Iran has brought down an unidentified shining object over the Persian Gulf

reply to post by hotrodturbo7

After all, who would want Israeli missles crashing through when you are having a parade to show off how bad-ass your gear is? Kinda makes you look silly...

I doubt that is the case, BUT........didn't Russia intervene a few months ago when Israel planned to shoot down some high tech airshow planes? They tipped off Iran, who subsequently cancelled the air show, and now today they have an airshow with two "events"??

So, maybe the Mahdi returns to protect Irans nuclear facilities and Iran shoots one of them down

I've often wondered if the so called Mahdi are actually from Draco. The Iranian flag has a strong resemblance to a horned Dragon. To me anyway.

Actually, I would think a Draco or reptillian craft would look more like a Wraith craft.

reply to post by FreezeM


Like I said many times before, when I was a child in Iran we always saw a LOT of UFOs (bright sphere glowing lights) chasing each other in he sky with crazy speed and control as if they were playing. Sometimes when you're away from the main cities, the sky is so clear it's amazing the stuff you see there.

Majority of Persians believe in UFO, since we see so much of them, I bet they shot one of the spheres down and about to disclose it, which is why it's starting to spread to the west.

reply to post by silo13


I hadn't even though of the chaos that would bring. the anger, hate, and guilt. lets hope it wasen't some cocky american airforce project and just some E.T life lol. no matter what way you put it, its amazing.

reply to post by Keyhole


Interesting...I hadn't thought about an unannounced military drill..

Beyond A military drill ..

(1) US Drones...of course given the current tensions with Iran...of course we have drones doing recon. Maybe they tagged one...

(2) Propaganda....Iran letting us know that they can shoot down drones and/or missles and that they have the capability to intercept fast moving objects?

*If this was the case I would think they would have claimed a 1 for 1 or 3 for 3 target success. Claiming that they only tagged one of three objects doesn't do much to dampen foriegn powers expectations of a successful strike.

(3) They actually had a lucky shot and downed an alien craft?
The only thing that keeps this in the realm of possibility is that there is a long history of UFO sightings and encounters at Nuclear facilities, particularly at times of first development/deployment. If you buy into the theorey that aliens keep tabs on nuclear proliferation..then maybe..

Any of the above possibilities still leads to this dissapointing conclusion that we are unlikely to get answers on this...but holding out hope.

Then again it could have been something silly like one of their own aircraft or balloons

Interesting all the same.

[edit on 22-9-2009 by maybereal11]

So that's what happened to the mylar balloons that I lost last week.

In WWII it was discovered that bathing an aircraft in extremely bright light was an effective camoflauge to a ground observer in daylight. A British magician named Jasper Maskalyne was one of the developers of this tactic.
This could be the cause of the "shiny object" or they might have tried to shood down Venus.

As for Iran's anti-aircraft capability. Think about this. The US can task a spy satellite to photograph all of Iran. This will reveal the locations of all fixed anti-aircraft sites. Then a swarm of Predator drones can come in low-level and pretty much wipe out the fixed sites. Then you launch an alpha-strike from a carrier in the gulf. Iraq has to honor the threat and lights off the radars on it's mobile SAMs. Between the HARM missiles and another wave of Predators there goes Iran's anti-air capability. Add a few fighter sweeps, crater a few runways and air superiority is achieved.

reply to post by freighttrain


Excellent - thanks for sharing.

It's likely already been posted or referred to, but it was in Iran that one of the most famous, intriguing, and extraordinary UFO incidents of all time took place.

Originally posted by likeabull
I saw a reply on the article link. Someone said the US did the same thing in 1991. It was to determine where the defense systems are located in Iran. Think about it. If it was a UFO wouldn't US & Russia send there ships to intercept recovery?

Exactly.

Be it Earthly or not the powers in the area would be scrambling to recover the prize-if it was of value-. Only if the object was of no value would there be no energy put into the recovery.

I wonder what USN assets are in the area?

My thoughts now are here.

-If the objects were shiny visually that doesn't fit into a drone scenario.

-If the objects were shiny from a radar standpoint that doesn't support a drone either.

However there are kites and balloons used by the military that are reflective to both light and radar.

What may of happened was an electronic intel mission designed to gather info on the air defences of the region and or distract Iran into look in the wrong place when an attack comes.

Or some Saudi Prince was having a party and his helium filled bouncy houses floated away...

It most likely is from this World. To only get one out of three says they were spoted by accident.

Any ET around Earth are well aware of our mandate for hostility and act accordingly. They know what makes us tick.

More along the lines of a perceived threat from western, oil hungry industry driven seekers of wealth, is the problem here. This may be the spark needed to set things in motion.

We still have 10 briefcase nuclear bombs built by the USSR, not accounted for.

reply to post by Jechu

It may be US drones, they send them on purpose so they are attacked by radar missiles. Once they are attacked, the joos ans US can get the missile bateries locations so they can attack later. I think this will happen again in the next days, as they prepare to attack Iran.

BINGO! I've been following this thread right from the beginning
and this is what makes more sense to me.


Wether it was Israel or the US who sent the drones, they win
either way. It was a well planned and executed win/win operation.

You see, this move with the drones, could have been used not only to
pinpoint the missile batteries locations, but, also and most important: provocation. This could have been used as the bait to push Iran to kick-off the war.

You see,here is the win/win scenario:

US and Israel know that Iran is never going to accused them directly of
this intrusion. The minute Ahmadinejad open his mouth to denounce
them, he and the Republic of Iran must treat this situation as a
declaration of war. Otherwise all the rhetoric coming from Iranian
officials about US and Israel regretting any type of aggression
against Iran will be exposed as pure BS. It'll be tossed to the trash bin.

