At Least 7 Dead, 12 Wounded in Shooting at Ft. Hood in Texas

reply to post by m khan


Every contract is for 8 years.

Didn't know that did you.

It's totally possible for one shooter to kill eleven people in the building this took place in. It's nearly a shooting gallery once you go through the door on the soldiers entry point.

Originally posted by j2000
reply to post by sealteamsix

 

I was in the AF in the 80's. I watched many things that did not even make local news. You think terrorists were not around back then? ha

To add.

Of course back then we had but one enemy, the Commies! well, and a few mideast types.

Now we have these Muslim extremist and the Commies are in Congress.
Hard fighting on both sides of the fence.

reply to post by Meesterjojo


Hey, I just thought of this: Terrorism = John mohammed (dc sniper), shot single shot from HIDING, ran and hid like coward.

Psycho = Hassan and others, (Virg. Tech., columbine, et al), run into crowd, start shooting, maybe think/try to run/hide? get smoked by cops, gets captured, etc...

What do you think?

maybe he's not terrorist?

Final Question, does it matter if he's a T or P, he should die soon!

One thing I have noticed that ALL of the P's have Phychological connections (either treated or treater), what needs to be done is a examination of the Psychology Professions!!!

I picked out the bio book (from public library) of Sigmond Freud, (I always skim the first chapter or so, including pub. dates/publisher/etc. then the last chapt. or so, including any epilogs/extras/interviews, etc in the back)
and SURPRISE, SURPRISE, SURPRISE!, (ref. to Gomer Pyle), There was an interview, and the last quest. asked to Siggie was, Do you have any regrets in life?
He said (from my memory, not verbatum) "The only regret is that I have NEVER CURED ANYONE OF ANYTHING in my ENTIRE CAREER".

go figure!?!

Psychology/psychologists CANNOT "CURE" ANYTHING! they can only treat symptoms, yet they are, IN OUR CULTURE, portrayed as 'CURERS" of psychosis!

Ya think T.V. has something to do with this?

Anyway, I'm done.Discuss....

Originally posted by STFUPPERCUTTER
so ona daily basis soldiers go into other countries, kill as many if not more innocent people and its no big deal.
but when they do it in your backyard , now its a huge news story and a tragedy.
makes sense to me.

It's a tragedy because those are our soldiers killing our soldiers, their allies, not their enemies, not their targets, or whatever you'd prefer to call them, but their allies.

Here is a strange connection with the shooter. While investigating 9/11, I came across a Phd in Mechanical Engineering, Judy Wood, www.judywood.com. She filed suit, questioning the NIST report as to the cause of the WTC 7 building collapse.

Shortly after she filed suit, to have NIST correct, the Virgina Tech shooting occured and in that tragedy, the shooter, got her research assistant, killing him. The shooter focused his attack, on the Engineering building and killed himself. The shooter's eyes in the photo look like he is a Manchurian Candidate.

Now today, Maj. Hasan, who hated firearms and violence, may have been setup. His profile is inconsistant with his training and personality. Being a Major, he would not have been on the front line and now Iraq is not a hot spot like Afghanistan.

He was trained in biochemistry at Virginia Tech. Odd coincidence. Virginia Tech is near Langley, Va. CIA headquarters.

Like I said, things don't add up.

Maybe the objective is to take attention away from the healthcare bill. Distract America, get us to ralley around the flag, defend our women and children from those bastard muslims. Lockdown a city of 35,000 and blame the moslems. meantime healthcare bill designed to destroy what is left of America passes

reply to post by m khan


OF COURSE! How ingenious!

They tell some guy to go on a rampage and kill a bunch of people so they can distract us then destroy the government!

Did Pelosi put him in a room and say, "hey listen, we got this health care bill to pass, we need a distraction, can you waste a bunch of your buddies for us so we can really screw America over? Thanks, your a trooper!"

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Dude, how many conspiracies you going to throw at this thing?

Pick one and stick to it.

