All UFO's Are Ours, Aliens Haven't Visited Ever, & Believers Are Possibly Delusional

Originally posted by Nichiren

Originally posted by Signals

You are aware of the vast distances between systems and the er, little problems with traveling faster than the speed of light, yes?

What "problem" are you talking about? (Please don't quote Einstein, because he explicitly predicted that particles and information can travel faster than the speed of light).

A 2008 quantum physics experiment also performed by Nicolas Gisin and his colleagues in Geneva, Switzerland has determined that the "speed" of the quantum non-local connection (what Einstein called spooky action at a distance) is at least 10,000 times the speed of light.

Actually, Einstein predicted no such thing.

Also, quantum entanglement and the subsequent connection in no way whatsoever involves the transmission of information. Nor does it involve any particles traveling faster than light.

It is a cold, hard fact that the speed of light is the limit to velocity in this universe. There is simply no question about this, regardless of what you prefer to believe.

However, velocity is a well-defined term and it might be possible to travel from one place to another without invoking velocity at all. Were I you, I'd stick to that sort of argument if you wish to place aliens here at this time or in the past.

Unfortunately for this argument, if one alien ship could travel instantaneously to any star in this galaxy, and if this crew took 5 seconds to check out the solar system they arrived at before going on to the next one, it would take them over 4,000 years of ship time to visit only approximately half of the star systems in this one, single galaxy.

So, your argument is still very weak.

Harte

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Sure about that?

. . . according to the general theory of relativity, the law of the constancy of the velocity of light in vacuo, which constitutes one of the two fundamental assumptions in the special theory of relativity [. . .] cannot claim any unlimited validity. A curvature of rays of light can only take place when the velocity of propagation of light varies with position.

Source: A. Einstein, "Relativity: the special and general theory"

… there is also an amplitude for light to go faster (or slower) than the conventional speed of light. You found out in the last lecture that light doesn't go only in straight lines; now, you find out that it doesn't go only at the speed of light! It may surprise you that there is an amplitude for a photon to go at speeds faster or slower than the conventional speed, c.[35]
– Richard Feynman

Therefore, one of the consequences of special relativity is that (assuming causality is to be preserved), no information or material object can travel faster than light. On the other hand, the logical situation is not as clear in the case of general relativity, so it is an open question whether there is some fundamental principle that preserves causality (and therefore prevents motion faster than light) in general relativity.

Source: en.wikipedia.org...

This thread has certainly swerved from the original post. Not that it was worth a hoot. "I don't believe in aliens!" And 25 pages ensue.

But regardless, I think it's comical that people actually quote current or past science, and act as if this is the end-all of all theories of space travel. They are just starting to scratch the surface of say, quantum physics, where an electron moves at one point, and another move identically, billions of light years away. We know NOTHING. Nothing. We are infants still, in the grand scheme of science. And yet you really feel you can definitively state what is and is not possible? Lots of confidence, eh?

I think we'll think and rethink current knowledge of space and space travel tens or hundreds of thousands of times in the next 1000 years. We know nothing, and you are acting as if we know it all. I think space travel is honestly the least of issues, in regards to visitation.

Originally posted by fleabit
This thread has certainly swerved from the original post. Not that it was worth a hoot. "I don't believe in aliens!" And 25 pages ensue.

All threads do after about 3 pages tops

Thanks for the opinion and for keeping it alive!

Sorry, But im going to have to stop you in your quest for elightenmight to take a detour of reading this.

Alien Nation Irenaeus an early church father had stated that the not only could the antichrist be Jewish but could also be a Nephilim. For me this makes perfect sense. The end time empire will be a coming together of the spiritual and military forces of evil. This empire is called Babylon the Great in the book of Revelation. It's interesting to note that the founder of Babylon was Nimrod. About Nimrod Gen 10:8-9 says, "And Cush begat Nimrod: he began to be a mighty one in the earth. He was a mighty hunter before the LORD: wherefore it is said, Even as Nimrod the mighty hunter before the LORD." The word "mighty" is the gibowr, the same word used for the Nephilim. Interesting to note too that Esau was born with red fur all over his body and he too was a skilled hunter. Many feel that Nimrod was a righteous man because where it says he was a mighty hunter before the Lord. This simply means that the Lord knew Nimrod. It also says in scripture that he "began" to be a mighty hunter before the Lord. The word began means: to profane, to defile, to pollute, to desecrate, to begin… to profane oneself, to defile oneself, to pollute oneself… to violate (a covenant)…(Pual) to profane (name of God) -Brown-Driver-Briggs' Definition. In other words this was one evil beast.

