All UFO's Are Ours, Aliens Haven't Visited Ever, & Believers Are Possibly Delusional

We are probably the planet around a star that is in a galaxy that floats in a universe that is inside a mole on the back of another living being... Ever think of that and let it boggle your brain???

reply to post by metalholic


I agree. Hip Hop sucks.
2nd line.

ok first thing the nebula here is word for word quote from the book! ("my color is black to the blind but the blue and gold are seen of the seeing") ("blue am i and gold in the light of my bride but the red gleam is in my eyes my spangles are purple and green purple beyond purple it is the light higher then eye sight there is a veil that veil is black it is the veil of the modest woman it is the veil of sorrow and the pall of death this is none of me") now look up nebula 418!

Holy Jesus...that's it, and you are sold?! Wow, really!? A drug addict wrote that while meditating/auto-writing/contacting-other-world-entities, and then you look at the picture of a nebula and say-

CROWLEY MEANT THAT RIGHT THERE! HE WAS RIGHT, HE WAS RIGHT!

Wow man...no wonder Crowley has gotten you so good. Apparently it doesn't take much for you to buy hogwash and hold it close as truth.

Also...black is not a color. I know, small nit-picking, but nontheless....Crowley was a total fool and a sexual pervert on drugs.

now check this out. consider the outcrop of dictatorships only possible when moral growth is in its earliest stages and the prevalence of infantile cults like communism,fascism,pacifism,health crazes,occultism in nearl all its forms religions sentimentalised to the point of practical extinction.

You do know that you didn't even formulate a point there?

It would help if you made conclusions and not just babble on about snippets you misunderstood from a book, all the while making no reference to a real point.

consider the popularity of the cinema the wireless the football pools and guessing competitions all devices for soothing fractious infants no seed of purpose in them consider sport the babyish enthusiasms and rages which it excites whole nations disturbed by the disputes of boys.

This is not new, and had been around for thousands of years before Crowley ever molested his first child or scammed his first sucker into donations.

Unless you never heard of Plato's republic?

And this proves aliens how?

consider war the atrocities which occur daily and leave us unmoved and hardly worried. we are children.

Again, old news and has been for thousands of years. You will find no time where war was taking lightly by those who were not "in said war". History is filled with countless examples of this.

How the hell does this prove aliens!?

observe for yourselves the decay of the sense of sin the growth of innocence and irresponsibility the strange modifications of the reproductive instinct with a tendency to become bi-sexual or epicine.

Again...for thousands of years we have been immoral scum loving the suffering of others as entertainment. Since the dawn of man we have been addicted to "sin" and "destruction".

Is this your way of proving Crowley right? By pointing out that he had a "common grasp" on mankind's decadence?

HOW IS THIS PROOF OF ALIENS!?

need i keep going or get the picture?

No...I got the picture. You apparently have trouble finding proof for your statements and think that randomly plucking badly written passages from Crowley's work somehow lends creditblity to your claims here.

Sorry...you just don't seem to even "understand" Crowley's work, never mind the fact that you clearly don't need much "proof" to sell the family cow to him.

Carry on with your shallow grasp on the finer details of this universe.

Allow Crowley to guide you to the "light of truth".

I'll just sit here and assume that you are lost and easily fooled by scam artists who sell the kind of crap you seem to "need".

Needless to say, your argument here is baseless and has nothing to do with this thread's subject matter. If you are so "alone" with your Crowley worshiping that you desire to interject it anywhere someone will listen, I suggest you join a Crowley club...there are many.

But really...save that nonsense for places where people are "discussing" Crowley, and stop trying to shove it down people's necks while you call them idiots.

Like I said...it is more then apparent that you didn't even "understand" his writings (since you are using these quotes to prove aliens exist when Crowley was very open to suggesting his visions/messages may have come from his own being not somewhere out there).

Gotta love people who jump on the Crowley bandwagon, decades late, while not even knowing what his work was even about.

It surly had nothing to do with proving UFOs.

Good show.

[edit on 5-2-2010 by Mr Mask]

Originally posted by metalholic
reply to post by woodwytch

 

well sounds like you go to bed and waller in ignorance just the way you wrote your whole post sounds like and idiot i hate to sound mean and invigorating but "crowley sounds like somethin i wouldnt want to read" huh...judge a book by its cover much?

sounds like you need to do some reading you obviously dont know anything about what your talking about to even have an opinion! you have to know facts and know of the situation other then he did drugs to have an opinion and you havent even picked up a book of his! so therefore you know nothing but hearsay and ozzy was and is a bigger drug head then crowley even crowley on his death bed had more of brain then that babling fool...and on the contrary Dio is better then Ozzy!

oh, stop please my sides hurt

So wrong on every level sugar ... but be happy in the safety of your ignorance.

