All UFO's Are Ours, Aliens Haven't Visited Ever, & Believers Are Possibly Delusional

So you do not believe in aliens then.There are possible 300 trillion galaxcies in the universe.Each galaxy has a adverage of about 300 billion star systems.Just in our own galaxcy there is proberly 30,000 planets simlar to earth.Whats the chance there is life on ones of thoses other planets like earth.Any normal person would believe with thoses odds there must be life on other planets.I cannot beleive someone could be so dumb like you.

So you do not believe in aliens then.There are possible 300 trillion galaxcies in the universe.Each galaxy has a adverage of about 300 billion star systems.Just in our own galaxcy there is proberly 30,000 planets simlar to earth.Whats the chance there is life on ones of thoses other planets like earth.Any normal person would believe with thoses odds there must be life on other planets.I cannot beleive someone could be so dumb like you.

The most compelling UFO story for me is the Battle of Los Angeles en.wikipedia.org...

Thousands of people must have seen this and there's no suitable explanation for what the craft was. It was bombarded by anti-air shells for several hours and didn't get taken down. It just stayed there until finally disappearing.

reply to post by Signals


Me and 2 other people all witnessed a ufo above a lake in Utah, Beaver. It was above the lake and disappeared before our eyes , idk if it is aliens persay, but there is something going on. If it isn't aliens and we have that kind of technology; we shouldn't be in as a bad a place as we are right now. Besides, can you prove that what me and everyone else sees/saw isn't alien in origin?

Originally posted by Signals
reply to post by Maxmars

 

Here's the point:

The vast majority of us here have at one point in time been caught up in the UFO/Alien phenomenon. We all WANT to believe...some of us NEED to believe. Why?

Because TPTB & MSM have taught us to believe. Why? Distraction. (see my OP)

Yet we believe without ANY tangible proof, without ANY. We have had decades and decades to come up with solid evidence and it's all one big piece of garbage! We've got nothing! It might as well be 1950 again!

And none of this is meant to be derogatory in anyway.

Thanks for asking BTW.

What do you mean without tangible proof! How do you know what the hell someone else has seen during their lifetime, for all you know someone might have had an experience in their lifetime that gives them plenty of tangible proof, but none to take back and show their friends! You are speaking from your persepective and through your eyes only!

So please don't speak for everyone because some people do know they exist, i'm sure of it. The fact is they can't prove it to anyone besides themselves, make sense!

Originally posted by BigFinger
All I know is I want answers. I've experienced strange things periodically throughout my life that coincide with the UFO phenomenon. I'm completely sane. I have a loving wife and kids. I'm an educated professional mechanical designer. I just want to know what the answer is.

Don't we all my friend, don't we all. There are some things better off left alone! I hope one day, before i die, some light will come of this whole god awful situation!

They say curiousity killed the cat, but it might work the same for us!

reply to post by Romans 10:9


Have you gone man?

Sounds like another "poop stirring" thread by someone who has ZERO interest in the UFO phenomenon and has convinced himself long ago that UFO's don't exist or are all "ours". The question then is why are you on this message board, other than to stir the pot and contribute nothing towards UFO research? Do you and the other self proclaimed pseudo-skeptics who seem to think they know all the answers, honestly think you are doing the rest of us some kind of service?

Give your head a shake fella, skeptical believers like myself didn't suddenly overnight become so. We have all researched the evidence gathered over the years and weighed it all very carefully. It will take a much better opening post to even remotely make any of us contemplate the UFO phenomenon as just a mass delusion of humanity for the last 5000+ years.

Respect to the original poster for this idea, although a bit perhaps harsh and no doubt jabbing at some opinions held.

Can life exist in the universe elsewhere? Can it be intelligent, advanced? Can it travel and visit our lowly planet?

Quite possibly - but thats not the original posts suggestion.

Its about what have we seen? What have we been allowed perhaps to see?

Unidentified flying objects.

And not to doubt or down any other stories or experiences of those that have shook hands or the universal equivalent with such supposed species etc - remaining focused simply on the rise and history of that UFO sighting.