"We weren't always like this… after the moon fell from the sky, the earth could no longer sustain a species. Some managed to stay above, the rest of us escaped underground. Then centuries later when we tried to emerge in to the sun again we couldn't. So we bred ourselves in to casts. Some to be our eyes and ears, some to be to be our muscles and sinews." -The movie Time Machine 2002

Giants found have come with double rows of teeth, red hair, horns, six toes, and six fingers. So what happed to all these giants? Where did they go? I believe that because there were too many conflicts with humans, the giants then migrated into the caves and caverns of the earth. The rest were modified and have lived with humans for centuries. They were self-bred to be shorter and to loose all the telltale physical signs such as double rows of teeth, six fingers and such. The bottom line is that they are the ones that live among us. They are the New World Order. "And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay." Dan 2:43

We can clearly see here that the Nephilim are the ones among us that are the iron. We are the clay because God created us from the minerals of the earth. The iron comes from the tyrants. They are the star children of the angels. The Nephilim are without any compassion for humans and have only a distain for them. They are the great leaders of war and bloodshed. They are the ones that exploit mankind through a hidden secret government of iron. The Nephilim make sure that we are the slaves that are kept in poverty, disease, and ignorance. In the Bible they are called the Tares, and the Iron as outlined earlier. One of the greatest world empires they produced was Rome, which turned into a massive killing machine that destroyed the Christians. The Fallen Angels brought culture and new age concepts while the Nephilim brought military supremacy to the world. The Nazi party was a proto-type of their new end time world empire, which is now rising from the ashes as we speak. The purpose of the Nephilim is to destroy all God's children. Gen 3:15 states, "And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel." The word enmity means hatred.

Continued.

The Nephilim have an intense hatred for humans. All through the Old Testament the Nephilim tribes were at war with Israel and Israel was instructed to exterminate every Nephilim man, woman, and child. In the Old Testament there are twenty Nephilim tribes listed, and all of them were at war with Israel. Some of the names of Nephilim in the Old Testament are, Rephaim, Anakim, Emim, Zuzim, Zamzummims, Zophim Hittites, Perizzites, Rephaims, Amorites, Canaanites, Girga#es, and the Jebusites.

All the Nephilim died at the time of the flood with only Noah and his family surviving. So why is it that Noah and his immediate family were the only ones immune from this great judgment is significant. Genesis 6:9 states that, "Noah was a just man." Like Enoch before him, Noah also "walked with God." But there was another reason why Noah was spared. Genesis 6:9 says that Noah was "perfect in his generation." Does this mean moral and spiritual perfection? No. The Hebrew word for perfect is "tamiym" and comes from the root word "taman." It means "without blemish" as seen in Exodus 12:5, 29:1, and Leviticus 1:3. Just like Christ the sacrificial lamb had to be without any physical blemish, so Noah's perfection had to be maintained. In its primary meaning, it refers not to any moral or spiritual quality, but to physical purity. Noah was not a Nephilim. It is my belief that when the rain fell, Noah and his family were the only humans left alive that had not been cannibalized by the Nephilim. At this point I suspect that though Noah was without any physical blemish, he still possessed the satanic DNA from the Garden of Eden.

