Evacuation Warning! - Yellowstone National Park (Non Official)

I've been reading and watching this situation since the "other" thread started.
I'm no "Chicken Little" by any means. However, that being said, I do have a concern over the events taking place at Yellowstone, and I, like several of the other posters, do NOT have the "faith" in our government to warn us until it's at the very last minute.
No need to panic the "herd" into a stampede until absolutely necessary.

No one really "knows" what's going to happen...let alone when. To start a panic scenario based on events that's beyond anyone's comphrehension on what's going to happen would cause widespread chaos. BUT, I still want to hear/read ALL opinions...in order to form MY OWN opinion.
ALL information should be passed on so we can be informed and make our own judgement calls.
It may turn out to be nothing...then again there's this "What IF' factor, and that's the issue.
I'm glad ATS has not closed this thread. I want all opinions...and I'll make My decision on what or what not to believe.

Originally posted by xsamaelx
Doesn't seem like a very credible source.

If you see his youtube video he is way over-acting and it seems extremely sensationalist.

You may be correct! For those of you who are interested, here's the plan by USGS, a 3.7MB pdf file, titled:

Volcano and Earthquake Monitoring Plan for the Yellowstone Volcano Observatory, 2006-2015. U.S.

Cheers!

reply to post by gallifreyan medic


Ok, based on that logic, it could come now or in another 10 or 20 thousand years. Thanks for the info, I'm going to go stock up on 20,000 years worth of rice, beans and canned goods now, just to be sure, since it could happen "any minute......or within the next 50,000 years since it's already 40,000 years overdue. Now I understand all the panic...Jeeessssshhhhhh.

I've read a lot of Christian writers, conspiracy nuts and otherwise mis/dis-informed writers who like to make outlandish predictions that espouse fear. Stuff like how they would make such predictions as "gas prices will never again go under $5/gallon world-wide" a few months ago (I'm by no means totally confident prices are stable where they live now, yet I digress...) to predictions about the home mortgage industry... it's a time-less act.

However, I would like to make one prediction, or conspiracy theory... If you believe scientists really do know more than we do about probability of something significant occurring in Yellowstone, then the government will somehow set forth a major distraction, such as revealing the hidden truth behind Sarah Palin's weird family, and if they are wrong,it will just be another day at the office for the Republicans.

If this happens, fyi, I will be charging for my prediction services from that point on.






[edit on 3-1-2009 by chetinglendalevillage]

This "geologist" ramble on watch my video please jargon would be more credible if there were actual USGS/Wyoming Geologist Association members who actually work at Yellowstone with him in this video saying the same thing.

But there isnt. Just this one fella out of nowhere taking advantage of a situation for brownie website hit points and youtube popularity.

Thanks but no thanks. I have friends who are actual USGS geologists working in Yellowstone, 3 of them with the Wyoming Geologists Association and I will take their word over anyone elses any day.




Cheers!!!!

reply to post by John Matrix


Yea orbs uuuuhhhh you mean dust and dirt on the lens. After seeing that video with "Chris" walking around in a "Flight Suit" and the "Disassembly Building" (note the bullet holes) all I can say is that this coupled with the NWO stuff on his other sites and we have the makings of a nut case.

Honestly, look at that video and then tell me that that guy even sounds remotely knowledgeable about much of anything. Lou Costello would be more convincing and get a laugh too.

reply to post by deadcatsrule


If you go to Yellowstones website and pull up their 'Old Faithful' web cam, you will see in the address bar what the park code is.....and it is yellow. It has been yellow since right after Christmas. I don't know why usgs doesn't update their site.

Chris Sanders is not making money from his websites. He makes more than enough from his shale oil drilling, wind farms and other energy-related projects. He has no need for fame and public attention as he is a down-to-earth guy who frequently gets his hands dirty actually working at his projects.

So why has he issued this warning? Perhaps because he also has compassion for life and does not trust the government to be as concerned about protecting the public as they are about preserving their power and not doing anything that would jeopardize their positions.