It doesn't look too good when your enemies are freely roaming your airspace and you
are just sitting there drinking tea shouting to the whole world how you
would retaliate against any type of aggression.

Hmmm ... Wouldn't this qualify as an aggression?


The Iranians are going to keep their mouth shut on this one. Guaranteed.

The drones were sent on purpose and they were sent because they know that
the Iranian officials are going keep this one under the wraps.

US and Israel probably will not get the kick-off they were looking for,
but, at least they gather a fair amount of intelligence from this one.

Like Jechu said: By now probably they have some missile batteries locations and a bit more.


IMO: All sides of this soap opera, from US to Israel, to China, to Russia,
to Iran and everyone else involved know that attacking Iran will be a
catastrophic move not only for the region but for the whole world.

They are afraid to make the first move because I don't' really
think they're 100% sure what this will unleash or how far this could escalate.

I see people divided behind the curtain.

That's my opinion. You're more than welcome to contribute to my idea
or just sweep it under the rug.

[EDIT] To quote

[edit on 22-9-2009 by joscarfas]

Originally posted by VintageEnvy

Originally posted by Mr. rock
Iran will be mad no matter who it was and could start a war, i wonder if it was alien would they retailate

I hope not, if they were to retaliate everybody would freak. It would unite the whole world which is beautiful but I wouldn't want it to happen because of that, very scary. Watch it be a bird who just flapped out of a gold paint spill. poor bird

The thought of a gold-painted seagull being blasted out of the air by a bank of SA-7s just brought a huge smile to my face.

Originally posted by DjSharperimage
thats really messed up;
what the hell is wrong with these people?
shooting and killing innocent beings.....
that is just wrong......

Dude, no one knows what they are yet... so quick to assume Iran shot and killed ET ... Iran has been under pressure by the West and Israel so they're just on alert, unknown object crosses over the border, they will shoot it down. Defending themselves... anyhow too early to judge!

Yeah, I have been thinking about the USN as some have brought up. If it was a valuable find, you can bet a naval contingent would be there in haste to begin a salvage operation to recover the debris. There is always a significant US naval presence in that part of world to ensure shipping lanes remain open and the oil keeps flowing, since it is such a hot spot.

However, say it was of ET origin, do you honestly think the Pentagon would have a press conference to tell the world that they are in hot pursuit for the find of the century, highly unlikely. They would keep things under wraps as long as possible or indefinitely. Or tell some bull story about what they recovered, because it didn't stop them with the Roswell incident. Non-the-less, the story is getting very interesting.

[edit on 22-9-2009 by Jakes51]

I dont believe the three objects were drones. Why would the US/Israel have 3 drones in basically the same area? That would be very stupid unless they wanted to be seen so Iran would start the war. Just a waste of money if thats the case.

I would probably guess weather balloon, because I dont see any modern aircarfts being that close in foriegn territory.

On the subject of UFO it ground breaking!!!! Its wierd how they still havent found any trace on any of the three.. Maybe they dropped in the water but were ok and became USO(Unidentified Submerged Objects)..

Originally posted by silo13
We best be in hopes now more than ever it IS a UFO.

Cause if it's stamped 'made in the USA' we're in some big trouble.

Big trouble.

peace

Ha good one

Iran has state of the art missile weaponry. Just an fyi. technologically speaking, they are on par with the rest of the world.

It is not some outback country after all.

having said that, these could have been x45a drones made by boeing. They are jet driven and white and would appear to be quite shiny when reflecting sunlight. the israeli ones posted are for battlefield recon and not for spying for obvious reasons.

If they did shoot one, the rest of it would self destruct as has been stated and they will not get that tech in their hands at least.

Israel and their proxy state the USA has been itching to get into a war with Iran so that they can maintain their military superiority in the region.

this is far more likely to be an act by israel or the us in attempted surveillance.

Originally posted by Silcone Synapse
My bet is that they were some kind of terrestrial surveillance platform,from the US or Israel,"shining"as the sun hit them.

I agree with that or there might not have been anything at all. I think the message from Iran is "Enter our airspace and we will try to shoot you down - no questions asked".

While I agree that it is most likely an Earthly object, I find it strange that Iran would use the word 'unidentified' so quickly.

To me, it means that Iran did not recognize what is it -- or even what it could be. I should think that a suspected drone would be identified as such right away.

Iran practically drools waiting for the US and/or Israel to do SOMETHING, ANYTHING that can be considered provacative (don't get me wrong, it usually is). Especially now since they are seemingly trying to recreate their world image.

My point is, whatever they saw and shot down must have freaked someone out. Iran claims to be as up-to-speed on the latest and greatest military weapons as anyone else (knowing about them, not neccessarily having them).

I can't imagine that they would risk the embarrassment of labeling something as a UFO (complete with typical UFO characteristic description), and missing TWO of them to boot, to only say later on that it was nothing more than a US/Israel drone.

Can you see what that says of their military capabilities to admit they couldn't shoot the other two down? Doesn't this paint an obvious weakness that Israel could then capitalize on?

More likely the craft went into the water to leave the "theater" and the weapons people decided they had shot it down.

If I had a craft that could go into space and water and was being shot at, I would find the water a convenient cover from stupid human crude ballistic projectiles. It uses less energy to go into water than to accelerate from Earths gravity to orbit. Saves energy for the on-board coffee maker that was busy at the time.

Really, the words from such a military culture have no traction for my interests without more empirical evidence.

ZG

Originally posted by Jechu
It may be US drones, they send them on purpose so they are attacked by radar missiles. Once they are attacked, the joos ans US can get the missile bateries locations so they can attack later.
I think this will happen again in the next days, as they prepare to attack Iran.

I concur.
My bet is on October.