That DNA represents the fall of mankind. It is what contaminated Eve and now a limited lifespan was introduced through the aging process. Not only did Eve die spiritually, she also died physically. Now how is it that Adam gained the same fallen DNA? As pointed out earlier, I feel that Adam may of fell prey to Lucifer's appetite too. Also note that that during the act of intercourse DNA is passed on. It is not a stretch to imagine that DNA received from Lucifer was passed on to Adam by Eve. Also as already pointed out, this DNA will only pop up here and there. In other words, there is no guarantee that a man and a wife with black hair and brown eyes will have a child with the same. They may have a few kids the same, then the next one comes with blonde hair and blue eyes. We all carry the corrupted seed from the Garden of Eden that has survived through Noah. Some of us just have traces and some have a full-blown expression. Take a pure bred Pit Bull dog and cross it with a many other breeds of dogs. It's very hard to decide which or how many of the puppies will have the traits and attitudes of a Pit Bull. Some will just have a few traits not making them Pit Bulls, while others will be almost a full Pit Bull.

The purest satanic bloodline known today is called the top thirteen bloodlines of the Illuminati. These Satanists are all kissing cousins that only marry within the family, and not with the rest of us low life cattle. So what we have today are so called humans that are a mixture of the seed of Satan and the Nephilim. Is it any wonder why the world is so evil beyond anyone's imagination?

As mentioned, in 1911, several red-haired mummies ranging from 6 and half feet to 8 feet tall were discovered in a cave in Lovelock, Nevada. These were the Si-Te-Cah giants that were always at war with the Paiute Indians. They would dig up the Indians dead and eat them as well as hunting down the tribes as a food source. Now that we know that some were only six feet tall, what if you could go back in time and take one of these six foot tall Nephilim and dress him in a suit and tie. Now what if you dressed him up in a suit and tie and drop him off in a city in the year 2003, would he be noticed in a crowd? Not at all! Now what if you educated him and gave him a good job, don't you think that he would fit our society with relative ease? You bet! Now what if he became a politician or even a pastor of a Church. If you at this point have goose bumps, then at this point you are beginning to understand my point. President Abraham Lincoln was 6 foot four inches and was a giant in his day. They say he suffered from Marfan syndrome, which is a genetic defect. Is it a defect? Or is it a recessive Nephilim gene handed down through the family tree?

In the movie Alien Nation, the aliens came down and lived with mankind and were assimilated into society. They became doctors, criminals, police and such. They were all bald with coloured stripes on their heads, other than that, they were very human looking. This is a real common theme that runs through the Sci-Fi movies.

As I have said the Nephilim are here and are determined to destroy all mankind. They have taken leadership positions over us and are keeping us in a social cage of slavery. They have imposed on us a system of an illegal taxation that people pay without a thought. They gain power and control over us because most people will not believe that these men are that evil, but who says they are men? They are the true aliens that live among us. Centuries ago they must have mingled with the seed of men in order to destroy us from within. They are the iron of the New World Order. Because of the enmity between them and us, they will not cling to us. They would rather destroy us than to rule over us. This will make the New World Order.

both strong and weak. "And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, just as iron is not mixed with clay." Dan 2:43 They are so mingled with mankind that is it almost impossible to tell them apart from humans, (Matt. 13). Notice how I said almost. For many years I have worked out a personality of these Tares. They are always totally self-absorbed and have no compassion for others. They are very nice as long as they know that they can manipulate you. When you stand against them, then the real them begins to emerge. They have hair trigger tempers and feel that their opinions are the only valid opinions. They feel all other opinions are silly and a waste of attention. If they express an opinion that you take issue with, then they see you as a fool and become very angry and agitated. They have no shame or remorse and can make our lives a living hell. Their moods are up and down al the time. One minute they are giggling, then the next minute they going off like a bomb. They are smooth and very manipulative. Arguing with them is pointless, as they have no empathy for you or anyone else around them. They are truly psychopathic by nature.

The red haired remains of the Si-te-Cah were often found with the remains of giant women and babies. Well this would be a major advantage in intermingling with early human tribes. In other words, if you can't beat them (the humans), join them. In all positions of power the Nephilim have taken over. Many people cannot believe that that the government was behind Waco, the Oklahoma bombing, or most recently the 9-11 bombing. Why is because people have this deep feeling that human beings can not do that kind of violence and intense evil to other human beings, but the Nephilim can. These Tares can watch ten thousand children die at their feet and they couldn't care less. Human life means nothing to these aliens among us! They have no conscience and are the centre of their universe. Satan has had four thousand years since the flood to organize his evil and infiltrate our society. Christianity has only been on the earth for 2000 years. When our Lord walked the earth, mankind was already enslaved by the Roman Empire. Today the evil among us control every aspect of our reality. It is very ignorant for Church people to deny the fact that some very dark and dangerous forces do not infiltrate their church. This dark force works very hard to keep the churches in a state of deep spiritual sleep.