In reality; however, a mass evacuation would create more problems than solutions as the highway system would quickly become grid-locked and people would be more exposed to dangers than if they stayed at home. If the population within a 200 mile radius of Yellowstone were evacuated, where would they go? The Katrina experience has revealed that FEMA really does not have a practical plan to relocate thousands (certainly not millions) of displaced people.

Designating a safe destination and actually getting the people there is beyond FEMA's ability. All they can do is get supplies and personnel to a site AFTER the destruction has occurred. They can also override local & state governments, suspend the Federal Constitution and declare Martial Law - But that is a topic for another thread.

Seems this has turned into quite a debate thread more than anything. Interesting.

reply to post by DraconianKing


Actually, if you read up on volcanic seismic activity, the earth quakes are rather small in nature ranging from 2-3 not 4-5. The frequency of quakes and the depth is what the concern is about. Mt. St.Helens experienced small tremors in the range of 2-3 in power near the surface or at about 1km down.

Hello everyone,

Last night I was doing a lot of reading probably just like the rest of you on what is happening at Yellowstone.

I think we all know they aren't going to write anything to cause panic this is logical. It seems that there have been over 500 quakes recently and they have only checked out about three hundred of them so far.

I was reading a page titled: Yellowstone Recent Status Report, Updates and Information Releases.... what caught my attention and what I thought interesting is under Earthquake Summery, paragraph 5, last sentence.

The Wyoming Office of Homeland Security is reviewing Earthquake Response Plans and monitoring seismic activity.

I think those word are very interesting and telltale myself.

volcanoes.usgs.gov...

I myself am looking on the Central Mid Atlantic Ridge toward Brazil.

FYI - He is government . . . I tend not to believe a government bureaucrat and listen to someone in Academia . . . IMHO

I don't know why people have such a deep mistrust for the government on absolutely every level. You actually believe they'd rather see people die, than warn them?

Mt. Saint Helens: They knew in advance, once the signs were apparently it was going to erupt, they evacuated everyone in plenty of time. They forced evacuations. The only numskulls that died were those who didn't trust the government and warnings, and stayed.

What would they have to gain by NOT warning people if they felt there was a real threat? Oh yea.. the clever agenda to reduce our population by any means necessary, I forgot.

Again, I'd trust someone who has been on site for a long time, and knows exactly what he is looking at, versus a random geologist we've never heard of. Just because he works for the government doesn't mean he is a liar, an evil NWO agenda agent, or a dummy.

Ok so what some are saying is that I should rely on just 1 person, in 1 video not officially from any USGS or Yellowstone official and believe in what he is saying just because this 1 person says so?

Thats like saying to trust a UFO believer's word just because they say they saw a UFO and recommends everyone to believe in UFO's.

Again, if this guy was serious, and concerned about people's lives, he would have included other geologists, particularly ones from Yellowstone and the USGS who are actually there 24/7/365 that would know a heck of alot more about Yellowstone than this guy alone.

So why didnt this fella get more gologists from Yellowstone and USGS to back up what he believes?? That alone right there tells me the video and this guy is just a "look at me I'm a geologist and I say unofficially that what I say is cannon and take me seriously without any other official opinion" show and tell youtube glitter glamour.

Id rather hear about Yellowstone from a hobo living on the site than this guy.




Cheers!!!!

I think he would have appeared more credible just going along the lines of:

"this is what's happening"
"this is why it could be concerning"
"If you want to chance it and stay go right ahead heck you might add to the dozens who have been scorched to death out here as for me heh I'm out ah here"

I have to agree with some of the other posters as to the way he presented it made it feel like it was overly dramatic considering earthquakes are the only thing happening and for the most part not that large either. But it's still pretty fun to check the graph and go, "Oh man that was a lot of em"

reply to post by fleabit


Interesting how people haven't learned from the recent economic problems in the world. All the "official" experts in economics said there was nothing to worry about until it was too late with the exception of a very few (Ron Paul, Peter Schiff).