Odd‚how fast this story is moving we go from multiple shooters to now only one.This has a distinct smell to it .I don't know but I feel there is more going on ...

Originally posted by m khan
Maybe it is time for legislation limiting the military from forcing reinlistment. It seems like once a person has agreed to military service that their servitude is forever and they are never allowed to say no, no matter how it destroys their personal lives. Soldiers are citizens too. They have a right to life liberty and the persuit of happiness. If they sign a contract for a certain number of years, probably three, then they should be allowed to say no after that.

The guy chose his career and signed on for his position. Specialized in military training related syndromes. He achieved a high rank.

There are mechanisms for requesting transfers and reallocations. Mechanisms for preferences based on religious and political affiliations. Mechanisms for having a contract be terminated.

He was a shrink. He would know all the ways to maneuvre he system to go somewhere else or get out.

There is a degree of premeditation from indicators so far.
There's probably an extended back story about to emerge. This is not someone who just snapped.


M

It wouldn't be hard to believe that he was injected with a rage inducing syrum of some sort without himself knowing it, handed a gun by some CIA guys and the obvious outcome would be that he used the gun. Maybe his comments made him a good target for them to frame him?

Doesn't take much to push a man to killing another...

Sane people have thought's of hurting one another every day without acting on them...

That jerk who cut you off in traffic? Your piece of crap boss? Co worker's who annoy you?

Not that him killing those people were justified... but the U.S. has a vast history of violence... And It becomes a big deal when It happens at a military facility? It happens more then most would like to believe. Maybe I have become desensitized by news like this...but honestly I had a feeling something like this would happen.

Military installations are structured to break you down and build you back up Into it's image of what It thinks you should be...a highly skilled/trained killing machine...looks like It's working!!!

I only read first few thread posts and was thinking exactly like Zosynspiracy who predicted what I just read on Faux: Muslim gunmen tired of the War on Terror.


A set up using a loose screw to make anyone who doesn't agree with US wars or Obama's apparent feet dragging seen as a total nut job???...back to reading.

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I'll say this has something to do with Israel attacking Iran, I wouldn't be surprised to see Israel attack Iran this weekend, now that Saudi Arabia is on the offensive against Yemeni rebels. Things are beginning to stir, and the global awareness is going to rise acccording to time wave zero... the Iran protests don't seem to have worked out... so the only other option is to attack Iran it seems and the American Public has to be softened up by this type of incident. You'll see a better reception for a war against Iran after today.

Originally posted by UnderTheirRadar


Military installations are structured to break you down and build you back up Into it's image of what It thinks you should be...a highly skilled/trained killing machine...looks like It's working!!!

I know what you mean. I live on a military installation and every time I look out my window at my neighbors flower garden I want to throw on my ninja outfit and kill something.

Why must these installations be such hell!!!!

edit to add a b to neighbors.

[edit on 5-11-2009 by Bored To Tears]

Originally posted by hungrydirt
So, because one woman claims there is an MK-Ultra seeding site near Virginia Tech, that must explain all of the horrific things that have happened there, right? And Hasan graduated in 1997. Twelve years ago. I wonder how many ghastly people graduated from the University of Washington, Ted Bundy's alma mater? I mean, there must be a secret government installation near by that's making people murder and rape. Oh yeah, Amanda Knox, the young woman who murdered her roommate abroad; she's also attended UW! Two high-profile murderers from the same school! It's a conspiracy!

Except both of these people from tech killed more than 10 people and both injured many more in a single act of suicidal open violence, and both events seemed like they had more going on than was being reported, or media reports are already contradictory and not clear.

Originally posted by mthans75

He was trained in biochemistry at Virginia Tech. Odd coincidence. Virginia Tech is near Langley, Va. CIA headquarters.

Like I said, things don't add up.

Um...Tech is not near Langley PER MAPQUEST it's 289.65 miles and 4 hours 49 minutes hours away, that's like saying Washington DC is near New York City.