Oh by the by ... I actually own a first edition copy of 'Gems From The Equinox' (been in my possession since the mid 80's) ... and 'Magick in Theory & Practice' (both as you will doubtless know, are works of your hero)

You would do well to stop making sweeping assumptions and churlish insults ... it only serves to make you look even sillier than you already do.

And please, don't ever make the mistake of presuming you know anything about me again (that would just be silly of you) ... whatever your little mind could possibly imagine ... trust me ... you would be oh so wrong !

Might I suggest that you try to resist a 'clever' comeback ... because I have a little more experience in these matters than you it would seem ... and I refuse to play a petty game of witches and warlocks with a novice who has ideas above his station, just for your amusement ... development dear boy, comes from the knowing of when to be quiet ... have you developed that far yet ? (this is a retorical question and I do not require a written answer).

Woodwytch

reply to post by JayinAR


Thanks Jay, I accept. I am familiar with one of those threads (yours) and it was a good one. Give me some time to explore those other links (I was voted to be cook tonight) and I will respond.

I know the root of your feelings is and was the title. I have admitted it was sensational and sarcastic. After all the feedback, I even tried to go back and change "Delusional Phonies" to "Possibly Delusional" as the PC bug got to me...But as you know you only have a certain amount of time (24 hrs. I think???) to edit a post. I suppose I could request that from a Mod, but I think it weakens my stance. And I've already been accused of that several times here...

FYI when I changed the title before, from "Fake" to "Ours" I honestly meant to convey ours from the beginning. Usually I obsess over exact wording in an OP but I just had a spark and threw this out there. Many may think I'm a knucklehead but I'm not dumb....UFO's are a widely accepted and a recognized phenomenon.

My intention from the beginning has been to hopefully wake people up to the fact that alien visitation (not UFO's mind you) is a theory, and should be treated as such.

I didn't help the situation with my responses...but I am an admitted sarcastic jerk at times...at least that's what every woman I've been with & my current wife have said .

reply to post by Mr Mask


ok first off i'm not 100% sold on crowley so your nowhere near anything on me with that i dont think he knew everything and i dont take him as a prophet!

secondly if your going to judge crowley wheres your proof he molested children? he was married had sexual experiences with her other women and was bi-sexual! so therefore he had sexual experiences with men but children? no! child molestation goes back to ancient history! the greeks,romans and other ancient societies would have sex with boys and only have sex with there wives to reproduce so a man having sex with a 8 or 13 yrs old boy was socially accepted!

jerry lee lewis was an adult man who married his 13 or 14 yr old cousin THATS A CHILD MOLESTER..prove crowley was! also crowleys reputation was built by christians as always anyone different or have different views of the universe are always devil worshippin satanists!
remember christians!! they are the root behind anyones bad reputation who writes books or starts an occult thats not based on the bible or there god!

i'll continue in another post after i go back and see what else i gotta type about!

There actually is no such thing as an "Alien".

Think about it for a second.

"They" who have TRILLIONS of dollars in their possessions have SO MUCH ADVANCED technology that the average person would think it HAS to come from outer space.

This same "phenomena" has happened in ancient times as well.

The government and black op projects have ALWAYS been HUNDREDS of years ahead of the public, so even a couple "thousand" years ago the alien drawings could in fact have been people who saw a normal plane and thought it must be from the Gods.

The education of the world is declining and the majority are kept stupid on purpose. The people that are in power have BEEN in power for thousands of years.

See the Babylonian Bloodlines that run the world today, hence, why all the people in charge of countries are in some shape or form related via bloodlines.

There's no such thing as aliens.

For those that say, "Oh but the universe is vast we can't be the only ones."

Actually yes we are the only ones, but we don't even exist to begin with. See Quantum Physics and their new discoveries. Everything in the Universe is PERCEPTION.

It's hard to comprehend because your Ego is playing tricks on you, but none of us exist at this moment in time. There's no time. This is a Virtual Reality.

The Truth is Always stranger than Fiction.

G'day.....

Not that it's really all that important.....

I notice we have parallel Crowley discussions going.

I only mention this in case anybody over here is interested in the other thread over there (brief as is it is so far).

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not

Originally posted by JayinAR
Dio sucks.
2nd line.

I don't mind Dio myself ... just depends on the mood I suppose.

