"America cursed by God if we reject Israel " From Rep. Bachmann (Minn)

reply to post by KrazyJethro


I don't care whatever Israel does,I will not turn against Israel.They are
God's chosen people and I will always support them.Salvation is to the
jew first,then the gentiles!
Because they are God's chosen people,God will bless those that bless
her and curse those that curse her.As for me and my family,we serve
the Lord!
The canadians and mexicans would probably have a party if something
happened to the U.S.!They would swoop down and divide the leftovers.

Originally posted by mamabeth
reply to post by RizeorDie

 

Unfortunately,satan has more power than you give him credit for.He is
the prince of this world until Jesus/Yeshua returns.

This seems to be some powerful knowledge you have here. Where did you attain this knowledge, pray tell? To me, there is no character by that name, and I give or afford this character in your mind any of my power. For your information on the satan guy.
First of all, Satan/Lucifer was a created being. He was created by God Himself. Colossians 1:16 states, “For by Him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities—all things have been created by Him and for Him.” We know from scripture that Lucifer had dominion and authority. This authority was given to Lucifer by God. So you are saying, according to your bible, that God, your God, gave Satan enough power and dominion to whip God's collective butt? You cannot have it both ways. Either your God is omnipotent and all powerful, or he is not these things at all. Which is it, exactly?
In some translations the Latin Vulgate term “Lucifer” is retained. It is, however, merely the translation of the Hebrew word heh‧lel′, “shining one.” Heh‧lel′ is not a name or a title but, rather, a term describing the boastful position taken by Babylon’s dynasty of kings of the line of Nebuchadnezzar.) (Isa 14:4-21)

See how it is? If the Holy Church, in all of it's power and glory, wanted to hold on to that power, and at the same time get the people to be afraid enough of an enemy,
Satan as powerful as God, and at the same time give over hard earned money for a promise of heaven. Not a bad con.

Originally posted by mamabeth
I don't care whatever Israel does,I will not turn against Israel.They are God's chosen people and I will always support them.Salvation is to the jew first,then the gentiles!

That seems terribly foolish of you, and is the catchphrase that should be used to remove religious dogma from political matters entirely.

The idea that you would support them if they nuked millions if people, made rape and murder of non-jews public policy, or even if they decided to commit terrorist acts in America is beyond obscene.

That on top of the fact that many have claimed that Israelis are not the descendants of "God's Chosen People". I don't know about that personally as I have not gotten around to reading more about it, but it certainly would be needed to hold you opinion.

Because they are God's chosen people,God will bless those that bless her and curse those that curse her.

This is not rational conversation and means nothing more than if I spouted Hindu dogma at you.

As for me and my family,we serve the Lord!

My apologies. Sincerely.

reply to post by autowrench


I couldn't finish reading your reply.
1.Satan does have power! BUT,his power is limited by what God will
allow him to do.
2.God is on His throne and God is in control.
3.When Jesus/Yeshua was crucified on the cross,satan's time was
numbered.
4.When Jesus/Yeshua returns,He will remove satan from his throne.
5.Satan has control of the world right now,but not for long.

reply to post by mamabeth


So Israel could go commit genocide against a certain group of people and you wouldnt care?

If thats the case, you better not ever bring up the nazis.

Originally posted by mamabeth


If,Israel
should fall,the U.S. would soon follow! If the U.S. turns against Israel,
the U.S. would be doomed.

I really do hope youre trolling and dont actually believe the crap you type.

If you do believe that tripe, do the word a favor and dont have children.

reply to post by KrazyJethro


1.In my opinion,I think that Iran will drop nukes first.
2.I believe my King James Bible before anything else.
3.Since men can't control their carnal urges,there will be rape on both
sides of the issues.
4.We have had murder since Cain slew his brother Abel.
I can't play anymore,I have to get up at 5:00 a.m.,I'll be back
tomorrow.

reply to post by freetree64


Your kidding right? She is so far out there it is scary.
Sorry Minnesota but you need to take your crazy back and keep it in Minnesota. Preferably way out in the deep woods.
If you are interested here is a link to her fan club.
dumpbachmann.blogspot.com...

reply to post by brainwrek



Buddy,I have trolls for breakfast,lunch and dinner!
I believe everything that I post on this website.If I
should make a mistake,I am woman enough to admit
it.Since I haven't made any mistakes that I know of,
I'm heading for bed.

reply to post by sadwolf


>>>>Pack's bag's and head's to Michelle's place in the wood's, away from all the sane people....

reply to post by mamabeth


Actually you've made many mistakes. Every time you post some fictional story from the bible, you've been mistaken.