Its a big leap to spot an object, light, shadow, shape in the sky, then declare it beyond physics beyond explanation and therefore - alien.

What is fact is it was for certain an unknown thing.

What is true is that there is nothing conclusive worldwide at all to date to prove that some other race species in craft is here or has been here.

There is opinion and idea and suggestion as to the origins and sources of these varying events.

But all that has ever been seen - is ......something.

What that something is ........ is all opinion and speculation.

Now in terms of very simple logic and sitting back out the arguments then you can see one hell of an effective smokescreen. For what though? Well we are back into speculation again and debate.

Bearing in mind ATS encourages a debate. Not a lining up of sides with flags banners, slogans, and grainy video evidence to do battle on the field.

For those who firmly believe the sources can be, may be, or are - alien - then my god - what if its not? What if it is advanced projects to abduct people, monitor people, generally scare people as well as make a lot of bucks on the cinema and bookstalls?

For those who firmly believe the sources are government, are human, are certainly test aircraft - then my god - what if - what if they are not - they are alien - what purpose they have? why they are here? what they are doing ? how can we stop them?

Step outside your own ideas and experience and look over the other side of the fence or even fences.

Quite simply the original posts point is - that despite anything - there is nothing - nothing at all.

There is countless episodes of unidentified objects in the sky - but there is no proof at all of alien pilots.

Consider the level then involved and effort to

A) Fake all that - and keep the public dreaming of sci fi

B) Hide all that - and keep hard conclusive evidence or budding Fox Mulders blowing the story worldwide

And again sit back a bit and consider what such an event would mean

Confirmation - proof - worldwide - globally - that we are not alone and something advanced and amazing has arrived to meet us - really consider the global implications of that event

What is the most firghtening in that event - is if

if if if if if

You wanted to capture the audience of the earth - capture there hopes and dreams - capture all their pre existing religious ideas - philosophical even - and capture the entire planets hearts and minds..............

Then descending from the stars live on TV would certainly be an Ace in that hand to play

And my god ............. oh my god - what if ..........

It was all to capture those hearts and minds for a new world order

Believe it or not but the first thing confirmation does - is make us all equal - colour race creed or sex - that day we all become equally human beings as we get a new yardstick to measure to

Well done the original poster - its a good idea - and certainly as worthy to consider as any other at this time

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Great post.

I agree that perhaps the "disclosure" everyone wants could usher in the NWO.

Originally posted by agentofchaos
reply to post by Signals

 

Me and 2 other people all witnessed a ufo above a lake in Utah, Beaver. It was above the lake and disappeared before our eyes , idk if it is aliens persay, but there is something going on. If it isn't aliens and we have that kind of technology; we shouldn't be in as a bad a place as we are right now. Besides, can you prove that what me and everyone else sees/saw isn't alien in origin?

The proof rests on the alien claim.

Logic would tell us that interstellar space travel is extremely far-fetched and the cause of UFOs is most likely terrestrial.

Originally posted by Signals
Logic would tell us that interstellar space travel is extremely far-fetched and the cause of UFOs is most likely terrestrial.

Logic tells us no such thing.

It does tell us that Signals has certain (flawed) presuppositions which he can't let go.

Originally posted by liketheplague
The most compelling UFO story for me is the Battle of Los Angeles en.wikipedia.org...

Thousands of people must have seen this and there's no suitable explanation for what the craft was. It was bombarded by anti-air shells for several hours and didn't get taken down. It just stayed there until finally disappearing.