Woody

reply to post by Mr Mask


oh yeah and i never said that book was proof that there are aliens i simply said read the book and then do some research on it i'm sorry if i came off as that book is proof but it is more proof the half the retarded threads on here about reptillians and invasions from zeta reticuli...crowleys book has more weight and i would even argue that crowleys book has more weight then people think!

but i'm not going to argue any longer with someone who has there mind made up as you cant teach a blind man to see and you can lead horse to water but you cant make it drink!

OK Folks let's Stop the Personal Sniping and Off Topic remarks, Please.

All UFO's Are Ours, Aliens Haven't Visited Ever, & Believers Are Delusional Phonies

Originally posted by Archirvion
Are you working for nasa? cause this is a stupid post you have here..former nasa members ect has given proof of the existense for a long time ago. Some of our members died this recently..got killed by FBI.. So i suggest you read the guidelines of being on this webpage before posting something stupid. You may be our guest to repost it on a "my opinion" post. But everyone has the fact about ufos. if you are a normal human being with a wish of posting something of your own,please mark it different cause this is very foolish. Ufos has had 73 landings on tellus the last 6months. Talk to the media, they are used for giving out info wich are false at most times. We on ATS gather and often loose our lives getting info like this,wich are TOP-Secret.

Just think about it,If u are former nasa,you can tell your superviser we allready are sitting on the copy. If you are a regular human,please go somewhere else.

Thanks for evening chuckles!

I never said I was a regular human! What is regular?

Am I working for Nasa? If I was I would concentrate on how humankind has benefited from missions...for example modern computers, velcro, stuff like that, to try & get that money back. And I would flood MSM with positive ads. And I would call for the firing of everyone associated with the NASA channel, talk about boring. But I digress.

This is the second time someone has brought up the thread & tragic story of one of our members being killed by agents. I have studied that thread and tried my own search to discover the member to no avail...WHAT DOES THIS THREAD HAVE TO DO WITH THAT for God's sake??

reply to post by Signals


I would say that it was more than over the top and sensational.
In fact, I would say it was downright insulting.

reply to post by woodwytch


alot of that stuff like the book of the equinox of the gods is just what he was thinking as he was writing book of the law it kind of like it gives you an inside perspective of what he was thinking..the other books though like book4 and what not are about meditation and stuff like that but if you take 777 and book of the law and just go by both them books and actually look things up and what not its funny how alot of things are more relative then one would think

i was kinda skeptical getting into his work as his reputation makes someone not knowing weary but after reading it and what nots its actually pretty interesting you can take things out of that book and find relevance in places you wouldnt of thought see i didnt read it and think what a load of crap or ok and put it on a shelf i read it read it again and again you cant take anyhting it says for face value you got to actually do some digging and thats where things samck you in the face or it done me...i went into it and came out with an open mind so i never was blind..

if there even was anyhting to be blind to!

Originally posted by metalholic


ok first off i'm not 100% sold on crowley so your nowhere near anything on me with that i dont think he knew everything and i dont take him as a prophet!

Oh...I'm sorry. I thought "you" coming in here and calling people "idiots of the herd" and then pointing to Crowley's work's as proof that the OP was wrong, somehow showed you were sure of what you were saying.

My mistake.

I didn't expect you to be a "half-way Crowley" sort of guy. I guess I should have known seeing as you misunderstood all his paragraphs that you have posted thus far.

secondly if your going to judge crowley wheres your proof he molested children?

Showing your lack of information on Crowley again, eh? Fine,since I have read most of his works (and his diary), Ill share with you a direct quote from his diary. Unlike Crowley's drug induced psycho-babble, you will not misunderstand this one-

From Crowley's diary-

" Rose Kelly hath given Her two year old bastard boy to her lover’s whim of sodomy...She hath tounged Her five-month old girl, and asked its father to deflower it."

Add to that Crowley's infatuation with (and constant comparing of himself to) child rapist and murderer Giles "Bluebeard"de Rias. You really do not need to search hard to find this information.

In fact, you would have to try really hard to miss this sort of information if you were one to study Crowley.

I'm sure you just read "the parts" you wanted to read?

he was married had sexual experiences with her other women and was bi-sexual! so therefore he had sexual experiences with men but children? no!

But yes! Your hero liked children in a sexual fashion.

But you probably know this since you sort of drift to rationalizing the act by adding-

child molestation goes back to ancient history! the greeks,romans and other ancient societies would have sex with boys and only have sex with there wives to reproduce so a man having sex with a 8 or 13 yrs old boy was socially accepted!

And Crowley accepted! That's your hero!

jerry lee lewis was an adult man who married his 13 or 14 yr old cousin THATS A CHILD MOLESTER..prove crowley was!

Read his diary. Its easy to get ahold of. It also details that he ate feces and deficated on the floor to make it "sanctified".