TV has done a great job sabotaging of true Christianity! It has created a few major icons in the subject of Rapture. These men have made names for themselves by preaching the Rapture and have millions of followers. Once the Rapture comes, these Tares that will be left behind to act as damage control. It is these leaders that the public will come to them for answers and these Nephilim Tares will lead them into deep apostasy. They will lead people to worship their god Lucifer the light bearer.

Not all Nephilim beasts are intensely evil. It varies from person to person. Not all commit murder, but all have no empathy towards humans, but oh they can pretend to care and can cry big tears when they want to manipulate you. One personality trait that they ALL have is their deep hatred for Jesus Christ. It is not just anger like humans have; it is a deep and hard hatred towards God. Most are drawn to the religion of their god, that is Satanism, which includes magick, astrology, witchcraft and numerology. In the past the Nephilim were obsessed with the drinking of blood and cannibalism, so it is interesting to note that this is what Satanism has at its core of ritualism today. What I find most shocking is how the Red Cross runs the entire blood supply of North America. Their symbol of a red cross on a white background is a well know historical symbol of the Knights of the Templar. Who are they? This is a statement from their own site at: www.knightstemplar.org...

"The Order of Knights Templar today exists as the top ranking Masonic organization in the York Rite of Freemasonry. The Order today requires membership in a Chapter of Royal Arch Masons and in some jurisdictions, membership in a Council of Royal and Select Masters." The Knights Templar is a Christian-oriented fraternal organization based on the ancient organization that was founded in the 11th century. Today, the Knights Templar display their courage and goodwill in different ways than the ancient Templars. Members of the Order today organize fund-raising activities such as breakfasts, dinners, dances and flea markets for the support of Masonic-related youth groups, in addition to raising millions of dollars for charitable purposes."

Continuing

The Masons are extremely powerful and completely in control of us all. This Nephilim organization has members that include most presidents, judges, and heads of major corporations. And it is these Tares that have their finger on the blood supply of North America! I imagine too that they have control over all the major sperm banks. The Nephilim form of government is not about freedom and democracy, it is about power and control and the extermination of the human race as in the days of Noah. These are the true aliens that live among us. They are self-righteous, lustful, angry, cruel, and without compassion for others. They hate God, and by nature they hate us with such bitter and evil intensity. They think they know it all and you cannot explain anything to them, as they will never listen to your point of view. Everything they do wrong is someone else's fault, and they never take responsibility for any of their actions. They love money and are bitter to those that have it and they feel that the world owes them a living. They are also angry at the world and may become heavily involved in sex and drugs. They have no morals but can appear as if they do. “…a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.” 2 Tim 3:5

They can also be very charismatic, very charming, and can be the life of every party. Being funny and witty, they are hard to resist. Serial killer John Wayne Gacy was a prime example of this type of Nephilim. " It is no surprise that John Wayne Gacy, Jr. was admired and liked by most who had known him. He was a sharp businessman who had spent his time, when not building up his contracting company, hosting elaborate street parties for friends and neighbors, dressing as a clown and entertaining children at local hospitals and immersing himself in organizations such as the Jaycees, working to make his community a better place to live. People who knew Gacy thought of him as a generous, friendly and hard-working man, devoted to his family and community. However, there was another side to Gacy that few had ever witnessed...”
www.crimelibrary.com...

It always amazes me how people just pass this violent behaviour as being nothing more than demon possession. I think that this kind of sexual blood lust goes far beyond demonic possession. These are people that have no remorse and show no human qualities such as love, compassion, and empathy. These Nephilim Tares are not now, nor ever will be saved. Salvation is not for them. Yes Christ died for all, but only his children are allowed to except eternal life. Many are called and few are chosen. The death of Christ calls us for salvation, but to these creatures, they are called out for judgement. We are called out for eternal life while they are called to damnation. We are called to repentance in God while they are called to rebellion in Satan. They are the Nephilim, the children of the damned that have mingled with the seed of men. As at the time of the flood, the modern Nephilim are beasts that are excluded from salvation. So how can we know this from scripture?