When will people learn that just because you have some letters after your name or some fancy title, that does not translate into that person knowing what they are doing or make that person an expert. People need to get their heads out of their butts and start doing their own research and investigate the world around them instead of just waiting around expecting some "expert" to pop up and tell them what is happening and what to do. To just sit there and rely on these so called experts is living in the reality they create for you. Think for a minute about all the people who have gone against what the MAJORITY was saying and turned out to be correct.

How many innocent people do we have in prisons? How many doctors have misdiagnosed someone? How many people told Columbus that the world was flat? How many financial experts said that there was not a world wide economic collapse coming? How many people in the current administration said that Iraq had WMD?

Nothing personal, just want people to start using their own brains instead of relying on others to do the thinking for them then just accept what they say for no other reason but that they are too lazy to do their own research and have an open mind.

I don't think that anyone should blindly follow anyone. Everyone should do their own research and draw their own conclusions from the research THEY compiled and use other people's research to either back up their own research or to show their research wrong. Also the information should make sense to you, don't just accept something because you think the person who said it is more intelligent than you. They may not be.

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reply to post by jhill76


It took about 3 hours...I don't think it was an "Out of the Office" type response.

delius

whattya gonna wait for the government to warn you!!!

certainly there must be a bunch (like bananas) of independent scientists who monitor Yellowstone for geological activity on a routine basis. The best way to find an answer is to see how the rich and elitist are dealing with this news. God knows we will be told nothing until it happens or the last minute. If the response to katrina isn't enough to sell you on our despicable government and their inaction, then just wait until 2009 is over. You'll be sold by then, and will probably be in the streets protesting....just like tens of thousands of other people in other parts of the world THAT ARE IN THE STREETS NOW.

Face it, most americans cannot be disturbed for whatever reason. There so complacent...it must be the flouride.

Originally posted by fleabit

FYI - He is government . . . I tend not to believe a government bureaucrat and listen to someone in Academia . . . IMHO

I don't know why people have such a deep mistrust for the government on absolutely every level. You actually believe they'd rather see people die, than warn them?

Mt. Saint Helens: They knew in advance, once the signs were apparently it was going to erupt, they evacuated everyone in plenty of time. They forced evacuations. The only numskulls that died were those who didn't trust the government and warnings, and stayed.

What would they have to gain by NOT warning people if they felt there was a real threat? Oh yea.. the clever agenda to reduce our population by any means necessary, I forgot.

Again, I'd trust someone who has been on site for a long time, and knows exactly what he is looking at, versus a random geologist we've never heard of. Just because he works for the government doesn't mean he is a liar, an evil NWO agenda agent, or a dummy.

Your right Mt. St. Helen's was an A-1 job by the Government . . . but, that was in 1980, over 28 years ago . . . a great deal of the trust that certain levels of government had disappeared with things like . . . "read my lips, no new taxes" . . . "I did not have sex with that woman" . . . "there are weapons of mass destruction in Iraq" . . . oh and that's not forget Katrina, Economic Crisis, etc.

Now with that all said, if the the government warned me to get out because of natural or manmade event I would certainly head the advice. But, it never hurts to have idependent eyes looking at this things, sometimes people too close to issues have a prejudice view and reluctant to think things can change or rapidly become abnormal.

Not to mention the censoring of scientist that has gone on for the past eight years, should be of a great concern, do you really think Bush wants another problem!

[edit on 1/3/09 by mel1962]

Originally posted by stinkhorn
reply to post by DraconianKing

 

Actually, if you read up on volcanic seismic activity, the earth quakes are rather small in nature ranging from 2-3 not 4-5. The frequency of quakes and the depth is what the concern is about. Mt. St.Helens experienced small tremors in the range of 2-3 in power near the surface or at about 1km down.

Hey there, i was checking this since lately as you can see we have small but MANY quakes in Greece.. and this think with Yellowstone got my attention...
Since im faaar away, which is ther reaction of the goverment and other official organisations ?

Take a look at the activity around Puerto Rico. PR has lots of quakes much like YS has had over the past week or so. What does this "fellow" think about that? I don't think I would begin a 2 week backcountry trip into Yellowstone IYKWIM.