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Truther Movement Can't Be Stopped

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posted on Jan, 28 2010 @ 12:00 PM
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reply to post by Jnewell33
 


The "majority of the country" is not a realistic statement, unless using it to provide a dramatic statement. But again, its low on fact if thats the case. The people who ask questions do so for a variety of reasons regarding their theories or beliefs of what happened on 911. One fact is evident, the OS (911 Report) is a lie and it was developed under pressure. Thats the fact of the matter. The OS was never intended to be evidentuary in nature or it's conclusion but many OS backers have falsely assumed this role of the 911 report. In short, its a false argument to claim that the OS backs the events on 911. This is a basic failure with anyone who defends the OS.



posted on Jan, 28 2010 @ 12:05 PM
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How dare the media and the government ignore these people, who lost their loved ones on 911...

Why are they not getting answers for the questions, so they can have some peace??
Why is the media ignoring their fight for the truth? Like in October 2009 the New York court stopped their inquiry.

their homepages..
The fight continues in 2010, the revolution will not be broadcast on MSM
nyccan.org...
voteforanswersnh.com...



posted on Jan, 28 2010 @ 12:11 PM
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The answer and solution are quite simple.

I think that it should be MANDATORY LAW that if you believe the official story of 9/11 then you should have your rights removed and the constitution should NOT apply to you because the government is trying to keep you safe.

So they make you safer from the goons in the Middle East and take your rights away.

And everyone who thinks 9/11 was an inside job (which it is, and whoever doesn't see common sense is in denial) should be left alone, and have the full backing of the Constitution.

Sounds fair to me.



posted on Jan, 28 2010 @ 12:18 PM
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here here. good idea. I'll go a step further.
Anyone who Desires the government to protect them live in one group of states. Everybody else who can provide their own security live in another group.

pilotsfor911truth.org...



posted on Jan, 28 2010 @ 12:20 PM
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This may be a totally ignorant question....but...

I've never heard of what plane/flight # hit the pentagon. Nor how many passengers were aboard etc. Do you all know? Maybe its just something I missed...



posted on Jan, 28 2010 @ 12:30 PM
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I certainly disagree with your Truther mess, though your war for oil stuff is prolly pretty accurate.

The main problem is that NONE of these guys will ever be brought to trial.

So, pretty much, game over.



posted on Jan, 28 2010 @ 12:31 PM
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well, this is a very asshole-y thing to say.

Agree with you or lose our rights... sounds like a certain ex-President...



posted on Jan, 28 2010 @ 12:40 PM
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Honestly I have a nagging notion that none of them will be brought to justice either and that saddens me about our country. But, I'm at least willing to keep the quest for truth going. I believe its right and for the right reasons.



posted on Jan, 28 2010 @ 12:47 PM
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well, belief is ok, faith is less productive...



posted on Jan, 28 2010 @ 01:16 PM
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truthers rule and trolls drool .. rock on and when the truth comes out hang the bastards for treason and war crimes
... 9/11 was an inside job for profit and war against the american people by the criminal zionist movement .. we are getting closer and closer to the truth and they know it this was posted two weeks ago and they took it down already but if you search google caches for

jewishcrimenetworkdid911.blogspot.com...

it is still there ... the best most accurate description of the power players behind the scenes that day

the truth...

all i can say is when the truth comes out I will be giving away lawnchairs, binoculars and popcorn at the public hangings in DC that day


[edit on 28-1-2010 by troll killer]



posted on Jan, 28 2010 @ 01:29 PM
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Originally posted by troll killer
truthers rule and trolls drool .. rock on and when the truth comes out hang the bastards for treason and war crimes
... 9/11 was an inside job for profit and war against the american people by the criminal zionist movement .. we are getting closer and closer to the truth and they know it this was posted two weeks ago and they took it down already but if you search google caches for

jewishcrimenetworkdid911.blogspot.com...

it is still there ... the best most accurate description of the power players behind the scenes that day

the truth...

all i can say is when the truth comes out I will be giving away lawnchairs, binoculars and popcorn at the public hangings in DC that day


[edit on 28-1-2010 by troll killer]


Do you think, on balance, that the only thing that Hitler did wrong was that he didn't go far enough?



posted on Jan, 28 2010 @ 01:31 PM
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Originally posted by zz0409
This may be a totally ignorant question....but...

