All UFO's Are Ours, Aliens Haven't Visited Ever, & Believers Are Possibly Delusional

I think your all so skeptical of other wordly beings existing, If any of you were educated, You would know there is a spirit world, Higher dimentions and Realms.

Aliens Are actually Spiritual Beings, Able to transcend, descend, Disapear in Wormhomes created by them, Cause they are actually beings of spiritual nature not Craftly nature.

IF we wish to go more into this im sure its been discussed already, And i dont want people to get upset by the evidence that they are real, and that if we look at it in a christian/Religous way, Still fixating that you want to look at them in a scientific way

When god sent 1/3 of his angels with the fall of lucifer, (The brightest Star) yes? It is said that his number is of that Sands of the sea, And that god is way more overpowering for he is the almighty creature and ruler of the material world, and Anti Material.

When these angels cross over into our plane, We see a differant view, That these Fallen angels (Aliens) have been here since the very beggining..

??!!! Where do you think Zeus, And Hercules originate from?, What about Rah, And horus, And other egyptian gods??? Are they supposed to be the gods??? No in actual fact they are just Fallen entities (SKY GODS) that when sent down by God for Trying to over rule gods throne, And were sent here along long time ago.. Since before atlantis.

Goliath was a Nephilim, So were all his brothers, For they are results of YES spiritual Beings procreating with woman, For they lusted after them, This is explained in the bible too, Actually if you look at it the way i do, The bible is probably as true, and scientific in wisdom as it can get.

So getting to the point that these supposed sun gods? and sky gods have not been here before or ever existed is a lie, Because the evidence is there, and if anyone! is interested by what i have to say from the top of my head, i can go on.

Okay put it like this...

Is the universe infinite?
-Yes

Just to put this in perspective
-THERE ARE TRILLIONS UPON TRILLIONS OF PLANETS, HECK EVEN INFINITE

Now we have THAT covered, just think all the planets that could have life
Ill give you a sec


Good

Now this is what I think

We cannot be ALONE, there are INFINITE NUMBER OF PLANETS!!!!

I think there is life in the universe, somewhere 100,000 planets to eh, about million planets.

There might be life forms, intelligent life forms.

They might not look like us, they might look like hamburgers or dogs, but there is life

reply to post by CaptChaos


I envy you. You should start a thread about the objects you've seen over the oceans.

Originally posted by InnerstellarOne
I think your all so skeptical of other wordly beings existing, If any of you were educated, You would know there is a spirit world, Higher dimentions and Realms.

Aliens Are actually Spiritual Beings, Able to transcend, descend, Disapear in Wormhomes ...

Priceless ... Oh, boy.

reply to post by Signals
I am new to this site and the reason I came here is to post honest experiences. I try to keep a very open mind to all things ceated in this universe. The reason I feel this way is that if one day we sould ever be told or something happens that has been considered not normal to come out with proof then I wont be in shock. To say that it never will happen is inpossible. I have seen a UFO I did not have a camera it took us by suprise at 2:am near Flagstaff AZ in 1977. This scared the heck out of me and my causin we were in the middle of nowhere land. All I said over and over is OH MY GOD. Do you really think they want to be uncovered? The problem is getting the proof. In our case the shock of seeing this UFO had us dumified. They can wisk out of sight in split second poof thier gone. Even if I wanted to take a picture I would of been to shakey to do it cause I couldnt take my eyes off of this spacecraft. I told my cousin to pull over but he did not want to do that. I now am glad we didn't. The other thing that was strange is that it beamed a light down I did get the feeling this thing was or could of wanted to capture us now that is what ran through my mind. People need to understand that things happen so quickly you dont all ways have time to get the proof.

Man, I hear you NorthStargal52! Would I love to have just one little bit of something, or a clear photo....What some do not understand is the way these beings can shift multidimensionally, and by simply turning a little bit, they disappear from human sight.
About a year ago I saw a Grey under street lights. Sure wish I had a camera for that one. One thing is clear, these beings, whoever they are, are really good at covering their tracks. What they cannot cover, the UFO recovery team takes care of. As Earth comes ever closer to the Galactic Center, the vibrations of the planet increase. You can feel it even now, if you are in tune. Soon these being well easily be seen by all. That is when things will get a little weird. I think the dead will appear then too. Curious times ahead!