In 1 Cor 15:31-32, Paul's says that he fought with beasts, then states that the beasts desire to eat and drink knowing that their time will pass. "I protest by your rejoicing which I have in Christ Jesus our Lord, I die daily. If after the manner of men I have fought with beasts at Ephesus, what advantageth it me, if the dead rise not? Let us eat and drink; for to morrow we die." Notice how Paul adds the eating and drinking here. I reminds me of the words found in Isa 26:14 where it says "They are dead, they shall not live; they are deceased, they shall not rise: therefore hast thou visited and destroyed them, and made all their memory to perish."

Continuing

The word "deceased" is the word Rapha, which some scholars believe is a reference to the Nephilim. Rephaim is word related to Rephaim who were primitive giants who lived in Canaan, Edom, Moab, and Ammon. They were also known as Emims (Deut. 2:11), and Zamzummims (Deut. 2:20). So if you render Isaiah 26:14 with the proper translation, it should read, "They are dead, they shall not live; they are the Nephilim, they shall not rise…" Now this begs the question, rise to what? The answer is found in Ps. 88:10 where it says, "Wilt thou shew wonders to the dead? Shall the dead arise and praise thee?" So Isaiah makes it very clear that the Nephilim will never rise to salvation. They are totally without hope. So it is very logical to assume that the religion of the Nephilim is to "eat, drink, and be merry, for tomorrow we die." Now let's look at this in context of scripture. What the Nephilim did was to drink blood, eat the flesh of man, and choose any wife they wanted for sex.

In Luke 17:27 is says, "They did eat, they drank, they married wives, they were given in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, and the flood came, and destroyed them all." This is a clear reference to the Nephilim and their belief. If you look at this scripture, you have to ask yourself why was it sinful to eat, drink, and marry. Again, what the Nephilim did was to eat the flesh of man, drink, his blood, and take his women for sex and reproduction of beasts to the world. Many Satanic cults worldwide practice the rituals of eating flesh, drinking (human) blood, and having sexual orgies. The religion of the Nephilim is Satanism, which in turn is the worship of their fallen father.

So now let me get back to my original point. Paul's statement is that he fought with beasts, and then adds that the beasts desire to eat and drink knowing that their time will pass. "I protest by your rejoicing which I have in Christ Jesus our Lord, I die daily. If after the manner of men I have fought with beasts at Ephesus, what advantageth it me, if the dead rise not? Let us eat and drink; for to morrow we die." For me it is clear that while in Ephesus Nephilim beasts tried to stop him from preach the word. Whether they were giants or whether they were of normal size, it is hard to tell. But they were Nephilim, the children of the damned. The bottom line is that they were Nephilim beasts that were trying to block Paul's ministry. In 2 Pet 2:12 it says, "But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption." 2 Pet 2:12

Note that it says they were “made to be destroyed!” The word in the language for "made" is born. This means that they were “born” to be destroyed! This does not sound like God's salvation is an option for these beasts. Rom 9:21-22 says, "Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus? Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour? What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction: And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory." The Nephilim are the ones that are to be cast out as Tares and burned in the fire. They are the weeds among the wheat. "But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath…" Rom 2:8

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Another good example of a modern Nephilim is Jeffery Dahmer who murdered, raped, drugged, cooked, and ate his victims. One victim's body he had sex with it, masturbated over it, dismembered it, and threw it in the garbage. It's interesting too that he had also dabbled in Satanism. This man is a Nephilim born to be destroyed. The depravity of his evil goes far beyond what a human could even imagine. This is an identifying trait of the Nephilim. How many more of these Tares are out there that never get caught. How many of them run corporations, run for office, and work with us. I can assure you that there are many, "Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it." Matt 7:14. Imagine the secret black-ops projects and what advances they have made in the area of genetic hybrids!