Dont forget, there is a reason its called faith and not fact.

You cant prove a single thing in it.

reply to post by brainwrek


I didn't see the part about hoping I don't have children.
TOO LATE BUDDY,I have the stretch marks and episiotomy
scars to prove I have given birth! I also have grandchildren!
My family supports Israel as well.We also pray for the peace
of jerusalem.

reply to post by freetree64


What happened to your thread OP?

WOW...

dang it ATS...

I always found it interesting how Israel became a nation, they were smart people in the fact they managed to bluff the Saudi's into believe they were surrounded by hundreds of cannons when all they had was a machine gun and two mortar shells from World War Two. The obvious is Israel has been allied with the United States of America for a very long time. I do not see a break up anytime soon. I think some things are taken for granted by Israel as well on our side. The only true ally I can think of is Poland when 911 came they were first to say they would back us up in any war, not Israel.

As far as the Iran and Israel take, you can bet where the United States will side. I am not sure how politicians confuse Religion and mix it with politics. Religion is a very dangerous tool. Too many examples from ancient accounts to even now. This also does not apply to only "Christianity", I mean any religion!

Politicians need to read the "United States Constitution" and act accordingly by it's laws for once. It does not bother me in the least that money has "In God We Trust" on it as well. That statement can mean money is the god they trust or the bank of Allah or what ever god you want to perceive.

I find the article entertaining on the basis is another "Failed" attempt to bring in christian support for political gain.

Propaganda is a great tool for any nation, it teaches one nation how to hate another by simply putting religion in it.

Originally posted by brainwrek
reply to post by mamabeth

 

Actually you've made many mistakes. Every time you post some fictional story from the bible, you've been mistaken.

Dont forget, there is a reason its called faith and not fact.

You cant prove a single thing in it.

I live by faith,not by sight.I am right and you are wrong.I can prove my
faith a lot better than you can prove your intelligence!

reply to post by Bicent76


I have no idea, but, look's like it's gone to the God's, or lack of God's or something to that effect....In two day's perhaps it won't matter, god forbid...whoop's, here we go again


*Even so, come Lord Jesus.....

I smell the next republican leader in the works.

God the far right is soo freaking crazy...its like 1/4th of the voters in this country got jealous of the taliban and decided to create their own christian version.

reply to post by mamabeth



I've posted proof of Israel's illegitimacy

You KNOW Judaism FORBIDS jews to live in the holy lands until the coming of the jewish messiah

But they're still THERE !


Jewish and Israeli historian, scholars, archaelogists and researchers have endlessly repeated that David and Solomon are myths


Jews rejected the messiah. And ever since they have heaped blasphemy and filth upon the Christian religion


They've lied. They've raped and robbed and murdered the true occupants of Palestine

They did it yesterday

They're doing more of it today

They disgust themselves

and they disgust the civillized world


Informed jews believe fake israel should be dissolved

Wise jews know it will happen

Originally posted by SaturnFX
I smell the next republican leader in the works.

God the far right is soo freaking crazy...its like 1/4th of the voters in this country got jealous of the taliban and decided to create their own christian version.

To be clear, the far right is not one group. There are actually three groups over here.

Libertarians - Fiscal Conservative Socially Liberal - I am one of these and constantly get lumped in with the Christians, much to my annoyance and the furtherance of American stupidity. These are much less rarely Christians.

Fiscal Conservative Socially Conservative - This group seems to be terribly confused most of the time, especially considering they love the Constitution, but only when it agrees with their sensibilities. These are Christians more often than not, generally the more hardcore ones.

GOP - Fiscal Liberals Socially Conservative - The most powerful and most dangerous group as they pretty much defy their entire platform in practice. These are also Christians more often than not, although oddly the more mainstream and moderate type.

Please don't lump us all in together.

Originally posted by mamabeth
I live by faith,not by sight.I am right and you are wrong.I can prove my
faith a lot better than you can prove your intelligence!

I couldn't imagine you are taken seriously on political or intellectual matters considering your views here.

You've got to admit, that from a non-Christian view (aka most of the world) you seem rather nutty, illogical, and prone to anti-intellectual statements.

No offense but that's the way you come across. Many Christians I've respected have had very in depth discussions, meaning not simply stating weird abstracts and emotional responses.