Originally posted by noobsauce13
Okay put it like this...

Is the universe infinite?
-Yes

Just to put this in perspective
-THERE ARE TRILLIONS UPON TRILLIONS OF PLANETS, HECK EVEN INFINITE

Now we have THAT covered, just think all the planets that could have life
Ill give you a sec


Good

Now this is what I think

We cannot be ALONE, there are INFINITE NUMBER OF PLANETS!!!!

I think there is life in the universe, somewhere 100,000 planets to eh, about million planets.

There might be life forms, intelligent life forms.

They might not look like us, they might look like hamburgers or dogs, but there is life

Hello, YES, I agree with everything you have said here. This thread was created on my theory that UFOs belong to us, not aliens.

You are aware of the vast distances between systems and the er, little problems with traveling faster than the speed of light, yes?

There is not evidence aliens have been here, and, in fact, it is much more likely we have not been visited. Again, because of the sheer distances involved.

Originally posted by noobsauce13
Okay put it like this...

Is the universe infinite?
-Yes

Actually, we don't know. Your "yes" doesn't make it so.

Originally posted by Signals

You are aware of the vast distances between systems and the er, little problems with traveling faster than the speed of light, yes?

What "problem" are you talking about? (Please don't quote Einstein, because he explicitly predicted that particles and information can travel faster than the speed of light).

A 2008 quantum physics experiment also performed by Nicolas Gisin and his colleagues in Geneva, Switzerland has determined that the "speed" of the quantum non-local connection (what Einstein called spooky action at a distance) is at least 10,000 times the speed of light.

Originally posted by Signals

Originally posted by noobsauce13
Okay put it like this...

Is the universe infinite?
-Yes

Just to put this in perspective
-THERE ARE TRILLIONS UPON TRILLIONS OF PLANETS, HECK EVEN INFINITE

Now we have THAT covered, just think all the planets that could have life
Ill give you a sec


Good

Now this is what I think

We cannot be ALONE, there are INFINITE NUMBER OF PLANETS!!!!

I think there is life in the universe, somewhere 100,000 planets to eh, about million planets.

There might be life forms, intelligent life forms.

They might not look like us, they might look like hamburgers or dogs, but there is life

Hello, YES, I agree with everything you have said here. This thread was created on my theory that UFOs belong to us, not aliens.

You are aware of the vast distances between systems and the er, little problems with traveling faster than the speed of light, yes?

There is not evidence aliens have been here, and, in fact, it is much more likely we have not been visited. Again, because of the sheer distances involved.

Signals, I get that you do not discount the sightings of so many unidentified-flying-objects. I also understand that your belief is that these craft are piloted by none other than humans. Try for just a moment to look at the data

UFO's have been sighted for hundreds if not thousands of years. But even if you discount this vast history of sightings, lets just look at the past hundred years.... starting with first flight of man. With a period of not more than 30 to 40 years later the UFO phenomenon began...FOO Fighters they were called, exhibiting flight capabilities that, even today, would crush the average human just because of g forces...
What your suggesting is that long before the first ever flight into space by man in a rocket, that we had learned to create and control noiseless, faster than the eye can follow, non harmful to human physiology craft. And did so without aid or knowledge to the general population at large.

I'm afraid that your supposition doesn't hold up to scrutiny, unless of course it's your premise that all those previous sightings were nothing more than delusions by uneducated ignorant individuals.

So lets step forward in time just a bit, Roswell incident, this event took place during a time of unprecedented national security, secrecy and scientific exploration surrounding the birth of the nuclear age. The brightest minds in the country worked on this project and some of the brightest minds from other countries as well... who were the individuals that were developing UFO technology then?

It's not as if this phenomenon started with the birth of the microwave oven or the invention of the cat scan, it's been around a long time, longer than I've been alive (49 years by the way) and the evolution of mans scientific prowess does not support your theory that these craft simply belong to the technological advancements of man and man alone. Unless you can support that theory with evidence of such scientific advancements in any form(which if you can, I'll be the first to concede) then your theory is bunk


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Amen, Twohawks.

It's like the wind. It's experiential.