I've never heard of what plane/flight # hit the pentagon. Nor how many passengers were aboard etc. Do you all know? Maybe its just something I missed...


Here you go
lmgtfy.com...

Maybe they all got new identeties... Maybe someone on ATS has seen one of the passengers

[edit on 28-1-2010 by conar]



posted on Jan, 28 2010 @ 01:31 PM
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Originally posted by TrickoftheShade

Originally posted by troll killer
truthers rule and trolls drool .. rock on and when the truth comes out hang the bastards for treason and war crimes
... 9/11 was an inside job for profit and war against the american people by the criminal zionist movement .. we are getting closer and closer to the truth and they know it this was posted two weeks ago and they took it down already but if you search google caches for

jewishcrimenetworkdid911.blogspot.com...

it is still there ... the best most accurate description of the power players behind the scenes that day

the truth...

all i can say is when the truth comes out I will be giving away lawnchairs, binoculars and popcorn at the public hangings in DC that day


[edit on 28-1-2010 by troll killer]


Do you think, on balance, that the only thing that Hitler did wrong was that he didn't go far enough?

uh no hitler was funded and backed by the rothschilds ...
second line ... do your homework

[edit on 28-1-2010 by troll killer]



posted on Jan, 28 2010 @ 01:39 PM
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So? My question's got nothing to do with who funded him.

I'm wondering whether you think he went far enough? You think that jews are behind all this, and that the answer is a vicious mass murder spree which you can sit back and watch and enjoy. So I was just asking whether you think that one of the last people who tried that solution did it with, you know, enough finality.



posted on Jan, 28 2010 @ 01:47 PM
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Right after 911 the first thing the government did was inact the (Patriot Act), to which was VERY UNPatriotic.
An attempt to steal or rights. However the Patriot Act was written before 911. The Towers as we now know where full of asbestos, which would have cost litterly tons of money to remediate. So it was a big problem.
The Pentagon was supposedly struck by an 747. You would think that they Pentagon might have a few Security Cameras on site. Not to mention, all the Security Cameras in local business's. Show me one photo of the airplane that hit it. But there IS NOT ONE. Huh thats wierd. Also our country has The Airforce has jet fighters to protect us from such "attacks" and hijackings. Except for that One day, they where a lil busy. No offense to the Air Force. GOVT was running a lil War Games Simulation that very day. Huh? Also there was a hurricane just of the coast of New York that day, but you probabley never herd about that. Also where was the pile of rubble from the TOWERS, there should have been a Gigantic pile of Concrete and Steel beams and all the contents of the buildings. That was because of Jet fuel Vaporized the entire buildings and set what lil ruble was left neatly in the foot print. Cmon. What about the explosions in the building that occured before and after the airplanes hit. I guess those fireman was suffering from auditory hallucinations. As well as the people that where there when it all happened. Look I love this Country, I am Patriotic, I support the Troops. But lets face the facts. War is profitable.
Its a business. The Government which spends more money on defense, than it does anything else, would spend just a small percentage of that money. We could provide CLEAN DRINKING WATER to the entire planet.
Build a renewable food sources for the entire planet. Shelter every man woman and child. Stop dropping bombs on everyone including US, the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. I am tired of the Chem TRAILS, that are full of toxic Aluminum and BORON. Its Boron you moron. One way to stop them is dont buy there toxic products, like TOOTHPASTE (Floride) Fake SUGARs, Toxic toys, dont waste your gas, either. Rember God is the Judge, and your soul is eternal. Heaven and hell are real. And JESUS IS THE ONLY FRIEND YOU EVER HAD WHO DIED AND WENT TO HELL AND BACK FOR YOU.
HEs coming back AFTER THE ANTICHRIST comes to earth.
Not before. After. ONLY hes not going to be a lamb this time, he will be like a LION.



posted on Jan, 28 2010 @ 01:56 PM
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Originally posted by TrickoftheShade
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So? My question's got nothing to do with who funded him.