Now what I am talking about should not be an excuse for a witch-hunt by saying certain people are Nephilim. Some are obvious to me, but this comes from years of learning how to discern. Not only that, but there are millions of people that are demon filled and can be pretty wild in their own right. These are as mentioned earlier the un-sprouted wheat. Millions of humans that are pre-destined for heaven will be saved during the Tribulation. Just like the Prodigal son in scripture, many people are predestined for salvation are still in a state of rebellion. Since God has not made himself known to these people as yet and has blinded them, they are the wheat that are waiting for the right season in which to begin to germinate and sprout. During the Tribulation they will shine forth God’s glory to the world.

After the Rapture takes place millions will come to the Lord. These people are with us right now and may act evil, but they do not have the depth of intense evil that the Nephilim Tares have. Also our secret ruling government the Illuminati is a core of evil that most humans cannot even imagine. These Nephilim bloodlines are not now nor ever will be saved. I am talking about is the hierarchy known as the top thirteen bloodlines of the Illuminati. There are many that can become members of the Illuminati, but you have to be born into the inner sanctum of power. The Illuminati do not mix their DNA with any common people. Their blood is pure and of the highest level of evil. I also have no doubt that they are also Reptilian by nature.

All humans are children of God and all are pre-destined for salvation. All the Nephilim hybrids are pre-destined for hell then the Lake of Fire. The will of man has nothing to do with salvation. Being born human means we are victims of satanic manipulation both spiritually and physically. God therefore was obligated to fix the damage created by Satan. Satan was created imperfect so that he could fulfill the will and plan of God. God then becomes responsible for our latter damage that was created after the fall. This is why God himself had to come down to be born human. He had to give his life for all his children who are human children of Adam.

The Nephilim are the weeds among us that will soon be rooted out. Christ came to take away the sins of his sheep and to open the spiritual door. It’s like an animal breeder who had a truckload of purebred dogs. Driving through the city he meets a terrible accident and all the dogs escape into the streets. Now it is up to the driver to seek out the lost valuable dogs and bring them back to the kennel. There is a problem though. In the alleyways are mean vicious strays that consider the streets as being theirs. As time goes by, the purebreds start to mingle with the strays and have pups. So now it is very hard to tell them apart from each other. The driver now calls out to the purebreds. They hear his voice and come running to him because they know his voice. The stray dogs that hear the driver’s call begin to snarl and froth at the mouth. They begin to growl and hide in the shadows because they don’t know his voice. In the end the entire purebred-elect dogs and all their elect pups are rounded up to be fed and to have their wounds healed. The rabid stray dogs are gathered up and put down. Because of Christ's sacrifice, we are now being called back to our Father in heaven. "But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you. My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me: And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand." John 10:26-28 The Nephilim do not hear his voice and hate Christ with all that they have. They are not called to repentance but called to judgement and knowing this they hide in the shadows. I highly suspect that there were and still are many Nephilim hybrids that are part of Israel as well as the rest of the world.

It always puzzled me how the Jews after being saved through the parting of the red sea could start to sin on the other side. They with their own eyes saw one of the greatest miracles ever seen, and what was their reaction? It was to eat, drink, and make merry. They began to build a golden calf to worship their real father from hell. As we can see from the statues of the giant kings, Nephilim giants, human/animal hybrids, and the Stargods/fallen angels ruled Egypt. Israel was always warned not intermarry with the nations, but this is what they did. The end result being that Israel became even more rebellious.

I used to think that God was cruel for condemning Israel to roam the wilderness for forty years simply because they were naturally afraid of the giants they were told to conquer, (Numbers 14:1). Because of this, God sent them to the wilderness for forty years to punish them. I always found this rather harsh behaviour for just feeling fearful. But there is more to this story. I get the feeling that the Jews were no longer pure and in fact they were Nephilim from cross breeding, something they were told never to do. Shocking statement I know, but let's go to the scripture. In Num. 14:24 it states, "But my servant Caleb, because he had another spirit with him, and hath followed me fully, him will I bring into the land whereinto he went; and his seed shall possess it."

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G'day InnerstellarOne

I agree completely.

