Whats going on at yellowstone?

Originally posted by Rumbottlerenovator
reply to post by seasonedherb

 

I agree...but 2 months ago what was the weather?
Nevertheless, if you look closely the major spike occured around the same time as the major quake in Indonesia yesterday..
No idea if or how that is relevent but the timing is interesting.
There was an earlier post from someone who shared 6 different locations, all of which showed a similar spike at that same time.
I can'tsay for sure it's related but agauin the timing makes it interesting.

Not sure, it only let's you go back 60 days. I would love to see some sort of data for the swarms back in the 80's.

reply to post by seasonedherb


You can get a little more perspective looking at this chart. mt.water.usgs.gov...

Originally posted by Jay-in-AR
reply to post by seasonedherb

 

You can get a little more perspective looking at this chart. mt.water.usgs.gov...

So it has been much higher, the interesting part is that it always seems to get high right around December - February.

Here's a bit more info (not included with the other report posted) on the study by Bob Smith regarding earthquakes triggering others to occur at great distances.

Yellowstone activity was half an hour after Alaskan quake of 2002:

While the data are preliminary, they suggest that the Yellowstone earthquakes may have been triggered by the passage of large seismic waves generated by the Alaskan earthquake more than 3,200 kilometers (almost 2,000 miles) from the park. The apparent triggering is suggested by the fact the Yellowstone activity began within a half hour of the Alaska earthquake, which hit at 3:12 p.m. MST Nov. 3 (1:12 p.m. local time in Alaska).

The apparent triggering of the Yellowstone tremors by the Alaska quake "confirms what we are beginning to see worldwide - that earthquakes can be triggered by other earthquakes at great distances, more so than we had thought before

The small Yellowstone quakes are not considered to pose a threat to the public, but are of great interest to scientists who want to confirm if they were triggered and understand how.

There has been some suggestion that seismic waves from a large, distant quake may jostle the ground at Yellowstone, triggering small quakes by moving the hydrothermal fluids responsible for Yellowstone geysers and hot springs

University Of Utah

other link

reply to post by seasonedherb


Surely that is due to more precipitation. I'm not sure the seasonal rainfall totals in the area, but you would think that it would slow down in those latitudes unless they were getting more rainfall.

Originally posted by SpadeofAces
These are the current rivers and streams currently experiencing an increased flow based on historical data in the general area. These spikes look extremely abnormal to me. Something to watch in the next day or so....But the data could be corrupted, or it is icing over. Very interesting.


Madison River near West Yellowstone MT

Yellowstone River at Yellowstone Lk Outlet YNP

NORTH FORK SHOSHONE RIVER AT WAPITI, WY

CHEYENNE RIVER NR DULL CENTER, WY

CROW CREEK AT 19TH
STREET, AT CHEYENNE, WY

PINE CREEK ABOVE FREMONT LAKE, WY

BEAR RIVER BLW SMITHS FORK, NR COKEVILLE, WY

SNAKE RIVER AT MOOSE, WY

Keep in mind these are all near the Tetons, Yellowstone, and mostly near the caldera.

Here is that post (pg 180)
Interesting to look at each one seems to spike at the same time.

And here is another one. This one is a text file though, and as such, I haven't got the skinny on it just yet, but it gives a bunch of stages and dates. nwis.waterdata.usgs.gov...

reply to post by violet


That was one of my suspicions also. Being that the quake activity is releasing subterranean water. This also somewhat leads me to believe that any eruptions we could possibly see coming out of Yellowstone will be HydroThermal at best.

Lots of links and volcanic info

www.lampholderpub.com...

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That is an interesting website. This quote is pretty weird, though:

"...the fracture will occur before the melting, a line in length

from the Ancient; the Western ocean to the Long Valley near the

Western Lake, the two will merge." (Lampholder Prophecy 1999)"

Sounds to me like they are trying to say that they predict that, before the melting (before any eruption?) that Yellowstone lake is going to somehow merge with the Pacific Ocean?

Very odd. But good site nonetheless.