Youd would think skpetics would understand there is absolutely 100% evidence of UFO's which don't make any sense at all of them being from the U.S.government or any other government.They always argue agaisnt common sense.It is common sense that society and alien movies and whatnot can influence the public and influence the people who hoax ufo's.It is not common sense to claim they all are fake and from redneck in trailer parks.Like saying everyone is a liar and murderer in a murder case.Also common sense when studying the UFO phenomenon there is 100% evidence of a cover up of something and lies and you get the run around when you ask government agencies about the subject.Also proven the CIA,FBI and Air force and some portions of the military studied the UFO phenomenon which is provne under Jay Allen Hynek.He said himself thegovernment would not listen to some of the UFO cases and simply gave terrible excuses and absurd explanations for some of the cases.This is where the skeptics ae so stupid at understanding common sense at.Also a UFO that was spotted over Chicago O'hare airport which was described by all the eyewitnesses as a disc shaped oval object somehow becomes an absurd explanation of strange weather phenomenon that does not even fit the description of the eyewitenesses.Well do the skeptics understsand this object was never investigated by the U.S.government and do they understand this object violated national security airspace.We need more intelligent questions and understanding of what real evidence is and to stop argueing over if they are aliens or government.The fact remains the objects are seen and around 10% to 15% are real cases and never properly studied and they keep fighting and argueing over if they are aliens or the government.What difference does it make if someone has saucer shaped technology that can shoot into outer space with no sound and fly at the blink of an eye who is controlling them.First we need to find out who they are and why they are lied about.However it is possible the government sees them and are concerned and scared of them and don't know who they are either .The government may be deeply concerned it could cause alot of media craziness if they tell the public they know they are real.Then it will cause major public reaction and a demanding of telling the public what they know or if they know who they are which could cause the sysem of this world to eventually collaspe.But I think they have done criminal acts with covering this stuff up and that is why they refuse to say anything.

It's interesting that we can enter the airspace of our enemies undetected with only a 30 year technological lead.

Makes you wonder what advantage's 500,000 years of technology would yeild.

The fear of the unknown is probably the most powerful emotion humans share. Safety in numbers bound by the unity of fear.

Often we find that the things we fear the most threaten our preconceived ideas and expectations, but were really no threat at all.

Is anything really impossible ?

I used to be a believer, mainly because i was just reacting to what people were saying. Then I started investigating it deeper and reading sites like this and watching videos, lots of videos.

I have come to the conclusion that it is all hogwash. The more I wanted to believe, the worse the evidence became. We now have some in here accepting Patio Furniture and Bird Droppings as UFOs. It is just more or less entertainment for me now.

Listen to the UFO crap fly here! Ancient proof HA!

All these people are caught in the same illusion as the "birthers" what was the title of that one? Oh ya "do Birthers suffer from advanced delusionary schizophrenia with involuntary narcissistic rage?"

Same could be said for this bunch, come out and say there is no proof and people fly off the handle. Talkin ancient proof, wheres your proof? paintings on a wall from thousands of years ago talking about sun gods, you have to be kidding me. For all you know to those people it could be the original story of the easter bunny.

just reading the title and quickly browsing the post, id have to say the only people are delusional are those who think they are omniscient and believe they KNOW everything there is to know

the most intelligent people, know, they know nothing

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... and then you wake up in their spaceship.

I'll say it again, as a professional sailor I have spent literally thousands of hours looking at the night sky far away from any backlighting. I'm sure none of you spend 8 hours every night looking up at the sky, do you? Well I DO.

I'm telling you, I've seen lots of things that would make your hair stand on end, usually with several other witnesses. UFOs are 100 percent proven to exist. This poster is just claiming they are DEFINITELY NOT aliens. Either they are aliens, or the govt has secret technology that is THOUSANDS of years in advance of what they let out in public. I'm not saying I believe in little green men or anything, but, which one do YOU think is more likely?

If they are aliens in spacecraft, they must remember how THEY freaked out when THEY discovered space travel and had contact with aliens. Therefore they certainly would hide themselves from us, to avoid shocking us. Unless they are rapacious looters like the Europeans were to the Indians. Luckily, they aren't like that or they would have made themselves known to us and taken over the Earth in a day or two.

this is the second time Ive wrote an article and had it disappear on me, it makes me wish this #ing site would burn up for a day or so then come back so i could see whats new? In other words whom ever has control of the timer needs to stretch it out a bit!