and not the opposision

Oh dear, looks like the questions were getting too hard

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Not sure what the rules are but Rwanda (ex French Colony) has joined recently
linky


[edit on 18/2/10 by thoughtsfull]

Thankyou for your asking. I am a US citizen and Irish by descent. I am a historical research annalist and have spent many hours related to the subject of the UK and most other major world powers. While I understand what some may be trying to say here that the Falkland people have chosen their own course with the UK, it is expedient for the UK to simply "give" them their independence. Sometimes I am a little peeved by some misunderstood remarks by individuals who only look at what they can see without taking history into account. And often they get upset at me for my own views and call me a troll if they start to lose the debate of discussion. Me however, will talk for as long as allowed and receive any amount of criticism so as to allow for the free speech of that individual and their personal respect to say what they wish to me. So, anyway, to answer your question, I am an Irishman living in the US.

You are " a little peeved by some misunderstood remarks by individuals who only look at what they can see without taking history into account"

Well i am a little peeved at someone who takes one countries historical wrong doings and then uses them for xenophobic insults about its population!! Even when the examples, of wrong doings, are wrong doings that have been committed by many other nations.

You are simply anti British... You may have done a little research, and you may call yourself a "historical research annalist" but you are still biased and have a warped perception of history if you think that other nations haven’t done any wrong??

How do you think Argentina was formed??? You think no indigenous people were harmed during its creation???

You think that Argentina’s political history isn’t littered with crimes against other countries as well as its own population.

Please get some perspective to your argument if you wish to be taken seriously as a "historical research analyst"

Oh... by the way... “Annalist” is actually spelt “analyst”

Normal service resumed...

I seriously don't think this is anything more than sabre rattling on the part of argentina, and I really can't see anything coming of it, but it's interesting nonetheless, if only because of the potential implications...

Originally posted by waynos
reply to post by thoughtsfull

 

I must confess I haven't enjoyed myself on ATS as much in ages. My regular haunt, the aircraft board, is such a dull place these days

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I can't help but agree with you..
Tho someone did add a little spice.. and a good laugh..

Originally posted by budski
Normal service resumed...

I seriously don't think this is anything more than sabre rattling on the part of argentina, and I really can't see anything coming of it, but it's interesting nonetheless, if only because of the potential implications...

I agree, no more than sabre rattling, but should another war break out in the ME, I would not be so sure we would be able to fully defend the Falklands.. and would be on a back foot.. Perhaps that would be the opportune moment to invade over a straight up war with Britain.

reply to post by Misoir


Don't count on the US not supporting Britain. they did in 82 (albeit clandestinely) and they would do it again.

Originally posted by Asktheanimals
C'mon UN, if you;re worth anything broker a deal here before someone gets shot.

Are you for real? Do you actually believe the UN has any power to change the world situation? The UN is nothing more than a soapbox giant bitch session. No real enforceable decisions are ever made.

Remember what Hague called them? A Boil on the Ass of the World that needs to be lanced off!

Originally posted by Fromabove


Let us not think that Argentine has no friends in the region. Brazil, a rival of Argentina wants to have it's own nuclear arsenal and wield some regional power of it's own. They would love to see a little war with England and would even send some help to the Argentinians in order to stick it to the powers that be.

Brazil is a rival of Argentina!?that is true only if you are speaking about football
Brazil can make at least a half dozen of nuclear bombs per year, we have the technology to do that since the 90's.

en.wikipedia.org...

We would hate to see "a little war"( or a big war) in the region.
Brazil will not help Argentina in a war against UK.
We are not puppets of Cristina Kirchner or any future Argentinian government suffering from low popularity .
Chaves is dealing with serious economic troubles in Venezuela, they are having black-outs almost every day and one of the most difficult things over there is to find a simple roll of toilet paper!
And do you have an idea about the distance between Venezuela and the Falklands?


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I hope no military confrontation comes of this but lets get one thing sorted.

No matter the goings on in Iraq and Afghanistan for the British there is no doubt that Britain could hold its own against any country, bar the 3 Superpowers of the world, in a direct military 1 on 1 confrontation.

To the guy making the case that Argentina could beat Britain that is laughable. Furthermore the idea that Argentina would bomb Britain itself?! They did not spend oodles of money on the Euro-fighter just to let them sit around!

The only victory the argies can bet on is in the world cup!

Gordon isn't playing around..

Royal Navy warships were on standby on Thursday to protect commercial shipping to the Falkland Islands as Gordon Brown said Britain would take a robust stand against Argentine encroachment on the resource rich South Atlantic territory.

Gordon Brown, the prime minister, issued an explicit warning to the Argentinian government that the South Atlantic show of force – which also included a survey vessel backed up by a 1,000-strong military detachment on land – would respond to any disruption of the Falklands links to the outside world.

HMS York, a type 42-destroyer, was on a "tight leash" patrolling the seas around the islands

Daily Telegraph

It is reported the RAF will be increasing its presence on the Island too. I'd be surprised if Argentina attempt to increase the rhetoric after this show of force.

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Britain has enough plutonium reserves to make 10,000 nuclear weapons.