You need to research Billy Meire. You need to view thedisclosureproject.org press conference. There are many retired military people, scientists, and a lawyer that speak. The question I ask when people like this step forward is what do they have to gain, nothing. What do they have to lose, everything, they will be ridiculed by people that prehaps, are like yourself. who maybe have not spent hundreds of hours researching. Google the video "the greatset story ever denied". If you still doubt after all this then you don't really want to know the truth. You can then continue reading the redneck news and be a goyim like the majority of the world.

It is kind of funny, really. People call Christians delusional for believing in fairy tales and make believe characters. Where is the proof for alien life beyond Earth?

reply to post by Equinox99


Nice attempt to try and spin the status quo but it's not going to fly around here on ATS. For years it's been the opposite when it comes to the UFO phenomenon and religion. For the vast majority of people on this planet the belief of a "God" or an "afterlife" is completely acceptable and nobody in documented history has ever drawn into question the sanity of people who follow these religions blindly. Even though there's not one photograph or shred of evidence of a "God" and/or "Christ" working miracles on this Earth, causing mass volcanic upheavals, earthquakes, floods, etc... People are told to "just have faith" and believe in something that has never been captured on film, video or audio. Yet these people and their beliefs are fully accepted by society, they are never joked about or viewed as fictional comedy by the mass media even though they are following something that as far as science is considered falls into the category of 100% pure fiction.

Even worse than these facts are the folks who will blindly believe in a religion and an afterlife, yet will completely laugh and disregard this planet is, or has been, visited by "extra terrestrials" in unexplained craft. This creates one heck of a contradiction in terms of the values and "spirituality" these people base their lives on. Even though the images, witness testimony, documentation and physical evidence of UFO's outweigh the complete none existent evidence of a "God", the UFO phenomenon is still considered by many, including religious people around the globe and the MSM, to be utter nonsense.

Something is wrong somewhere...






[edit on 10-2-2010 by Jocko Flocko]

[edit on 10-2-2010 by Jocko Flocko]

Originally posted by Jocko Flocko
reply to post by Equinox99

 

Nice attempt to try and spin the status quo but it's not going to fly around here on ATS. For years it's been the opposite when it comes to the UFO phenomenon and religion. For the vast majority of people on this planet the belief of a "God" or an "afterlife" is completely acceptable and nobody in documented history has ever drawn into question the sanity of people who follow these religions blindly. Even though there's not one photograph or shred of evidence of a "God" and/or "Christ" working miracles on this Earth, causing mass volcanic upheavals, earthquakes, floods, etc... People are told to "just have faith" and believe in something that has never been captured on film, video or audio. Yet these people and their beliefs are fully accepted by society, they are never joked about or viewed as fictional comedy by the mass media even though they are following something that as far as science is considered falls into the category of 100% pure fiction.

Even worse than these facts are the folks who will blindly believe in a religion and an afterlife, yet will completely laugh and disregard this planet is, or has been, visited by "extra terrestrials" in unexplained craft. This creates one heck of a contradiction in terms of the values and "spirituality" these people base their lives on. Even though the images, witness testimony, documentation and physical evidence of UFO's outweigh the complete none existent evidence of a "God", the UFO phenomenon is still considered by many, including religious people around the globe and the MSM, to be utter nonsense.

Something is wrong somewhere...






[edit on 10-2-2010 by Jocko Flocko]

[edit on 10-2-2010 by Jocko Flocko]

I have been following this discussion and agree 100% with your comments. You make great points about how it is completely acceptable for an individual to believe in his or her religion, based solely on faith alone but, on the contrary how anyone who brings up aliens or UFO being frowned upon or considered off their rocker...

It just doesn't make any sense when you think about them both.. There is so much more prrof towards ET's than God, it makes me sick how this society approaches both!

S for you my friend

[edit on 10-2-2010 by NoFilter2323]

reply to post by NoFilter2323


Jocko Flocko does make some good points.

However, the original discussion had nothing to do with religion.

I think there's a lot of flaws with that too. And it lacks proof as well. But that's for another thread.