[edit on 4-1-2009 by Jay-in-AR]

Some great examples of wind - different graph readings - etc

quake.usgs.gov...

Originally posted by Jay-in-AR
reply to post by violet

 

That was one of my suspicions also. Being that the quake activity is releasing subterranean water. This also somewhat leads me to believe that any eruptions we could possibly see coming out of Yellowstone will be HydroThermal at best.

Here's a start of some great discussion on water levels and there's even more before that. Might save you some research. Just open it up on a new tab and you can keep this one open too.
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Originally posted by Jay-in-AR
reply to post by spinkyboo

 

That is an interesting website. This quote is pretty weird, though:

"...the fracture will occur before the melting, a line in length

from the Ancient; the Western ocean to the Long Valley near the

Western Lake, the two will merge." (Lampholder Prophecy 1999)"

Sounds to me like they are trying to say that they predict that, before the melting (before any eruption?) that Yellowstone lake is going to somehow merge with the Pacific Ocean?

Very odd. But good site nonetheless.

[edit on 4-1-2009 by Jay-in-AR]

Hmmm... I didn't see that - and yes that is weird -

I'm here on the West Coast -
I guess I will be the one who will have to let everyone know when Yellowstone lake has arrived.

reply to post by sad_eyed_lady
they have stopped updating and removed info....early morning on the 3rd on usgs I counted a series of 3 or greater events went to sleep woke up and the were not there...

Originally posted by Jay-in-AR
reply to post by spinkyboo

 

That is an interesting website. This quote is pretty weird, though:

"...the fracture will occur before the melting, a line in length

from the Ancient; the Western ocean to the Long Valley near the

Western Lake, the two will merge." (Lampholder Prophecy 1999)"

Sounds to me like they are trying to say that they predict that, before the melting (before any eruption?) that Yellowstone lake is going to somehow merge with the Pacific Ocean?

Very odd. But good site nonetheless.

Could the Long Valley reference be the Long Valley caldera?




[edit on 4-1-2009 by Jay-in-AR]

Only three things can generate increased water flow in the park this time of year:

1: Under Ground Water pushed to surface
2: Inceased melt of overlaying snow pack fro geo thermal warming
3: Ground Deformation

It is below zero, current precipitation has no impact on run off since it is in the form of frozen water.

If a warm front moves through and gets the temps above freezing then we should see a spike. It happens almost every year in the mountains that you will get a storm that comes in and brings warm air and rain. The combination of warm air and rain accelerates snow melt which leads to run-off spikes.

These conditions do no not and have not exsisted in Yellowstone since earlier in December.

[edit on 4-1-2009 by meagerhair]

reply to post by TXTriker


I guess that very well could be what they meant by that. I didn't think about though because it was on their Yellowstone Page.

reply to post by Jay-in-AR


I thought I remembered seeing something in the thread about Long Valley also having a caldera.

Here is a link with info on Long Valley

[edit on 1/4/2009 by TXTriker]

forgot to put the link in

lvo.wr.usgs.gov...


[edit on 1/4/2009 by TXTriker]

Yeah, there is a Long Valley Caldera also.

Thanks to the above poster (sageturkey) for the link to the water increase discussion earlier in this thread. I got here very late and the topic was much too large to read all the way through...
Anyhow, considering what is known about water level increases, why would they be increasing while the Quakes are slowing down? That seems odd and I don't think that could be due to displacement. And yeah, I overlooked the temperature. Much too cold to be precipitation. It must be subterranean water being pushed, or rattled, to the surface because of other quake activity. Something to keep an eye on.

By the way, Sageturkey has been kicking butt in this thread. If I were a mod I would be giving some love by way of applause. Others deserve it too, but his contribution has stuck out to me.

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Originally posted by Rumbottlerenovator
Madison River near West Yellowstone MT

Interesting things happening at Madison River.

By default, the page is set to look at 4 or 7 days of data, try it with 60 days and it looks much closer to the norm.
waterdata.usgs.gov...

Peace