I'm wondering whether you think he went far enough? You think that jews are behind all this, and that the answer is a vicious mass murder spree which you can sit back and watch and enjoy. So I was just asking whether you think that one of the last people who tried that solution did it with, you know, enough finality.


uh i said no the first time you asked..or do you have another agenda..?? its obvious that you seem to think the answer is yes to your own question as you seem to answered it yourself and of course that doesn't matter one little bit ..everybody is entitled to their own opinion as wrong as it may be ... now if you will pay attention and quit trying to change the subject ...

typical troll .. deny the truth, inflect inflammatory conjecture, sway the topic of the masses ..yeah yeah whatever ...

did you read my name ..??



posted on Jan, 28 2010 @ 02:17 PM
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Orwell rolls in his grave.

"War is Peace"
"Freedom Is Slavery"
"Ignorance is Strength"

In today's doublethink:
Truth is Bad
Lies are Good
ergo..
Truthers are bad
Liars are Good
ergo..
The opposite of Truth is a Lie
The opposite of a Truther is a Liar



To know and not to know, to be conscious of complete truthfulness while telling carefully constructed lies, to hold simultaneously two opinions which canceled out, knowing them to be contradictory and believing in both of them, to use logic against logic, to repudiate morality while laying claim to it, to believe that democracy was impossible and that the Party was the guardian of democracy, to forget, whatever it was necessary to forget, then to draw it back into memory again at the moment when it was needed, and then promptly to forget it again, and above all, to apply the same process to the process itself -- that was the ultimate subtlety; consciously to induce unconsciousness, and then, once again, to become unconscious of the act of hypnosis you had just performed. Even to understand the word 'doublethink' involved the use of doublethink.[1]

Doublethink



posted on Jan, 28 2010 @ 04:51 PM
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Why is the only opposite of truth a lie? Can't a mistake be just as erroneous as a lie and still not be the truth? Can't people be wrong and still not be lying?

There appears to be a very strong desire in the "truth movement" to brand people liars. What pleasure do you derive from accusing people of lying? Does it make you feel morally superior? Or perhaps if you have to admit people may be wrong, then you have to admit to yourself that you may also be incorrect. Or is just easier to understand reality by just declaring everyone "over there" liars and eveyone over here as "truth holders"?



posted on Jan, 28 2010 @ 05:20 PM
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There appears to be a very strong desire in the "truth movement" to brand people liars.


There is a very strong "anti-truth movement" that brands truth seekers as terrorists, Nazis, dangerous, fools, deluded, deranged ......
I'm sure you've read the posts before, and seen Fox news Beck et al.



Why is the only opposite of truth a lie?


If someone who claims to be knowledgable is promoting a non-truth, it is a lie.
If they are ignorant, they should do research, and not post when they don't
do enough background research to know better.



posted on Jan, 29 2010 @ 06:37 AM
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Originally posted by troll killer

uh i said no the first time you asked..or do you have another agenda..??


You said

uh no hitler was funded and backed by the rothschilds


which implies that your only problem with him is that he was funded by jews. So you didn't really answer my question about whether he went far enough.

And given that you introduced the subject of jewish conspiracies into this thread I don't think I'm straying very far from the topic.



its obvious that you seem to think the answer is yes to your own question as you seem to answered it yourself and of course that doesn't matter one little bit ..everybody is entitled to their own opinion as wrong as it may be ... now if you will pay attention and quit trying to change the subject ...


You changed the subject. This thread doesn't really have a single focus - even its title is vague.

I just pointed out that

-- you think evil jews are behind everything wrong with the world

-- you want to organise a huge, violent purge of them and their subordinates

-- you want people to participate in that purge and enjoy it.

Now which of those notions also applied to Hitler?

Ah. All of them.

So I don't think I'm far wrong in calling you a nazi.


typical troll .. deny the truth, inflect inflammatory conjecture, sway the topic of the masses ..yeah yeah whatever ...


Oh yeah and

-- anyone who disagrees is an enemy of the people. Dissent is not tolerated.

AH liked that one too.


did you read my name ..??


Perhaps you should just drop the second word. Or go for something more blatantly anti-semitic.



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