[edit on 10-2-2010 by lillebner]

Originally posted by NoFilter2323

Originally posted by Jocko Flocko
reply to post by Equinox99

 

Nice attempt to try and spin the status quo but it's not going to fly around here on ATS. For years it's been the opposite when it comes to the UFO phenomenon and religion. For the vast majority of people on this planet the belief of a "God" or an "afterlife" is completely acceptable and nobody in documented history has ever drawn into question the sanity of people who follow these religions blindly. Even though there's not one photograph or shred of evidence of a "God" and/or "Christ" working miracles on this Earth, causing mass volcanic upheavals, earthquakes, floods, etc... People are told to "just have faith" and believe in something that has never been captured on film, video or audio. Yet these people and their beliefs are fully accepted by society, they are never joked about or viewed as fictional comedy by the mass media even though they are following something that as far as science is considered falls into the category of 100% pure fiction.

Even worse than these facts are the folks who will blindly believe in a religion and an afterlife, yet will completely laugh and disregard this planet is, or has been, visited by "extra terrestrials" in unexplained craft. This creates one heck of a contradiction in terms of the values and "spirituality" these people base their lives on. Even though the images, witness testimony, documentation and physical evidence of UFO's outweigh the complete none existent evidence of a "God", the UFO phenomenon is still considered by many, including religious people around the globe and the MSM, to be utter nonsense.

Something is wrong somewhere...






[edit on 10-2-2010 by Jocko Flocko]

[edit on 10-2-2010 by Jocko Flocko]

I have been following this discussion and agree 100% with your comments. You make great points about how it is completely acceptable for an individual to believe in his or her religion, based solely on faith alone but, on the contrary how anyone who brings up aliens or UFO being frowned upon or considered off their rocker...

It just doesn't make any sense when you think about them both.. There is so much more prrof towards ET's than God, it makes me sick how this society approaches both!

S for you my friend

[edit on 10-2-2010 by NoFilter2323]

I agree with some of what you say, I do not believe in religion, it was created by man to control mankind. I do believe in God but not as the bible teaches us. I do not believe in the biblical character called Jesus because I don't know how he came into being, but I do believe in Immanuel. I would like to suggest that you research Billy Meire, as far as God and that stuff goes. As far as proof of extra terrestrials there is no better person then Billy meire to study. He has to this day given the best authenic pictures and videos of ufo beamships. His pictures and videos have being scrutinized by the worlds leading experts in these fields and they have come away dumbfounded. He has given metals to the likes of scientist Marcel Vogul which he shared with others in his field and their findings would astound those who refuse to believe ETs exist. As for your non - belief in the afterlife, unless you have experienced death or know someone who has I don't feel it is right to say it doesn't exist. If you read or research Dannion Brinkley he might change your mind. His life after his first passing has been documented thourghly.

Hey Signals,

I hear what you're saying. Too many people confuse the term UFO with Alien visitation. Unlike so many others who've overreacted in this thread I don't take any offense to your OP. A better choice of words could've been used but I understand where you're coming from.

I've had a UFO sighting myself, in close proximity, of a triangle shaped object. It was fairly large and there were multiple witnesses. This happened in 1988, roughly around the time of the famous Belgian sightings, which I wasn't aware of at the time. As incredible as this sighting was however, I've never jumped to the conclusion that what I saw was aliens paying a visit. Unless I see an alien I won't cry alien.
In all honesty I have no idea what I saw, and I'm sure most, if not all, of the members on ATS wouldn't either. For anyone to make the claim that aliens are visiting us with what's been presented so far is foolish.

Too many people make the mistake of turning speculation into fact.

And who's to say that just because an object behaves in a manner that's foreign to the general public's current understanding of the laws of physics that no one else on this planet has developed some extraordinary technology? Why is it so hard for people to believe that a black budget, ultra secret group with huge resources and teams of very clever people could be behind this? I'm not saying that's a fact, just a possibility we need to be open to.
After all it's alleged that military technology is at least 40 years ahead of the rest of the world. We should keep that in mind.

reply to post by lillebner


I was with you until you mentioned Billy Meier. His faked miniature pictures are simply laughable. If you want to have a serious look into how his cult is operating check out the podcasts at the Paracast where David and Gene discuss the topic with the official US rep of the cult.

Why do you guys want to believe in ET so badly that you're falling for any con man