Kind regards
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I find it hard to beleive that people who take to this theory of giants and all that you mention yet where is the proof.. I am not mentioning this to be sarcastic in any way but this is only part of the files. Indeed you must beleive that God is a super being right well then he had the power to have helpers. when the famous dino extinction came could this in fact have been done by accident or was it done for a reason? If you beleve that God controls all things that happen what about these things???

Notice that Caleb had a different spirit. From this scripture we can assume that Moses too had a different spirit. God declared to Moses that even though the Jews were forgiven, they were all sentenced to die in the wilderness. Jesus on the cross forgave all those who were killing him, but most were still hell bound. God says to Moses in verse 27, "How long shall I bear with this evil congregation, which murmur against me? I have heard the murmurings of the children of Israel, which they murmur against me." Notice here that God calls them evil. Obviously they were of another spirit. He said that their carcasses would lie in the open wilderness to be consumed. This is the same punishment that will be given to the Nephilim, (mighty men) in Rev 19:18. Also Jesus in referring to demons stated "When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places, seeking rest; and finding none." Luke 11:24. Israel was sentenced to 40 years to the wilderness. This reminds me of when God destroyed the Nephilim giants with a flood, he caused it to rain 40 days and nights. Note too that in the book of Numbers Israel “murmured against the Lord.” I see this as an expression of their deep hatred for God. Another reason that they may have not wanted to war with the giants was because they were of the same seed, kissing cousins if you will. Hard to say, but it's clear to see that God wanted to weed out the bad seeds because his people were victims of the mingling of seed and became the children of the damned.

In contrast look at David. David was quick to take on the giant Goliath and did not hesitate as Israel did. If Israel was of the right seed they would, they would of ran into battle against the giants with no hesitation at all. They would have loved their Lord and not snarled against him and build a golden calf to worship. They after building the calf began to drink and orgy. All through the Old Testament one can see where God is continually weeding out the bad seeds from Israel. With us today God is weeding out the seed of the flesh with all born-again believers in Christ. So has God given up on Israel? God forbid! God has reserved 144,000 Jewish virgins that are of a pure bloodline that will preach salvation to Israel during the last half of the Tribulation.

Thats all im going to post.

You can reach the site www.stargods.org...

For a read of what it is all about.

But backing up my final statement is that Aliens are real, and Majority of them are Greys/Reptillian, Cause of thier seed line they are corrolation with Lucifer who is a dragon, And demons Can appear and dissapear with out trace, So its easy to see why you deny god and believe in aliens, Cause you are so dumb and neive, That you are being brainwashed into believing a lie
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G'day InnerstellarOne

Sorry.....

I thought you'd finished.

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not

No god is not a super being.

He is the Supreme Being, The omniscient, The all Omnipotent, And all things are created by him for him, Even Spirtual beings and Celestial Entities, They all come from the same creator, But the truth is They are from him, and cause the 1/3 decided to fall, God sent them out of (Heaven) unto the Heavens and the earth.

But im not trying to ask anyone to believe what i believe, Im just trying to get the truth across as i have been trying to do for so long, And if this is to ridiculous for you to comprehend, I suggest you find another thread that denies god and submits evolution, kthnxbai.

My internet is slow, But thats alright, Its alot to read. But if you can get through it im sure your mental set of the spiritual side of aliens.


All regards, Please use this info, Read it Study it


There is more to the grand plan then we know, And only God is in controll


Man can only so much, Plus disclosure of UFOS is just going to be the stage plan for NWO...Watch the heavens

What part of australia you in buddy?


WA atm.

I work at karatha mines, Doing night shift, So im always watching the stars on my smoko breaks, Its really beautiful when there arnt any city lights around.

Stars seem more potent

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Supreme being... I am not saying there is no supreme being... Is it this being that is control of all things right then explain why he would throw a meteor into the earth making the dino's extinct??? is this in Genesis????
where in the book you refer to mentions anything about the universe and other planets that suround us which in fact play a big part in our exsistance so this is the part of files that were left out... calm down I am trying to open up your thinking if our Supreme being is in control of all things that happen then you can not rule out anything cause you dont know what the Supreme in fact has created in ALL... only the Supreme being knows.. and that is not in the book of Genesis nor are many unexplainable issues...