Yeah...you sure sound like a level headed guy (as you clearly said you were).

And yet...you stick up for Crowley's madness.

also crowleys reputation was built by christians as always anyone different or have different views of the universe are always devil worshippin satanists!

Did Christians also "make up the fact" that he bragged about selling his soul to Satan, and that he was a perverted sexual deviant who hailed all forms of debuachery and sin as "holy"?

remember christians!! they are the root behind anyones bad reputation who writes books or starts an occult thats not based on the bible or there god!

Level headed again?

So...a group of people who worship something you find "wrong" is the reason this "poop eating, child molesting, devil worshiping, mad man" got a bad rep? I see...those damn Christians!

i'll continue in another post after i go back and see what else i gotta type about!

I'm good...no need to continue with me. I have met so many people who follow Crowley but don't know a damn thing about him. I am in no rush to see you going further to turn my stomach on the subject.

What I would like, is for you (and any Crowley follower) to stop bringing his name up every chance you get in places that have nothing to do with the guy. I mean comon man...this is a thread about UFOs...not "child molesting perverts on drugs who swindle money from everyone they can and then end up dying of an STD while they find themselves penniless and sucking off the bank accounts of lovers".

Really man...stop acting like you got proof or insight on this matter.

It is easy to see you haven't read much about the guy at all.

UFOs and ALIENS! Not Crowley! That is the thread's subject. And though you stated before that Crowley's work proves the OP wrong, you have done nothing to show this.

Boo to you.

And boo to Dio.



[edit on 5-2-2010 by Mr Mask]

reply to post by Mr Mask


i only read a couple of books and i dont care that much about him to do all this big wonderful background life and times of the man as you did obviously your the bigger fan here i'm only interested in the other stuff like book of the law and 777 magick maybe that equinox of the gods but you..YOU you seem to be into it all!

as far as child molestation and the greeks and romans i only know that because my teacher who went to college for history told me that as we were watching a midnight summers dream! which is shakespeare!

i only mention crowley and the book because its interesting and if you do enough diggin on things in it there are alot of relevance...i'm not interested in the life and times as you seem to have been! so there fore whose the bigger crowley fan?

reply to post by metalholic


You're right.
Crowley was the man and Metal Rules!!!


My problem with "metal fans" is that it seems that they have no appreciation for anything else.

And I honestly don't give two craps about Crowley.
No offense or anything, but I don't tend to like something because it "bucks the trend".
Honestly I feel as if I grew out of that phase like 10 years ago.
And I'm not even 30 just yet!

reply to post by Mr Mask


" Rose Kelly hath given Her two year old bastard boy to her lover’s whim of sodomy...She hath tounged Her five-month old girl, and asked its father to deflower it."

i cannot deny that rose kelly at one point was his wife but do you really believe this? and lets say its true do you believe he done it? has he admitted to it? since your the one interested in the life and times!

reply to post by metalholic


Well, I had planned to ignore you but now you are posting with some civility I'll respond.

I will offer credit where credit is due ... Crowley's work is not the easiest stuff to read so if you really have read him, then you deserve a pat on the back for determination.

However, I'm afraid I will never have anything positive to say about him as a man (and I do use the term loosley), so we must beg to differ on this point. If you do some research about him you will see that most of what is said is actually true (including the child abuse), this was one of the reasons he moved abroad. And I personally cannot condone the things he did.

This also applies to his occult practices ... his approach is the total opposite to mine ... his approach jars against all of my nerves individually ... my opinion of him remains that he was the most vile of creatures ... on every level but that is my personal opinion and you must form your own.

But to form a true opinion you need to do as much research as you can ... if you can read his books then you should find the research a doddle.

One thing I will say is that when Page / Osbourne and others like them were 'into' Crowley, it is because it was the 'cool' thing of the day ... and they were rockers for godsake what could be more extreme and rebellious than being adherents of the 'King of the Witches' ... and don't forget that the kind of drugs those guys were on sent them tripping to lala land and beyond.

So don't think for a minute they understood much of what they proclaimed to be following. Although it would be true to say that Page and the other Zepplin band members were pretty serious about it. They even carried-out a very complicated and potent ritual of Crowley's, that nearly ended Page ... at the Crowley house that he owned, on the banks of the scottish loch.

Besides that I could not be doing with his arrogance and ego ... that goes against the traditional path that I follow ... a path that has been around a lot longer than Mr Crowley !

And to bring this post back on topic I have to agree with 'Mr Mask' ... when he says that Crowley is a poor example to hold up for proof of alien existence ... it was a sketch he made 'under the influence'.

Woody