Langley in the Hampton Roads Area near the East shore of VA and Tech is way west in Blacksburg VA in the Mountains near the WVA Border.

The way you mentioned it sound like there in the same vicinity. They are not close. Stop trying to make your own conspiracy theory about Tech and CIA. Nice Try Buddy. Perhaps you should have done some research first.

And yes I've been to both. I used to live on Langley AFB and My Sister in law was at Tech during the Massacre and had to drive to pick her up because she was too emotional to drive herself back here..

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[edit on 11/5/09 by Djdoubt03]

Originally posted by mthans75
Here is a strange connection with the shooter. While investigating 9/11, I came across a Phd in Mechanical Engineering, Judy Wood, www.judywood.com. She filed suit, questioning the NIST report as to the cause of the WTC 7 building collapse.

Shortly after she filed suit, to have NIST correct, the Virgina Tech shooting occured and in that tragedy, the shooter, got her research assistant, killing him. The shooter focused his attack, on the Engineering building and killed himself. The shooter's eyes in the photo look like he is a Manchurian Candidate.

Now today, Maj. Hasan, who hated firearms and violence, may have been setup. His profile is inconsistant with his training and personality. Being a Major, he would not have been on the front line and now Iraq is not a hot spot like Afghanistan.

He was trained in biochemistry at Virginia Tech. Odd coincidence. Virginia Tech is near Langley, Va. CIA headquarters.

Like I said, things don't add up.

One. If it was a hit, why didn't they kill the one who filed the suit? Why did they let it become public knowledge that said suit was filed? Why did Cho kill a German Professor? Was said Professor a member of the Vril Society?
Two. Can you show me a picture of an authentic "Manchurian Candidates eyes"?
Three. Can you prove by Hasan's own admission that he hated firearms and violence?
Four. Roughly 1.4 million Virginians live approximately the same distance from Blacksburg to Langley. Why aren't more government-complicit mass murderers form the Commonwealth?

Originally posted by JJay55

Muslims have a duty to kill us. Especially since we moved into Afghanistan. Fard ayn is an obligation of muslims to act out and attack us with any means they can. This guy will admit to this, just like the muslim who ran his daughter down in an honor killing also in Texas a few weeks ago. Many cases and growing rapidly in the US.

Alright. I was going to keep my yap shut and stay cool, but the constant bombardment of "Fard ayn" got the better of me.

I remember you from other threads. You go about trying to school muslims about islam. You like to throw around arabic words as if you know their meanings. Taqqiya. Fard ayn (just so you'll know for future reference, it's actually "fard al-ayn" - that will allow you to sound more scholarly).

Do you know what "taqiyya" is? You generally use it properly, so you may. Hint: it applies to the Shia branch of islam, and is shunned by sunnis.

Do you know what fard al-ayn is? You generally use that one in an extremely limited sense, as if it just means "kill infidels", which tells me that you probably don't know as much about islam as you let on. Hint: it's much broader than your usage.

With that said, we have dead soldiers, and damn little info to go on, but a steady trickle coming out, and you want to jump the gun and go all manner of jihad on the muslim community, without any facts to back yourself up, only suppositions, and a thoroughly restricted view of islam.

One size does not fit all. Just as there are christians in name only, who don't follow the teachings but like to look good in church on sunday, there are muslims who aren't all that hard corps for the brand of islam you preach. And even at that, your brand is quite narrow.

Rather than dishonoring the dead by using this as an excuse to get on your soapbox again, bury the dead, mourn the loss, let the investigators do their job rather than jumping to conclusions. You could perhaps use the time to do some investigation of your own, maybe get a firmer grounding in what you preach. I guarantee you'd be a LOT more effective preaching against it if you knew what you were talking about.

There's always tomorrow to hate. Don't burn it all up today.

On a side note, you are correct that islam can be very difficult to get out of, if certain elements are made aware that one is apostate. You are correct that some muslims can only be killed to be cured of radicalism.

Ask me how I know. Hint: I know what fard al-ayn means. No, I'm not a muslim.


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